ViiV Feature of the HR20

[MikeW]

Any MSRP on WHS? I'm really looking forward to getting off of beta and setting this up permanently.

[racermd]

Any MSRP on WHS? I'm really looking forward to getting off of beta and setting this up permanently.

Technically, there won't be any MSRP on WHS by itself since it'll be OEM-only SKUs.

I know what you mean, though. Estimated prices (granted, as of a few months ago) were hovering around $200 or so for the US market. Got that info at this site (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070819-windows-home-server-released-into-the-wild.html) (apparently posted on 8/19/07).

I still can't seem to find anyone that's carrying it. Neither Newegg nor Amazon have it listed yet, much less anyone else I can think of. However, Amazon has some WHS systems from HP listed (sans price).

[MikeW]

Here's an actual price of $178. Don't know what oei is, but it is the first retail price I've seen.

http://www.buy.com/prod/1pk-win-home-svr-win32-dsp-oei-dvd-cd-dvd-10-clt-kit-only/q/loc/105/205631289.html

[petergaryr]

I just did a forum search for "Vista", but couldn't find a specific thread.

Just for fun yesterday after the CE, I connected the HR20-700 to my network. The Dell E310 desktop PC doesn't have any indication of it being VIIV certified. However, after enabling media sharing in Vista Home Basic, everything is working in terms of sharing music and photos.

While I didn't think I'd ever be interested in using that feature of the HR20, I showed it to my wife and even she thought it useful. Go figure!

[HarleyD]

Here's an odd one. I only just recently networked my HR20.

My PC is running XP Home Edition and is not a ViiV machine.

My wife's PC is running XP MCE and is one of the very first ViiV machines that came out (v.1.0.3 I think).

My PC works just fine with Media Share. I enabled the HR20 (unknown device) in WMP11 and set the sharing properties on My Music, Pictures, Playlists and Videos.

My wife's PC does not have any of the ViiV features described in the documentation for enabling Media Share for ViiV, which requires Viiv 1.5 or better. So I tried enabling the device the same way I had done on my PC, enabling the device in WMP11 and setting the sharing on the folders, etc.

In media share my wife's PC shows up, I can even navigate down the folders and see the individual files, but when I attempt to play music or a slideshow I get erros that is cannot access the media followed by another message 'grabbing content'.

So my "old" PC works fine with Media Share.

My wife's early (pre-1.5) ViiV PC does not.

Has anyone else encountered this problem, and more importantly has anyone else resolved this problem?

[EMoMoney]

Does the HR20 only recognize .wma files?

[AlbertZeroK]

It recongizes what ever files the software you use on your PC to connect to the HR20 recognizes. For example, if you can play the audio file in Windows Media Player, and you connect your HR20 to your PC using Windows Media Player, than you can play that file on the HR20.

But out of the box, I'd say you can play MP3 (I have) and WMA (not sure if you can play protected WMA files though.)

[EMoMoney]

It recongizes what ever files the software you use on your PC to connect to the HR20 recognizes. For example, if you can play the audio file in Windows Media Player, and you connect your HR20 to your PC using Windows Media Player, than you can play that file on the HR20.

But out of the box, I'd say you can play MP3 (I have) and WMA (not sure if you can play protected WMA files though.)

I am seeing my PC, but it is only showing the .wma files. I created a playlist of .mp3s and the HR20 recognizes the playlist, but indicates there are no files. I've made sure WMP11 is sharing all files with all ratings.

[Spanky_Partain]

Try this link...
Follow ALL of the instructions...
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631

Then you can follow up with this link as well...
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99327

[EMoMoney]

Try this link...
Follow ALL of the instructions...
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631

Then you can follow up with this link as well...
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99327

I tried one more thing before I left for work. I copied an album that I had synced to my pocket PC back to my PC and the HR20 recognizes that folder, just not the other mp3s that I imported into my library. I'm curious if it's because the mp3s are on a network drive. I have imported all the mp3s into my library and sharing from my WMP11.

