Networking Your HD-DVR+

[Milominderbinder2]

By networking your HD DVR+, you can play music, photos, & videos from your PC:
Media Share (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P4310202) (Your PC does not have to be a Viiv PC)

You can then use DIRECTV on Demand to download movies and programs to your HD DVR?
DoD Overview (http://www.directv.com/dod/dod.html) ● DoD FAQ (http://www.directv.com/dod/faq.html) (Again, your PC does not have to be a Viiv PC)

This is a great place to start whether you have a Viiv PC or not:
DirecTV / Viiv Quick Start Guide (http://forums.directv.com/pe/RepositoryFileDownloadServlet/10180530/DIRECTV_ViiV_Final_SM.pdf)

Next, click on the HR20-Networking-Tips-Tricks.pdf link below to get started.

Also see Earl's excellent ViiV Documentation (Also applies to non-Viiv pC's!):
HR20: Networking and ViiV (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72947)

More help:
If you want to try TVersity instead of WMP11... (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=75287)

If you want to try Twonky instead of WMP11... (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=73279)

Using Routers, Bridges, and other Advanced Techniques (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=99327)

HR20 Media Sharing; WMP11 How-To (Consolidated) (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=114861)

Note: HD Access must be enabled to have DIRECTV on Demand (VOD).

- Craig

Previous versions:
1.1 adds more detailed instructions.
1.0 6,722 dounloads.

[moonman]

Can't you just run a ethernet cable between the hr20-700 & your computer
w/o using a wireless network? It looks to me like this is just a simple file sharing thing. Why do you have to connect to Directv's routers? Is it because
of a Viiv thing?

[brewer4]

Can't you just run a ethernet cable between the hr20-700 & your computer
w/o using a wireless network? It looks to me like this is just a simple file sharing thing. Why do you have to connect to Directv's routers? Is it because
of a Viiv thing?

It doesnt have to be wireless but a router helps (any router will do). It gives out IP addresses to the boxes and tells each other how to get ahold of the other. So I guess you could use a CROSSOVER cable and have the 2 talk to each other. A Crossover looks like a regular network cable but the wires are flipped since the communication is going from PC to PC. You would then have to manually type in the IP address and DNS server. So its possible to do, but just get a $20 router, use ethernet wires and save yourself the pain.

[dwenn]

Can't you just run a ethernet cable between the hr20-700 & your computer
w/o using a wireless network? It looks to me like this is just a simple file sharing thing. Why do you have to connect to Directv's routers? Is it because
of a Viiv thing?

My PC and the HR20 are connected via a 25' Cat 5E cable directly.
Only saw each other with 108 but everything kicked in just fine with the 10b software.

[moonman]

My PC and the HR20 are connected via a 25' Cat 5E cable directly.
Only saw each other with 108 but everything kicked in just fine with the 10b software.
-----------
I am interested in trying this...I assume you are using WMP11 as a agent?
Could you describe in detail what steps you used to connect? Any problems
yet(slo/no responce etc). Thanks! (I also could use my son's game adapter a Linksys WGA-54G)
if needed

[Rambler]

but just get a $20 router, use ethernet wires and save yourself the pain.
If my PC wasn't more than 100' away and upstairs (or my house was ethernet wired), then this would definately be the way to go. So I'm to having to painfully go the wireless ethernet adapter route, and hopefully will get it going this way.

[tjdevaul]

I have both connected(wired) to my WRT54G Router. The router can see both but they can't see each other. What am I missing?

[dwenn]

-----------
I am interested in trying this...I assume you are using WMP11 as a agent?
Could you describe in detail what steps you used to connect? Any problems
yet(slo/no responce etc). Thanks! (I also could use my son's game adapter a Linksys WGA-54G)
if needed

Moonman- Yes WMP11 also running XP Pro.
Details on connection - Cat 5E network cable one end into port on HR20 one into port on PC.
In my case I have units in separate sides of large family room and drilled holes in two corners and ran wire under the floor. Yes wireless may work but I had no concerns about the holes. a 25ft cable can be had on-line for under $10 but will cost you more in most retail stores.

When I first connected under software 108 the PC saw the HR20 as a networked device but WMP11 did not. I could hit the internet connection with the HR20.

So honestly I was about to become quite frustrated. In WMP11 you may need to go to the Library tab -you get the drop down options and select media sharing. In 108 I couldn't get this to see the HR-20. I told it to auto share with any new connections.

After 10b software came down I happened to hit menu and there was Photos & Music right under My Playlist. Selected it and it basically takes you through a wizard hook up. Real quick and simple. Now when I look at WMP11 Media Sharing Options it does see the HR20 as an unknown device. So I presume 10b had something to do with that. so as long as you have 10b which you should this should work now.

Also as a note indeed I do not have VIIV or VIsta. Many have suggested a NAS if your computer is off but ours is basically always on.

Good luck.

I have been meaning to post a general review of the entire feature but don't have time now. In general like much of the box it is great while it works but could use some user tips for future changes.

[Ismert]

[QUOTE=Milominderbinder2;767858]Attached below are step-by-step instructions for networking your HR20 with a non-Viiv PC.

I have my HR20 network to a Windows XP with Media Player V11. All shares setup. HR20 sees the PC and shared Folders I am able to play 3 x MP3s and it disconnects, 5 minutes later HR20 will see my PC and again can only play 3 MP3s again just to get disconnected, I have tried various MP3s using shuffle, playlist folders but no matter what I can only play 3.

Anybody have any ideas on what is causing this problem?

[moonman]

Moonman- Yes WMP11 also running XP Pro.
Details on connection - Cat 5E network cable one end into port on HR20 one into port on PC.


Thanks a whole bunch....my computer is only 15 ft. from the HR-20, so I will
not have to drill any holes!:D ..Thanks for the help!!

[bbqdewd]

I hooked up on Thursday, 2 days ago, was working fine for photos and music, but I didn't try but 2 Songs, I did view about 30 pictures. I actually setup WMP11 on 2 systems, and could see both on the HR20. WMP11 is running on both of my computers (WinXP on both, no Media Center) HR20 is hardwired to the switch. Today I don't have the menu on the HR20 at all any more, went through setup again, sees everything fine, but no option on the menu. Did a RBR, took it through setup again, and whammo, it's back. Amazing!

[TDLA]

Aside from the Linksys WRT54G/WRT54AG wireless adapters listed above, are there other wireless options that I can also investigate that will also work?

[ymmv51]

I tried the D-Link DWL-G820 (really good price at buy.com, using google checkout), and was able to get our HR20 to see both our computers on the first try. I followed the directions in the HR20 Networking-Tips-Tricks pdf (thanks to all who contributed) running Media Player 11 and set up sharing. Even learned that it is not necessary to have Media Player 11 running once sharing is enabled, the HR20 can connect with the computers anyway.

I set up a playlist of Christmas music and prior years' Christmas photos and had both going when my wife came in, and sat and watched for about an hour. Even with the limited controls currently available, this is great!:D

I just tried and was successful in connecting to both the computers on my home wireless network, the laptop which is a wireless connection is supplying photos and the desktop with the ethernet connection to the Netgear wireless router/access point is supplying music. Never expected this to work.

ymmv51

[dezufnoC]

[QUOTE=Milominderbinder2;767858]Attached below are step-by-step instructions for networking your HR20 with a non-Viiv PC.

I have my HR20 network to a Windows XP with Media Player V11. All shares setup. HR20 sees the PC and shared Folders I am able to play 3 x MP3s and it disconnects, 5 minutes later HR20 will see my PC and again can only play 3 MP3s again just to get disconnected, I have tried various MP3s using shuffle, playlist folders but no matter what I can only play 3.

Anybody have any ideas on what is causing this problem?



I noticed this same thing when I played some songs on here. I even created a playlist and also skipped a song or two in my play list. One thing I noted was that as the 3rd song was playing a note appeared on my screen that said "The server "name of my pc" has logged off." and gave me the option to say OK. I did nothing and sure enough the music was disconnected and I was back to watching and listening to the channel D8 was on.

[dvrblogger]

If my PC wasn't more than 100' away and upstairs (or my house was ethernet wired), then this would definately be the way to go. So I'm to having to painfully go the wireless ethernet adapter route, and hopefully will get it going this way.

Why dont you try powerline adapters. They cost from 70$-100$ and may work well depending on how your home is wired. Just try to avoid powerstrips and plug them in to the wall outlet or a strip with no "surege protectors" (these tend to filter the signal riding over the power lines).

[brianxmurray]

Has anyone tried streaming video to the HR-20? I have a collection of AVI files I would like to stream.

[Rambler]

Has anyone tried streaming video to the HR-20? I have a collection of AVI files I would like to stream.
Video streaming is not operation on the HR20 (at this point anyways) from what I hear from those who've tried.

[digideals]

I'm frustrated and perhaps y'all can help. I've got Vista Ultimate and cannot get my Media Sharing to recognize the HR20. It appears in my local network, even reports that it is a media device. But, I cannot get access to the HR20 media sharing menu.

On the HR20 - it shows that it is connected to the Internet. On my Xbox 360 I can view all the media. However, when adding the Extender feature on the 360, the process fails as it "cannot configure extender settings". But, I am able to view the media non-the-less.

What am I missing? I've started all the media services in admin tools, I've reset the computer and the HR20 countless of times. I'm not using a software firewall - there has to be something simple I'm overlooking - what could it be?

Thanks for your thoughts / suggestions.

[Rambler]

Have you tried WMP11 or Twonky?

[tbh999]

Has anyone tried streaming from a NAS? I have an 1.6T Infrant Ready NAS NV+ that I use specifically for streaming audio files. It has numerous services that can be turned on (iTunes Streaming Server, Slimserver, Home Media Streaming Server, and UPnP AV) But it is not Intel based, therefore no ViiV.

[digideals]

I have WMP 11 but don't know where the DVR would be. Twonky? I have not tried that. I can't imagine a program with the name of Twonky would be my secret!

Any other insight into this twonky?

[Slump Buster]

I have WMP 11 but don't know where the DVR would be. Twonky? I have not tried that. I can't imagine a program with the name of Twonky would be my secret!

Any other insight into this twonky?

There's plenty of info on Twonky in this forum. In a nutshell, it is MUCH easier to set up that any of the Windows media garbage. It is an easy download and install from their site, but the trial is only a month. I've used it for all of my wireless music devices in the house.

[wyatt9696]

I recently set up the network for the hr20. i wired the pc to the hr20 directly through my router(no game adapter) the hr20 sees all my pictures and displays them, it will not see or play music files associated with wmp11. it see's the folders and playlists, but i can't open them or play music. any help would be appreciated. sharing was configured on wmp11

[dtvrillo]

I hooked up on Thursday, 2 days ago, was working fine for photos and music, but I didn't try but 2 Songs, I did view about 30 pictures. I actually setup WMP11 on 2 systems, and could see both on the HR20. WMP11 is running on both of my computers (WinXP on both, no Media Center) HR20 is hardwired to the switch. Today I don't have the menu on the HR20 at all any more, went through setup again, sees everything fine, but no option on the menu. Did a RBR, took it through setup again, and whammo, it's back. Amazing!

I have multiple computers but i can only get the HR20 to see one of them, any hints???

[Cleophus]

Umm, no it isn't. The windows media setup is easy. Install MC extender, the HR20 shows as a device, allow access and edit the shared folder access to include the HR20.

Pretty simple stuff. Took me 2 minutes, tops.

[Steveknj]

Well I hope all of this is more useful than just showing photos and streaming MP3s. For me, it's just as simple, if not simpler to just simply run RCA cables from my ipod or computer to my HT Receiver and stream all the video/music/pictures I have on there without having to go through all of this setup. I'll try setting it up once my puter is hooked back up after my renovation, because the geeky side of me wants to try it, but, considering all the bugs in the HR20, this seems like a VERY low priority thing to add to my HR20 and instead those same resources could be used for fixing the BSB, dual buffers, autorecord and whatever DVR functional problems are out there.

[leww37334]

I networked my pc to the HR-20/700S through an ethernet crossover cable and used "my network places" to bridge my wireless network and this new "network", the Hr-20 successfully connected with the network and even the internet.

but I am still having a problem, I use TVersity for sharing, I can see all the folders and even file names for JPEG and MP3 files on the HR-20. But I cannot play any of them, they all have x's beside them. Any ideas on what I should try?

[Rambler]

but I am still having a problem, I use TVersity for sharing, I can see all the folders and even file names for JPEG and MP3 files on the HR-20. But I cannot play any of them, they all have x's beside them. Any ideas on what I should try?
WMP11 or Twonky, but I've only been able to get Twonky to work so far.

[leww37334]

WMP11 or Twonky, but I've only been able to get Twonky to work so far.


thanks, I made it work, I had tried WMP 11 previously, but it didn't show a media sharing tab. I downloaded latest WMP 11 update, media sharing now works, I canned TVersity and it works like a charm now. maybe your WMP 11 problem may be the same needs an update issue. Also in trolling the web I found that there was an issue with Norton Internet security firewall and WMP 11

[Blues1183]

I've got the HR20 on my network (my router shows it by name as an attached device), but it doesn't show up in WMP11 "share media to" list. I thought it might be a firewall issue so I turned my software firewall (Zone Alarm) off, but still no luck. Anyone with any suggestions?

