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capted
10-05-06, 02:44 PM
Hey guys any ideas??? I recently installed the at9 dish in place of the 3lnb dish I had. Now I know you should use a sat meter but I have an old one that didn't work for the initial set-up(could not lower the meter signal and it was pinned or no signal at all). O.K. so I set up a web cam on one of my servers near my t.v. and used a laptop to view the 101,110 and 119 signal strengths through the web cam!! At the dish (with the laptop) I peaked the 2 sats 101 than the 119 as per the at9 manual. Than I tweaked the 2 fine tune settings. Perfect upper 90's on all 3 sats.(on a d11 receiver high 70's on the h20) Now for the problem. I can not view the 99 or 103 sat signals on my h20 receiver to fine tune them..No signals at all:eek2: I live in n.y. and I am getting channels 2,4,5 and 7 in hd. So is it safe to say that the 99 or 103 sats are aimed right??? I am not sure which sats or channels are the actual mpeg4 streams. I also did install the b-band convert on both of my h20's. I also read a post that the h20 has a software glitch that causes this problem. Just wanted to know if the hd channels I am getting proves the dish is correct...

iceman2a
10-05-06, 02:51 PM
Hey guys any ideas??? I recently installed the at9 dish in place of the 3lnb dish I had. Now I know you should use a sat meter but I have an old one that didn't work for the initial set-up(could not lower the meter signal and it was pinned or no signal at all). O.K. so I set up a web cam on one of my servers near my t.v. and used a laptop to view the 101,110 and 119 signal strengths through the web cam!! At the dish (with the laptop) I peaked the 2 sats 101 than the 119 as per the at9 manual. Than I tweaked the 2 fine tune settings. Perfect upper 90's on all 3 sats.(on a d11 receiver high 70's on the h20) Now for the problem. I can not view the 99 or 103 sat signals on my h20 receiver to fine tune them..No signals at all:eek2: I live in n.y. and I am getting channels 2,4,5 and 7 in hd. So is it safe to say that the 99 or 103 sats are aimed right??? I am not sure which sats or channels are the actual mpeg4 streams. I also did install the b-band convert on both of my h20's. I also read a post that the h20 has a software glitch that causes this problem. Just wanted to know if the hd channels I am getting proves the dish is correct...

You should be ok! My H20 still shows 0's on the 99 when my hr20 shows good signals! As long as you are still getting your MPEG4 locals, you are getting Ka signal!

capted
10-05-06, 02:53 PM
Thanks, is channel 2,4,5,and 7 the mpeg4 streams????

randyk47
10-05-06, 02:57 PM
I can't really answer your question other than to say I don't trust the signal strengths I read on my H20. I also have an H10 off the same dish and it shows almost maxed strengths across the board. Before I read about the H20 and it's signal strength problems I went as far as to swap out the H20 with the H10 just to see if I had a line problem. After the swap I was getting maxed out strengths on the H10 where the H20 had been and garbage on the H20 where the H10 had been. Came here and found out the H20 is famous for this behavior. I'm in the mode now that as long as the programs come in clean and clear on the H20 the meter readings mean nothing so I'm not going to worry about it.

D-Bamatech
10-05-06, 04:16 PM
Hey guys any ideas??? I recently installed the at9 dish in place of the 3lnb dish I had. Now I know you should use a sat meter but I have an old one that didn't work for the initial set-up(could not lower the meter signal and it was pinned or no signal at all). O.K. so I set up a web cam on one of my servers near my t.v. and used a laptop to view the 101,110 and 119 signal strengths through the web cam!! At the dish (with the laptop) I peaked the 2 sats 101 than the 119 as per the at9 manual. Than I tweaked the 2 fine tune settings. Perfect upper 90's on all 3 sats.(on a d11 receiver high 70's on the h20) Now for the problem. I can not view the 99 or 103 sat signals on my h20 receiver to fine tune them..No signals at all:eek2: I live in n.y. and I am getting channels 2,4,5 and 7 in hd. So is it safe to say that the 99 or 103 sats are aimed right??? I am not sure which sats or channels are the actual mpeg4 streams. I also did install the b-band convert on both of my h20's. I also read a post that the h20 has a software glitch that causes this problem. Just wanted to know if the hd channels I am getting proves the dish is correct...


the h-20 WILL NOT show 99 or 103 ANYMORE PERIOD. D* sent new software out sometime ago (2 months or so) AND now since then you WILL NEVER see
a sig response per the TV for those (2) sats.

