HD Locals - City By City What's Available

[Earl Bonovich]

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We will use this thread to discuss it, and provide corrections/updates for it.

[PoitNarf]

Thanks to one of our users: Newshawk for creating the initial HD Locals - City By City What's Available map.

http://www.dbstalk.com/DIRECTV_lil_list.html

We will use this thread to discuss it, and provide corrections/updates for it.

Nice find. NY locals look correct. Why doesn't NY have CW in HD but Atlanta and Philly do? Bah says I!

[Earl Bonovich]

Nice find. NY locals look correct. Why doesn't NY have CW in HD but Atlanta and Philly do? Bah says I!

I don't think it was a "find"... He researched it, and built it... and asked if we could host it here...

[Newshawk]

First correction-Dallas NBC station KXAS should be channel 5, not 4.

As to why I've done this-I've seen some people asking what channels were available in certain cities. I have been tracking the growth of D*'s HD locals, so I pulled all my info together and made a list similar to the EKB HD locals list.

[DCSholtis]

STO is showing on that map as being on Channels 96 AND 97 but its only on Channel 96. Is it possible that Channel 97 might be Fox Sports Ohio??!!

[Newshawk]

STO is showing on that map as being on Channels 96 AND 97 but its only on Channel 96. Is it possible that Channel 97 might be Fox Sports Ohio??!!
Hmmm... more fione tuning here. I don't have as much access to the channel placement of RSNs as I do to the local channels. Knowing that D* uses 96 and 97 for their HD RSNs, I just repeated that on all the game-only RSN listings. If you know for sure that a certain RSN is only on 96 or 97, please let Earl or me know so we can update the list.

[litzdog911]

Very nice!!!

A potential future enhancement might be to add which satellites and transponders beam each city's HD Local Channels. It's a question often asked here as folks install new dishes and wonder which satellite/transponder provides their locals. Lyngsat provides the satellite info, but not the transponder info.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/america.html

[DCSholtis]

Hmmm... more fione tuning here. I don't have as much access to the channel placement of RSNs as I do to the local channels. Knowing that D* uses 96 and 97 for their HD RSNs, I just repeated that on all the game-only RSN listings. If you know for sure that a certain RSN is only on 96 or 97, please let Earl or me know so we can update the list.

STO is on Channel 96 only here in the Cleveland DMA. I have heard that FSN Ohio is coming soon so MAYBE that would be on Channel 97 but Im not sure.

[bjflynn04]

Correction WLFL 22 in Raleigh, NC is a CW station not an MNT station.

[TheRatPatrol]

Correction for Phoenix, NBC and CBS needs to be switched with each other. CBS is channel 5 KPHO and NBC is channel 12 KPNX.

Nice job on the chart, looks good.

Thanks.

[fdeitz]

For Washington, DC - channel 5 is FOX - there is no channel 13. Also, at least for me, channel 20 is not available as a High Def channel - there are only 4 local High Def channels available right now where I live in the Washington, DC area (and I assume it would be the same for the entire area).

[brianr4666]

First correction-Dallas NBC station KXAS should be channel 5, not 4.

As to why I've done this-I've seen some people asking what channels were available in certain cities. I have been tracking the growth of D*'s HD locals, so I pulled all my info together and made a list similar to the EKB HD locals list.

We also receive KDAF Channel 33 in Dallas. It is the CW affiliate.

[NCEarlb]

I was wondering if FSN South was my regional network, would I get that in HD??
I am located near Raleigh, NC.

Thanks,
Earl

[Scott R. Scherr]

I think Comcast Sportsnet (629) is available in HD in the Baltimore market too. I can't verify because I do not have compatible equipment yet (will on Friday) but the SD channel 629 is available in Baltimore.

Scott

[bonscott87]

Very nice!!!

A potential future enhancement might be to add which satellites and transponders beam each city's HD Local Channels. It's a question often asked here as folks install new dishes and wonder which satellite/transponder provides their locals. Lyngsat provides the satellite info, but not the transponder info.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/america.html

Yes, I would love to see the Sat and transponder info. It will help with any "moving" decisions. ;)

[Capmeister]

Is there a list somewhere of the DMAs that D* is working on--a timeline of when they might have their HD Locals uplinked?

[Newshawk]

All revisions noted and made. I was not aware of Dallas having CW33 in HD-if they do, then Dallas will be the first city with all the major commercial stations in HD!

BTW, Baltimore does not get Comcra... er, Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic in hD AFAIK.

[pecocus]

Seattle looks mostly right... SOMEDAY we'll get Fox and ABC.

One small correction... I've seen Fox Sports Northwest on 95 as well.

Paul

[Newshawk]

Seattle looks mostly right... SOMEDAY we'll get Fox and ABC.

One small correction... I've seen Fox Sports Northwest on 95 as well.

Paul

You may have, but 95 is the MPEG 2 HD channel and 96 is the MPEG 4 channel.

[skierbri10]

Honolulu is missing.

[pecocus]

You may have, but 95 is the MPEG 2 HD channel and 96 is the MPEG 4 channel.

Ahhh... got ya. Didn't realize that.

[Earl Bonovich]

Honolulu is missing.

Is Honolulu available with HD Locals (via Sat) Yet?

[Earl Bonovich]

All revisions noted and made. I was not aware of Dallas having CW33 in HD-if they do, then Dallas will be the first city with all the major commercial stations in HD!

BTW, Baltimore does not get Comcra... er, Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic in hD AFAIK.

I have sent the update to Chris (the admin of the board), and he will repalce the html with th new file....

Then we will cleanup the posts accordingly.

[David Ortiz]

An update for Fresno, CA:

KMPH 26 (FOX) is now online in HD on DirecTV.

[Scott R. Scherr]

BTW, Baltimore does not get Comcra... er, Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic in hD AFAIK.

Wow! How can a channel that carries the Baltimore Orioles, the Maryland Terrapins, etc. fail to be carried in Baltimore when the SD channel is? What kind of logic is that?

Scott

[Herdfan]

Very very nice!

Can I make a suggestion? Perhaps make a second list below the first list using the same data but in DMA order. Include all DMA's and not just htose broadcasting. Perhaps also an asterisk for those that are announced, but not up.

Still, very nice and informative.

[litzdog911]

Should Honolulu be added? I see their MPEG4 locals are beamed from the 103-deg satellite according to Lyngsat, but the DirecTV web site says they're not yet available.

[skierbri10]

Should Honolulu be added? I see their MPEG4 locals are beamed from the 103-deg satellite according to Lyngsat, but the DirecTV web site says they're not yet available.

It looks like they are beamed as MPEG4 but not HD. :rolleyes:

[Greg Bimson]

DirecTV is using the Spaceway birds to transmit the local channels of Honolulu, Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau, in standard definition. DirecTV was required by law to provide local channels to these areas in December, 2005.

I think there is a requirement to have the digital versions of those markets available sometime within the next 12 months.

[Newshawk]

Very very nice!

Can I make a suggestion? Perhaps make a second list below the first list using the same data but in DMA order. Include all DMA's and not just htose broadcasting. Perhaps also an asterisk for those that are announced, but not up.

Still, very nice and informative.

I'll have to work on that... There are a few more that come to mind.

Oh, and thank you for the kind words.

[Gmaxx]

I noticed that Boston says 12/8/2006 as the start date. Is this correct? I thought I read on the website that they are already on? :confused: I know for a fact that NESN is active already because I was watching a Red Sox game during the summer and they announced that you can now watch the games in HD on D*. Maybe you meant to put 8/12/2006? I am scheduled to have my hr-20 installed on the 9th of Oct. so if noone knows I will update it then. thx

[Newshawk]

I noticed that Boston says 12/8/2006 as the start date. Is this correct? I thought I read on the website that they are already on? :confused: I know for a fact that NESN is active already because I was watching a Red Sox game during the summer and they announced that you can now watch the games in HD on D*. Maybe you meant to put 8/12/2006? I am scheduled to have my hr-20 installed on the 9th of Oct. so if noone knows I will update it then. thx

Oops! That comes from editing the list at 2 AM! No, it's 12/6/2005for Boston, one of the first 12 markets D* turned on last year.

Making the correction now-you'll see it by tomorrow (along with the rest of the day's updates.)

[gb33]

This is a great list thanks. Now if only Indianapolis and it's tv stations could quit sucking so much and give me CBS and FOX. Man I miss Milwaukee!
But thanks again for the list, cool stuff.

[axiom]

I just started receiving HD locals for Austin, Texas on my HR20 this evening. Hope they stay on. :)

[Earl Bonovich]

Page was updated, notice the new link...
This is an area that I can get to so I can update it faster in the future.

Thanks Newshawk for the updates.... and to you all that have provided the updated information

http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DIRECTV_lil_list.html

[litzdog911]

Typo on the Sacramento row ....
KOVR is channel 13, not 12.

[David Ortiz]

Typo on the Sacramento row ....
KOVR is channel 13, not 12.

Not only that, but the update for Fresno (KMPH 26 FOX) was put into the Sacramento row.

David

[Newshawk]

I really have to stop working on the list when I'm sleep deprived!

[MCEAGLE]

Nashville is Correct - Well Done!

[litzdog911]

Typo on the Sacramento row ....
KOVR is channel 13, not 12.

Also, Sacramento's Fox station is 40, KTXL, not the Fresno station shown in the table.