[Spanky_Partain]

I tried one more thing before I left for work. I copied an album that I had synced to my pocket PC back to my PC and the HR20 recognizes that folder, just not the other mp3s that I imported into my library. I'm curious if it's because the mp3s are on a network drive. I have imported all the mp3s into my library and sharing from my WMP11.

Yes, you cannot share music from other sources. It must be on the computer with the share running.

It is kind of like mapping a drive from a server, then trying to share that mapped drive to others for use. Permissions/Ownership do not participate in that way.

[EMoMoney]

Thanks.

[freshone]

Thought I would share this. I bought a new DVD burner and it came with Nero Smartstart. I usualy wouldn't use it but I thought I would check it out. Turns out that it has a Nero Mediashare which I started up. Lo and behold when I went to watch TV I checked out the Menu on the HR20 and sure enough it was there! SO now I have Twonky, WMP11 *and* Nero Media running on the HR20 and surpisingly enough, no issues with any of them!

So if anyone is still having issues, I would try Nero. That is, if you have it or can get it.

[Spanky_Partain]

Thought I would share this. I bought a new DVD burner and it came with Nero Smartstart. I usualy wouldn't use it but I thought I would check it out. Turns out that it has a Nero Mediashare which I started up. Lo and behold when I went to watch TV I checked out the Menu on the HR20 and sure enough it was there! SO now I have Twonky, WMP11 *and* Nero Media running on the HR20 and surpisingly enough, no issues with any of them!

So if anyone is still having issues, I would try Nero. That is, if you have it or can get it.

You are correct, just as stated in this thread...
Get Connected (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99327) and this link to Nero 7 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=826937&postcount=50)

[boilerjt]

I tried one more thing before I left for work. I copied an album that I had synced to my pocket PC back to my PC and the HR20 recognizes that folder, just not the other mp3s that I imported into my library. I'm curious if it's because the mp3s are on a network drive. I have imported all the mp3s into my library and sharing from my WMP11.

I have been able to share mp3s in WMP11 from a Linux share (SAMBA). The instructions are in this thread: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631

Look at the first post toward the end.

[Spanky_Partain]

I have been able to share mp3s in WMP11 from a Linux share (SAMBA). The instructions are in this thread: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631

Look at the first post toward the end.

I missed that one. Thanks for the correction.

Making a seperate entry on the main thread with this note!

You do awesome work boilerjt.

[Spanky_Partain]

I tried one more thing before I left for work. I copied an album that I had synced to my pocket PC back to my PC and the HR20 recognizes that folder, just not the other mp3s that I imported into my library. I'm curious if it's because the mp3s are on a network drive. I have imported all the mp3s into my library and sharing from my WMP11.

Yes, you cannot share music from other sources. It must be on the computer with the share running.

It is kind of like mapping a drive from a server, then trying to share that mapped drive to others for use. Permissions/Ownership do not participate in that way.

I have made corrections on this in the Get Connected (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99327) link and it is true that you can share mapped drives via a couple of methods either by using WMP11 or Nero 7.

[bfmstanford]

Try increasing the Streaming Buffer Size in Twonky. This fixed my stuttering problems .

Can I increase streaming buffer size like this in WM11? My HR20 gets a stuttering problem when playing music. Thanks in advance. :)

[boilerjt]

Can I increase streaming buffer size like this in WM11? My HR20 gets a stuttering problem when playing music. Thanks in advance. :)

I have not run across any way to play with the buffer size in WMP11.

[TWJR]

At one time the hr20 was able to play music from an external HD connected to my PC. Now it only plays the C drive on the PC. If I want to play whats on the HD I need to copy it to the C drive. I'm using Viiv and WMP 11. Has anyone else run into the problem?