IF you have 90's on 101 and 119 (and usually uper 80's on 110) YOU ARE FINE. ( For example:At-9 yesterday with an analog "whiner meter" and needle gauge to view= tivo 10-250 showed 97% both tuners & d-11 at 98%)

Good job Btw... Very intuative and w/ quite the insight to achieve!! (lap top /cam ect)

Need a job lol?

And if i can ask.. why did you install this yourself instead of letting DTV?

capted
10-05-06, 04:40 PM
Wow, thanks for the responses. I wish the 99 sat signal meter will come back again... But it works . The only reason I installed the dish myself is the roof is brand new and I also know where the rafters are (marked the shingles when the roof went up. Never had a problem with leaks and I have installed at least 20 dishes for family and friends. I have heard horror stories when an installer roof mounted dishes. I also prewired my house with cat5,phone,alarm, and quad shield coax!! The cables to the roof are hidden in conduit also. Just don't want any holes or cable problems from a poor install.(Not knocking installers in any way) Plus I'm a bit nuts when it comes to my electronics..... I even installed video surveillance so I can check my house at work..Ha Ha It's pretty funny when I can call my wife and tell her to step away from the mail man????(she doesn't think its too funny though) :D Thanks for the help!!!!

bobnielsen
10-05-06, 04:46 PM
The H20 does show 103 signal strength, although it may be zero if you are not located in the footprint of a spotbeam. 99 will show n/a on all transponders even if you are receiving one of them.

D-Bamatech
10-05-06, 04:53 PM
Wow, thanks for the responses. I wish the 99 sat signal meter will come back again... But it works . The only reason I installed the dish myself is the roof is brand new and I also know where the rafters are (marked the shingles when the roof went up. Never had a problem with leaks and I have installed at least 20 dishes for family and friends. I have heard horror stories when an installer roof mounted dishes. I also prewired my house with cat5,phone,alarm, and quad shield coax!! The cables to the roof are hidden in conduit also. Just don't want any holes or cable problems from a poor install.(Not knocking installers in any way) Plus I'm a bit nuts when it comes to my electronics..... I even installed video surveillance so I can check my house at work..Ha Ha It's pretty funny when I can call my wife and tell her to step away from the mail man????(she doesn't think its too funny though) :D Thanks for the help!!!!

You DID right (self install).. and Knock installers. well whats wrong with the truth anyway?. he he.. I dont bite my tongue about it and the national install force for D* is a freekin Joke as a whole. = if you only knew .. my friend.. if you only knew. > ride with me one week and Ill show ya what i go behind all the time (yesterday AGAIN as a fact). Pure appalling nightmares!

capted
10-05-06, 06:21 PM
This is true. I have watched cables installed from the roof to the basement flapping in the wind!!!! I just do not understand how the installer is going to check the 99 sat signal when it's not on the receiver(if they check). What if the dish was aimed a bit to the right. You could probably see the 101,103,110 and the 119 sats without ever catching the 99!!! Is this possible????

capted
10-05-06, 06:36 PM
The H20 does show 103 signal strength, although it may be zero if you are not located in the footprint of a spotbeam. 99 will show n/a on all transponders even if you are receiving one of them.

Does anybody know the spot beams ???? Not sure which is for n.y

paulman182
10-05-06, 06:36 PM
The installer is supposed to check all the satellites with his meter.

The dish is installed before the HD receiver is ever hooked up, usually.

capted
10-05-06, 06:46 PM
The installer is supposed to check all the satellites with his meter.