[Newshawk]

Nice find. NY locals look correct. Why doesn't NY have CW in HD but Atlanta and Philly do? Bah says I!

Sorry for the late reply to your question, PoitNarf, but I think the reason that Atlanta and Philly have CW is that the stations also carry a significant amount of sports porgramming, which in Philadelphia's case means access to a certain amount of Phillies, 76ers and Flyers games.

[ckyee]

? on RSN. I'm in the SF bay area. Do only high def broadcasts get put on 96 and 97 for the RSN's? In the guide, all I see is "upcoming broadcast....." - do I need the sports package for my local rsn's or do I just need the high def package?

[litzdog911]

Only HiDef broadcasts for your RSN will show up those channels. There are not too many of those yet.

[bobnielsen]

And you don't need either the HD or sports packages to receive the HD RSN.

[luvdtv04]

I've never seen an HD broadcast on Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic (629). Is it because the 5LNB dish is required? If I live in the Richmond DMA and don't have the 5LNB dish, would I qualify for an upgrade since it is my regional RSN and I have the HD package?

[Earl Bonovich]

I've never seen an HD broadcast on Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic (629). Is it because the 5LNB dish is required? If I live in the Richmond DMA and don't have the 5LNB dish, would I qualify for an upgrade since it is my regional RSN and I have the HD package?

yes you would need the 5LNB dish and an H20 or HR20 dish. As the HD-RSNs are in MPEG4

[Newshawk]

I've never seen an HD broadcast on Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic (629). Is it because the 5LNB dish is required? If I live in the Richmond DMA and don't have the 5LNB dish, would I qualify for an upgrade since it is my regional RSN and I have the HD package?

Also, as you live in Richmond, HD locals are not available there as of now.

[luvdtv04]

True, but CSN is my regional sports net. Or would I have to wait?

[matchstick]

KDAF 33 in Dallas is NOT available in HD via satellite. Currently it is only available OTA.

[Scott R. Scherr]

True, but CSN is my regional sports net. Or would I have to wait?

I called Directv today about this issue. I am in Baltimore and they confirmed that if I received SD Comcast Sportsnet, I should be able to get it in HD. They have "escalated" the problem and are going to have their supervisor call me back. They expect a resolution that the channel will be made available to areas outside of DC, but who knows what will happen.

Scott

[luvdtv04]

Thanks, Scott. I've been lazy and haven't followed up on this issue. Please let us know what you find out.

[dtv757]

does any one know when D* will have HD locals in the NORFOLK, VA (DMA # 42 (http://www.nielsenmedia.com/DMAs.html)) market? the HD off the antenna breaks up a lot and looks bad.

[Knepster]

Addition to Denver RSN

Altitude is now being carried in HD.
Part time, all home games for Avalanche and Nuggets.
Listed in ch guide under 96, Altitude website says 97, so we'll see.

[Newshawk]

I've heard about Altitude... also somehting about Sun Sports in Orlando and Tampa. Anyone have any reception reports?

[Knepster]

OK cool......great chart by the way, thanks for putting it togther

[TheRatPatrol]

Sorry if this was asked already, but when the new MPEG4 satellites go up next year, is D* going to offer the HD sports feeds to the entire country on conus so everyone can watch these games in HD? I would hope so.

Thanks.

[bobnielsen]

Sorry if this was asked already, but when the new MPEG4 satellites go up next year, is D* going to offer the HD sports feeds to the entire country on conus so everyone can watch these games in HD? I would hope so.

Thanks.

They haven't announced any details yet, but there should be enough bandwidth to do so. Hopefully FSN will be able to provide more HD programming then they now do.

[Cap'n Preshoot]

Not intending to rain on anyone's parade here. I know some of y'all who can't pull in OTA HD are really chomping at the bit to get this, but if what I've seen of the MPEG-4 locals in Houston is at all indicative, the PQ on any action sports or widescreen shots of large expanses of grass are just deplorable in MPEG-4.

The PQ on all 4 Houston MPEG-4 locals is rife with compression artifacts. Most notable on wide shots of the crowd and on any camera angle showing a lof of the grass or playing field. Even closeups of the players lack some sharpness of detail that uncompressed OTA offers.

Fortunately I am able to get all my HD locals from OTA and those are all quite magnificent. However, if this MPEG-4 craze indeed is the new standard, I'll probably be going back to cable, which is something I once swore I'd never do.

I recently bought a new Mits 65" DLP TV then last Friday paid to have it professionally ISF calibrated. A crap signal from my satellite service provider is not acceptable.

[Donnie Byrd]

does any one know when D* will have HD locals in the NORFOLK, VA (DMA # 42 (http://www.nielsenmedia.com/DMAs.html)) market? the HD off the antenna breaks up a lot and looks bad.

dtv757, since i am in the same DMA as you, i would be interested in this as well. A recent conversation with an installer and a very helpful CSR, they shared the same info................some time in the first quarter of 2007. While this is nothing concrete and most likely just speculation, i would be surprised if it were that soon.

[Kapeman]

Does anyone know anything about PBS locals?

Is that going to happen?

[Earl Bonovich]

PBS Locals most likely will not be comming until the new sats are launched.

[luvdtv04]

I'm very jealous of people below Richmond on the Nielsen DMA list who get HD locals through D* before Richmond does. Thankfully I'm not bitter. ;)

[moonman]

I'm very jealous of people below Richmond on the Nielsen DMA list who get HD locals through D* before Richmond does. Thankfully I'm not bitter. ;)
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Do not feel badly///mine were not added till June 28-2006, and I'm in the 17th DMA
(Miami-Ft. Laud)

[jdspencer]

Nice chart. Only about 115 DMAs before I get them. :(

[Gmaxx]

Does anyone know anything about PBS locals?

Is that going to happen?

How about a PBS national feed in HD? Is this available? What channel number. (I don't have my hr20 yet, install was pushed back due to hr20 being out of stock.) :mad:

[Earl Bonovich]

How about a PBS national feed in HD? Is this available? What channel number. (I don't have my hr20 yet, install was pushed back due to hr20 being out of stock.) :mad:

No, there are no PBS national feeds

[rjdude]

Also, Sacramento's Fox station is 40, KTXL, not the Fresno station shown in the table.

I'm in the Sacramento DMA and I get FSN Bay Area HD on 95 when games are available in HD (this may be due to my specific zip code as I live closer to SF/Oakland DMA); when basketball comes along, we'll know then if they'll show Comcast SN-Sacramento games in HD.

[Bofurley]

Does any one know when the Tulsa, Oklahoma stations will turned on?

[bonscott87]

Nobody knows any dates. If nothing falls through the new list of 25 will be up by year's end. After that it will probably be middle of next year for the next batch when the new sats go up.

[Thinker3932]

So the HD versions of the RSNs will be spot beamed unlike the SD RSNs? Does that make sense?

[premio]

I'm in the Sacramento DMA and I get FSN Bay Area HD on 95 when games are available in HD (this may be due to my specific zip code as I live closer to SF/Oakland DMA); when basketball comes along, we'll know then if they'll show Comcast SN-Sacramento games in HD.

Their first preseason game is on CSNW tonight @ 5:30.. Hmmmm

[JLucPicard]

So the HD versions of the RSNs will be spot beamed unlike the SD RSNs? Does that make sense?

It makes sense when you consider that D* doesn't currently have the capacity for NATIONAL HD channels. For RSNs to not be spot beamed would mean they must be CONUS (as the SD RSNs are now) and there just isn't capacity for that at all right now.

[HockeyKat]

I called Directv today about this issue. I am in Baltimore and they confirmed that if I received SD Comcast Sportsnet, I should be able to get it in HD. They have "escalated" the problem and are going to have their supervisor call me back. They expect a resolution that the channel will be made available to areas outside of DC, but who knows what will happen.

Scott

Have you heard anything back from them on this? I live in the Baltimore area and get Baltimore HD locals. It's been annoying the hell out of us that DC gets CSN in HD and we don't. The only explaination I can think of is that they don't include it in the Baltimore spot beam, but I'd love to know why and just when we're getting it. Especially now that hockey season has started!

[Earl Bonovich]

First post has been updated.

Updated HTML
and two new HTMLs

Sort By DMA, and a Listing of SD DMAs

[benjaminmarle]

does any one know when D* will have HD locals in the NORFOLK, VA (DMA # 42 (http://www.nielsenmedia.com/DMAs.html)) market? the HD off the antenna breaks up a lot and looks bad.


I read on Sky Retailer that the Norfolk, VA HD locals will be up before the end of the year along with several other DMA's. Time for me to start thinking about getting HD receivers.

[Newshawk]

First post has been updated.

Updated HTML
and two new HTMLs

Sort By DMA, and a Listing of SD DMAs

Actuall, Earl, the lists are the HD local cities sorted by DMA ranking and a master DMA list of all 210 markets, theavailability of SD and HD locals to those markets and the satellite that carries each market's locals. I do know I'm missing St. Louis' HD satellite location-I'll try and find it soon.

[moonman]

Those last two charts you added are much welcome...btw, how/where did you find
which H/D local is on which satellite?? Even the list on LyngSat is not up to date..
Thanks!!

[Kapeman]

If you don't get the HD package can you still your locals in HD?


Thanks

[Donnie Byrd]

Yep :)

[litzdog911]

If you don't get the HD package can you still your locals in HD?


Thanks


Yes. You just need to subscribe to a package that includes your SD local channels.