[Blues1183]

Well it showed up. At some point I noticed an icon on the system tray saying the WMP found the "unknown device" when I clicked on it, it showed the share to list and everything looked good. Music and Photos showed up on my HR20 menu so I thought I was there but the only thing it lists is the computer name and the share name from WMP. When I select the computer it thinks about it for 20 secs or so and then does do anything else.

[WERA689]

I've got the HR20 on my network (my router shows it by name as an attached device), but it doesn't show up in WMP11 "share media to" list.

I have the same issue....WMP11, the only device showing available to share is the Xbox360. Also, the HR20 has not put up the "music and video" tab on the menu. HR20 shows the network and internet connected, the HR shows in the router software, but I can't get either my laptop or my desktop to see the HR as a media device.
Could this be because I am running XP SP2 and not media center? Also running Athlon processors, rather than Intel.
I probably wont use these features often, as I'll probably use the Xbox more often...I just hate it when I can't get stuff to work! Will I have to use Twonky or Tversity to make the HR 'visible' to computers?

[O2BRich]

I recently set up the network for the hr20. i wired the pc to the hr20 directly through my router(no game adapter) the hr20 sees all my pictures and displays them, it will not see or play music files associated with wmp11. it see's the folders and playlists, but i can't open them or play music. any help would be appreciated. sharing was configured on wmp11

In WMP click on Library, then add to library, then advanced. Click ok then WMP should search your PC for all media files and add them to your library. If this does not work add a new folder. Once this is complete you should be able to see them on the HR20

[Rambler]

Will I have to use Twonky or Tversity to make the HR 'visible' to computers?
So far Twonky has been the only thing that works for me, so give it a shot.

[sequoiadean]

It literally took me 5 minutes to get this working, once I had it working for my Xbox 360. My 360 couldn't see the PC, although the PC could see the 360. Turns out it was a corrupted DRM system on my computer, after I cleared that up (by removing the contents of the hidden DRM system folder), it worked fine. This can be confirmed by checking the System event log, and see if there are any errors from the WMP service (I forget exact name of service right now).

I'm using a hard-wired connection, through a switch to my 2Wire DSL modem/router. As soon as I connected my HR20 to the switch, and turned on networking, I could see it in WMP11.

[Rambler]

Turns out it was a corrupted DRM system on my computer, after I cleared that up (by removing the contents of the hidden DRM system folder), it worked fine.
Exactly where is this hidden DRM system folder - could you specify the folder structure to get to it?

I'm using a hard-wired connection, through a switch to my 2Wire DSL modem/router.
I've basically got the same setup as you - 2Wire box, and hardwired through a powerline ethernet adapter and a XP MCE PC.

[wyatt9696]

In WMP click on Library, then add to library, then advanced. Click ok then WMP should search your PC for all media files and add them to your library. If this does not work add a new folder. Once this is complete you should be able to see them on the HR20

thanks for this. HR20 now see's and plays all mp3s and pics. i didn't think this feature was any big deal, but it's actually pretty sweet. my wife sat down with me and watched a slideshow of all our jpegs. it was like looking through a photo album. good quality time. :)

[O2BRich]

thanks for this. HR20 now see's and plays all mp3s and pics. i didn't think this feature was any big deal, but it's actually pretty sweet. my wife sat down with me and watched a slideshow of all our jpegs. it was like looking through a photo album. good quality time. :)

I did the exact same thing with my wife after set up. Listened to MP3's at the same time. Then she understood what the effort was for. :)

[politzer]

Attached below are step-by-step instructions for networking your HR20 with a non-Viiv PC.

If you have a Viiv PC, please see these links:
DirecTV / Viiv Quick Start Guide (http://forums.directv.com/pe/RepositoryFileDownloadServlet/10180530/DIRECTV_ViiV_Final_SM.pdf)

Also see Earl's excellent ViiV Documentation (that applies here too!):
HR20: Networking and ViiV (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72947)

Other Tips & Tricks links are below.

As always, thank you to Earl for providing such a wealth of information and Chris Blount, the foudner of DBSTalk.com.

- Craig

The Linksys that you refer to is unavailable, so I'm thinking of trying the G only model, WGA54G, which is about $15 more. Any issues with that? It's still 802.11b and wireless. Should the same configuration procedures likely work?

Thanxs

[magellanmtb]

tried wp11 but for some reason when I went to tools-options-library...nothing appeared in the shared window. Any thoughts. I know things are connected because twonkymedia works (except for the fact that all the songs play slowwwwww, but it can see all the itunes files.

[politzer]

So, I've got the Linksys configured, I think...with IP of 192.168.1.250 and submask of 255.255.255.0, which were the defaults that were on the adapter.

Went to the HR 20 after connecting the Linksys and attempted to get a network connection, but it's not. The IP on the HR 20 is different...went to advanced and attempted to change both the IP and the submask, it would let me but the connect to network command grayed out... only restore default option available.

So any advice? The HR 20 just not seeing my network.

[Rambler]

So, I've got the Linksys configured, I think...with IP of 192.168.1.250 and submask of 255.255.255.0, which were the defaults that were on the adapter.

Went to the HR 20 after connecting the Linksys and attempted to get a network connection, but it's not. The IP on the HR 20 is different...went to advanced and attempted to change both the IP and the submask, it would let me but the connect to network command grayed out... only restore default option available.

So any advice? The HR 20 just not seeing my network.
I tried 2 wireless ethernet adapters and it was just quirky. I ended up using the powerline ethernet adapter, which essentially works like a hardwired solution. Here's what I got that works very well:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdapters/XE104G.aspx

Give this a shot if you can't get the wireless adapters going.

Ron

[sequoiadean]

Exactly where is this hidden DRM system folder - could you specify the folder structure to get to it?


I've basically got the same setup as you - 2Wire box, and hardwired through a powerline ethernet adapter and a XP MCE PC.


Useful thread to check out:

http://forums.xbox.com/9368448/ShowPost.aspx

Delete DRM folder from C:\documents and settings\All Users. This is a sytem folder that is hidden by default. You will need to unhide it. Xbox willl recreate the folder once connected.

[Rambler]

Delete DRM folder from C:\documents and settings\All Users. This is a sytem folder that is hidden by default. You will need to unhide it. Xbox willl recreate the folder once connected.
Actually, I don't have an Xbox but wondered if this solution might fix the issue of the HR20 not showing up under WMP11?

[sequoiadean]

Actually, I don't have an Xbox but wondered if this solution might fix the issue of the HR20 not showing up under WMP11?


My HR20 showed up in WMP 11 as soon as I did the networking setup on the HR20. But I would do the DRM cleanup first off, then check the system event log to see if there were any errors starting the WMP service. Go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event View, then choose System to view the log.

[djshawn]

Exactly what are the benefits of networking my HR20S?

[Rambler]

Exactly what are the benefits of networking my HR20S?
Right now - viewing photos and listening to music from your PC. Video will likely be added in the future.

[YankeeFan]

OK so I downloaded WMP 11 and installed it. I can see the HR20 as an "Unknown Device" but the "Allow" button is grayed out. The only option available is to "Deny". What am I doing wrong here?

[sequoiadean]

OK so I downloaded WMP 11 and installed it. I can see the HR20 as an "Unknown Device" but the "Allow" button is grayed out. The only option available is to "Deny". What am I doing wrong here?

And the "Share my media to" checkbox is checked?

[YankeeFan]

Yes it is

[mbailey]

OK so I downloaded WMP 11 and installed it. I can see the HR20 as an "Unknown Device" but the "Allow" button is grayed out. The only option available is to "Deny". What am I doing wrong here?

YankeeFan,

I believe you setup sharing to allow devices to share your media automatically.

Look under Options/Library/Configure Sharing - at the bottom of the page you should see the question: Allow new devices and computers automatically (not recommended). I belive you have this selected.

[YankeeFan]

YankeeFan,

I believe you setup sharing to allow devices to share your media automatically.

Look under Options/Library/Configure Sharing - at the bottom of the page you should see the question: Allow new devices and computers automatically (not recommended). I belive you have this selected.

That box is also unchecked :confused:

[Rambler]

Did you "click" the Unknown device (HR20) in the media devices? Once you do that, you should be able to "Allow" it.

[YankeeFan]

Did you "click" the Unknown device (HR20) in the media devices? Once you do that, you should be able to "Allow" it.

Yes, I clicked it...and the "Allow" button is still grayed out. I tried right-clicking it and the only options are to "Deny" it :confused:

[sequoiadean]

Yes it is

Hmmm, I really don't know. try selecting Deny and saving, see if you can allow after that?

[Woody_1]

I wanted to say thanks for your detailed directions on how to network the HR-20.
I followed the directions, and connected wired, with no problem at all. It was amazingly easy to do.

Not sure if I will go to the trouble to do a permanent wireless set up though. It almost seems like this is a solution without a problem, at least for me. The geek factor is cool though, and I enjoyed the experiment.

I did notice one odd behavior thought. When I was done playing around, and went to watch some recorded shows, the Directv screen saver came on aprox 10 mins into the recorded program. The show was still playing in the background, and a key press on the remote removed the screen saver.
It did this several times, before I called it a night. I didn't try a reboot or anything.
I'm sure that it will be OK, and may have been related to the way I stopped using the connection to the PC, by turning Zone Alarm back on.

I notice that several folks had a problem with only being able to play a couple of songs before the connection was lost. I didn't encounter that in the few hours I had the HR 20 on the network, but when I read those comments it made me wonder if the server PC was going into screensaver, or doing the automatic locking of the system after a period on non-use? Just an uneducated thought.

Anyway, thanks for all the great information in this forum!!

[Rambler]

I notice that several folks had a problem with only being able to play a couple of songs before the connection was lost. I didn't encounter that in the few hours I had the HR 20 on the network, but when I read those comments it made me wonder if the server PC was going into screensaver, or doing the automatic locking of the system after a period on non-use? Just an uneducated thought.
That's actually a very good thought. From the media servers I've been able to get working, it seems only Twonky won't lose the connection if the PC goes into screen saver mode.

[alexginga]

That's actually a very good thought. From the media servers I've been able to get working, it seems only Twonky won't lose the connection if the PC goes into screen saver mode.

You can disable screen saver mode by going here:

Desktop->[Right Click]->Properties->Screen Saver->Settings

Why don't you connect your HR20 directly to the computer's ethernet port?

You can then save all the music and photo files in the 'Shared Documents' folder, and enjoy it on your HR20!..

(The trick is that my PC Ethernet port is not in use otherwise, since I connect to the internet via wireless)...

Tell me I am not the only one who is doing it.. ;)

[dvrblogger]

[QUOTE=Milominderbinder2;767858]Attached below are step-by-step instructions for networking your HR20 with a non-Viiv PC.

I have my HR20 network to a Windows XP with Media Player V11. All shares setup. HR20 sees the PC and shared Folders I am able to play 3 x MP3s and it disconnects, 5 minutes later HR20 will see my PC and again can only play 3 MP3s again just to get disconnected, I have tried various MP3s using shuffle, playlist folders but no matter what I can only play 3.

Anybody have any ideas on what is causing this problem?

There were some reports of wmp11 disconnecting after a fixed time . One fix that I sw posted was torun photo slideshow at same time seemed to fix 1.problem

[dvrblogger]

That's actually a very good thought. From the media servers I've been able to get working, it seems only Twonky won't lose the connection if the PC goes into screen saver mode.

This is one area where VIIV pcs send a message toall device that they are going into stand bye and canbe waken up by HR20.

[dvrblogger]

I wanted to say thanks for your detailed directions on how to network the HR-20.
I followed the directions, and connected wired, with no problem at all. It was amazingly easy to do.

Not sure if I will go to the trouble to do a permanent wireless set up though. It almost seems like this is a solution without a problem, at least for me. The geek factor is cool though, and I enjoyed the experiment.

I did notice one odd behavior thought. When I was done playing around, and went to watch some recorded shows, the Directv screen saver came on aprox 10 mins into the recorded program. The show was still playing in the background, and a key press on the remote removed the screen saver.
It did this several times, before I called it a night. I didn't try a reboot or anything.
I'm sure that it will be OK, and may have been related to the way I stopped using the connection to the PC, by turning Zone Alarm back on.

I notice that several folks had a problem with only being able to play a couple of songs before the connection was lost. I didn't encounter that in the few hours I had the HR 20 on the network, but when I read those comments it made me wonder if the server PC was going into screensaver, or doing the automatic locking of the system after a period on non-use? Just an uneducated thought.

Anyway, thanks for all the great information in this forum!!
Another alternative to wireless is touse "powerline " adapters that use the powerline as Ethernet. It works great forme.

[triley51]

I did the exact same thing with my wife after set up. Listened to MP3's at the same time. Then she understood what the effort was for. :)

I had it working and then i moved my library of songsfrom an external usb drive to the my music folder on the PC. Took quite a while to get WMP11 to recognize them there. I had to delete some files in the mydocs/local/applications folder to get WMP11 to re-aquire the songs. The pics never stopped working. I have a music folder on the HR20 but it will not open now. Any suggestions?

[Spanky_Partain]

Check/Set permissions on the folders you moved them to.