[Earl Bonovich]

At one time the hr20 was able to play music from an external HD connected to my PC. Now it only plays the C drive on the PC. If I want to play whats on the HD I need to copy it to the C drive. I'm using Viiv and WMP 11. Has anyone else run into the problem?

That would be something with your MEDIA SERVER on your PC... as it is the one that handles all the PC aspects of it, and "serves-up" the files to the HR20.

HR20 doesn't care where it is ultimately from... as it just asks the MEDIA SERVER on your PC, send me "this selection from your catalog".

What Media Server are you running?

[Spanky_Partain]

At one time the hr20 was able to play music from an external HD connected to my PC. Now it only plays the C drive on the PC. If I want to play whats on the HD I need to copy it to the C drive. I'm using Viiv and WMP 11. Has anyone else run into the problem?

Click on the networking help link in my signature and look for the Alternate Media Sources section. It will show you the correct way to do this for mapped drives in Windows. You will need to edit your Windows registry, so you better know what you are doing in there or you could make the PC unbootable and an install may be required.

[tuff bob]

Hey --- can anyone that has it working, can you see if a music file to have an ampserand causes the file to be unplayable?

[bhelton71]

Hey --- can anyone that has it working, can you see if a music file to have an ampserand causes the file to be unplayable?

This is harder to find than you would think and I'm not 100% sure this is what you wanted:

I tested these 3 scenarios

Song title with &

Velvet Revolver>Libertad> 06 - Pills, Demons & Etc..mp3

Artist Name with &

Sylvian & Fripp>Damage

Album Name with &
Dick Dale>King of the Surf Guitar- The Best of Dick Dale & His Del-Tones


All 3 scenarios work for me - this is under TVersity.

[freshone]

Welp, I have another issue (LOL). I moved over WMP to my new Vista machine. Shared the HR20, added my library over.

Now, when I go to select my MUSIC folder I get, "Unable to Access Media". Strange thing is, is that I have pics in my MUSIC lib, and *those* show up when I select photos. Very strange.

Is it a Vista issue? Everything else is pretty much the same connection wise (Linksys Wireless Gateway to the HR20).

Anyone?

Thanks!

[MikeR]

Welp, I have another issue (LOL). I moved over WMP to my new Vista machine. Shared the HR20, added my library over.

Now, when I go to select my MUSIC folder I get, "Unable to Access Media". Strange thing is, is that I have pics in my MUSIC lib, and *those* show up when I select photos. Very strange.

Is it a Vista issue? Everything else is pretty much the same connection wise (Linksys Wireless Gateway to the HR20).

Anyone?

Thanks!

I have Vista running on a HP laptop, but am not seeing this problem.

Have you shared that specific folder?

Doug provided this step by step to sharing procedure for me.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1089546&postcount=8

[freshone]

Yeah I am sure I did but I will recheck it. I remember reading somewhere about having to actualy config Viiv to allow sharing as well?

Did you have to do that?

[MikeR]

No I didn't. I did check my network properties setting to "share"
http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9892&d=1189043857

Someone offered this on a XP Pro machine.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=757104&postcount=379

[bhelton71]

Yeah I am sure I did but I will recheck it. I remember reading somewhere about having to actualy config Viiv to allow sharing as well?

Did you have to do that?

I think thats only if you had the original ViiV software from Intel. They do not appear to be updating it anymore and you probably would not have it on a PC built recently.

[freshone]

Yeah well, I downloaded Tversity...not a problem, although I find the UI kinda confusing....

Problem solved...strange though...very strange....

[gtink]

Welp, I have another issue (LOL). I moved over WMP to my new Vista machine. Shared the HR20, added my library over.

Now, when I go to select my MUSIC folder I get, "Unable to Access Media". Strange thing is, is that I have pics in my MUSIC lib, and *those* show up when I select photos. Very strange.

Is it a Vista issue? Everything else is pretty much the same connection wise (Linksys Wireless Gateway to the HR20).

Anyone?