[Kapeman]

Yes. You just need to subscribe to a package that includes your SD local channels.

I thought that was the case, but the retention CSR I was talking with when I ordered my HR20 said the opposite. I wanted to check here to make sure.

[carl6]

There may be a requirement to have the HD package as part of the commitment to get the HR20, not totally sure of that.

Carl

[Scott R. Scherr]

I haven't heard anything!

Scott

Have you heard anything back from them on this? I live in the Baltimore area and get Baltimore HD locals. It's been annoying the hell out of us that DC gets CSN in HD and we don't. The only explaination I can think of is that they don't include it in the Baltimore spot beam, but I'd love to know why and just when we're getting it. Especially now that hockey season has started!

[Chandler Mike]

Has anyone heard anything about when the CW will be on the Phoenix area local HD channels?

I want to switch both of my DVR's to Mpeg4, but then I miss out on 3 shows we watch.

[TheRatPatrol]

Has anyone heard anything about when the CW will be on the Phoenix area local HD channels?

I want to switch both of my DVR's to Mpeg4, but then I miss out on 3 shows we watch.
I know the OTA tuners are not active yet, but when they are, why not just use an antenna and get the channel OTA, or are you not able to get good reception in your area?

[Thinker3932]

It makes sense when you consider that D* doesn't currently have the capacity for NATIONAL HD channels. For RSNs to not be spot beamed would mean they must be CONUS (as the SD RSNs are now) and there just isn't capacity for that at all right now.

But D* (Ruppert) owns most RSNs (Fox Sports) and sells a package where you can buy all RSNs. Unless this is not a popular package, I can't imagine the HD RSNs not being CONUS anymore.

[premio]

Why is Comcast SportsNET West, 656, listed as an HD channel on the HR-20 search for HD only? BUT... it clearly is not as the Kings home game was in SD =(

[bobnielsen]

But D* (Ruppert) owns most RSNs (Fox Sports) and sells a package where you can buy all RSNs. Unless this is not a popular package, I can't imagine the HD RSNs not being CONUS anymore.

There isn't enough capacity to have all the HD RSNs CONUS (or even 24/7 on the spotbeams). Hopefully when Directv 10 and 11 are online this will change.

[Earl Bonovich]

The pages have been updated to reflect all recent changes.

[gusbuf]

This according to Directv website.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=127160&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=914114&highlight=

[gusbuf]

Oops! Just saw a whole thread on my recent post. Sorry for the duplication Earl.

[illini]

Hey Earl, does WGN here in Chicago broadcast in HD???

[tstarn]

Nice find. NY locals look correct. Why doesn't NY have CW in HD but Atlanta and Philly do? Bah says I!

You want my CW? Never watch it. In Philly.

[cybrsurfer]

Right now Springfield-Holyoke get's SD locals only on 119. It's market 109. Hopefully HD will be coming soon.

[bobnielsen]

Hey Earl, does WGN here in Chicago broadcast in HD???

Tribune is apparently playing hardball and none of their stations are carried in HD. They have mostly CW, but also some Fox and MYN affiliates.

[harsh]

Unless this is not a popular package, I can't imagine the HD RSNs not being CONUS anymore.Lacking the CONUS bandwidth to do it and not wanting to chew up spotbeams by simulating CONUS, that's exactly the situation.

[harsh]

This according to Directv website.That was posted as a news item three weeks ago (when it was actually news).

[illini]

Tribune is apparently playing hardball and none of their stations are carried in HD. They have mostly CW, but also some Fox and MYN affiliates.

Cheap *******s...I was just wondering cuz the Cubs season was over when I got my DirecTv. Although some could say their season was over in May.

So the Bulls and Cubbies are not broadcast in HD...only on Comcast Sports Chicago guessing.

[Earl Bonovich]

Hey Earl, does WGN here in Chicago broadcast in HD???

Via OTA yes...
But current the WGN-HD signal is not available via SAT

[GeorgeLV]

KVBC 3 (NBC) was added to Las Vegas HD LiL today.

The Las Vegas HD LiL lineup is now:

KVBC 3 (NBC)
KVVU 5 (Fox)
KTNV 13 (ABC)

[dtv757]

a retention rep told me today that HD locals in NORFOLK (DMA 42) will be available by early DECEMBER.

[Donnie Byrd]

a retention rep told me today that HD locals in NORFOLK (DMA 42) will be available by early DECEMBER.

Although "Retention" seems to be better informed than the frontline CSR's, i believe that to be the normal response, since D* has stated that the latest list of the next 25, should be online by year's end. We can only hope that early December is correct. :rolleyes:

[DCSholtis]

FSN Ohio should be added to the HD RSN list on Channel 96 in the Cleveland DMA.

[Newshawk]

It is. Here is the listing:

SportsTime Ohio, FSN Ohio
96, 97

[DCSholtis]

97??? I was not aware of 97 being used for FSN Ohio in fact I dont even have a Channel 97 in my guide.....Everything so far from FSN Ohio has been on Channel 96.

[Newshawk]

Since I don't know if STO and FSN Ohio may both have HD games on at the same time, I just list the channels they would be found on. I don't think at this point the part time RSNs have a specific channel assignment unless your area only has one.

[DCSholtis]

Ok no problem, thanks Newshawk!!! That maybe the case toward spring training/beginning of next baseball season I wasnt even thinking about that...:D

[MikeR7]

Would anyone have an idea what HD locals are being carried on 99, transponders 24 and 36?

[Bofurley]

Any one know what HD channels D TV will broadcast for the Tulsa, OK market? Will it be just the 4 major networks or what?

[harsh]

Any one know what HD channels D TV will broadcast for the Tulsa, OK market? Will it be just the 4 major networks or what?It may be anywhere from two to four of the bigs. One non-big channel has been done in nine of the larger markets nationwide. Seattle, Portland and Las Vegas are still limping along with two channels.

[Newshawk]

Looking at the Tulsa locals, the only ones I'd even consider worrying about (IMHO) are KOTV-6 (CBS) and KOKI-23 (FOX). KOTV has the CW station and KOKI has the MyNetwork station, but both of them are available in SD from D*, so I don't know if they'd be deal breakers for the stations. As for the 9 CW/MyNetwork affiliates that D* carries now, I think they all share the same trait of carrying lots of pro sports in HD.

[Greg Bimson]

Any one know what HD channels D TV will broadcast for the Tulsa, OK market? Will it be just the 4 major networks or what?As to Tulsa, DirecTV has a lot of retrans agreements in place for the HD networks. However, the status of a contract for the CBS and CW ran Griffin stations is unknown.As for the 9 CW/MyNetwork affiliates that D* carries now, I think they all share the same trait of carrying lots of pro sports in HD.Well, there is also quite a bit of common ownership there. Most of the CW affiliates on DirecTV currently are owned by CBS; most of the MyNetwork affiliates are owned by Fox.

The one station group that hurts most is Tribune. They currently own 14 of the top 30 CW affiliates and 4 of the top 30 Fox affiliates, as well as a couple of MyNetwork affiliates. No carriage contract, and these stations aren't available on DirecTV.

For a more complete listing of what to expect when your market's HD is being served by DirecTV, go here. (http://www.dbsforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69662)

[bobnielsen]

The Seattle CW station is owned by CBS, but apparently they have only recently started talking to Directv.

All of the local indications are that Tribune is very close to being carried (of course it has been that way for a few months). In Seattle, Tribune owns both the Fox and MyNetwork affiliates and this will probably cover both of these.

[pmayo2002]

WPEC (12) is now in HD for the West Palm Beach/Ft. Pierce DMA. It is the CBS affiliate.

[IndianaGary]

I just noticed tonight that WXIN-HD Fox 59 out of Indianapolis is active. I thought this was a Tribune owned station. Hopefully this means there will many more to follow.

[Jon D]

It may be anywhere from two to four of the bigs. One non-big channel has been done in nine of the larger markets nationwide. Seattle, Portland and Las Vegas are still limping along with two channels.

Don't forget about Hartford. We happen to be "blessed" with a LIN and Tribune owned station. ABC and FOX. Not that anyone watches anything on ABC, but not having FOX in HD is kinda rough.

[Gadget27]

Don't forget about Hartford. We happen to be "blessed" with a LIN and Tribune owned station. ABC and FOX. Not that anyone watches anything on ABC, but not having FOX in HD is kinda rough.

It looks like DTV threw us another bone here in the Hartford market. I just noticed I am receiving WTIC (61) as an HD Local as well as OTA. Almost there... maybe we'll see WTNH (8) up and running at some point soon.

[bonscott87]

I just noticed tonight that WXIN-HD Fox 59 out of Indianapolis is active. I thought this was a Tribune owned station. Hopefully this means there will many more to follow.

Our Fox station in Grand Rapids market was also just added a couple hours ago. It is also owned by Tribune.

I'd guess that Tribune and DirecTV just came to an agreement with all their stations so there should be plenty of additional stations added soon in many markets.

[JonesDus]

Looks like the Tribune / Directv agreement is in full swing. I just noticed that WGN was no longer on my custom guide, so I went to add it back and there were two stations listed (SD & HD). I added the HD and it's up and running in Chicago. :)

[bobnielsen]

KCPQ in Seattle is also now in HD!

The other Seattle Tribune-owned station, KMYQ (MyNetwork) is not yet carried, however.