[triley51]

Check/Set permissions on the folders you moved them to.

I moved them to the MyMusic folder where the few that worked previously, resided. This is where WMP11 monitors new additions. I have many new subfolders in there, are you saying to check the permissions on them?

[Lightsluvr]

I wish I could figure a simple way to use my (animated aquarium) PC screen saver through the HR20.

LL

[jdeitchler]

Anyone know when the HR20 will be able to support video clips? I can view \ listen to photos \ music.

[Bigdogoh]

Does anyone know if there is a file size limitation for WMP11 and the HR 20? I have about 3,000 mp3's in the library, and HR20 refuses to recognize that any files are there. It sees, my photos just fine (haven't counted but maybe a couple of hundred). When I back off the number of music files in the library, it will see them and display the usual choices for genre, artist, album, etc. I have only tried it with a handful (maybe 10 or so) and have not extensively tested yet to see what the cutoff is. Thanks.

[Bigdogoh]

I had it working and then i moved my library of songsfrom an external usb drive to the my music folder on the PC. Took quite a while to get WMP11 to recognize them there. I had to delete some files in the mydocs/local/applications folder to get WMP11 to re-aquire the songs. The pics never stopped working. I have a music folder on the HR20 but it will not open now. Any suggestions?

I have the same issue. It appears to be a limitation on the number of files that can be read. I backed my library down from 3,00+ to about 10 and it worked. I haven't yet discovered what the max is. Still testing that. Disappointing though that I can't access my complete library.

[srtpusher]

ok.. i must be going nuts.

here is what i have

windows xp wireless network connection
hr20 ( 0x11b) directly connected to my wireless router
media player 11

i get a success when i check the hr20 network connection but i cannot see it under my network places or workgroup computers. when i go to media player 11 under the library tab, there are no computers.

any hints as to why the hr20 is not showing up? i am gonna hardwire my laptop now and see if that helps...

gonna go nuts on this, i know it...

[Rambler]

i get a success when i check the hr20 network connection but i cannot see it under my network places or workgroup computers. when i go to media player 11 under the library tab, there are no computers.

any hints as to why the hr20 is not showing up?
Yeah, I had the same problem with WMP11 and hardwiring didn't help. Out of all the media servers available only Nero MediaHome and Twonky worked for me, but Twonky gives me the best results and performance.

[BriWill]

ok.. i must be going nuts.

here is what i have

windows xp wireless network connection
hr20 ( 0x11b) directly connected to my wireless router
media player 11

i get a success when i check the hr20 network connection but i cannot see it under my network places or workgroup computers. when i go to media player 11 under the library tab, there are no computers.

any hints as to why the hr20 is not showing up? i am gonna hardwire my laptop now and see if that helps...

gonna go nuts on this, i know it...

What hardware are you using for your wireless connection? I am using the Buffalo wireless ethernet bridge and had a very similar problem until I upgraded the firmware from 2.5 to 2.53...

One other thing, make sure the firewall on your XP box is configured to allow it to converse with the HR20. If you're using ZoneAlarm, you'll need to add the IP address assigned to the HR20 to the trusted zone.

[dj76116]

If it helps it worked fine here with music/pics last week BEFORE the x11b update. Problem might be in there. All I did then is plug the ethernet in and go. Running wireless and hardwire.

Is there a UDP/TCP port number for the HR20? all I put in are rejected.
all info for the device is the MAC address. Click Deny and allow shows up.

[srtpusher]

anyone running x11b that cannot network anymore?

[dj76116]

Here's a MP11 screen shot of what I get when I share the device.
http://www.vdoguy.com/Device.jpg
This may not even be it.

I even get a note on the TV that I have logged off it when I turn off the computer and have to hit OK.

[facmgr6569]

anyone running x11b that cannot network anymore?

when you say cannot network anymore do you mean the m&p tab disiapears? This same thing happens to me until I RBR then it is back for hours or a day or so then it just disappears again. I have not found the answer yet and have not heard many others with this same issue. :confused:

Hopfully if we have the same issue someone may be able to make a recomendation. I am not sure if it is the HR20 or something else on the network end.

[cs19]

ok.. i must be going nuts.

here is what i have

windows xp wireless network connection
hr20 ( 0x11b) directly connected to my wireless router
media player 11

i get a success when i check the hr20 network connection but i cannot see it under my network places or workgroup computers. when i go to media player 11 under the library tab, there are no computers.

any hints as to why the hr20 is not showing up? i am gonna hardwire my laptop now and see if that helps...

gonna go nuts on this, i know it...

Same problem here. Been going nuts about 3 days now.

HR20 running 0x11b. Following the PDF instructions at the beginning of this thread, I hooked up at D-Link DWL-G820 gaming adapter (after setting it up for my network internally) to my HR20. I ran the network setup through the HR20 and it confirmed that it was connected to both the "network" and the "internet." Looking at the advanced setup, I could see it had an IP assigned. I also checked out my router's UI and confirmed that it had authenticated and leased an IP to it. It even showed up in the router's log as something like "DirecTV HR-20" followed by more numbers and letters.

Next, I went to a desktop hardwired to the router that uses the XP firewall but nothing beyond that. I setup my music and pics folder to share to everyone on my network, no pw required. I then downloaded WMP 11 and imported my library into it. Going into the Share Media options, I checked the box to have it shared. Nothing showed up. No HR-20 or "unknown device" that I could "allow." I tried having the "allow other devices to automatically connect" box both checked and unchecked.

Next, I went to a second desktop, also hard-wired into the router. Same thing, same problem.

I went back to my HR-20 to confirm it was on the network. It says it is connected. My router says it is. No HR-20 or any unknown devices in "My network places" or "workgroup computers" or anything through Windows. Even with UPnP devices "showing" I still see nothing that could be the HR-20.

Realizing the directions said you should try re-installing WMP11 I did and still nothing.

I then tried on my wireless laptop (also running XP Pro -as were the two desktops) after downloading WMP 11 and still no luck. My laptop has
Symantec Client Firewall - and I specifically allowed the IP of the HR-20 and even tried disabling the firewall altogether. No luck.

I then tried Nero MediaHome on both my laptop and on one of the desktops. Again nothing.

I've tried countless combinations, with computer restarts, WMP 11 re-installs, firewall exceptions, firewalls turned off, HR-20 power-offs, unplugs and RBRs. No matter what I do, I cannot get the HR-20 to show up on any of the three computers as something available to share media with.

HELP! Any thoughts?

[Phil T]

I spent about an hour trying to get my HR20 to work with Media Player v11 with no luck.

The HR20 sees the router and the internet. The router sees the HR 20. I could not get HR 20 to show up in media sharing. Not a big loss because I don't have second Ethernet cable to hook up to the HR20. I have a Slingbox and don't want to run a second cable.

[dvrblogger]

I spent about an hour trying to get my HR20 to work with Media Player v11 with no luck.

The HR20 sees the router and the internet. The router sees the HR 20. I could not get HR 20 to show up in media sharing. Not a big loss because I don't have second Ethernet cable to hook up to the HR20. I have a Slingbox and don't want to run a second cable.
You could put a hub or swicth on the one etehrnet and use it for sling and HR20.

[dvrblogger]

I spent about an hour trying to get my HR20 to work with Media Player v11 with no luck.

The HR20 sees the router and the internet. The router sees the HR 20. I could not get HR 20 to show up in media sharing. Not a big loss because I don't have second Ethernet cable to hook up to the HR20. I have a Slingbox and don't want to run a second cable.
I have seen some troubleshooting advice in other threads.
1) make sure UPNP framework is emanled under control panel,administrative tools, services
2) unders windows firewall make sure UPNP framework is listed as an exception specifically ports 1900 UDP and 2869 TCP.
3) there are known problems with powerline adapters. with firmware versions earlier than 1.6 not passing SSDP (discovery packets) . If you download the latest firmware these work just fine.

[Rambler]

3) there are known problems with powerline adapters. with firmware versions earlier than 1.6 not passing SSDP (discovery packets) . If you download the latest firmware these work just fine.
Unfortunately, the firmware update for the Netgear XE104 Powerline adapter is not avilable online yet - you need to request it from support. I just received the 1.6 update from Netgear via email this morning, and will try it out this week.

[Phil T]

Success!! I played around a little more this morning. I think the problem was with my 2-wire 2700 modem. Once I clicked view the home network, access shared files under the HR20, Media player 11 immediately identified it as an unknown device. I was good to go from there.

The digital picture quality is actually very good. It took me a while to figure out how to navigate the pictures and music using the dvr controls, but I have it down now.

Now to figure out a permanent internet connection.

BTW, I am using a HP a1330n, AMD64 non-viiv PC.

[Tom M]

I'm trying to get my HR20 connected to my laptop and having little/no success so any help will be appreciated.

I've got wmp11 loaded on my laptop and it's connected via wireless to my WRT54G router and that works fine. I'm trying to connect the HR20 to the lan connection of the laptop via a crossover connection. Manually configuring things on the HR20 and the laptop I can get things to the point where the HR20 sees the network and the laptop sees a couple of packets but the HR20 never sees the Internet and the setup fails.

I've read the FAQ and multiple networking threads but still haven't come up with anything that works. Also, depending on my specific configuration the primary network connection will then switch to the lan, thus I lose the internet connection until I reboot the laptop.

Needless to say, at this point I'm both puzzled and frustrated!

[Spanky_Partain]

I'm trying to get my HR20 connected to my laptop and having little/no success so any help will be appreciated.

I've got wmp11 loaded on my laptop and it's connected via wireless to my WRT54G router and that works fine. I'm trying to connect the HR20 to the lan connection of the laptop via a crossover connection. Manually configuring things on the HR20 and the laptop I can get things to the point where the HR20 sees the network and the laptop sees a couple of packets but the HR20 never sees the Internet and the setup fails.

I've read the FAQ and multiple networking threads but still haven't come up with anything that works. Also, depending on my specific configuration the primary network connection will then switch to the lan, thus I lose the internet connection until I reboot the laptop.

Needless to say, at this point I'm both puzzled and frustrated!

Unless you set your Laptop up as a router to your WRT54G router, it will not work to the Internet. Not real sure you really want to do that. It would really make your lan connection useless for anything except getting HR20 to pass a ping test on the internet.

You don't need a crossover cable. The HR20 has an auto MDI/MDI-x ethernet port. But either kind of cable will work, X-over or straight.

You should see the pictures and mp3s on the laptop as long as you set the Laptop up to share the files using a media server service, like Twonky or WMP11. I never had any luck with WMP11. I use Twonky.

An internet connection is not needed for anything except to verify that it can get to the internet. There is no usable feature, today, by having an internet accessible HR20. It would not suprise me if something changed on the Internet connection in the future though.

[Tom M]

Unless you set your Laptop up as a router to your WRT54G router, it will not work to the Internet. Not real sure you really want to do that. It would really make your lan connection useless for anything except getting HR20 to pass a ping test on the internet.

You don't need a crossover cable. The HR20 has an auto MDI/MDI-x ethernet port. But either kind of cable will work, X-over or straight.

You should see the pictures and mp3s on the laptop as long as you set the Laptop up to share the files using a media server service, like Twonky or WMP11. I never had any luck with WMP11. I use Twonky.

An internet connection is not needed for anything except to verify that it can get to the internet. There is no usable feature, today, by having an internet accessible HR20. It would not suprise me if something changed on the Internet connection in the future though.OK, thanks.

After some more experimenting (and ignoring the Internet connection error) I finally have things recognized in WMP as an Unknown Device. I had to RBR the HR20 to get to that point so hopefully that's a one time thing.

Now that it's working I'm not sure how useful it will actually be in my case until video support is available.

[Slump Buster]

Any new thoughts on the old problem of the network cable either not allowing it to boot or causing a lockup when it was connected after boot? I've seen this since the beginning of the network capability, right up through 120.

[mtsz52784]

Ok a little help on this one please... i have the HR20 direct connected to my router (US Robotics 5462) and then i have WMP11 on my laptop and the pictures in "My Pitures" folder show up on the HR20 but when i choose to look at them it says "unable to access media" then flickers like it is trying to check the next picture. finally it will show a couple pictures... the pictures that it shows are pictures that i took with my camera phone and will not show the pictures that i have taken with the digital camera... they are all jpeg pictures, and i'm stuck i would like to see some of these pics? ANY HELP OUT THERE?? Thanks

[Spanky_Partain]

Ok a little help on this one please... i have the HR20 direct connected to my router (US Robotics 5462) and then i have WMP11 on my laptop and the pictures in "My Pitures" folder show up on the HR20 but when i choose to look at them it says "unable to access media" then flickers like it is trying to check the next picture. finally it will show a couple pictures... the pictures that it shows are pictures that i took with my camera phone and will not show the pictures that i have taken with the digital camera... they are all jpeg pictures, and i'm stuck i would like to see some of these pics? ANY HELP OUT THERE?? Thanks

Personally, I use twonky without any problems with high def pictures. Some people have reported it playing in a slow mode type sound on music, but I have not had the problem.

I never got WMP11 to work.

You can download twonky for a free thirty day trail.

[mtsz52784]

Personally, I use twonky without any problems with high def pictures. Some people have reported it playing in a slow mode type sound on music, but I have not had the problem.