Thanks!

Ihave the same problem and found a separate thread that pointed out a little problem in WMP11.

In short, when you open up WMP and look at ALL Pictures and notice that the pictures are NOT categorized by DATE then you will have this problem.

My solution, Select all and DELETE from LIBRARY only.... Make sure you choose LIBRARY only.

Once done, add the local directory back into the path and rescan. This fixed my problem.

Next issue I had was 17,000 photo's.

Solution, just build photo playlist, of which you keep the list below 200 and it works fine. I have one list at 500 and its still working. You must click on library in WMP and choose "apply media information changes" on each playlist update and the HR20's will pick it up fine.

Regards,

[KTrentLR]

I've verified my PC is not a Viiv PC.

I've followed the steps to turn on sharing inside Windows Media Player 11, but in the devices list I do not see an "unknown" device.

My HR20-100S is on the network and passes all self tests. It is connected to a wireless lan jack that uses the power lines. The LAN jack works fine for my Tivo and Laptop. And as I stated the HR20 passes the network test.

My D-Link router (DI-624) sees the HR20 and has issued it a valid IP address. I've even made the IP static in the router so the HR20 gets the same IP.

When I follow the documented steps to turn on sharing in Windows Media Player the step I get stuck at is: You'll see an "unknown" device. Select it and set it up.....

I do not see any "unknown" devices in the media player. The list remains blank and all three buttons below the blank list are disabled (Add/Delete/Edit).

Network is working fine as I'm able to share files between PCs and play games. As I stated, the HR20 displays as a device on the DHCP assignments in the router.

Receiver: HR20-100S
Receiver version: 0x1Be (had the exact same issue with 18e)

PC: Windows XP SP2
RAM: 2Gigs
Processer: Intel X6800 Dual Core 2.93
Video: Quad SLI - 2 nVidia 7950GXs
Network: Dlink DI-624 router, using Wirelss boxes to connect

P.S. On a side note, video on demand does nothing when I select it. Could the issues be related?

[lukep10]

I've verified my PC is not a Viiv PC.

I've followed the steps to turn on sharing inside Windows Media Player 11, but in the devices list I do not see an "unknown" device.

My HR20-100S is on the network and passes all self tests. It is connected to a wireless lan jack that uses the power lines. The LAN jack works fine for my Tivo and Laptop. And as I stated the HR20 passes the network test.

My D-Link router (DI-624) sees the HR20 and has issued it a valid IP address. I've even made the IP static in the router so the HR20 gets the same IP.

When I follow the documented steps to turn on sharing in Windows Media Player the step I get stuck at is: You'll see an "unknown" device. Select it and set it up.....

I do not see any "unknown" devices in the media player. The list remains blank and all three buttons below the blank list are disabled (Add/Delete/Edit).

Network is working fine as I'm able to share files between PCs and play games. As I stated, the HR20 displays as a device on the DHCP assignments in the router.

Receiver: HR20-100S
Receiver version: 0x1Be (had the exact same issue with 18e)

PC: Windows XP SP2
RAM: 2Gigs
Processer: Intel X6800 Dual Core 2.93
Video: Quad SLI - 2 nVidia 7950GXs
Network: Dlink DI-624 router, using Wirelss boxes to connect

P.S. On a side note, video on demand does nothing when I select it. Could the issues be related?

I still say it's a port issue on the router I'll come take a look saturday morning before we start on John's new floor.

[KTrentLR]

I still say it's a port issue on the router I'll come take a look saturday morning before we start on John's new floor.

I hope you're right! but since the PC and HR20 are both on the this side of the LAN, there isn't any port blocking, but maybe you'll see something I'm missing. Port blocking by default is only between WAN and LAN, and I've not changed any default filters.

I bought a 50' LAN cable last night connect the HR20 directly to the router to see if the wireless boxes were causing an issue, but haven't had a chance to try it. I also bought a new Linksys router to try.