[cal87]

FOX40 in Sacramento is active. That's another Tribune station.

[IndianaGary]

I just hope I don't have to wait for the new birds in the sky to get the CW out of Indy. It is another Tribune company. I live just a few miles from the tower, because it is broadcast from Kokomo for some reason, but the signal does not come in. Too strong or something.

[Jon D]

Don't forget about Hartford. We happen to be "blessed" with a LIN and Tribune owned station. ABC and FOX. Not that anyone watches anything on ABC, but not having FOX in HD is kinda rough.

Heh. Disregard my last. At least we got the important one. Wish I would have noticed it before House. LOL

[Newshawk]

Let me get this straight. We now have WGN in Chicago, the Fox affiliate in Grand Rapids, WTIC 61 (FOX) in Hartford, WXIN 59 (FOX) in Indianapolis, the Fox affiliate in Sacramento, KCPQ 13 (FOX) in Seattle and WPEC 13 (FOX) in W. Palm Beach. I'f this is right, I'll update the lists and get them out to you ASAP, Earl.

[TheRatPatrol]

I just hope I don't have to wait for the new birds in the sky to get the CW out of Indy. It is another Tribune company. I live just a few miles from the tower, because it is broadcast from Kokomo for some reason, but the signal does not come in. Too strong or something.
Sounds like you need an antenna attenuator, which filters out strong signals. But I can't seem to them anymore on RadioShack.com. :(

[Newshawk]

Sounds like you need an antenna attenuator, which filters out strong signals. But I can't seem to them anymore on RadioShack.com. :(
Face it, the Rat Shack is turning from a true electronics store to just another electronics boutique selling gear but de-emphasising the bits and pieces that made them what they are now.

[harsh]

But I can't seem to them anymore on RadioShack.com. :(You can say that about many things that Radio Shack carries. Their website is a national tragedy.

I purchased a variable attenuator not too long ago from an RS store near my workplace.

[bobnielsen]

Face it, the Rat Shack is turning from a true electronics store to just another electronics boutique selling gear but de-emphasising the bits and pieces that made them what they are now.

Once upon a time, Radio Shack had a single store in Boston and sold a lot of electonics from a catalog. This was about 50 years ago, before they were bought by Tandy.

[harsh]

This was about 50 years ago, before they were bought by Tandy.And now that they are back on their own, they still don't know what's going on.

[jaybee]

KTXL FOX 40 just showed up on my HR20 here in Sacramento!

[gsel1966]

KCPQ FOX 13 just showed up here in Seattle. Now where is KOMO ABC 4?!

[bonscott87]

Let me get this straight. We now have WGN in Chicago, the Fox affiliate in Grand Rapids, WTIC 61 (FOX) in Hartford, WXIN 59 (FOX) in Indianapolis, the Fox affiliate in Sacramento, KCPQ 13 (FOX) in Seattle and WPEC 13 (FOX) in W. Palm Beach. I'f this is right, I'll update the lists and get them out to you ASAP, Earl.


Just FYI that the Grand Rapids Fox station is WXMI.

I've also seen a report that the CW is now up in our market as well. I'll check tonight to see for sure. It's probably SD however since it's just a digital subchannel in our market.

[burnside]

I don't see anything new here in Portland, OR. Still only have Fox and NBC.

[packfan909]

KTXL FOX 40 just showed up on my HR20 here in Sacramento!

Just confirmed the same thing. Someone out there loves us!!!!

Now we just need FSN-BA HD to be added and I will be completely happy.

[Earl Bonovich]

The lists have been updated

[Radio Enginerd]

WHAT A GREAT DAY! Thank you Tribune and DTV!

FOX in HD in the Sacramento DMA!

And it beat OTA, I almost can't believe it! Now I have to consider how bad I want PBS and the HD-2's before I spend the time and money on an OTA antenna! :)

[Radio Enginerd]

The lists have been updated

Earl,

Do you know if the Tribune HD agreement included Dish Network or was it just exclussive to DTV? I'm curious.

[dan8379]

I still wish I had a better understanding of when the HD RSN's should be turned on. In Atlanta we supposedly have FSN South in HD, but every time there has been a college football game that is supposed to be in HD the channel carrying it says "program not available". It's not a blackout issue because the game is showing on our SD RSN. I believe during baseball season we had some Braves games on there, but since then I haven't seen anything.

[burnside]

I still can't believe that in Portland, OR we only have 2 friggin' HD channels available. Everyone else has at least 3! Come on!

[videojanitor]

Earl,

Do you know if the Tribune HD agreement included Dish Network or was it just exclussive to DTV? I'm curious.

That would be interesting to know, but my gut feeling is that this particular agreement is with DirecTV only. The fact that WGN-HD also went up yesterday is rather telling -- since that is not a "big four" station, it seems pretty likely THAT was the reason for the holdup on all the other Tribune stations. That is, Tribune probably wanted D* to carry WGN in HD, and was holding out on the other stations as a bargaining chip. Pure speculation on my part, but it would make sense from a business standpoint.

[Greg Bimson]

Tribune probably did want CW carried, but there are a lot more Tribune owns than just WGN Chicago and KTLA Los Angeles that could be carried. I suspect we'll see other CW and MyNetwork properties from Tribune soon.

[Earl Bonovich]

Earl,

Do you know if the Tribune HD agreement included Dish Network or was it just exclussive to DTV? I'm curious.

What ever agreement was made... I am sure it was between just DirecTV and the Tribune company.

[harsh]

I still can't believe that in Portland, OR we only have 2 friggin' HD channels available. Everyone else has at least 3! Come on!They're not picking on us: Providence only has two HD channels at this time.

[Newshawk]

In looking at the top 10 DMAs, I've noticed that with KTLA coming on in LA, seven of the 10 DMAs have 5 HD local channels available-4 CW stations and 3 MyNetwork stations. The only ones missing a fifth station are New York (1), Boston (7) and Houston (10). All three are Tribune-owned CW stations-WPIX 11 in New York, WLVI 56 in Boston and KHCW in Houston (as are KDAF 33 in Dallas and WDCW 50 in Washington, DC)-I wonder when they will be added to the HD line-up in the respective cities?

[Hutchinshouse]

Thanks to one of our users: Newshawk for creating the initial HD Locals - City By City What's Available map.

List current as of : 11/29/2006

DirecTV HD Locals-In-Locals By Name (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DIRECTV_lil_list.html)
DirecTV HD Locals-In-Locals By DMA (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_HDLIL_DMA.html)
DirecTV Locals-In-Locals Availabity By DMA (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_LIL_DMA.html)
DirecTV Locals-In-Locals Availabity By Name by City (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_LIL_CITY.html)
DirecTV Locals-In-Locals Availability By State/City (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_LIL_STATE.html)


We will use this thread to discuss it, and provide corrections/updates for it.


I read today that the CW network (KTLA) in HD was just added to the Los Angeles market?:eek2: Can this be confirmed?

[Earl Bonovich]

I've see the articles on it... regarding KTLA

And I think I have seen it mentioned here.

Newshawk is the one who updates the "Lists"... and he probably has just been busy to get to the latest updates... there have been a lot of changes this week.

[burnside]

They're not picking on us: Providence only has two HD channels at this time.

I saw that too, but Providence was just added. Here's hoping we get ABC and CBS by the spring.

[Newshawk]

Yes, I've been busy. 6-8 inches of snow can do that to you! I'll get the newly revised lists on their way to you, Earl...hope you're doing OK up there, since you're getting what we got in OK yesterday.

[TheMoose]

Yes, I've been busy. 6-8 inches of snow can do that to you! I'll get the newly revised lists on their way to you, Earl...hope you're doing OK up there, since you're getting what we got in OK yesterday.

While you yankees may be laughing about 6-8 inches of snow being a big deal, believe me it is a big deal down here!!

[Newshawk]

While you yankees may be laughing about 6-8 inches of snow being a big deal, believe me it is a big deal down here!!

Ah, but Moose, I AM a transplanted Yankee! The funniest thing was to pass two stranded Jeep Cherokees on the Broken Arrow Expressway tonight... I was driving a 15 year old Ford Taurus station wagon! Moral-it's not what you drive, it's how you drive it.

[carl6]

Ah, but Moose, The funniest thing was to pass two stranded Jeep Cherokees on the Broken Arrow Expressway tonight... -it's not what you drive, it's how you drive it.

Amen to that! Every single time we get a bit of snow or ice, it is the 4 wheel drive SUV's that are always in the ditch or mating with each other:lol: . The idiots driving them just don't know what they are doing:nono2:

Carl

[TheMoose]

Moral-it's not what you drive, it's how you drive it.

I wish more people knew that!
I'm a Firefighter in Tulsa & we've been running our butts off with all the fools thinking they know how to drive in the snow!

[Greg Bimson]

I figured out the next eight markets, at least according to DirecTV. Originally posted here (http://www.dbsforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4563540&postcount=4):

Buffalo, NY
Greenville-Spartanburg, SC; Asheville, NC
Harrisburg-Lancaster, PA
Jacksonville, FL; Brunswick, GA
New Orleans, LA
Spokane, WA
Tulsa, OK
Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NM

[MikeR7]

On the High Def Forum, someone posted that they were given a Jan 3rd date by Tech for Greenville SC

[keep amonte]

I just spoke with a really nice lady in customer retention that said Tulsa, OK locals probably won't come until late December, and that she also said "at least this will come before you that OTA on your HR20 is enabled"!