I never got WMP11 to work.

You can download twonky for a free thirty day trail.

WMP11 works fine for me except for that problem... i have it down to something with WMP11 and not arranging dates with when they have been taken... if i'm in WMP11 the pictures that actually show up have dates above their separator but the pics that dont show up don't have a date above their separator.7327

[VLaslow]

[QUOTE=BriWill;806114]What hardware are you using for your wireless connection? I am using the Buffalo wireless ethernet bridge and had a very similar problem until I upgraded the firmware from 2.5 to 2.53...

I looked for a 2.53 update online, but only found 2.5 (which is already on my ethernet converter). Did you get the update directly from the Buffalo website?

[SacCheesehead]

OK...been trying to get the HR20 connected for the last 24 hours to no avail....

Setup:

Windows XP Home with WMP 11
Netgear wireless router
Lynksys wireless gaming bridge.

DHCP turned off.

Router: 192.168.0.1
PC: 192.168.0.2
Gaming Bridge: 198.168.0.250, MAC cloning disabled

Here are my settings for the HR20 (which I set through the Advanced tab)

IP: 192.168.0.13
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS: 68.87.76.178 (I have tried to set this as my router's IP as well, same results...)

I know the gaming adapter is working because I can run my SlingBox through it with no problems.

When I connect the HR20 to the gaming adapter and try to connect, the IP, Subnet, Gateway, and DNS tests all turn out "OK."

The Network and Internet tests, though turn out "Not Connected"

I thought it might be a firewall issue, but my firewall (McAfee) has all my home IPs allowed.

Any thoughts?

[SacCheesehead]

Nevermind....I am a victim of not one, but TWO bad cables...

ARRRGGHHH!!!!

Oh well....it would appear to be working now.

[mtsz52784]

I am using a US Robotics USR5462 wireless router... It is only wireless from the laptop to the router then there is an ethernet cable from the router to the HR20, again i can play music and some pictures but as you can see in the above picture some have no dates but they are all from the same camera but different days taken off the memory card.?

[dvrblogger]

OK...been trying to get the HR20 connected for the last 24 hours to no avail....

Setup:

Windows XP Home with WMP 11
Netgear wireless router
Lynksys wireless gaming bridge.

DHCP turned off.

Router: 192.168.0.1
PC: 192.168.0.2
Gaming Bridge: 198.168.0.250, MAC cloning disabled

Here are my settings for the HR20 (which I set through the Advanced tab)

IP: 192.168.0.13
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS: 68.87.76.178 (I have tried to set this as my router's IP as well, same results...)

I know the gaming adapter is working because I can run my SlingBox through it with no problems.

When I connect the HR20 to the gaming adapter and try to connect, the IP, Subnet, Gateway, and DNS tests all turn out "OK."

The Network and Internet tests, though turn out "Not Connected"

I thought it might be a firewall issue, but my firewall (McAfee) has all my home IPs allowed.

Any thoughts?

I saw a problem in one of the xbox forums that many wireless routers don't handle the discovery process correctly for UPNP (SSDP) or may need a firmware upgrade similar to the powerline adapters. Microsoft has an FAQ for WMP11 with a list of recommended routers.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/devices/wmconnect/faq.aspx

[jgrade]

I saw a problem in one of the xbox forums that many wireless routers don't handle the discovery process correctly for UPNP (SSDP) or may need a firmware upgrade similar to the powerline adapters. Microsoft has an FAQ for WMP11 with a list of recommended routers.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/devices/wmconnect/faq.aspx

Why cross post this? You have posted at least 4 times that I have found. Start a new thread if you think it is that important.

[slapshot1959]

OK...been trying to get the HR20 connected for the last 24 hours to no avail....

Setup:

Windows XP Home with WMP 11
Netgear wireless router
Lynksys wireless gaming bridge.

DHCP turned off.

Router: 192.168.0.1
PC: 192.168.0.2
Gaming Bridge: 198.168.0.250, MAC cloning disabled

Here are my settings for the HR20 (which I set through the Advanced tab)

IP: 192.168.0.13
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS: 68.87.76.178 (I have tried to set this as my router's IP as well, same results...)

I know the gaming adapter is working because I can run my SlingBox through it with no problems.

When I connect the HR20 to the gaming adapter and try to connect, the IP, Subnet, Gateway, and DNS tests all turn out "OK."

The Network and Internet tests, though turn out "Not Connected"

I thought it might be a firewall issue, but my firewall (McAfee) has all my home IPs allowed.

Any thoughts?

Not sure if this has been discussed before,but it could be your firewall. I also have (had) McAfee that wouldn't let one of my HR20's through. I have WMP11,two Hr20's,one in my office, and the other downstairs in my family room running off my main computer here in my office. The one in my office I had no problem with once I figured out how to set IP addresses,etc. Did the same with the one in the family room,could never get it to connect. Gave up on it.

The other day I was prompted to install the new McAfee SC'07,and when I was done,I could not get either of them! Fearing perhaps I got a bad file from McAfee or something I uninstalled and out of curiousity checked my HR20 and lo and behold they were both able to connect! So I reinstalled McAfee,now both of them were unavailable,even though they were showing up on both the router and McAfee's new network management page.
Spent 5 hours yesterday working with McAfee tech support in India:rolleyes: , and despite trying and changing numerous settings,it wasn't happening. Fed up,I uninstalled it,went with Norton and I'm good to go.

It was definetely something in the firewall settings,because I installed the suite of apps separetely (virus,privacy man.,firewall) with the same results. Could be some setting deep in my computer that unfortuantely I do not have the knowledge to dig for. Might be something to check out.

[jmagnus]

I have prior to release 0x12a been able to play music files through my network as well as display pictures and both simultaneously. Since 0x12a release and also with the CE 0130 which I loaded last night, I can only display pictures. When accessing music files with the HR20, an x appears to the left of each file displayed and will not play. I have current firmaware, have deleted and reloaded Twonky, even reformatted the HR20 but the problem persists. Anyone know if this is a bug in the latest releases or am I missing something. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Spanky_Partain]

I have prior to release 0x12a been able to play music files through my network as well as display pictures and both simultaneously. Since 0x12a release and also with the CE 0130 which I loaded last night, I can only display pictures. When accessing music files with the HR20, an x appears to the left of each file displayed and will not play. I have current firmaware, have deleted and reloaded Twonky, even reformatted the HR20 but the problem persists. Anyone know if this is a bug in the latest releases or am I missing something. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Please go to this thread to discuss this issue using the CE 130 version.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=79989

Please go to this thread to report issues using the CE 130 version.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80077

Thanks
Spanky

[Rambler]

I have prior to release 0x12a been able to play music files through my network as well as display pictures and both simultaneously. Since 0x12a release and also with the CE 0130 which I loaded last night, I can only display pictures.
Since 0x12a, I've lost Internet connectivity on the HR20 and Music and Photos no longer show up on the menu. I haven't tried 0x130.

[scurrah]

Since 0x12a, I've lost Internet connectivity on the HR20 and Music and Photos no longer show up on the menu. I haven't tried 0x130.

That happened to me too. I went and re-ran the network setup and the menu came back. I can get photo's and music (from a Windows Vista) just fine again.

[Rambler]

That happened to me too. I went and re-ran the network setup and the menu came back. I can get photo's and music (from a Windows Vista) just fine again.
I wish mine would come back. I've tried re-running network setup a few times and unplugging the powerline network adapter - to no avail. :( I'm running Twonky on WinXP MCE. Hopefully the next update or so will have it back again. :confused:

[Armathius]

VIIV makes me regret getting my AMD processor :(

[Earl Bonovich]

Here is a document that was forwarded to me.

It gets into some of the nitty-gritty on how WMP11 does it's file/media sharing

[leww37334]

I'm trying to get my HR20 connected to my laptop and having little/no success so any help will be appreciated.

I've got wmp11 loaded on my laptop and it's connected via wireless to my WRT54G router and that works fine. I'm trying to connect the HR20 to the lan connection of the laptop via a crossover connection. Manually configuring things on the HR20 and the laptop I can get things to the point where the HR20 sees the network and the laptop sees a couple of packets but the HR20 never sees the Internet and the setup fails.

I've read the FAQ and multiple networking threads but still haven't come up with anything that works. Also, depending on my specific configuration the primary network connection will then switch to the lan, thus I lose the internet connection until I reboot the laptop.

Needless to say, at this point I'm both puzzled and frustrated!

Try this go into network places and select your wireless adapter and your ethernet adapter connected to the HR-20 and right click and bridge them, worked for me.

[wyllys]

I've gotten both WMP11 and Twonky 4.1 to work with my HR20, but in both cases, the results were spotty. I'm thinking that the bugs are in the HR20 code at this point. Both systems seem to stop playing (or get screwed up) after just 3 songs (approximately 10 minutes). Sometimes it will say that the server logged out, other times it will say that it lost a connection and other times it wont say anything, but will do other bizarre things like keep playing one song but display info for a different one. Last night, it was playing a song and I couldn't get it to stop or switch back to regular TV mode, I had to do a red-button reset to get it back to normal.

The protocol that both Twonky and WMP are using is a standard, documented protocol. I believe the implementation in the HR20 code is broken or incomplete at this point. Hopefully it will be fixed in a future update.

I don't think "ViiV" would make much difference in this case, that is mostly a marketing term anyway, the underlying software and protocols are the same regardless of whether you have a little sticker from Intel that says "ViiV Inside!".

[lovswr]

I'm frustrated and perhaps y'all can help. I've got Vista Ultimate and cannot get my Media Sharing to recognize the HR20. It appears in my local network, even reports that it is a media device. But, I cannot get access to the HR20 media sharing menu.

On the HR20 - it shows that it is connected to the Internet. On my Xbox 360 I can view all the media. However, when adding the Extender feature on the 360, the process fails as it "cannot configure extender settings". But, I am able to view the media non-the-less.

What am I missing? I've started all the media services in admin tools, I've reset the computer and the HR20 countless of times. I'm not using a software firewall - there has to be something simple I'm overlooking - what could it be?

Thanks for your thoughts / suggestions.



Digi did you ever get this resolved? I don't have a HR20 yet, but I do have a 360 that works just fine on my network. I am wondering if the 360 & HR20 can coexaist peacefully on the same network segment.

I have a linksys wireless bridge adapter & am wondering if I could just get a small 5 port switch & plug both the 360 & the HR20 into it.

[rsblaski]

I have not had any problem making my ViiV PC using WMP 11 communicate with my hr20 through a hardwired router.
I have done a search and cannot find an answer to the following question:
Why are all of my photos squashed horizontally?
Is there any way to have them display properly?
They fill the (16x9) screen from top to bottom but are almost the same size horizontally, leaving black space on either side.
Is this a condition I have to live with?
I've checked the settings in the hr20 setup menu and I think I've got all of them correct.
I don't use this feature much, except when we have vistors, and although theses pictures make me look thinner, lol, I would really like to see the proper resolutions.
btw, these are high res photos taken with a Canon Rebel XT. (8.1 gig)

[cnb2606]

Hi,

I am networking HR20 to non-VIIV PC (XP Pro) via WMP11. I am able to stream pictures but cannot view my MP3s. Any suggestion on why MP3s are not showing up?

[Bigdogoh]

Hi,

I am networking HR20 to non-VIIV PC (XP Pro) via WMP11. I am able to stream pictures but cannot view my MP3s. Any suggestion on why MP3s are not showing up?

How many mp3's do you have? I have found that there seems to be a limit of around 2,000. Try removing the mp3's from your WMP11 library and then adding back only 100 or so and see if they show up. This has worked for me in the past. However if I get more than 2,000 then the HR20 refuses to list them.

[cnb2606]

I might have just 2000 of them. I will try to link a folder with about 100 and see what happens. Thank you!

[miggo]

My HR20 shows connected and my router shows the IP connected. When I go into media player 11 and click share, I get an hour glass for a second or 2 but then nothing populates the field.

Also, should I be able to ping the HR20 IP address? When I try I get 100% packet loss. Is that normal?

Newby .. I mean, Mike :)

[Moss]

I have a laptop and PC, both running Windows XP Home. I hardwired the HR20 to my router and it immediately got an IP address.

I followed the Networking Tips docs and advice but my WMP11 would not identify the HR20. I did turn off the IPSec Service as directed by Microsoft. After a reboot, nothing changed. Started getting frustrated.

So, I reset the HR20 and after it booted up it had access to the shared files on both my laptop and PC! I then went to the WMP Library setup on both devices and for the first time it displayed the "Unknown Device" to share files to.

So, it worked for me, but it seemed a Reset was needed for me.

Good luck to the rest of you.

[cabryant]

I have 4122 MP3's at the moment and add new ones as I buy new CDs... any word on when the 2000 file limit problem will be fixed?

i.e. I can view pictures just fine but music will not show the contents when files, folders, categories, artists, genres etc... are selected.

FIXED! I've installed TVersity as per the other thread and it works fine for all my music.

[pkcosgrove]

I have the same setup and I am having the same problem. Have you had any luck since your posting?

[audiovideoventure]

I have everything working and the pictures look good on my Plasm TV's. The one question I have is how do you do playlists, is it a function of WMP, and the second question is their a way to change the shuffle time on the pictures.