The dish is installed before the HD receiver is ever hooked up, usually.

Good point, but is there a meter that is smart enough to know which sat is 99 yet??? Don't want to ask a stupid question but I have not used any of the newer meters:confused:

capted
10-05-06, 07:18 PM
If I am thinking correctly, the meters use 101 and 119 "only" to aim the dish. Now is it not possible to miss the 99 bird altogether???

bobnielsen
10-05-06, 09:20 PM
Good point, but is there a meter that is smart enough to know which sat is 99 yet??? Don't want to ask a stupid question but I have not used any of the newer meters:confused:

They exist:

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=ACUTRACIII

My H20 could report signal strength on 99 before the software updated.

D-Bamatech
10-05-06, 10:43 PM
They exist:

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=ACUTRACIII

My H20 could report signal strength on 99 before the software updated.

for a re-tiree you sure Know alot (wink). You are correct i used to see 100% on the 99 here before the software change that screwed it up.

Heck then after that i would see 103 showing some frag of a signal when i know d*** well there is no 103 here..

heck d mandated to put up the At-9 BEFORE either sat was even functionable
as a fact. makes since of that stupidity. I put one of the first in this state as a fact and quite a few before they ever turned on the 99.

=aim a dish at something that produces no sig and or tone period. What in the world is that?

I laughed and laughed for months over this... and it Just proves to me that once Hughes left completely D* has become a joke in developement period IMHO and has been for quite some time.. then the Tivo decision anchored the proof.. Why was that done.. MONEY and not a cust reflection or care one!

From General moters and hughes till today.. ha.... what a joke.. The place is filed with Greed and lies and money based decisons without logic one.
I watched the baby launch ya know and handled them ever since. there is NO comparison anymore. Just money based idiots at the helm with alot of illegal activity as defined by law! Look at the court decisions recently for instance.

hell its own leader called it a "turd bird".. what a great impresion to feed the cust base with confidence... huh?

Claus
10-05-06, 11:16 PM
Lots of us who install AT9 understand no 99 or 103 is needed, just peak 101 and 119 like suppose to and dish is perfect. Why cannot Mr. bamtech understand?
Claus


=aim a dish at something that produces no sig and or tone period. What in the world is that?

I laughed and laughed for months over this... and it Just proves to me that once Hughes left completely D* has become a joke in developement period IMHO and has been for quite some time.. then the Tivo decision anchored the proof.. Why was that done.. MONEY and not a cust reflection or care one!

D-Bamatech
10-06-06, 04:16 AM
WOW.. your funny... i think you just printed MY words from months ago and NOW your saying them to me.. Lmao too funny and a obvious "follower"..
BTW did Patrick and those wanna be films you watch tell ya that before ya called "the kettle black"..

Your a trip to be honest and just Make me laugh.

Why cant i understand.? cause your a roller coaster of nothing but words that mean Nothing to me thats why.. and i wont print what i really think of you cause Earl will send another yellow card (warning) like i play soccer or something.. LOL

Oh and do that thing ya did months ago> "Im am clause".. (lmao).. Now.

Wana see some more pictures ? Wanna see a 22000$ w/ my hands job
just completed that sure has nothing to do with some micky mouse DBS dish?.. What else will i have to do to shut you up "film watcher"?.

Just go away and listen to "them' cause i dont buy into a thing you say! Too much half steppin and back peddling for me ya know.

EDIT:

I guess ya didnt read this (below) BEFORE ya ran your mouth AGAIN sat puppy! (its in this same thread and I printed it Not you... ya make me wonder just how old you are to be honest .. Mr. "IM AM CLAUS".. lol
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IF you have 90's on 101 and 119 (and usually uper 80's on 110) YOU ARE FINE. ( For example:At-9 yesterday with an analog "whiner meter" and needle gauge to view= tivo 10-250 showed 97% both tuners & d-11 at 98%)
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Ps. last time you "poped up in my face" ya tried to tell me that for future sats i had do all this wobble adjustment stupidity and adjust the At-9for something thats not there and "take away" strength from the sats that are there in essence. NOW you say just peak the 101/119 and all is well. he he. WHICh i made comment remeber months ago that every single cust that i installed prior to 99 launch rec their HD local spot b and had a 100% shining on their on screen meter when i recalled weeks and months after install when 99 went live here. Guess what i did then and i still do today he he. THE SAME thing . SO how come now you say just what i did even before the thing was active and in this forum also. I guesss you have touched a few more since then and found out HUH?
Now months later tell what that fine adjustment does that the nominal elevation bolts cant or wont do? HUH? (llol)

Good grief!