[LowandSlow]

I was just told by retention tonight that Harrisburg/Lancaster PA won't have HD locals until late February 2007. So much for the "Fall 2006" and "End of 2006" promises. The fact that she told me immediately afterwards that "We've been very good about meeting our targets" was quite humorous.

I figured out the next eight markets, at least according to DirecTV. Originally posted

Buffalo, NY
Greenville-Spartanburg, SC; Asheville, NC
Harrisburg-Lancaster, PA
Jacksonville, FL; Brunswick, GA
New Orleans, LA
Spokane, WA
Tulsa, OK
Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NM

[Greg Bimson]

The sad part, to me, is that the last DirecTV press release states eight more markets in HD by the end of the year, but it is quite possible DirecTV isn't even able to meet that.

[harsh]

I figured out the next eight markets, at least according to DirecTV. Originally posted here (http://www.dbsforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4563540&postcount=4):

Buffalo, NY
Greenville-Spartanburg, SC; Asheville, NC
Harrisburg-Lancaster, PA
Jacksonville, FL; Brunswick, GA
New Orleans, LA
Spokane, WA
Tulsa, OK
Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NMThis list was ripped from the DirecTV website and the stations listed are for Fall 2006 (specifically "this fall") turn-up. It is unfortunate that the web pages, un-authoritative as they are, are taken out of context like this. While it is technically still Fall for 12 days, I'm kind doubting that they will make more than three of them.

Here's a link: http://directv.com/DTVAPP/packProg/channelChart2.jsp?assetId=1100086

[Greg Bimson]

That is where the list was taken. A couple of people thought that "Brunswick, GA" and "Asheville, NC" were markets unto themselves.

DirecTV has stated they'd have eight more HD markets up by years end on their last press release. The eight markets listed came from their website.

Of course, DirecTV also announced earlier in the year they'd have 67 markets up by year's end, while the last press release ratcheted the number down to 57.

Just thought it imperative to state DirecTV has announced eight markets. However, the webpage has been, just like the press releases, revised over time.

[dtv757]

what happened to NORFOLK, VA HD locals?? how far is that pushed back now??

[Donnie Byrd]

what happened to NORFOLK, VA HD locals?? how far is that pushed back now??

Unfortunately, according to 3 different CSR's in Retention, it has been pushed back until "LATE 2007" :mad: One day last week i called and was told it was still up for December 2006, and the next day it was rolled back to 2007. Go figure!

Other than this, i have not been able to confirm from any other reliable source, whether it is correct information or not. Considering the track record of launch dates for many DMA's, this could be a long wait.

[benjaminmarle]

Unfortunately, according to 3 different CSR's in Retention, it has been pushed back until "LATE 2007" :mad: One day last week i called and was told it was still up for December 2006, and the next day it was rolled back to 2007. Go figure!

Other than this, i have not been able to confirm from any other reliable source, whether it is correct information or not. Considering the track record of launch dates for many DMA's, this could be a long wait.

That really blows! I bought the HR20 because it was announced to be here at the end of 2006. Otherwise I would have waited a few more months. Now I'm waiting for OTA.

[Donnie Byrd]

That really blows! I bought the HR20 because it was announced to be here at the end of 2006. Otherwise I would have waited a few more months. Now I'm waiting for OTA.

benjamin, i'm not a "Happy Camper" either. :( OTA is looking better all the time. :D

[GeorgeLV]

DirectTV has added the Las Vegas CBS KLAS channel 8. Las Vegas now has the entire big four in HD despite launching with only ABC and Fox.

[luisonline]

HD Locals in Fort Myers, FL shows as comming soon and areport on Directv website of October 10, 2006 states that we will have HD locals by the end of this year thats 14 days.

Any idea? or new information?

[Donnie Byrd]

HD Locals in Fort Myers, FL shows as comming soon and areport on Directv website of October 10, 2006 states that we will have HD locals by the end of this year thats 14 days.

Any idea? or new information?

Do as most of us have done. Call and ask, and most likely you will find that you are now in the "2007 Boat", with quite a large number of us. :lol:

[jcricket]

Anyone in Seattle hear anything about ABC coming online? CW?

Any rumors about PBS down the road?

If ABC were available the HR20 would be a lot more palatable (I don't trust its OTA capacities just yet).

[bobnielsen]

Anyone in Seattle hear anything about ABC coming online? CW?

Any rumors about PBS down the road?

If ABC were available the HR20 would be a lot more palatable (I don't trust its OTA capacities just yet).

The only information I have been able to get out of KOMO (ABC) is that they are still having discussions with Directv. My last email asking about progress went unanswered. Since Dish carries KOMO, I can't see where there would be serious issues. I believe that KSTW (CW) only recently started talks with Directv. PBS would be nice, but since the HD content is on a subchannel (and is mostly repeats), I wouldn't expect it to happen soon (maybe after the next launches).

Has Directv sent the OTA upgrade to HR20s in this area? The CSR I talked to the other day didn't think so (and she said there are no discounts or rebates at this time).

[twaller]

I haven't called, but I'm sure that the Flint-Saginaw DMA is in the 2007 boat as well.

[jcricket]

The only information I have been able to get out of KOMO (ABC) is that they are still having discussions with Directv. My last email asking about progress went unanswered. Since Dish carries KOMO, I can't see where there would be serious issues. I believe that KSTW (CW) only recently started talks with Directv. PBS would be nice, but since the HD content is on a subchannel (and is mostly repeats), I wouldn't expect it to happen soon (maybe after the next launches).

Has Directv sent the OTA upgrade to HR20s in this area? The CSR I talked to the other day didn't think so (and she said there are no discounts or rebates at this time).
Thanks for the update. I'm waiting "patiently" until at least ABC is available via satellite before I even consider the HR20.

[harsh]

Here we are in the first full day of Winter and NONE of the eight HD LIL markets alluded to on the DirecTV web page are up. The page hasn't changed as of this morning.

I'm not optimistic about Chris' list of "projected" markets to be added before year-end: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=54698 (at the bottom of the article).

Yeah, I'm still bitter about having only two channels in my market (#23) and I'm going to stay that way until the situation changes.

[myselfalso]

Hey, any word on the Harrisburg market? I've heard that we were expected to get it by early December . . . well, it's Christmas . . .

[bobnielsen]

The latest word on KOMO (ABC - Seattle) is that they have an agreement and the ball is in Directv's court to make it happen.

[CAL7]

I am confused about how NYC locals are handled, given that they are a special case with their national feeds. I get the four networks in SD on on Channels 2/4/5/7 and Channels 380/382/386/388; HD is on Channels 80/82/86/88.

The list shows NYC HD locals on Sat-99. I thought 99 was an MPEG4 bird, but I get them just fine with my HR10. Does 99 have both MPEG2 and MPEG4 transponders? As a rule are all locals MPEG4, with an exception for the east/west national feeds from NY and LA? Is it reasonable to expect that NY will stay MPEG2 to the bitter end?

How about RSN's.... for instance, YES is SD on Channel 622 and occasionally HD on Channel 94-96. Are the HD channels MPEG2 or MPEG4? Are they spot beam or CONUS?

Lastly, how narrow is a spot beam, i.e. expected radius?

Thank you.

[harsh]

The list shows NYC HD locals on Sat-99.NYC locals are both MPEG2 CONUS on 101? and MPEG4 spotbeam on 99.Does 99 have both MPEG2 and MPEG4 transponders?99 is all spotbeams.Is it reasonable to expect that NY will stay MPEG2 to the bitter end?As long as DNS is available and they don't do something to screw it up like Dish Network did.How about RSN's....RSNs are typically MPEG4 spotbeam. I don't know about YES.Lastly, how narrow is a spot beam, i.e. expected radius?Averaging less than 200 miles with the understanding that the spotbeam footprint is an ellipse. Some of the largest markets have the smallest footprints because they don't have any spare space for other markets.

[bobnielsen]

Directv 10 and 11 to be launched next year will have both spotbeams and CONUS beams from 99/103. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the NYC and LA locals get moved to CONUS transponders (for DNS) on one of these eventually (probably MPEG4, replacing the current NYC/LA spotbeamed locals).

[Newshawk]

Also, the New York and LA big four locals are just remapped to the 380s for DNS locals... they do not physically (or is that electronically) take up two channels each.

[CAL7]

Thanks harsh, bobnielsen, Newshawk. Great info!

Is it generally a rule that MPEG4 is used just for spot beams and MPEG2 is used for CONUS?

It seems that YES (SD 622) is on a CONUS MPEG2 transponder because I can receive it when I am in Florida in the winter (not that there is anything useful on YES in the winter). I wonder why they would not save CONUS bandwidth by moving it to a spotbeam?

When I get my HR20 in a couple of weeks, will I see another set of channels (not 80-88) with the NY HD locals?

Thanks again.

[Greg Bimson]

Because the feeds for Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) are what is used to fill the out-of-market sports packages. For example, MLB Extra Innings uses the YES feed for Yankees games sometimes, and all DirecTV does is remap channel 622 into the 700's range for Extra Innings. Just easier to keep everything on CONUS.

[bobnielsen]

Thanks harsh, bobnielsen, Newshawk. Great info!

Is it generally a rule that MPEG4 is used just for spot beams and MPEG2 is used for CONUS?