[Spanky_Partain]

I have everything working and the pictures look good on my Plasm TV's. The one question I have is how do you do playlists, is it a function of WMP,

Yes

and the second question is their a way to change the shuffle time on the pictures.

No

[Spanky_Partain]

My HR20 shows connected and my router shows the IP connected. When I go into media player 11 and click share, I get an hour glass for a second or 2 but then nothing populates the field.

Try this, compliments of Moss
I followed the Networking Tips docs and advice but my WMP11 would not identify the HR20. I did turn off the IPSec Service as directed by Microsoft. After a reboot, nothing changed. Started getting frustrated.

So, I reset the HR20 and after it booted up it had access to the shared files on both my laptop and PC! I then went to the WMP Library setup on both devices and for the first time it displayed the "Unknown Device" to share files to.

So, it worked for me, but it seemed a Reset was needed for me.

Good luck to the rest of you.

Also, should I be able to ping the HR20 IP address? When I try I get 100% packet loss. Is that normal?

Newby .. I mean, Mike :)

No, the HR20 does not respond to a ping. However, you can "telnet <ip address> 49152" this will produce a black hole until the telnet session times out. It will return some information from the HR20 insuring a connection.

[tladle]

My HR20 shows connected and my router shows the IP connected. When I go into media player 11 and click share, I get an hour glass for a second or 2 but then nothing populates the field.

I was able to see my media folders on my HR20 intermittently and then all of a sudden it completely disappeared. Now I'm experiencing the same problem as stated above. I've un-installed and re-installed WMP 11 twice with no results.

Anybody else having this problem or had this problem and fixed it???

[tladle]

Try this, compliments of Moss
I did turn off the IPSec Service as directed by Microsoft.

Can anybody tell me how to turn off IPSec Service?

[Vette1992]

Do I give up anthing by using WMP instead of Viiv?

Does Viiv give any additional features with the HR20 that WMP does not give?

Dwayne

[Woody_1]

I connected my second HR-20 today. It is a HR20-100 by the way.
My first one works fine with WM11.
The second one won't come up with "music/Pictures" in the play list.
It does show up on the network, but that's it.
In WM11, I had two devices in the list, long before I connected the second HR, and I don't know why. So I guess I'm looking for a third device.
Does anyone else have two HR's on the network working with WM11?
Any hints on what to do? I did a power down reboot. I assume that is the same as RBR.
Reset the router and switches on the network.
Thanks for your help!

[Michael D'Angelo]

I connected my second HR-20 today. It is a HR20-100 by the way.
My first one works fine with WM11.
The second one won't come up with "music/Pictures" in the play list.
It does show up on the network, but that's it.
In WM11, I had two devices in the list, long before I connected the second HR, and I don't know why. So I guess I'm looking for a third device.
Does anyone else have two HR's on the network working with WM11?
Any hints on what to do? I did a power down reboot. I assume that is the same as RBR.
Reset the router and switches on the network.
Thanks for your help!

If I remember right 0x12a which is the software version the 100 has was still before D* activated that feature.

[Spanky_Partain]

10b was the release for music and photos on the HR20 back in December. I would expect the 12a to have this feature and be enabled on the -100. The second port on the -100 is NOT enabled.

Here is the release thread...
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=73209

[Woody_1]

10b was the release for music and photos on the HR20 back in December. I would expect the 12a to have this feature and be enabled on the -100. The second port on the -100 is NOT enabled.

Here is the release thread...
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=73209

Thanks for the info on 12a. I looked, but couldn't find the software rev list.

I do have the network cable in port 1, FWIW.
Shows up on the network, just no pictures yet.

[jlancaster]

Wife uses Urge to dowload songs the problem is that the downloaded music will not play on the hr20 but everything else does...should I delete the drm stuff and see what happens?

Thanks in advance!

[mxd]

I have set up the HR20 networking and it shows network connected and internet connected. In WMP11, when I try to share media, nothing shows up in the share media with box. Also, in View Workgroup Computers, I do not see the DVR. Any suggestions?

[Spanky_Partain]

I have set up the HR20 networking and it shows network connected and internet connected. In WMP11, when I try to share media, nothing shows up in the share media with box. Also, in View Workgroup Computers, I do not see the DVR. Any suggestions?

I too had this exact problem. I never got WMP to work. However, I did load Twonky and it did work. Now I use Nero 7.

Try this, compliments of Moss
I followed the Networking Tips docs and advice but my WMP11 would not identify the HR20. I did turn off the IPSec Service as directed by Microsoft. After a reboot, nothing changed. Started getting frustrated.

So, I reset the HR20 and after it booted up it had access to the shared files on both my laptop and PC! I then went to the WMP Library setup on both devices and for the first time it displayed the "Unknown Device" to share files to.

So, it worked for me, but it seemed a Reset was needed for me.

More information...
I saw a problem in one of the xbox forums that many wireless routers don't handle the discovery process correctly for UPNP (SSDP) or may need a firmware upgrade similar to the powerline adapters. Microsoft has an FAQ for WMP11 with a list of recommended routers.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...nnect/faq.aspx

[Woody_1]

[QUOTE=Spanky_Partain;902214]I too had this exact problem. I never got WMP to work. However, I did load Twonky and it did work. Now I use Nero 7.
QUOTE]

I still can't "see" my new HR20-100 with WM11, or Nero 7.
First HR20-700 still fine.
Can I have more than one HR on my home network, and have it serve media?
The HR10-100 has an IP address on the network, and can be "seen" with other network tools.
Power down, reboot.
RBR
Still no HR20-100
Any more ideas?
Thanks!

[Spanky_Partain]

I still can't "see" my new HR20-100 with WM11, or Nero 7.
First HR20-700 still fine.
Can I have more than one HR on my home network, and have it serve media?
The HR10-100 has an IP address on the network, and can be "seen" with other network tools.
Power down, reboot.
RBR
Still no HR20-100
Any more ideas?
Thanks!

Unless it is plugged into Ethernet port 2 instead of Ethernet port 1, I am out of any more ideas...

I wish I had one of the -100's so I could help more!

[code4code5]

I have a Vista computer ethernet-ed to the HR20-100 and I'm able to get pictures to work just fine. It won't let me listen to music or watch video. (Video does show up on the menu, but it displays an "x" where the foler icons go.) When I try to select Music, it just stares at me and does nothing. I have about 40gb in mp3, could the library be too big?

[Woody_1]

Unless it is plugged into Ethernet port 2 instead of Ethernet port 1, I am out of any more ideas...

I wish I had one of the -100's so I could help more!

I finally got it to work this morning!!
I had mac address filtering turned on. I thought I had it only turned on for wireless, but when I turned it off, the -100 is seen by WM11.
Odd that it would show up on the network, but not to WM11 or Nero with mac filtering.
I guess I know less than I thought I did on networking. (which wasn't much to start with)
Thanks for your help!

[Spanky_Partain]

I have a Vista computer ethernet-ed to the HR20-100 and I'm able to get pictures to work just fine. It won't let me listen to music or watch video. (Video does show up on the menu, but it displays an "x" where the foler icons go.) When I try to select Music, it just stares at me and does nothing. I have about 40gb in mp3, could the library be too big?

Others have also had similar issues with large amounts of audio. Perhaps they will chime in on this thread and post what they have found as a usable limit size.

Woody,
Glad to see you got it working. I checked with Earl last night just to make sure the -100 was coming onto the network with -700's on line as well. But you already found the setting.

[Grampa George]

I just went bact to the national issue (0145) from CE (014b). I'm connected to both network and internet. I can see my xbox 360 on the sharing box of WMP11. I can't see the HR20 on the WMP11. Also there is no "Music/Pictures" on the menue. Someone, HELP!!!!

[Bigdogoh]

I have a Vista computer ethernet-ed to the HR20-100 and I'm able to get pictures to work just fine. It won't let me listen to music or watch video. (Video does show up on the menu, but it displays an "x" where the foler icons go.) When I try to select Music, it just stares at me and does nothing. I have about 40gb in mp3, could the library be too big?

It seems that the limit for music is about 2,000 files in the folder. Any more than that and the HR20 stops listing anything from the folder. And even if songs did show, the interface is so terrible right now that it makes it painful to use the HR20 as a meida server for music. To get to artists in the lower range of the alphabet, you have to scroll down through the entire list (same for songs). There isn't a nice interface to "jump" to the T's or W's, and no way to scroll more than one page listing at a time.

Video is not yet supported so you will always see the "x".

[code4code5]

It seems that the limit for music is about 2,000 files in the folder. Any more than that and the HR20 stops listing anything from the folder. And even if songs did show, the interface is so terrible right now that it makes it painful to use the HR20 as a meida server for music. To get to artists in the lower range of the alphabet, you have to scroll down through the entire list (same for songs). There isn't a nice interface to "jump" to the T's or W's, and no way to scroll more than one page listing at a time.

Video is not yet supported so you will always see the "x".

Thanks... but at least I'm hooked up for VOD :D

[Manta]

Greetings,

I've got a HR20-700 and have all the networking setup correctly. How / where do I access the media files / pictures on the HR20-700? I don't see any tabs in any of the menus for pics / media at all on the TV.

Thanks.

[audiovideoventure]

Anyone found a fix for the HR20 playing three songs and then quitting. I saw that their are a few people out their that are having the same problem. I'm using WMP and I have two HR 20's and they both do the same thing. I am on a wireless connection on my laptop. I haven't had any problems with the connection except with the music files. Pictures play just fine.

[Spanky_Partain]

Greetings,

I've got a HR20-700 and have all the networking setup correctly. How / where do I access the media files / pictures on the HR20-700? I don't see any tabs in any of the menus for pics / media at all on the TV.

Thanks.

Follow the instructions in the begining of this thread to setup WMP11 and you should be able to see pictures/music, no video files are supported. It may not work and there ae other media server software(s) that you can try like Tversity, Twonky, and Nero just to name a few.

[Spanky_Partain]

Anyone found a fix for the HR20 playing three songs and then quitting. I saw that their are a few people out their that are having the same problem. I'm using WMP and I have two HR 20's and they both do the same thing. I am on a wireless connection on my laptop. I haven't had any problems with the connection except with the music files. Pictures play just fine.

Your right some hae this problem and some do not. No one has posted a complete solutioin to this issue.

[Manta]

Follow the instructions in the begining of this thread to setup WMP11 and you should be able to see pictures/music, no video files are supported. It may not work and there ae other media server software(s) that you can try like Tversity, Twonky, and Nero just to name a few.

Great - thanks, got it up and running and working great with WMP11!

[etavares]

I've folllowed the instructions in the beginning of this thread, but I still can't get WMP 11 in XP Home to see the HR20. I checked the DCHP clients list in my admin panel for the router and the HR20 is active on the network. It also passes the network test.

So, I'm guessing it's ZoneAlarm (v 7.0.337.000) that's preventing WMP11 from seeing the HR20.

In my trusted zone, I have the firewall OFF as usual.

OK, never mind. This is weird...about 5 minutes after I gave up, I had a pop-up in my system tray tell me that WMP11 found an unknown device. Just a heads up for other folks having this issue...it could take some time for WMP11 to realize there's something on the network.

[PlanetBill]

Anyone found a fix for the HR20 playing three songs and then quitting. I saw that their are a few people out their that are having the same problem. I'm using WMP and I have two HR 20's and they both do the same thing. I am on a wireless connection on my laptop. I haven't had any problems with the connection except with the music files. Pictures play just fine.

I just set it up last night. I have the same issue. 3 songs and out. Doesn't matter which 3, any 3 and done.:( I still think its a pretty cool option, my pictures looked ok on the TV.

[tladle]

I finally fixed the problem I was having that when I click the Share Media "OK" box of it not bringing up devices.

I followed these instructions from the MS forums:

Go to start, run, then type services.msc. When that
pops up go to the bottom and pick windows media network sharing and stop
that. Close the window. Go to my computer then go to tools at the top and
folder options. From there hit the view tab and select the show hidden files
and folders and about 2 spaces under that is something about hiding system
files. Un-check both of these. When you click the second one it will ask
you if you are sure and say yes. Then get out of that and go to c drive,
docs and settings, all users, then under that there should be the DRM folder.
In that folder delete everything. After that go back to the tools folder
options view thing and put back the two checks that you took off. Go back to
servies.msc and start back up the windows media sharing thing.

I then also had this problem:

when i go back to services.msc i can not start
windows media player network sharing-service. I get "Error 1068: The
dependency service or group failed to start."

Which is resolved by:

Go into START/RUN and type services.msc . Then make sure that:

'HTTP'
'SSDP'
'Universal Plug and Play Host'

are all set to MANUAL. If they're not, then double click to change them.
Then right click all 3 and set them to START . That fixed my "Error 1068: The
dependency service or group failed to start."


I will now restart the HR20 and PC to see if it shows up.

[gbohn]

When I view Pictures on my HR20, the pictures looks skewed... they are skinny (the aspect ratio is wrong... it seems that the pictures do not spread wide enough). Does anybody have this problem as well, and/or know how to fix it? Thanks

[FranklyFred]

Followed all the tips and such shows notebook under computers but not desktop? Works fine off notebook but will not show desktop? Any ideas?