I saw someone gave a TELNET command to try and I'll try that to see if the PC can hit the HR20.

I also followed the same WMP steps on another PC and got the same results: No "Unknown" device listed. Next I'll try those "twiny" server programs to see what they get.

[lukep10]

I hope you're right! but since the PC and HR20 are both on the this side of the LAN, there isn't any port blocking, but maybe you'll see something I'm missing. Port blocking by default is only between WAN and LAN, and I've not changed any default filters.

I bought a 50' LAN cable last night connect the HR20 directly to the router to see if the wireless boxes were causing an issue, but haven't had a chance to try it. I also bought a new Linksys router to try.

I saw someone gave a TELNET command to try and I'll try that to see if the PC can hit the HR20.

I also followed the same WMP steps on another PC and got the same results: No "Unknown" device listed. Next I'll try those "twiny" server programs to see what they get.

Sorry the Windows Firewall not the router my coffee hadn't kicked in yet this morning!

To share media to other devices using Windows Media Player 11, several firewall ports on your computer must be open. If you are using Windows Firewall, the required Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) and User Datagram Protocol (UDP) ports are automatically opened when you turn on media sharing. If you are using a different software firewall, you might need to open these ports manually.

The following table lists the host sharing firewall requirements for Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service version 3 with Windows XP.


Port Protocol Process** Direction
1900 UDP SSDP svchost.exe Inbound/Outbound
2869 TCP SSDP, UPnP svchost.exe Inbound
10280-10284 UDP WMDRM-ND reg wmpnetwk.exe Inbound/Outbound
10243 TCP HTTP wmpnetwk.exe Inbound

[McCoyRJ]

I'm having a different problem trying to update the ViiV software on my PC.

My PC (computer name XPS400) is operating with XP MCE SP2 and ViiV 1.0. Using my HR20-700, a Linksys WET200 ethernet bridge, and a Linksys WRT54G wireless router, I have been able to successfully access my PC's music and photo files using WMP11. When I press music and photos on the HR20 menu, it lists XPS400:WMP: under computer. I can then access files by date, genre, album, etc., with only a few lock up issues (I imagine due to the size of some files).

My problem started when I tried to update the ViiV software to version 1.5, which I obtained from the Directv website. With the software updated, the HR20 lists both the ViiV 1.5 media server (as XPS400) and WMP11 (as XPS400:WMP:) under computer. When I try to access the ViiV media server, I get the message unable to access media. When I try to access WMP11, everything works fine. I also receive the messages XPS400 server has connected to your network and the XPS400 server has logged off repeatedly. To stop the messages, I turn off the ViiV media server, but then I can not access my files through WMP11 anymore. When I check the ViiV settings, I can see the HR20 in the network, and I have given it authorization to access media files. I've rescanned my files in the ViiV media server library as well. Nothing seems to work to allow the HR20 access. To do away with the repeated messages from the ViiV server, I've since done a system restore on my PC in order to return to ViiV 1.0. Everything is working as it was before - I'm accessing my media files with WMP11.

Although I am able to access media files OK using WMP, I guess my questions are these:

a.) Are there, or will there be, any advantages to using the ViiV 1.5 media server instead of what I'm doing now (i.e., ViiV 1.0 and WMP11)?

b.) If so, what am I not doing in order to gain access to the ViiV 1.5 media server library?

[KTrentLR]

Port Protocol Process** Direction
1900 UDP SSDP svchost.exe Inbound/Outbound
2869 TCP SSDP, UPnP svchost.exe Inbound
10280-10284 UDP WMDRM-ND reg wmpnetwk.exe Inbound/Outbound
10243 TCP HTTP wmpnetwk.exe Inbound

I verified all these ports are open in the Windows firewall.

Honestly, I don't care about media share; I have a laptop connected behinde the TV. What I want more over media share is VOD (which is for another post).

So, I'm giving up on Media Share.