It seems that YES (SD 622) is on a CONUS MPEG2 transponder because I can receive it when I am in Florida in the winter (not that there is anything useful on YES in the winter). I wonder why they would not save CONUS bandwidth by moving it to a spotbeam?

When I get my HR20 in a couple of weeks, will I see another set of channels (not 80-88) with the NY HD locals?

Thanks again.

Originally all channels were MPEG2. MPEG4 technology is much newer and Directv chose that for adding new HD channels on the Spaceway satellites. These happen to be all spotbeam, but there are plenty of MPEG2 SD channels using spotbeams. The new CONUS HD channels which will be on Directv 10 and 11 will most likely use MPEG4 because it uses the bandwidth more efficiently.

All of the SD regional sports networks are on CONUS beams because their areas often overlap several spotbeams (plus there is the sports pack). I suspect that when there is more bandwidth for HD (the new satellites) that the RSNs will be on CONUS beams in HD (full-time).

If Directv were to switch all channels to MPEG4 they would gain a whole lot of bandwidth to add channels. Of course they would have to replace all of the older receivers to do that (which would stir up the Tivo addicts even more).

With the HR20, you will get the NY HD locals on their "normal" channel numbers (4, 5, etc.) in MPEG4, in addition to those in the 80s (MPEG2).

[CAL7]

With the HR20, you will get the NY HD locals on their "normal" channel numbers (4, 5, etc.) in MPEG4, in addition to those in the 80s (MPEG2).Though I got sidetracked with some academic questions out of curiosity, my original intent was to determine if I had a choice to record MPEG2 or MPEG4 (assuming equal quality, to achieve more effective storage by choosing MPEG4). It seems then that I will want to record the normal channels, rather than the 80 range. Thanks.

[harsh]

It seems then that I will want to record the normal channels, rather than the 80 range.That's the conventional rationale.

ATSC>MPEG2>MPEG4

[Capmeister]

I haven't called, but I'm sure that the Flint-Saginaw DMA is in the 2007 boat as well.

Yes. I did. It's my DMA too. LATE 2007 they say now. I love how they give a press release saying it's coming out by the end of 2006, then you have to call to find out it's going to be a year late. :(

[dtv757]

LIN JUST SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH VERIZON FIOS. so WVBT (fox) and WAVY (nbc) will so be added to the FIOS TV lineup.
http://www.lintv.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=273&Itemid=114

what is taking D* so long:mad: :mad: :mad:

[bobnielsen]

LIN JUST SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH VERIZON FIOS. so WVBT (fox) and WAVY (nbc) will so be added to the FIOS TV lineup.
http://www.lintv.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=273&Itemid=114

what is taking D* so long:mad: :mad: :mad:

Just because Verizon agreed to LIN's unreasonable demands, it doesn't mean that Directv will.

[harsh]

LIN JUST SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH VERIZON FIOS. so WVBT (fox) and WAVY (nbc) will so be added to the FIOS TV lineup.
[url]http://www.lintv.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=273&ItemidDon't confuse agreements and press releases with carriage.

As for being able to come together with Lin, they seem to think that their content was handed down by a deity and therefore is worthy of substantial financial compensation.

[z4nola]

I received the following response to my inquiry about HD locals coming to New Orleans by end of 2006. Bad news!
-----------------------------------------

My apologies. Priorities often change in this business and unfortunately a decision was made to put a hold on all remaining HD local markets until we launch the new satellites mid-year and have adequate capacity. Sorry for the false start. The markets will launch later this year - likely in the Q3 time frame. I hope you'll hang in there with us. Robert

Robert Mercer
Director, Public Relations
DIRECTV, Inc.
(310) 726-4683

[DawgLink]

I received the following response to my inquiry about HD locals coming to New Orleans by end of 2006. Bad news!
-----------------------------------------

My apologies. Priorities often change in this business and unfortunately a decision was made to put a hold on all remaining HD local markets until we launch the new satellites mid-year and have adequate capacity. Sorry for the false start. The markets will launch later this year - likely in the Q3 time frame. I hope you'll hang in there with us. Robert

Robert Mercer
Director, Public Relations
DIRECTV, Inc.
(310) 726-4683

Being in Uptown, me and you both feel this. :nono2:

[carl6]

It is my understanding that there is still a possibility that a few new HD LIL markets could be turned up in the next month or so. You might see your MPEG4 locals before Q3.

Carl

[Panchovilla]

With the HR20, you will get the NY HD locals on their "normal" channel numbers (4, 5, etc.) in MPEG4, in addition to those in the 80s (MPEG2).

I'm curious to know how this will work because my SD locals run from channel 2 thru the 30's. Where will they go if my DNS in HD will be on 4, 5 etc.?

[TheRatPatrol]

I'm curious to know how this will work because my SD locals run from channel 2 thru the 30's. Where will they go if my DNS in HD will be on 4, 5 etc.?
You will have 2 listings for channels 4, 5, etc. One channel will be the HD feed while the other will be the SD feed. If I remember right, the HD feed is listed first followed by the SD feed (or vis versa).

[Newshawk]

You are right, Rat Patrol, the HD channel is listed first, designated by the call letters of the station (for example, 2 KCBS). The SD channel is listed second, designalted by the D* two letter market designator (2 LA). If you use an OTA antenna, then those channels are listed last. They are the ones with the "-n"after the channel number and "DT" after the call letters (2-1 KCBS-DT).

[TheRatPatrol]

You are right, Rat Patrol, the HD channel is listed first, designated by the call letters of the station (for example, 2 KCBS). The SD channel is listed second, designalted by the D* two letter market designator (2 LA). If you use an OTA antenna, then those channels are listed last. They are the ones with the "-n"after the channel number and "DT" after the call letters (2-1 KCBS-DT).
Thanks for the info.

I don't understand why D* doesn't label the MPEG4 channels ABC-HD, CBS-HD, Fox-HD, NBC-HD, etc., same for the SD feeds.

[DawgLink]

Thanks for the info.

I don't understand why D* doesn't label the MPEG4 channels ABC-HD, CBS-HD, Fox-HD, NBC-HD, etc., same for the SD feeds.

Because that would be the easy/simple thing to do? :hurah:

I am j/k, I do like DirecTV :D

[jaredy72]

This is an email sent to me from Robert Mercer


New Orleans, along with several other markets, was put on hold due to some capacity and equipment inventory issues. Latest word is that we'll launch in late February. Thanks for hanging in there with us. Robert

Robert Mercer
Director, Public Relations
DIRECTV, Inc.
(310) 726-4683

[DawgLink]

Jared, I got that same email several weeks ago.

Have since heard it was pushed back until the new sats are up.

[jaredy72]

I recieved that email jan 10

Of course that could be when the sats launch not channel launch

[DawgLink]

I know, I am just informing you what numerous other D* reps are stating.

Maybe some are still saying Feb but the reality seems to be pointing towards much later.

[Jeff Richardson]

This is an email sent to me from Robert Mercer

I got a similar e-mail from DirecTV re New Orleans on 1/12/07:

At the moment, New Orleans HD locals are expected to be available by late February, 2007. I know that this may be a little delayed, but we are doing everything that we can to make this happen. Please understand that offering HD locals in an increasing number of markets, nationwide, involves many changes in the way that we broadcast and do business with the major networks.

-Jeff

[ekb6]

L.A. local HD is on 101 and SD are on 103, I know this because for some reason my five-dish system cannot receive a signal on 103 and I get zero of the 60 or so SD locals, but I do receive the four network HD channels (and their SD counterparts, oddly enough) off 101 (For some reason the one HD non-network local DTV carriers, KTLA, doesn't come in at all -- SD or HD.

Don't much care, since I don't live within 1500 miles of L.A., but thought I'd post the correction since even some DTV tech people think all the HD channels are on 103, but the east and west coast nets -- 80-something DTV channels -- are actually on 101 and a standard three-LNB dish will get them -- or maybe even an old-LNB dish, who knows.

Thanks to one of our users: Newshawk for creating the initial HD Locals - City By City What's Available map.

List current as of : 11/29/2006

DirecTV HD Locals-In-Locals By Name (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DIRECTV_lil_list.html)
DirecTV HD Locals-In-Locals By DMA (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_HDLIL_DMA.html)
DirecTV Locals-In-Locals Availabity By DMA (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_LIL_DMA.html)
DirecTV Locals-In-Locals Availabity By Name by City (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_LIL_CITY.html)
DirecTV Locals-In-Locals Availability By State/City (http://www.dbstalk.com/hr20/html/DTV_LIL_STATE.html)


We will use this thread to discuss it, and provide corrections/updates for it.

[ekb6]

Directv 10 and 11 to be launched next year will have both spotbeams and CONUS beams from 99/103. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the NYC and LA locals get moved to CONUS transponders (for DNS) on one of these eventually (probably MPEG4, replacing the current NYC/LA spotbeamed locals).

Is spot beaming the reason distance viewers get L.A. HD channels but not L.A. SD locals?

[Greg Bimson]

ekb6, you are close...

DirecTV is broadcasting both the HD and the SD Los Angeles NETWORKS in MPEG2, CONUS. It is these feeds that comprise the Distant Network Service (DNS). The SD feeds of the LA networks are coming from 101; the HD feeds for LA come from both 101 and 119. The MPEG4 networks are on a spot-beam from the satellite at 103.

However, when it comes to the other 18 or so non-network SD Los Angeles channels, they are on a spot-beam on the DirecTV 4S satellite.