[Gregg1009]

Works fine with the Windows Media Sharing. Does anyone know if they plan on making it a two way connection? So, I could watch recorded shows on my HR20 on my PC in Windows Media Player? That would also be a great way to backup shows to DVD instead of having to delete shows to make room.

[Spanky_Partain]

Works fine with the Windows Media Sharing. Does anyone know if they plan on making it a two way connection? So, I could watch recorded shows on my HR20 on my PC in Windows Media Player? That would also be a great way to backup shows to DVD instead of having to delete shows to make room.

Welcome to the forum.

What you are descirbing is not supported. Only pictures and music are usable at this time through a media server software on the PC.

[garywitt]

I just wanted to describe my experience getting my HR20-700 connected to my wireless network, it was amazingly painless.

I purchased a D-link DGL 3420 wireless gaming adapter on amazon, when it arrived I connected it to my desktop and followed the easy instructions to change the settings to my own wireless network. The only stumbling point was having to change my computer settings to configure a static IP address to get the desktop to recognize the adapter, but the instructions were included with the adapter and once I did that it worked flawlessy. I entered my network SSID, channel, security type and key, and that was it. I plugged it into the HR20 and powered it up. I went back to desktop and a message had popped up saying unknown device found - this was through Windows Media Connect, which I had downloaded earlier for my Xbox 360. Using the prompts that popped up, I set it to allow sharing of music, pictures and video. After doing this, I opened WMP11 and confirmed that the "unknown device" was set to allow sharing, and it was.

Back to the HR20 - I went to the menu, setup, network and clicked connect to network. Alas, it failed. I went to advanced setup and was trying to figure out the exact numbers I needed to enter into the IP address, mask, DNS server, etc., when I decided to go back to the first screen and try it again. I clicked on connect to network and wallah - everything worked great. Been listening to songs and looking at pictures since, no dropoffs or logoffs.

I live in Denver - can't wait for VOD!!

P.S. I'm on 145 - missed the 14f window.

[DaHound]

Got network connected to internet on the HR20 network setup. Vista WMP sees the HR20. Did reset on HR20 and still don't see music/pictures on the menu. Anyone else using Vista on a Non VIIV system having success? Any trouble shooting tips? I followed all steps for sharing folders to HR20, but still no joy?

[packfan909]

Got network connected to internet on the HR20 network setup. Vista WMP sees the HR20. Did reset on HR20 and still don't see music/pictures on the menu. Anyone else using Vista on a Non VIIV system having success? Any trouble shooting tips? I followed all steps for sharing folders to HR20, but still no joy?

Not on Vista personally, but an alternative to WMP should work on Vista. That application is TVersity Media Server. Go to the following URL:

http://www.tversity.com

The software is free. They list that Vista is not supported however people have been using the latest version on Vista without issue.

pf

[DaHound]

Success! Had to go into Vista Windows Firewall in the control panel and click on the exceptions tab. It didn't have the 2 WMP programs checked. Once I checked them and clicked on apply, the Music/Pictures option showed up on the HR20 menu. Funny thing though, I'm getting time outs for pictures after about 5 minutes. I know people were having this issue with music, but not pictures. Have to do some trouble shooting this weekend when I have some time.

[jmahone]

I followed the directions and managed to get my HR20 connected to my wireless network. I am using Linksys equipment (WRT54G, G only mode, WEP; Wireless-G Game Adapter), fully patched WinXP Pro SP2, and have the latest national load on the HR20. I am able to see files shared off my laptop's WMP 11 library, which looks at my local drive that has been shared.

The things that are now different about my wireless network are: file sharing turned on, and it appears MS Firewall is now enabled, though I use TrendMicro, which is still turned on). So, the questions:

1) Do I have to have MS Firewall on? I have heard that it is bad news to run both MS Firewall and your 3rd party Firewall (TrendMicro, in my case) at the same time. I would love not to run MS Firewall, just because my TrendMicro firewall is tuned for my apps already, and it has been working fine.

2) Is is necessary (I suspect so, but thought I'd ask) to have Windows file sharing turned on? That is, is there another way to share without turning on Windows file sharing in general? Previously, I have never had file sharing turned on; instead, we use a networked external drive that all of the laptops in my house can see wirelessly (see 3 below). This is a security concern for me to allow file sharing, and would prefer a safer way to do it, if possible.

3) Can you use the HR20<->Wireless Game Adapter<->WRT54G<->PC topology to share music and photos from a network linked external drive? I tried to add the directories off of the external network drive, and WMP 11 let me do it, but I never saw those files show up. Instead, just the local stuff (not much) on my laptop, which is the PC in the topology above.

Basically, I have this:

WRT54G<->myLaptopWithWMP11 with sharing connected wireless
^
|--------->Linksys NAS link<-->external drive (where most of our M&P files are)
|--------->2 other laptops connected wirelessly
|--------->1 desktop connected by ethernet
|--------->Linksys Wireless-G Game Adapter<-->HR20

The bulk of our pictures and music reside on this external drive, since none of our computers have drives large enough to hold everything.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Jerry

[code4code5]

Success! Had to go into Vista Windows Firewall in the control panel and click on the exceptions tab. It didn't have the 2 WMP programs checked. Once I checked them and clicked on apply, the Music/Pictures option showed up on the HR20 menu. Funny thing though, I'm getting time outs for pictures after about 5 minutes. I know people were having this issue with music, but not pictures. Have to do some trouble shooting this weekend when I have some time.

I downloaded Tversity last week, and not a hiccup. Music and Photos both work perfectly.

[wilbur_the_goose]

I had my Vista Ultimate Home hooked up and running in about 5 minutes.

Only thing I noticed is that the pictures aren't as sharp as they are when using my XBOX360 to view them from the PC.

No biggie!

[wilbur_the_goose]

Spoke too soon - the HR20 logged off from the PC after 5-10 minutes.

I know somebody had a suggestion for this, but I can't find it. Anybody know where to look?

[David Carmichael]

? Should I "SEE" the H20 listed as drive in my local network neighborhood???
Got my H20 to see the shared folders using "TwonkyMedia" and was able to view the images. (what is the max size of the image or any way to tell the H20 to enlarge the photo?)

I can not get my H20 to work with MediaPlayer 11 or TVersity Media Server(sp?)

I am running Windows XP-Pro with all the latest updates..

I keep seeing messages about "Step By Step" installs.. but what I download does not have any step by step how to's.

--David

[wilbur_the_goose]

David - I sure can see the HR20 (not H20) in my Netwok Neighborhood.

[tfederov]

With WMP, do you have it set up to share? From WMP, click the "Library"tab. Then select "Media Sharing". Once you do that, select "Share my media" and you should be all set.

[David Carmichael]

David - I sure can see the HR20 (not H20) in my Netwok Neighborhood.

Are you running Vista or XP?

If so could you post your settings? Did you have to uninstall and reinstall media player?

My router is a "2-Wire" 2701HG-B DSL Gateway ([AT&T/Yahoo!/SWB] Supplied) and it sees the 'DIRECTV-HR20-663FDD' just fine...

Its just when I open up my 'Network Neighborhood' the HR20 is not listed... other hardware and shared drives as listed just fine.

Using 'TwonkyMedia' the HR20 is able to access the shared photo directories just fine... Just don't like the idea of having to spend $40 just to show pictures in my living room from my computer...And if Twonky is working why won't Tversity work ?? <<unable to access any of the internet radio based listings that are showing up on the HR20's listing and can not seem to figure out how to remove from the HR20 listing?>>

[wilbur_the_goose]

I'm running Vista... I have the HR20 hardwired to my router.

Have you rebooted everything?

[David Carmichael]

I'm running Vista... I have the HR20 hardwired to my router.

Have you rebooted everything?


Yes and my HR20 is hardwired also... But I am running 'XP' and the only things that show in my Network listing are shared drives/folders... you unshare they are no longer listed...:confused:

[PlanetBill]

I just set it up last night. I have the same issue. 3 songs and out. Doesn't matter which 3, any 3 and done.:( I still think its a pretty cool option, my pictures looked ok on the TV.


anyone had success. If I watch a slideshow of pictures it won't log off, but if I'm not watching pictures, just music, its 3 and out.

[wyllys]

anyone had success. If I watch a slideshow of pictures it won't log off, but if I'm not watching pictures, just music, its 3 and out.


I've had the same experience. If only playing the music, it logs off after about 10
minutes (3 songs). If viewing pictures AND playing music, it works for a long time (I've not had any hangups in that configuration).

I don't think this has anything to do with firewalls, virus control, or router issues (for most people). The basic issue is that the media sharing software in the HR20 is total crap and has not been worked on in a long time. Each time I see that I've had a firmware upgrade, I cross my fingers, but am always disappointed. Maybe someday they will get around to investigating the issues and fixing them. For now, it is a crap shoot because we are using terribly buggy software.

TVersity and Twonky use the same underlying protocols as Windows Media player to share the music with the HR20, so it doesn't really matter which one you use. The problem is in the client (the HR20), not the server (your PC), so don't think that spending the $$ for Twonky or TVersity will fix the issues. It might give you a nicer interface for configuring your libraries and playlists, but its not going to correct the problem with the HR20 itself. Only the manufacturer can fix that problem.

[wilbur_the_goose]

Actually, I've found that Windows Media Center in my XBOX360 is a LOT better than the HR20's implemention (as it currently stands), so I'm not going to spend much more time right now on this...

[mxd]

I keep seeing messages about "Step By Step" installs.. but what I download does not have any step by step how to's.

--David[/QUOTE]

I've noticed that too. It would really be nice if someone could create a document for those of us who are not so "networking" savvy!

[NYHeel]

I have my Hr20 hardwired to my router via a switch. It connects to the internet fine on the Hr20 screen. I also see it on my Network Magic program. However, when I go into WMP11 to share the content, I don't see the Hr20 as a device. In fact I don't see any devices. By the way I have a non-viiv intel PC.

Also, once it is all setup where would I go to see the musin and pictures menu. I haven't seen anything yet but that could be because I haven't got the WMP part working.

[Milominderbinder2]

I keep seeing messages about "Step By Step" installs.. but what I download does not have any step by step how to's.

--David
I take it your are referring to the opening post:

HR20: Networking with Windows Media Player (WMP) (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=767858#post767858)

I have added more detailed instructions in the attached pdf file.

There are also links to the WMP, Twonky, TVersity, and XP setup details.

Could you give me a little more information about the steps that require more detail?

- Craig

[Spanky_Partain]

I keep seeing messages about "Step By Step" installs.. but what I download does not have any step by step how to's.

--David

I've noticed that too. It would really be nice if someone could create a document for those of us who are not so "networking" savvy![/QUOTE]

There are also some attachments and step-by-step instructions in this thread that have not made it to a permanent link yet!

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=75204

[Grampa George]

Hey,

I have an old WGA11b game adapter on my HR20. The HR20 shows connect to both internet and local network. My PC, using WPM11, can not see the HR20. Has anyone got the WGA11b to work? If so, what is the setup for the WGA11b? Any help will be most welcome.:)

[NBCGLX]

Can't figure this out for the life of me!

I have my HR20-100S hardwired from my router which is connected to a Windows Vista Ultimate PC. I've followed all the tips-and-tricks I can find and thoroughly gone over file sharing on my PC but I still can't get the file sharing to see the HR20. However, when I look at my network, the HR20 is definitely there. What on Earth am I doing wrong that I can't get this to work?!

[jimbowen72]

I have WMP11 hosting music & photos on both a PC and a laptop. Both are configured to allow the HR20. The HR20 can see both computers in My Computers, however it can only see content from one (PC, which is first in the list). Via Xbox, content from both computers streams with no problem.

Has anyone verified that you can pull music & files from multiple computers/servers? Thanks!

[lucky13]

Finally found a use for the Music and Pictures option.

I've been loading up the internal drive of one of my HR20s with series that my wife and I will get to in the months between May sweeps and the start of next season. I have most of Law and Order, Dresden Files, and a few others.

Before switching to the ESATA, I took pictures of the playlist--first in alpha order, then each group in date order (showing the episodes).

Downloaded the pix to a laptop on my network, and now the contents of the internal drive are visible (though not viewable) on the ESATA.

Copied from my ESATA post.

[rahchgo]

OK. OK. OK. already, too many post about networking and rumors about VOD, I had to finally try. :lol: Last obstacle to the project was the cost of a Wireless game adapter. So, this morning I was rummaging the closet and ran across my old Wireless Access Point. I had upgraded my router some time back with a Wireless router and forgot that I still at the WAP. Having read somewhere that you could configure a WAP to be a wireless bridge, I now don't have to purchase a game adapter. So, about 30 minutes of playing and I'm networked now! :)
Here's my configuration.
I started with the "Networking Hints and Tips" document in the OP of this thread.

My router is a Linksys WRT54G, it's set for WEP encryption, and MAC authorized wireless connections.

I configured a Linksys WAP11 to be the wireless bridge.
Wireless bridge requires the MAC address of the wireless router. I also put in SSID, Channel, and WEP encryption info. I wasn't clear if that was required for a bridge, but I did it anyway.

I put the MAC address of the WAP11 in my router table of authorized devices. I assumed this was necessary, but didn't try it without it.