[jash]

has anyone been able to watch a google or youtube video on their hr20 yet?

[bhelton71]

has anyone been able to watch a google or youtube video on their hr20 yet?

Not with the Viiv software - I don't think there is a way to add an URL ?

[jash]

that's a shame. the content online seems to get better every week, especially some of the speakers at the google campus. i hate watching that stuff on my mac/pc.

[zamzickles]

jash..
I've got a Win2K machine running latest Tversity. I haven't mastered all the tags..etc, but I get YouTube and can play mpg, VOBs but I usually have to remaster them with a single audio stream since HR20 doesn'y allow for changing to a working stream when there are multiples.

[jash]

jash..
I've got a Win2K machine running latest Tversity. I haven't mastered all the tags..etc, but I get YouTube and can play mpg, VOBs but I usually have to remaster them with a single audio stream since HR20 doesn'y allow for changing to a working stream when there are multiples.

that sounds so painful!

i guess all the hr20 really needs is a web browser, like the webtv platform had, circa 1998, doh!

[jash]

that sounds so painful!

i guess all the hr20 really needs is a web browser, like the webtv platform had, circa 1998, doh!

i got a sample mpeg2 video to play on my hr20 last night that i found on the web. the latest release of the hr20 software supports mpeg2 video's now. nothing else as far as i can tell. you have to put the video in your sample videos folder for wmp and give it a few minutes to refresh on your hr20 screen.

[freshone]

i got a sample mpeg2 video to play on my hr20 last night that i found on the web. the latest release of the hr20 software supports mpeg2 video's now. nothing else as far as i can tell. you have to put the video in your sample videos folder for wmp and give it a few minutes to refresh on your hr20 screen.

Whaaaaaaaaa? :eek2:

All I wanna do is play my home movies...they are AVI but I suppose I could convert them to MPEG2.

You sure this works?

[jash]

Whaaaaaaaaa? :eek2:

All I wanna do is play my home movies...they are AVI but I suppose I could convert them to MPEG2.

You sure this works?

yes it worked with content from this site:

http://www.leadcodecs.com/Download/MPEG-Videos.htm

i tried to do it with mpeg4 videos off the web (very hard to find) but that didn't work. i'm not sure if was because they were in quicktime format. it was late and i gave up.

[Sixto]

Do we care about ViiV anymore for the HR2x?

Seems like Intel is phasing it out ...

The reason I ask is that I am about to do a few upgrades. Motherboard & Processor. Was going to just do memory but it's more economical to do motherboard/processor swap.

So I went to the Intel site and there were very few motherboards listed that support ViiV, and no recent motherboards.

Should I care?

Figured that if I was going through this exercise that I might as well get the best motherboard for the HR2x, but that's not been easy to figure out with so little ViiV motherboards.

[Sixto]

A little more info ...

I went to the following Intel site: http://mbsg.intel.com/mbsg/

Selected Intel, ATX, and ViiV ... of the hundreds of motherboards, 2 were listed.

And both were old, from 2006.

Not good. I want the best motherboard for the HR2x.

[reber1b]

jash..
I've got a Win2K machine running latest Tversity. I haven't mastered all the tags..etc, but I get YouTube and can play mpg, VOBs but I usually have to remaster them with a single audio stream since HR20 doesn'y allow for changing to a working stream when there are multiples.

zamzickles, in reading your post, I finally see a reference to W2K, which I am running. A quick question to help me decide whether to pursue this further or quit now. Is it possible to share media (jpg's & mp3's) from a non-ViiV machine running W2K, to an HR20?

[freshone]

Hey Jash....there was an update Friday night...nicer UI it said..fonts...whatever BUT, I was tooling around in Music and Photos when I noticed that the Video URLs had a Camera next to them instead of that big X! So, I go into the Tversity Video feeds..sure enough, I was able to play them! Now, I don't know if this was allowed before of not, but I had NEVER seen any video. I am in the process of copying over ALL my Videos from my PC's to the NAS box....I shoulda just tried to play one but it was late last night and...so, I take it that videos are now able to play?