[Newshawk]

L.A. local HD is on 101 and SD are on 103, I know this because for some reason my five-dish system cannot receive a signal on 103 and I get zero of the 60 or so SD locals, but I do receive the four network HD channels (and their SD counterparts, oddly enough) off 101 (For some reason the one HD non-network local DTV carriers, KTLA, doesn't come in at all -- SD or HD.

No correction needed at all, ekb. The LA HD locals are on a spot beam on the 103 in MPEG4, while at the same time they are available nationally on the 101 and 119 (KCBS-101/7, KNBC-119/32, KABC-119/24 and KTTV (FOX)-119/22, as confirmed on my HR10-250 just a few minutes ago.) If you lived in LA, you'd get bith the MPEG2 and MPEG4 versions of the HD locals. Living half a continent away, you can onjly get the MPEG2 versions. The SD DNS channels are all on the 101, so that's a no-brainer.

Don't much care, since I don't live within 1500 miles of L.A., but thought I'd post the correction since even some DTV tech people think all the HD channels are on 103, but the east and west coast nets -- 80-something DTV channels -- are actually on 101 and a standard three-LNB dish will get them -- or maybe even an old-LNB dish, who knows.

Ah, but the DTV tech people are right... the LA HD locals ARE on the 103. But you're right... the LA HD locals ARE on the 101 (and 119) birds... so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me! (Oh, sorry... I watched The Princess Bride again last night, and I must have channeled Vizzini for a second...)

[hdtvfan0001]

Seems to me that I saw channel 17-1 and 17-2 (TBS) in HD (Braves) on his local channel list.when visiting my brother in Atlanta. I didn't see it in the city list. When I spoke to him today, he said sure enough, its in his guide list.

[bobnielsen]

Seems to me that I saw channel 17-1 and 17-2 (TBS) in HD (Braves) on his local channel list.when visiting my brother in Atlanta. I didn't see it in the city list. When I spoke to him today, he said sure enough, its in his guide list.

The ones with dashes are OTA.

[gb33]

Indy STILL does not have CBS. Other big three are here though. Oh how I wish there were another option than Tivo to record just HD locals. I am sick of the whole HR20 fiasco.

[n3ntj]

Question.. I live near Harrisburg, PA and our local RSN is Comcast DC (since Comcast Phily) isn't on D*. I see D* customers in DC get Comcast DC in HD. If Comcast DC is my local RSN, why can't I get this in HD?? Am I just outside the DC spotbeam? It appears from my research that Harrisburg, PA is within the DC spotbeam.

Anyone?

[Greg Bimson]

DirecTV has only turned on Comcast Sports Net Mid-Atlantic to those customer that reside in the DC market only. I am in the Baltimore market and cannot receive the channel in HD.

[ajwillys]

Don't know how long its been there (my guess is not long) but I just checked the guide and it looks like D* has finally added WRAL 5 (CBS) and WRAZ 50 (FOX) in HD for the Raleigh, NC market. Both of these channels are owned by Capitol Broadcasting Company so I am not surprised they got added at the same time.

Unfortunately for me, they did it after I spent countless hours (and a few bucks) tuning my antenna to get these two channels. Oh well, I guess now I have a backup.

[Earl Bonovich]

The lists have been updated.

[chef8181]

Still no locals for Hampton Roads (Norfolk/Virginia Beach)???? This was suppose to happen by late 2006. Anybody have an updated status on this? D* CSRs have no idea.

[apace]

The lists have been updated.

Hello, been lurking, 1st post.
I'm an E* sub considering switching to D*
On HD locals, I noticed Huntsville, AL and a few others say "Not Yet"
Does this mean they are in the plans? Will they be anytime soon?

I've been told by E* that Huntsville HD locals are not in the plans for 2007.

Thanks

[n3ntj]

The lists have been updated.

Earl, do you have any way of knowing what cities will be added for HD locals at the end of Feb? The list on D*'s website changes frequently (every so often a few cities disappear without HD local service being added there) and I can't find out if and when Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA will be added.

[n3ntj]

DirecTV has only turned on Comcast Sports Net Mid-Atlantic to those customer that reside in the DC market only. I am in the Baltimore market and cannot receive the channel in HD.

OK, I guess that makes sense...or not.

If I am within the DC spotbeam and Comcast DC is my local RSN, why not turn it on for us viewers in the area?

[leww37334]

Hello, been lurking, 1st post.
I'm an E* sub considering switching to D*
On HD locals, I noticed Huntsville, AL and a few others say "Not Yet"
Does this mean they are in the plans? Will they be anytime soon?

I've been told by E* that Huntsville HD locals are not in the plans for 2007.

Thanks
APACE I am in S TN. I get the Huntsville stations HD via over the air antenna. Even a small indoor zenith silver sensor works well here, if you are not behind the mountains. PM me if you would like to discuss further.

[BigSey]

Anybody have any news on KOMO-4 (ABC) here in Seattle? I read that they had finally agreed to a deal with D* but I haven't seen the channel show up like FOX did a few months ago. Will we have to wait till Q3 too or can they just add it?

[bobnielsen]

Anybody have any news on KOMO-4 (ABC) here in Seattle? I read that they had finally agreed to a deal with D* but I haven't seen the channel show up like FOX did a few months ago. Will we have to wait till Q3 too or can they just add it?

I've sent a few emails to Directv, but just get the canned, non-informative response. Most of the HD LiL spotbeams have at least 4 networks plus 1 RSN, so I doubt bandwidth is an issue. KSTW and KMYQ probably won't show up in HD until at least one of the new satellites is up, but I don't know what is holding things up with KOMO. Inquiries to the station either go unanswered or they say it is now up to Directv.

[harsh]

The list on D*'s website changes frequently (every so often a few cities disappear without HD local service being added there) and I can't find out if and when Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA will be added.If your market isn't on the current list, there is little reason to believe that it will be added until the fourth quarter of this year at the earliest (when DirecTV 10 goes live).

[dkgator]

Anyone have an idea of how soon, coming soon is?

[harsh]

Anyone have an idea of how soon, coming soon is?Think Q4 2007.

[apace]

APACE I am in S TN. I get the Huntsville stations HD via over the air antenna. Even a small indoor zenith silver sensor works well here, if you are not behind the mountains. PM me if you would like to discuss further.

Accoding to antennaweb I'm about 64 miles west of the Huntsville towers.
Wouldn't I need a large directional antenna and amp mounted pretty high?

Thanks

[chef8181]

If your market isn't on the current list, there is little reason to believe that it will be added until the fourth quarter of this year at the earliest (when DirecTV 10 goes live).

That's crap. My market (Norfolk, VA) was on the list for the end of 2006 now it's not. The only reason I signed up for a HR20 was I figured even if they didn't have it by the end of 2006 it would happen pretty soon in 2007. But 4th quarter is just not acceptable. I think it's time to cancel my installation. :mad:

[bobnielsen]

Does anyone know why Directv is dragging their feet on adding more locals using Spaceway 1 and 2? I have never seen any information on how many spot beams or transponders these birds carry, but they must have at least enough capacity to carry all the additional HD LILs which were originally announced last year, as well as carry four or five signals in all of the existing DMAs.

[Greg Bimson]

I've hypothesized elsewhere that this must be a technical issue...

DirecTV had announced over the past summer that they'd have 67 markets available by the end of 2006. During the last round of HD market additions in mid-November, DirecTV had put 49 markets in service and stated they'd add only eight more markets. DirecTV has not added one market since.

Turns out DirecTV purchased more MPEG4 encoders from Tandberg during December, 2006; it was their first Tandberg purchase in 2006. DirecTV purchased about $20 million in first generation MPEG4 encoders in 2005, on three different orders. The December, 2006 purchase was for the newer generation encoder.

Did DirecTV purchase encoders from another vendor during 2006? Is this what has caused the missed deadlines in the press release? If all of a sudden the eight markets that were supposed to show up in December, 2006 appear in Feburary, 2007, then it appears to be more of a technical issue.

Whatever the reason, DirecTV has been tight-lipped about it.

[buist]

Earl, do you have any way of knowing what cities will be added for HD locals at the end of Feb? The list on D*'s website changes frequently (every so often a few cities disappear without HD local service being added there) and I can't find out if and when Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA will be added.

I live in Jacksonville, FL and have been anxiously awaiting HD locals, also.. It would be helpful if we could get a new list of upcoming HD locals and their expected go live dates.. They had already announced the current list for 2006.. I understand things change, but it would be nice to know how soon they will be available (hopefully they are not tied to new launches)..

I actually went out and replaced my HR10-250's with HR20's because of the announcement for Jacksonville. Having updating information would certainly help others with their buying decisions..

Tim

[bobnielsen]

I've hypothesized elsewhere that this must be a technical issue...

DirecTV had announced over the past summer that they'd have 67 markets available by the end of 2006. During the last round of HD market additions in mid-November, DirecTV had put 49 markets in service and stated they'd add only eight more markets. DirecTV has not added one market since.

Turns out DirecTV purchased more MPEG4 encoders from Tandberg during December, 2006; it was their first Tandberg purchase in 2006. DirecTV purchased about $20 million in first generation MPEG4 encoders in 2005, on three different orders. The December, 2006 purchase was for the newer generation encoder.