Tested the bridge by plugging my Laptop into it and everything worked.

Attached bridge to HR20, and completed the very simple steps to enable the network connections. No problems with that at all.

Opened WMP11 and found the HR20 (unknown device) in the sharing options and enabled that. Went back to to HR20 and it could already see my Music and Picture folders. Didn't even need to reset it.

Many posts refer to not being able to "see" the HR20. I can't see it from my PC except in Windows Media Player. It does not show in Network Places and I'm not sure it should. I can see it from my Router in the DHCP clients table. It shows there with client name DIRECTV-HR20-Exxxxx (serial number?)

I have had no problems playing music and/or looking a pictures so far. I did have some choppiness in the music the first time I tried it with pictures at the same time, but it seems to be settled down now.

Thanks again to Milobinder2 for his great hints and tips documents.

[edvo]

Alright, I feel real stupid now! I followed the HR20 networking tips and tricks version 1.1, but when I click on wmp11 , library, media sharing and click the share my media box, (item 11 and 12 on version 1.1 tips) , wmp does not find the HR20, and thus I do not get the Music and Pictures tab on my HR20.
I have a configured DLink DWL-G820 game/bridge adapter that the HR20 says is connected to the internet, and networked, via the connection test.
My firewall(both windows and Norton) are disabled and I have my music and picture files set to Share.
help me I am going crazy!!!

[Spanky_Partain]

There are reports of not being able to see the "Unknown Device" in the WMP11 software. I also have this issue.

I do not use WMP as my media server, I use Nero instead. It works for me and I already owned a version of Nero.

It would be very nice for someone who has had the issue with WMP11 no showing the HR20 as a "Unkown Device" to actually work out a solution, post it and copy Criaig, the owner of the tips-n-tricks, so he could update the file with a possible solution that affects some users.

[edvo]

I finally fixed the problem I was having that when I click the Share Media "OK" box of it not bringing up devices.

I followed these instructions from the MS forums:

Go to start, run, then type services.msc. When that
pops up go to the bottom and pick windows media network sharing and stop
that. Close the window. Go to my computer then go to tools at the top and
folder options. From there hit the view tab and select the show hidden files
and folders and about 2 spaces under that is something about hiding system
files. Un-check both of these. When you click the second one it will ask
you if you are sure and say yes. Then get out of that and go to c drive,
docs and settings, all users, then under that there should be the DRM folder.
In that folder delete everything. After that go back to the tools folder
options view thing and put back the two checks that you took off. Go back to
servies.msc and start back up the windows media sharing thing.

I then also had this problem:

when i go back to services.msc i can not start
windows media player network sharing-service. I get "Error 1068: The
dependency service or group failed to start."

Which is resolved by:

Go into START/RUN and type services.msc . Then make sure that:

'HTTP'
'SSDP'
'Universal Plug and Play Host'

are all set to MANUAL. If they're not, then double click to change them.
Then right click all 3 and set them to START . That fixed my "Error 1068: The
dependency service or group failed to start."


I will now restart the HR20 and PC to see if it shows up.

I tried this and it cleared up some of the problem, but will test it tonight and report back...tladle never posted back to report if it worked...we may have to call 911!!!

[jmschnur]

TVversity is workibg fairly well for me-latest version.

Phtos with high res jpg files are not particularly sharp. THe program down rexs them. Music is fine-but not all my CDs show up in the list. Searching for a title is not possible.

I installed TVersity and have a Buffalo wirelss ruter with the 2.53 firmware.

I used the latest patch.

Everything worked rather straighforwardly.

[David Carmichael]

I take it your are referring to the opening post:

HR20: Networking with Windows Media Player (WMP) (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=767858#post767858)

I have added more detailed instructions in the attached pdf file.

There are also links to the WMP, Twonky, TVersity, and XP setup details.

Could you give me a little more information about the steps that require more detail?

- Craig

Well don't ask me how or why...

But...

Due to the past weeks offer of a 'Toshiba A20 HD-DVD' player + 4 four in store free movies from "Best Buy"...+ 5 by mail from Toshiba...

I already had a single CAT-5 cable into my living room and a older 10/100 5-port lan switch...
I added the switch in the living room so that both the HR20 and the A20 could access the NET.

And while it seems that currently there is no DNS request/reset software on the HR20 and it must have an assigned IP address to work....

Now Media Player will share MP3's and Pictures?!!
[If I run both Twonky and Media Player I "see" two different media servers listed on the HR20????]

I did not change a single setting on my computer...

If I remove the switch and plug the cable directly into the HR20 Media Player quits working yet Twonky keeps working (only have three days left on my demo version)...

I know it is not an issue with the cable as I had a RePlay DVR connected until a hard-drive crash (with extended warranty that would of expired three days later so choice was self repair or take the $300 store credit and update to HD), and I could share programs up to the day before the crash via the net, for close to four years.....

Now if only I could stream and record NET shows like C-NET to my HR20....

......or can I and if so what is the trick that I am missing??

--David

[lovswr]

TVversity is workibg fairly well for me-latest version.

Phtos with high res jpg files are not particularly sharp. THe program down rexs them. Music is fine-but not all my CDs show up in the list. Searching for a title is not possible.

I installed TVersity and have a Buffalo wirelss ruter with the 2.53 firmware.

I used the latest patch.

Everything worked rather straighforwardly.


Yep, the latest version of tversity combined with the tversity xbox 360 patch now allows my HR20 & 360 to work with the same server settings. :D

[Milominderbinder2]

Now if only I could stream and record NET shows like C-NET to my HR20....

......or can I and if so what is the trick that I am missing??

--David
At a press conference this month they said it would be coming.

- Craig

[David Carmichael]

I don't know what the reset of you do with the Photo and Music feeds.. but..
I use the program "DVDProfiler" to track my DVD collection.. I have a number of DVD's which I purchased and just not purchased.. created a directory of DVD Cover Images of thes "yet to be watched" DVD's and where already had a bunch of movie theme music and now I have a "Comming Attractions" playing...
I would really be greate if I could really play the movie trailers....

[RevelationTravis]

Okay, I've been reading through forums for the last 24 hours and I've tried several things with no success. So I've decided to go ahead and post my question and problem. I apologize if I'm asking something that's already been asked and somebody has to repeat something that I should already know the answer to, but I need some help. I can't get my HR20 to connect with my PC to play music and photos. I'll give a brief on my system/setup with what I think would be the pertinant information needed (if I'm missing anything, let me know):

IRD: HR20-100 (software version 0x146)
OS: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2006)
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ 2.2 GHz
Router: Belkin Pre-N Model F5D8230-4
ISP: Cox Communications
Arris Broadband modem connected to router using Cat5e cable. Router is then connected to both PC and HR20 with seperate Cat5e cables coming out of the router.

When I try to connect from the Network menu, it says that everything is okay and my HR20 finds the network, but it fails on the internet connection and I can't get Windows Media Player 11 to find it at all. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling WMP 11 and various things under the advanced setup networking menu on the HR20. Although I doubt it makes any difference, I've tried both ethernet ports on the HR20 and different ports on the router (only 4 exist and PC is using one). I'm fairly good with technical stuff as far as cables/connections/satellite stuff goes, but I'm still trying to learn all the in's and out's of this networking business and I'm not learning as fast as I'd like. If somebody could please help me out I would appreciate it.

[PlanetBill]

RevelationTravis,

Can you connect to the internet with the PC in a different router port. If so, it is most likely a router setup issue. Does the router do DHCP? Maybe you need to manually supply an IP address for the HR20 to communicate properly.

[PlanetBill]

BTW,

:welcome_s to the forum.

[RevelationTravis]

Thank you for the welcome. To answer your question, yes I can connect to the internet with my PC in a different router port. I spoke with Belkin's tech support for a while trying to figure out how to make it work. After being unsuccessful, they said that it may be possible that the HR20 is trying to use certain ports that I would need to manually open for it to be allowed. I don't know very much about networking when it comes to firewalls, ports, and advanced setups on routers. I'm not even 100% sure of what all the stuff on the advanced settings of the Network option in the setup menu on the HR20 do. Do you, or anybody, know enough about networking to help me with this? Or am I just missing something altogether and my problem isn't with my router's configuration impairing it's ability to communicate with my HR20 (as I suspect is the case)?

[houskamp]

Thank you for the welcome. To answer your question, yes I can connect to the internet with my PC in a different router port. I spoke with Belkin's tech support for a while trying to figure out how to make it work. After being unsuccessful, they said that it may be possible that the HR20 is trying to use certain ports that I would need to manually open for it to be allowed. I don't know very much about networking when it comes to firewalls, ports, and advanced setups on routers. I'm not even 100% sure of what all the stuff on the advanced settings of the Network option in the setup menu on the HR20 do. Do you, or anybody, know enough about networking to help me with this? Or am I just missing something altogether and my problem isn't with my router's configuration impairing it's ability to communicate with my HR20 (as I suspect is the case)?

only thing I can think of is "mac address filtering" might be turned on.. you would need to look in the routers setup, problably under security, and see if it is on..

[jdeaton]

I'm none too tech. savvy but i did manage to get my HR 20 networked to my old non Viiv XP computer, and I find the music and photos a really cool feature.

Just today, new software became available for Sony's PS3 which now allows it to be networked in the same manner as the HR 20. After I downloaded the software on the PS3 it immediately recognized my computer. At the same time my computer alerted me a new unidentified device was found. I enabled file sharing in Windows Media for the PS3 just l did for the HR 20 and success... Kind of. I can view photos off the PS3 with no problem, but even though the PS3 lists album, artist, song, file type etc., it won't play my WMA Lossless audio files. The HR 20 plays WMA files just fine. I then went up and ripped a CD as a WAV Lossless file and the PS3 played that but the HR 20 sees it but will not play it. I'd like to be able to use both devices. Anybody know what file type might work for both?

[iowaberg]

I just got my HR20 installed and am having a heck of a time. I have the cable directly connected to my laptop which is on my wireless network. THe HR20 can see the network and internet just fine. But when I click Media Sharing under the Library tab, it doesn't recognize the HR20 at all. Any ideas? I've also tried connecting directly to my router, but then the HR20 couldn't find the internet, but it could find the network just fine.

[RevelationTravis]

iowaberg: it sounds like your having the same problem I am. When I connect my HR20 directly to the router, it finds the network but not the internet with the sub sequential result being that Windows Media Player 11 can't find it. To quickly address houskamps last idea for a solution, I have turned off mac address filtering and I've also tried turning the filtering on and allowing the mac address specific to my HR20. I thought maybe the HR20 was using a port that was being blocked by my routers firewall, so I added it's ip address that I manually assigned to it to the DMZ on the router, which would allow all ports for that ip address. It didn't work. The frustration continues and I am out of ideas.

[edvo]

Join the frustration club!!I am going to try Tversity...all this just to see a photo and listen to music!!

[lovswr]

Ok, how do I force the HR20 to actually request an ip address? I have the linksys gaming brdige, so the HR20 thinks it is wired. If I manually set the ip address , it will connect to my local network but always fails to connect to the internet.

I was using a static ip, but recently learned that the HR20 like to get the ip via DHCP. so I turned up DHCP on my Linksys WRT54GS. The Linksys is not directly connected to the ineternet. for that I use my Westell Bellsouth FASTdsl modem.

Actually as I typed those words above I think I have it figured out. I told the HR20 that the Linksys is the gateway. I think I need to change that to eh Westell.


Nice thread! :D


edit: Well that did not work. So how do I force this thing to request?

[oldguy1]

I just got my HR20 installed and am having a heck of a time. I have the cable directly connected to my laptop which is on my wireless network. THe HR20 can see the network and internet just fine. But when I click Media Sharing under the Library tab, it doesn't recognize the HR20 at all. Any ideas? I've also tried connecting directly to my router, but then the HR20 couldn't find the internet, but it could find the network just fine.

If you are using wmp11, it will not show the hr20 as such. It shows it as an "unknown device".

[iowaberg]

If you are using wmp11, it will not show the hr20 as such. It shows it as an "unknown device".

It doesn't even show as an "unknown device"

[ktabel01]

Didn't really want to try this, and now that I have I'm about to give up. Previously been using my 360 do do this, and it was very straightforward and easy. that is currently in the repar shop, so now, using my game adapter in the HR 20, and it connects to my network and internet fine in the HR 20 menus, but in WMP11 all I see is my 360. Have RBR the HR20, reinstalled WMP11, enabled automatic sharing, and nothing. Shouldn't be this difficult, I've networked countless items in my house and nothing like this pain.

[JPHdtv]

I read and went through everything all of us have experienced with networking the hr20. Always was very quirky. Then I found this prog called network magic. It gives you flowchart of your network, unlocks your network to add new devices. Was so very easy. I had the hr20 networked wirelessly in 5 minutes after installing the program. It is free for 30 days. so a search for "network magic"

[mrhoads]

Attached below are step-by-step instructions for networking your HR20 with a non-Viiv PC.