Blitz68
10-06-06, 07:14 AM
for a re-tiree you sure Know alot (wink). You are correct i used to see 100% on the 99 here before the software change that screwed it up.

Heck then after that i would see 103 showing some frag of a signal when i know d*** well there is no 103 here..

heck d mandated to put up the At-9 BEFORE either sat was even functionable
as a fact. makes since of that stupidity. I put one of the first in this state as a fact and quite a few before they ever turned on the 99.

=aim a dish at something that produces no sig and or tone period. What in the world is that?

I laughed and laughed for months over this... and it Just proves to me that once Hughes left completely D* has become a joke in developement period IMHO and has been for quite some time.. then the Tivo decision anchored the proof.. Why was that done.. MONEY and not a cust reflection or care one!

From General moters and hughes till today.. ha.... what a joke.. The place is filed with Greed and lies and money based decisons without logic one.
I watched the baby launch ya know and handled them ever since. there is NO comparison anymore. Just money based idiots at the helm with alot of illegal activity as defined by law! Look at the court decisions recently for instance.

hell its own leader called it a "turd bird".. what a great impresion to feed the cust base with confidence... huh?


If it is such a joke then leave. By staying and thinking it's a joke makes you only look like a fool.:nono2:

capted
10-06-06, 07:18 AM
Wow didn't want to start a war!!!! That acutracIII looks nice. I am not an installer so I really do not want to spend that much on a meter... Than again the roof is a lot more:D I seem to have the at9 aimed perfect, but I think it is stupid not to have a meter on the receiver to prove this..If d* did this than I could just imagine who they"certify" to install!!!(again, I'm not bashing installers) I'm sure there are alot of great installers. I just don't want to gamble. I also have a problem with the new d* receivers not working with my replay units i.r. signals. I fixed that, but why should I have to "fix" my replay and sat receivers when I pay for both.. You are right about the MONEY thing..

Blitz68
10-06-06, 07:27 AM
Wow didn't want to start a war!!!! That acutracIII looks nice. I am not an installer so I really do not want to spend that much on a meter... Than again the roof is a lot more:D I seem to have the at9 aimed perfect, but I think it is stupid not to have a meter on the receiver to prove this..If d* did this than I could just imagine who they"certify" to install!!!(again, I'm not bashing installers) I'm sure there are alot of great installers. I just don't want to gamble. I also have a problem with the new d* receivers not working with my replay units i.r. signals. I fixed that, but why should I have to "fix" my replay and sat receivers when I pay for both.. You are right about the MONEY thing..

No war. I just get sick and tired of people bashing something but they do not change to something supossedly better. Some people just like to bitch just to bitch.

As far as the signal meters, yes DTV should have something on there recievers that works, that makes no sense. I wonder what the reason could be. Maybe it was not accurate and they took it off because people were complaining about a low signal?

Maybe Super Earl can find out :p

bobnielsen
10-06-06, 07:32 AM
No war. I just get sick and tired of people bashing something but they do not change to something supossedly better. Some people just like to bitch just to bitch.

As far as the signal meters, yes DTV should have something on there recievers that works, that makes no sense. I wonder what the reason could be. Maybe it was not accurate and they took it off because people were complaining about a low signal?