Anyone?

Answered my own question, from the HR20-100 National Release....

---> Mediashare Video Support: You can now access video files from your PC. <----

This is big! I think they had to end up doing that, DRM, MPAA or not......

[AlbertZeroK]

Yes, some videos will play, there are problems with audio and you're best bet for getting video working is to use tversity. I've been playing with it this weekend and have video working with not audio from MPEG2 files from my DTivo.

[freshone]

Yep, exactly what I am using...have been for a long time. Even got it to work on the Kid's Wii..nice stuff...

I also found THIS which will be a necessity!

http://www.slipperybrick.com/2008/01/linksys-wga600n-gaming-adapter/

[kymikes]

OK, I have crawled through a bunch of the Media Sharing threads. Although I have seen several occurances of this problem but no solutions. I have a PC running Vista Home Premium, current version of Media Player 11 on a wired network, & HR21-700. Three CE releases ago, Media Share was working. It was a little rough in that video playback, music playback were a bit jerky & would hang. With the next CE up and including the NR, it stopped working. I couldn't get the HR21 to show up as an available device. I made some other network changes and now I can get the HR21 to show up as a device most of the time but once I get into the Media Sharing dialog, it will not allow me to authorize the device. The Deny option is live but the authorize option is greyed out.
The changes that I made were:


changed the router setup to LAN TO LAN
changed all the devices to be on the same subnet within 192.168.1.x
changed all IP addresses to be manually (fixed) assignment

The IP address for the HR21 is 192.168.1.15. Media player works fine within all the other networked PC's including pictures, music and movies. It works playing back from 4 different PC's in the same network. I checked in the settings with the router and assured the UPnP was turned on. Network discovery is enabled on the Vista machine. The router at the DSL modem is a LINKSYS BEFSR41 and the other router is a WRT54G (wireless - at one point in time before I got the HR21, I needed to have (or thought I did) to have a separate subnet). The network and internet connection shows fully functional from the HR21 and DOD works fine.

What am I missing??
Any thoughts?? Thanks.

Edit: worked on this a bit more and see that "allow" is greyed out if it is already allowed. When I clicked "Deny" and then come back and select the HR21 device, then "allow" is enabled so it appears that I can go through the process with apparent success but when I "play" audio, image or movie, it only plays on the PC device and nothing is played on the HR21. As far as I can tell, file type doesn't seem to have any effect.
Edit: What an amazing function - after continuing back through a couple of the more recent threads (without doing anything that I am aware of) the Music, Photos & More showed up on the Menu (no reboots, etc.). Don't have a clue (but I am betting it will disappear in the same manner). I did notice that there is a rather odd characteristic. I was listening to some music and viewing some picture (have to figure out how the pictures are "sized" - looks like pixel for pixel without any "sizing") however the "odd" situation is that Media sharing doesn't know when/how to stop. When I tried to switch back to regular TV, the audio from the normal satellite was gone. Tried several things to "reset" the audio but to no avail. I was about to reset the receiver when I thought to try the network setup/test. Sure enough, this "reset" the video/audio stream w/o a full receiver reset. Anyone know why??

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I think there is a problem with the HR2x, I have a HR20-100S and HR21-100 one is silver the other black, and before they did the update (LOL) so i can get the new signals everything worked great except for video always failed. NOW i get the pc's log off and on all the time, even tho pc to pc works great always there and sharing, and if i do get it when it shows on the HR20 menu, and try to play music or photos, it will start then say it can not find the media and locks up for a while.. before returning the menu . I think they broke media sharing and really dont care if we have the feature working. I believe it is a tease to us, so we think we are going to get a long TiVo capability, and not have us leave DircTV. But I do know they have had plenty of time to make it work and will not do it.