Did DirecTV purchase encoders from another vendor during 2006? Is this what has caused the missed deadlines in the press release? If all of a sudden the eight markets that were supposed to show up in December, 2006 appear in Feburary, 2007, then it appears to be more of a technical issue.

Whatever the reason, DirecTV has been tight-lipped about it.

Directv has replaced the hardware at some of the HD uplink locations, so apparently there was more than one version out there prior to the new Tandberg order. Perhaps the Tandberg stuff is better or less expensive and it made sense to wait for it to be available.

An explanation would be nice, not only for us customers but for the press which hasn't jumped on it as much as I would have expected.

[moonman]

Maybe the merger of Tandberg Television with Arris Corp.(A major Broadband-
cable supplier) had something to do with it??
http://www.tandbergtv.com/newsview.ink?newsid=993

[harsh]

It would be helpful if we could get a new list of upcoming HD locals and their expected go live dates.. They had already announced the current list for 2006.. I understand things change, but it would be nice to know how soon they will be available (hopefully they are not tied to new launches)..According to the official DirecTV mouthpiece (as quoted in post #187 on page 8 of this thread), there will be no new HD locals until after one of the new satellites goes on line. If you read down a little further (post #195), others are quoting a later/earlier e-mail that suggests New Orleans will go live in late February.

Will the real Robert Mercer please make up his mind?

I'm inclined to believe that if they could have added any markets, they would have done so some time in the two months since the last markets were turned up.

[Goldlexus]

We are holding off on buying an HDTv until we have more HD locals available. We are in the Portland OR area and currently only have NBC and one other (can't remember which but it is not ABC or CBS). When will ABC & CBS also be available? Where can I find that out? Why would we have just a couple HD locals and not all of them?

[Newshawk]

We are holding off on buying an HDTv until we have more HD locals available. We are in the Portland OR area and currently only have NBC and one other (can't remember which but it is not ABC or CBS). When will ABC & CBS also be available? Where can I find that out? Why would we have just a couple HD locals and not all of them?

Explanation here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=68497

[harsh]

We are holding off on buying an HDTv until we have more HD locals available. We are in the Portland OR area and currently only have NBC and one other (can't remember which but it is not ABC or CBS). When will ABC & CBS also be available? Where can I find that out? Why would we have just a couple HD locals and not all of them?KATU (Fisher) is probably in the same boat as their sister station KOMO in Seattle. I'm not sure what's up with KOIN, but it may have something to do with recently changing hands to Montecito Broadcast Group LLC/Blackstone Group managed by SJL Broadcast Management Corporation.

Dish Network offers all four...

[realracer2]

I checked my receiver this morning and DirecTV has turned on CBS HD in Indiana, in time for the Super Bowl. I also read in another forum, that CBS HD was also turned on in some other parts of the country Friday.

[enso]

Hi Guys,

Do you know when DirecTV will turn on Chanel 13 and Chanel 11 (wb11) to hdtv?

[burnside]

CBS HD is shown as a channel now on our Guide in Portland, OR, but when I change to that channel, there is a message stating that "Directv doesn't have the rights to show the Super Bowl in your area". What a tease! Why did they even show the channel on our guide all of a sudden if we don't get the HD for CBS???

Also, to the poster above, the reason why Portland doesn't get all the HDs is because DirecTv and the locals have to agree on a deal before the channel is released in our area. Only FOX and NBC locals have a deal with Directv at this time. :(

[Newshawk]

I checked my receiver this morning and DirecTV has turned on CBS HD in Indiana, in time for the Super Bowl. I also read in another forum, that CBS HD was also turned on in some other parts of the country Friday.
So, is this the Indianapolis CBS station that's on? Also, what forum did you see the report in and which cities have had CBS (or other stations) added?

[gb33]

They must all be owned by the same greedy owners. I cn't recall the name right now. This must all be related to the amt of ad support of the Super Bowl and they don't want DTV to get any more viewing than it has too. Only option until after tomorrow (?) is via OTA here in Indianapolis.

[realracer2]

So, is this the Indianapolis CBS station that's on? Also, what forum did you see the report in and which cities have had CBS (or other stations) added?


Yes, it is the Indianapolis CBS station that is on, but like one other poster said, when I tried a program about the Super Bowl, it said that DirecTV does not have the rights to broadcast the Super Bowl in your area.

The other forum where I was at this morning was the satellite guys.

By the way, even though I have been a subscriber to DirecTV, since it first became available in Indiana, I sent an email saying that if they did not show the Super Bowl in the Indianapolis area, in HD, after turning on CBS HD that I am canceling my service.

[gb33]

By the way, even though I have been a subscriber to DirecTV, since it first became available in Indiana, I sent an email saying that if they did not show the Super Bowl in the Indianapolis area, in HD, after turning on CBS HD that I am canceling my service.

I am with you on the frustration. But this is much more Lin's fault than DTV in my opinion. They probably WANT you to go cancel with DTV and go to say comcast where their HD channel is available, along with a slew of advertising and fees paid to them. Lin, the owner of several channels not yet on DTV is the one to blame here I think.

[eric.starwars]

Im with you Indiana guys, seen it this mourning and thought WTF!!
DTV shoould NOT turn the HD channle on if its not going to lut us have it. My SD WISHTV looks like crap on my 50in LCD.
Stupid they dont turn it on.

[pgfitzgerald]

The CSR I just spoke to told me they'll start airing WREG-DT (CBS) at midnight tonight in Memphis. I hope that's true.

Paul

[gsel1966]

So this is the E-mail I got from Fisher regarding KOMO (ABC) in Seattle...

"Thank you for your message. We have been in negotiations with DirecTV and have reached a final agreement with them which is now in the documentation phase. We have given DirecTV full permission to carry our HD signal and hope that this will begin very soon."

I don't know about you all but if your agreement isn't documented how can it be final...

[burnside]

I got this message for CBS in the Portland, OR area:

Thank you for your message. We have been in negotiations with DirecTV and have reached a final agreement with them which is now in the documentation phase. We have given DirecTV full permission to carry our HD signal and hope that this will begin very soon.

Looks like the same canned response. I emailed Directv and post their response when I get it.

:(

[eric.starwars]

I just sent an email it WISH TV in Indianapolis asking for them to hurry up and agree with DTV to show CBS in HD.Im not holding my breath.

[BigSey]

So this is the E-mail I got from Fisher regarding KOMO (ABC) in Seattle...

"Thank you for your message. We have been in negotiations with DirecTV and have reached a final agreement with them which is now in the documentation phase. We have given DirecTV full permission to carry our HD signal and hope that this will begin very soon."

I don't know about you all but if your agreement isn't documented how can it be final...


Hope it happens soon. Bummer that KOMO is the only station my OTA antenna can't reliably pick up.

[bobnielsen]

Hope it happens soon. Bummer that KOMO is the only station my OTA antenna can't reliably pick up.

Likewise (now that KCPQ is carried, anyway). Emails to Directv only get a canned, uninformed response.

[sfmilstead]

So, on Sunday when D* made our local CBS HD feed "active" so that they could kindly point out what we already know, that D* and our local affiliate have not come to terms on an agreement, I immediately checked the boards and saw notes that other markets were told that they would be getting the feed fully the following day at midnight. Well, I'm not sure if other markets (specifically Memphis listed above) did have their market fully light up, but in Portland, this was not the case. The HD channel disappeared a few hours after the Superbowl.

However, not knowing this would happen, I reprogrammed the one CBS show I record on Monday nights over to the HD version of the channel.

Guess what got recorded?

The HD version of my show!

So, it seems as though D* is in fact carrying these feeds, but has them locked down until paperwork is signed and made official for them to be able to offer the channels to us. This bodes well, as it means when paperwork is signed, we will hopefully get HD channels very soon afterward.

Salud,
Sean

[kmr26]

I spoke to a D* Tech. Rep today and she advised the D* computer has been recently updated on HD Locals in the New Orleans Area. She stated N.O. Locals will (Should) be active Mid- April 2007. We will see!

[burnside]

So, on Sunday when D* made our local CBS HD feed "active" so that they could kindly point out what we already know, that D* and our local affiliate have not come to terms on an agreement, I immediately checked the boards and saw notes that other markets were told that they would be getting the feed fully the following day at midnight. Well, I'm not sure if other markets (specifically Memphis listed above) did have their market fully light up, but in Portland, this was not the case. The HD channel disappeared a few hours after the Superbowl.

However, not knowing this would happen, I reprogrammed the one CBS show I record on Monday nights over to the HD version of the channel.

Guess what got recorded?

The HD version of my show!

So, it seems as though D* is in fact carrying these feeds, but has them locked down until paperwork is signed and made official for them to be able to offer the channels to us. This bodes well, as it means when paperwork is signed, we will hopefully get HD channels very soon afterward.

Salud,
Sean

That is crazy! So do you get HD CBS yet or can you still record HD CBS?

[sfmilstead]

That is crazy! So do you get HD CBS yet or can you still record HD CBS?


I can't change my tuner manualy to the HD CBS feed, as it doesn't show up as a channel I receive. However, the "Season Pass" I created does still work. Sadly, I didn't change the only other CBS program we record at the same time (it was a show of my wife's on Friday's, and I was mainly interested in making sure that the Monday show went through).

Of course, now that I've posted this, I'm sure that D* will research this and cut me off.

[DawgLink]

Rumor in New Orleans is locals may be soon as well

BUT

I don't believe it. I still think it is when the new sats are up