Maybe Super Earl can find out :p

Since it works for 103 but not 99, I suspect that it is a programming error. The signal level is higher than for 101, 110 and 119. Besides, the "failure" during setup isn't something they would deliberately do.

capted
10-06-06, 07:58 AM
Yes, I fail 3 of 4 99 and 103 sat tests on the h20!! But yet my mpeg4 channels are fine.. I would also guess that the h20 sat meters on the 101,110 and 119 are "de-tuned" a bit (about 20% lower than a sd receiver) because of the higher 99 and 103 signal levels that you stated?? I hope the software bugs get worked out.

Claus
10-06-06, 09:48 AM
D* says peaking for old 18” and 3 lnb dish will give maybe .5 deg error. Maybe more. New AT9 suppose to be less than .1 deg because some new Ka satellite are close and will give problems. AT9 has way to get less than .1 deg if Mr. bamtech follow instruction. If use coarse bolts only then peak is no better than old dish. No .1 deg. Can not peak on 99 or 103 because some part of US make them close or far apart and error is result. Peak on 101 first then 119 for skew then again 101 fine peak. 99 and 103 is perfect result and not need to look at. All this in D* training. If I am wrong, please other installer speak up! Maybe Mr. bamtech thinks I am stupid because my English is not perfect.
Claus

Ps. last time you "poped up in my face" ya tried to tell me that for future sats i had do all this wobble adjustment stupidity and adjust the At-9for something thats not there and "take away" strength from the sats that are there in essence. NOW you say just peak the 101/119 and all is well. he he. WHICh i made comment remeber months ago that every single cust that i installed prior to 99 launch rec their HD local spot b and had a 100% shining on their on screen meter when i recalled weeks and months after install when 99 went live here. Guess what i did then and i still do today he he. THE SAME thing . SO how come now you say just what i did even before the thing was active and in this forum also. I guesss you have touched a few more since then and found out HUH?
Now months later tell what that fine adjustment does that the nominal elevation bolts cant or wont do? HUH? (llol)

Good grief!

cybrsurfer
10-06-06, 12:42 PM
Thanks, is channel 2,4,5,and 7 the mpeg4 streams????

Yes they should be for NY with the H20 and HR20 with the AT-9 Dish. NY on channels 80,82,86 and 88 are your MPEG 2 locals for NY.

capted
10-06-06, 01:17 PM
Yes they should be for NY with the H20 and HR20 with the AT-9 Dish. NY on channels 80,82,86 and 88 are your MPEG 2 locals for NY.

Great!! Thanks, now I am Sure the at-9 is aimed correctly..I'm getting 2,4,5,7 on the receiver as well as 80,82,86 and 88.

D-Bamatech
10-07-06, 12:28 AM
Claus NOT stupid..( i apologize if you think that)
You just seem to Just frustratingly stepping somewhere ya dont belong is all.
I mean its like me telling a dr how to do heart surgery or something. sorry its the truth w/o me be all arrogant and such Again.

I dont like being rude .. really i dont.. but i cant stand for somebody to climb in "my tree" either when they cant obviously even touch the first limb closes to the ground.

I want You to go to your next At-9 and set the elevation at the desired degree w/ the mast PERFECTLY level. Then take that fine adjustment and turn it. IT STILL JUST simply raises and lowers the dish elevation is ALL.
IMO its whole purpose is for the ease of adjustment due to weight and nothing more. If you have finesse (extreme delicate touch and babying) and understanding and attention to 32nds of an inch then neither one of those adjustments does a damn thing that any nominal sat dish bolts cant do. I mean think here. good grief.! You have side to side Azimuth and elevation (and skew) period in sat allignment. It doesnt matter which bolts or what manufactor , or what dish it is either. So 12 bolts or 4.. the same thing occurs PERIOD.

Dont believe those people you work for brother. use your Mind and your hands.
to seek discovery of FACTS. trust me.. 12 yrs and ive Never done anything but that.. and i sure dont Listen to "them" thats for sure.

BTW.. do you work for Direchtech for real?.. I asked ya that months ago and i cant help BUT see the overbearing HSP root each time you post something, Sorry.. it just seems that way whether true or not.

