622 (and 211) remotes

[mkerdman]

Do the new generation Dish 622/211 remotes operate interoperably, and, can they be programmed to operate multiple receivers in the same room/house on easily programmed codes (1-15)?

How good is the RF range on the 622 and 211 remotes? i.e. basement rack of Dish recievers operated remotely from next floor up media room.

The document below says I can only expect the ViP 622 Remote to operate in RF mode, expect SAT in AUX Mode is IR & RF.

http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes/6.3.shtml

What does that mean in the primary room operation?

Thanks!


Murray Kerdman

[Ken Green]

Do the new generation Dish 622/211 remotes operate interoperably, and, can they be programmed to operate multiple receivers in the same room/house on easily programmed codes (1-15)?
How good is the RF range on the 622 and 211 remotes? i.e. basement rack of Dish recievers operated remotely from next floor up media room.
The document below says I can only expect the ViP 622 Remote to operate in RF mode, expect SAT in AUX Mode is IR & RF.
http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes/6.3.shtml
What does that mean in the primary room operation?
Thanks!
Murray Kerdman
Murray,
Perhaps someone else will understand your question better. Both the VIP211 and the VIP622's primary remote (TV1) are IR, not RF. The secondary remote for the 622 is RF (UHF).

Yes, you can program the remotes to operate completely independent of each other. I have 6 remotes running 3 receivers with no crossover.

I believe what is meant by "primary room operation" is the primary remote is IR, and therefore must have a degree of line-of-site to the receiver.

There are kits available to change IR remotes to RF. If you are considering locating a VIP211 on a different floor, the remote would need to be converted to RF. Same for TV1 for the VIP622.

[mkerdman]

How good is the RF range on the 622 and 211 remotes? i.e. basement rack of Dish recievers operated remotely from next floor up media room.


Murray Kerdman

[CABill]

How good is the RF range on the 622 and 211 remotes? i.e. basement rack of Dish recievers operated remotely from next floor up media room.
Murray Kerdman
The RF range on the 211 is zero - it is IR only (a 5.3 remote). The kit that was mentioned is mislabeled in terms of "direction" but it comes with a special UHF remote (different from the 6.3 that comes with the 622 for TV2) that has an IR transmitter to send to the remote sensor on the 211. It could also send IR to the 622's TV1 and you can change the remote address from X to Y to switch which you want to control. I wouldn't suggest that route though - you will only have the single special UHF remote that comes with the $40 IR-to-UHF kit. It really has a special UHF remote that gets converted to IR to send to the receiver. See it at http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/products/accessories/ and/or http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/pdf/technology/remote/IR-to-UHFProUpgradeKit132327.pdf and/or
http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes/8.1.shtml

I've never used one and can't find the info quickly, but I recall that the 8.1 UHF Pro used with that kit is NOT compatible with all the other UHF Pro remotes. You'd need to get confirmation on that though. It is possible that it went the other way and the 8.1 remote couldn't be used directly to control the UHF TV2.

You can use regular IR pyramid type things to use IR in the distant rooms to control the 211 or the 622's TV1. You can use any UHF Pro 6.0, 6.2, 6.3, 8.0 remote to control TV2 on the 622. They list 200' as the range but that is too generous with obstructions. 75' with multiple walls is quite doable, and the receive antenna for the UHF need not be located at the receiver(s).

UHF Pro 6.2 or 6.3 (that one comes with the 622) have two special features. One is an alternate B band that has been used hundreds of feet away from the receiver. The other feature is that it can be used to control TV1 via UHF instead of controlling TV2. You would need to get a 2nd remote (a 6.0 is cheaper than another 6.2) for TV2. It would be possible to use the same 6.3 to control both TV1 and TV2, but it is more complicated than just changing from address 1 to address 2 - there is a switch that also needs to be changed. If you operate the 622 in Single mode, TV1 and TV2 display the same thing and you don't need to change anything.

For a 211, you need something that carries the IR signal from a distant room and echos to the 211, or switch to the DISH 8.1 UHF remote that sends IR converted signals from the 8.1's UHF.

[Ken Green]

Murray,
The RF range on the 622 UHF should not be any problem. One of my TV's is in the basement (TV2) on the opposite end of the house from the 622. It's about 25' down, below ground, and about 110' across....works fine.

[JAB]

Does anyone know if an older UHF remote will work with the 622? I have an older "PVR" silver remote that is UHF. When I try to program it to operate on the same UHF channel as the 622, it does not work. I have tried setting the 622 to A and B bands and neither works.

Thanks,
JAB