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And to the guy above who said im the fool for sitting in here with these layman and wanna be's in so many words.. well your prob right.. lol

But regardless i get a kick out of this place.. its funny sorry.

Call it attitude.. what ever you want.. theres a hell of alot of confidence AND tenure here to back it ALL up that i can promise ya.
Refernences that stretch across this country and a record and cert Number that in 12 yrs doenst have a blemish one. So if i didnt have that .. the person i am within in would NOT let me print in this nature.. that i also promise ya.

Dbs is just a weee wee small part of my Biz.. i walk in alot bigger environments and engineering of structures than any residential home can muster that is the realness of it.. But hey... where is there a forum for Large Medical center and commercial/ industrial wiring and AV distribution per say... ya know.. Let me know when ya find one ill gladly like to be there where there is understanding and not so many Blind eyes... he he

Claus
10-07-06, 10:55 AM
Mr. bamtech still does not understand simple science for AT9 peak and his customer will suffer. Why do heads of some people get in way of truth? How much perfect peak do you get if instruction is ignored? How do you know if new Ka satellite will interfere? I do not work for directech. I dot not need to boast to public of my work or how many year I do something.
Claus
Claus NOT stupid..( i apologize if you think that)
You just seem to Just frustratingly stepping somewhere ya dont belong is all.
I mean its like me telling a dr how to do heart surgery or something. sorry its the truth w/o me be all arrogant and such Again.

I dont like being rude .. really i dont.. but i cant stand for somebody to climb in "my tree" either when they cant obviously even touch the first limb closes to the ground.

I want You to go to your next At-9 and set the elevation at the desired degree w/ the mast PERFECTLY level. Then take that fine adjustment and turn it. IT STILL JUST simply raises and lowers the dish elevation is ALL.
IMO its whole purpose is for the ease of adjustment due to weight and nothing more. If you have finesse (extreme delicate touch and babying) and understanding and attention to 32nds of an inch then neither one of those adjustments does a damn thing that any nominal sat dish bolts cant do. I mean think here. good grief.! You have side to side Azimuth and elevation (and skew) period in sat allignment. It doesnt matter which bolts or what manufactor , or what dish it is either. So 12 bolts or 4.. the same thing occurs PERIOD.

Dont believe those people you work for brother. use your Mind and your hands.
to seek discovery of FACTS. trust me.. 12 yrs and ive Never done anything but that.. and i sure dont Listen to "them" thats for sure.

BTW.. do you work for Direchtech for real?.. I asked ya that months ago and i cant help BUT see the overbearing HSP root each time you post something, Sorry.. it just seems that way whether true or not.

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And to the guy above who said im the fool for sitting in here with these layman and wanna be's in so many words.. well your prob right.. lol

But regardless i get a kick out of this place.. its funny sorry.

Call it attitude.. what ever you want.. theres a hell of alot of confidence AND tenure here to back it ALL up that i can promise ya.
Refernences that stretch across this country and a record and cert Number that in 12 yrs doenst have a blemish one. So if i didnt have that .. the person i am within in would NOT let me print in this nature.. that i also promise ya.

Dbs is just a weee wee small part of my Biz.. i walk in alot bigger environments and engineering of structures than any residential home can muster that is the realness of it.. But hey... where is there a forum for Large Medical center and commercial/ industrial wiring and AV distribution per say... ya know.. Let me know when ya find one ill gladly like to be there where there is understanding and not so many Blind eyes... he he

D-Bamatech
10-07-06, 05:06 PM
Mr. bamtech still does not understand simple science for AT9 peak and his customer will suffer. Why do heads of some people get in way of truth? How much perfect peak do you get if instruction is ignored? How do you know if new Ka satellite will interfere? I do not work for directech. I dot not need to boast to public of my work or how many year I do something.
Claus

Today Clause.. TO- Day.. (pics) > cross check the score on that TV (lol)if ya like. > (commercial install with ONLY one cble/ IRD ever to be used.)
AND this IS the new WNC dish also . Wait till ya see one of these and those Adjustments you love so much cause "they" told you so Lol. The Fine adjust elvation has been re-designed and Now is in the vertical and IS Made w/ REAL hardware. No more that "micky mouse" linear bolt stupid magnesium Junk.
The dither (side to side) IS now very limited and IS *fixed( stationary) @ certain points and HAS THE WORDS "factory preset" printed on it. Sure there is still adjustment there if ya want to use it with the side to side but there NOT much there at all../ THERE IS NO DITHER PIN EITHER.. In fact I used the new Elevation vertical construement to just check it out. Well it is Nice i must admit.. I used it to gain about 3 "ticks" on the Needle of the meter just to play with it... but was it a neccesity.. NOPE.. i can losen the same nominal bolts and use my knee for the same thing.. (lol)..
6336

6337

6338

PS.. Btw where IS the IRD (rec) ? = thank goodness for the H-20 and the RF is ALL i got to say... he he

Claus
10-07-06, 07:47 PM
Dither (I do not know actual meaning) is still there on new mount you have installed today. No pin to pull but still must tune off satellite by several turns, read meter, count turns to get same reading on other side, set to exact center of 2 meter reading. Principal is exact same, you need to do so new Ka satellites do not interfere with your customer. May I ask, did you do all the things Mr. bamtech?
Claus
Today Clause.. TO- Day.. (pics) > cross check the score on that TV (lol)if ya like. > (commercial install with ONLY one cble/ IRD ever to be used.)
AND this IS the new WNC dish also . Wait till ya see one of these and those Adjustments you love so much cause "they" told you so Lol. The Fine adjust elvation has been re-designed and Now is in the vertical and IS Made w/ REAL hardware. No more that "micky mouse" linear bolt stupid magnesium Junk.
The dither (side to side) IS now very limited and IS *fixed( stationary) @ certain points and HAS THE WORDS "factory preset" printed on it. Sure there is still adjustment there if ya want to use it with the side to side but there NOT much there at all../ THERE IS NO DITHER PIN EITHER.. In fact I used the new Elevation vertical construement to just check it out. Well it is Nice i must admit.. I used it to gain about 3 "ticks" on the Needle of the meter just to play with it... but was it a neccesity.. NOPE.. i can losen the same nominal bolts and use my knee for the same thing.. (lol)..
6336

6337

6338

PS.. Btw where IS the IRD (rec) ? = thank goodness for the H-20 and the RF is ALL i got to say... he he

D-Bamatech
10-07-06, 08:15 PM
Dither (I do not know actual meaning) is still there on new mount you have installed today. No pin to pull but still must tune off satellite by several turns, read meter, count turns to get same reading on other side, set to exact center of 2 meter reading. Principal is exact same, you need to do so new Ka satellites do not interfere with your customer. May I ask, did you do all the things Mr. bamtech?
Claus

What ever Santa!

Your not goona listen period .. i see.

So yeah to pasify.. "sure i wrote down all those #'s and then i twisted this and then that.. then i stood on my head and counted to 10.. then i just kept "chanting" a mantra to that Film talking "patricK" as i told myself..> that a meter and 12 yrs of Art mean nothiing.. But some training video from from D* that is based on and directed @ HSP "kids" and their capabilities as to teach ....So yeah it is my "light to follow"... Huh ? and OH.. K.. so Yep Clause i Did all that mess .. sure i did it and then i Called commercial accts to activate as i stood on my head again at the end with a zip tie in my left hand .. while holding a screw clip in the other.. .......

JUST LIKE "THEY" SAY.

I got some land i need to sale BTW... just never mind the gators .. i promise its not in a "swamp" in Florida...

What ya gonna tell me on the AMC-4 FTA for Monday?.. What? to adjust the linear polarity on the LNB "skew" ? What do i have to do then to achieve a matched Sig quality as well as sig strength.. Do it all NAked and write that mess down w/ a pen and paper TOO!! cause some guy in Texas OR El Sungundo said so..
Lmao.. get real..