If you have a Viiv PC, please see these links:
DirecTV / Viiv Quick Start Guide (http://forums.directv.com/pe/RepositoryFileDownloadServlet/10180530/DIRECTV_ViiV_Final_SM.pdf)

Also see Earl's excellent ViiV Documentation (that applies here too!):
HR20: Networking and ViiV (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72947)

If you want to try TVersity instead of WMP11... (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=75287)

If you want to try Twonky instead of WMP11... (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=73279)

Other Tips & Tricks links are below.

As always, thank you to Earl for providing such a wealth of information and Chris Blount, the founder of DBSTalk.com.

- Craig

Previous versions:
1.1 adds more detailed instructions.
1.0 6,722 dounloads.


I must be missing something........
"networking your HR20 with a non-Viiv PC"
and all the directions are for Viiv PC

Where is the NON

[lovswr]

Yep, the latest version of tversity combined with the tversity xbox 360 patch now allows my HR20 & 360 to work with the same server settings. :D

I know it's poor form to reply to ones own posts... but ever since I got on 164 I can not get the network folders option to show up in the menu of the HR-20.


I even changed from statis to DHCP on the HR-20. I know that tversity is working becuase my 360 is still working just fine.


Anybody else having problems with the lastest software release of the HR-20 as far as networking goes?

[pjo1966]

I read and went through everything all of us have experienced with networking the hr20. Always was very quirky. Then I found this prog called network magic. It gives you flowchart of your network, unlocks your network to add new devices. Was so very easy. I had the hr20 networked wirelessly in 5 minutes after installing the program. It is free for 30 days. so a search for "network magic"

I downloaded Network Magic and gave it a shot. It sees my HR20 and says that it is an "Authorized Network Device". I still am unable to obtain an Internet connection on the HR20 and as such do not have access to my photos and music. I am open to suggestions.

[Bob Coxner]

Looking to set up a simple network in anticipation of VOD. Can/should I go for a gigabit ethernet switch or is 10/100 sufficient? I was looking at the Netgear GS605NA for a switch if gigabit will work with the HR20. Anyone have experience with this one?

[masmith]

Well, does anyone actually want to say how you connect this with WMP11? Apparently, no one mentioned that in this thread. My internet connection is working on the HR20, but WMP11 is not seeing the HR20 and vice versa.

Is there a guide here?

[Michael D'Angelo]

Well, does anyone actually want to say how you connect this with WMP11? Apparently, no one mentioned that in this thread. My internet connection is working on the HR20, but WMP11 is not seeing the HR20 and vice versa.

Is there a guide here?

Did you turn on sharing in WMP11?

[masmith]

Did you turn on sharing in WMP11?

yep.

[CobraGuy]

To everyone who is having problems with music/photos dropping out after about 10 minutes....have you gone into your power settings to see if there is something there that might be causing this? Set everything to Always On and see if that fixes it. Just an idea....

[Sander]

Well, does anyone actually want to say how you connect this with WMP11? Apparently, no one mentioned that in this thread. My internet connection is working on the HR20, but WMP11 is not seeing the HR20 and vice versa.

Is there a guide here?

I have tried every suggestion listed here. However, WMP11 is still a no-go for me. XP-Pro shows no other network devices and Vista shows just other users on the same PC, no HR20. However, both Twonkey and TVersity work just fine. I figure if they work, then the problem has to be on the WMP11 end.

[mopzo]

I have tried every suggestion listed here. However, WMP11 is still a no-go for me. XP-Pro shows no other network devices and Vista shows just other users on the same PC, no HR20. However, both Twonkey and TVersity work just fine. I figure if they work, then the problem has to be on the WMP11 end.

I had a similar situation as you. I was thinking it had to be something with the firewall but no matter what I changed I could never get WMP 11 to work. Though I didn't try Twonkey or TVersity, I did use Nero's MediaHome (Bundled with Version 7 Ultimate)

Upon launching MediaHome I received an alert saying "Your Firewall settings do not allow the sharing of media. Would like to change your settings?" After replying to the usual security warnings, I clicked "Yes" and voila!! MediaHome listed my device as "DirecTv HR20 with the IP address" I then setup the shared folders, transfered a few pics them and it all works as advertised.

As an experiment I then tried WMP 11. Turned on sharing and voila!! There is now listed an "Unknown Device" I haven't tried transferring any pics yet so i can't confirm proper operation. I have no reason to think that it wouldn't work.....
MediaHome was able to knock a hole in the firewall that I or WMP11 couldn't do.

I like the fact that the HR20 displays when the media server logs on and off. We like viewing family photos on the big screen but I see no value to this feature yet. I want to be able to xfer my recordings to my laptop for when I travel.

[nino2469]

do we know when the video option will be available?

[CobraGuy]

mopzo...was it Windows firewall? Or aftermarket? I have Norton...with auto update so it's always the latest software. It works just fine with WMP11. However, when I was doing my network setup, somewhere along the line I noticed that my Windows firewall was turned off. I'm sure that Norton did this when I installed it. You aren't supposed to run Norton, McAfee, etc firewalls AND the Windows firewall. If it's the Windows firewall causing issues, I wonder what would happen if you turned it off, made all your network connections, then turned it back on.

[mopzo]

mopzo...was it Windows firewall? Or aftermarket? I have Norton...with auto update so it's always the latest software. It works just fine with WMP11. However, when I was doing my network setup, somewhere along the line I noticed that my Windows firewall was turned off. I'm sure that Norton did this when I installed it. You aren't supposed to run Norton, McAfee, etc firewalls AND the Windows firewall. If it's the Windows firewall causing issues, I wonder what would happen if you turned it off, made all your network connections, then turned it back on.

My Windows Firewall is off. Using a third party app, Trend Micro PC-cillin.

[pjo1966]

I tried MediaHome. It saw the HR20. but the HR20-100 still does not connect to the internet and does not give me the Music & Pictures menu.

[mopzo]

I tried MediaHome. It saw the HR20. but the HR20-100 still does not connect to the internet and does not give me the Music & Pictures menu.

Are you using version 7? My understand was that MediaHome bundled with version 6 does not work.

[pjo1966]

Are you using version 7? My understand was that MediaHome bundled with version 6 does not work.

Yup. Version 7. The problem seems to be with the HR20, not the computer side of things.

[Spanky_Partain]

Yup. Version 7. The problem seems to be with the HR20, not the computer side of things.

Make sure you are in Port 1 and not Port 2 of the ethernet plugs on the hr20-100.

[pjo1966]

Make sure you are in Port 1 and not Port 2 of the ethernet plugs on the hr20-100.



It is indeed in port 1.

[pjo1966]

Is networking officially supported by DirecTV? Can I call and have someone look into this for me, or would I just be wasting my time?

[mopzo]

Is networking officially supported by DirecTV? Can I call and have someone look into this for me, or would I just be wasting my time?

Wouldn't hurt to call. Worse they would say " Function not yet supported"

Are you using wired or wireless?

Other suggestions: Encryption within the router must be disabled. The HR20 does not support encryption. I use dynamic IP addressing not static.

Are you using a MAC address filter?

Side note: Tested the media server with my PS3 last night. WOW!! That's the way it is supposed to work. Fast! thumbnails for pics and vids. Not a glitch nor crash.

[Spanky_Partain]

Is networking officially supported by DirecTV? Can I call and have someone look into this for me, or would I just be wasting my time?

It is supported under Viiv technology. So yes, you can call and complain.

[pjo1966]

Wouldn't hurt to call. Worse they would say " Function not yet supported"

Are you using wired or wireless?

Other suggestions: Encryption within the router must be disabled. The HR20 does not support encryption. I use dynamic IP addressing not static.

Are you using a MAC address filter?

Side note: Tested the media server with my PS3 last night. WOW!! That's the way it is supposed to work. Fast! thumbnails for pics and vids. Not a glitch nor crash.



I am using wired with a 2Wire 2700HG. I'm not to savvy on networking (I think that might be abundantly clear by now), but since I'm using wired, that bypasses the password encryption... correct? I need to have password encryption on because my neighbors have a nasty habit of using my bandwidth. even though they have their own. As for a MAC address filtering, I don't think I am using that, but I am not entirely sure. I'll have to do some digging.

[pjo1966]

OK... I gave up on using advanced settings and went back to the defaults. It finally connected to the internet. :up: I don't see the Music & Photos menu yet, but it's progress.

*edit* Now the HR20 no longer appears in Nero MediaHome. :confused:

[sspencer43]

I just today successfully connected my HR20-700 to my network. I was able to see my pictures/music/videos just fine from my HR20 and TV. I am using the following setup:

HR20-700, 0x168
Linksys Wireless G router, WRT54GS, wired directly into it
Windows XP Home
WMP 11

Everything worked the first time without a reboot of my HR20. It took a while for everything to be seen from my HR20 that was on my PC but after about 1 hour, I was able to see everything. Even my playlist I was creating through WMP 11.

Very cool.

Now the only thing that is missing is the ability to watch DVD home movies that are on my computer from my HR2.

Just thought I would add my information as well.

[sbergstc]

Hello all,

First off I just want to say thanks to all the posters for their questions and answers... It really helped me get going with this project and to understand what I was seeing when I attempted to make it work.

2ndly I wanted to tell you what I did in case it might help someone else.

My configuration is:

Linksys Router/access point WRT54G running wpa2 encryption
Linksys Wireless Bridge WET54G
HR20-100
Windows XP (fully updated)
WMP11

I had some trouble out of the box connecting the bridge to the HR20 and I tried a lot of different combinations in the HR20 network setup. After trying for a couple of days I decided to call Linksys this afternoon to make sure that my bridge was talking to my router. Turns out IT WASN'T... even though the HR20 said it was "connected" to the network.

I asked the tech if I should update the firmware as the unit shipped with orig firmware and there had been a number of updates. Yep, good idea he said... I flashed the firmware and reset the bridge. After rebooting the router and bridge a couple of times, we got verification that they could link wirelessly and wired (by pinging the bridge from the desktop). During that process the bridge used its default IP address. I then configured the bridge to have a router assigned IP and then to EXACTLY match the router other settings (mode, SSID, channel, and security incl pw). Pinged the unit and so far so good...

Now the part that confused me from the beginning, that I never found answered in this forum, was WHICH IP/gateway/dns info to enter into the HR20 Network Setup. I was told by Linksys that probably the router info from my router's setup status page. That didnt work... I then tried the IP info taken from the BRIDGE setup and taadaa... connected to network as well as internet.

I had already set up wmp11 to share (on desktop) and sure enough, there was an entry for "unknown" device which I "allowed" and the folders are now visible on the HR20. My laptop showed up in the HR20 menu as well after zone alarm asked me if it was ok for wmp11 to connect.

I would also like to mentioned that I connected the bridge to my laptops ethernet port until I could get it to successfully ping wirelessly as well as wired. (this may have been unnecessary, but my laptop is recognized by the HR20, so who knows...)

Other settings that may be important...

DHCP enabled (router assigns IP)
MAC filtering enabled PERMIT ONLY (added hr20, bridge, laptop MAC addresses)
Added Bridge IP address to Zone Alarm

Sorry to be so long winded, but I see that there many folks out there that are going thru the same thing I did prior to getting sucessfully connected and hopefully there's some bit of info here that can help someone.

Good luck all,
Sbergstc:D

[sbergstc]

Now that I have the HR20 working I have a couple of questions regarding the PC side...

Should I be able to see the HR20 in Windows Explorer... like I can see my laptop within Network Places? If so, how do I find it? I can search for computers, but I need a name...

And should I be able to see the wireless bridge in the Network Places (like the router shows up)?

Thanks,
SBergstc

[Michael D'Angelo]

Now that I have the HR20 working I have a couple of questions regarding the PC side...

Should I be able to see the HR20 in Windows Explorer... like I can see my laptop within Network Places? If so, how do I find it? I can search for computers, but I need a name...

And should I be able to see the wireless bridge in the Network Places (like the router shows up)?

Thanks,
SBergstc

What media player are you using? If you are using WMP11 open that up. Then right the dark colored bar at the top and then select tools, options, Library, configure sharing, and check the share my media to box. Your should have a unknown device pop up in the box below. It may take a few to pop up. Then click allow and you should see music & photos in the HR20 menu.

If you are using another medai player I am not sure because that is the only one I set up.

[sbergstc]

My post from yesterday tells my story... I have everything connected and working great including WMP11. I was wondering if I could see the HR20 on my PC...

Also, does anyone have any tips on how to organize photos for easy viewing? Right now I'm sifting thru folders and folders (which end up only having a couple of pics in each) or I have to watch ALL the photos in My Pictures folder (which is thousands)!

Sbergstc

[Milominderbinder2]

There is hope coming for those with problems.

The last three beta releases (CE's) are improving Media results for many.

Hang on if you are having problems.

- Craig

[mdh333]

Any rumor on actually supporting something like wireless USB adapters? (I have a couple of those laying around the house) instead of having to buy a wireless game adapter?

[Spanky_Partain]

Nope. At this time there is no rumor of this happening. It has been suggested though. Threat of having to add a bunch of different drivers to support many different types is the argument as to why it has not been done.

A wireless game adapter is a good alternative though.

[alaskahill]

When I view Pictures on my HR20, the pictures looks skewed... they are skinny (the aspect ratio is wrong... it seems that the pictures do not spread wide enough). Does anybody have this problem as well, and/or know how to fix it? Thanks

I was able to set up my HR20-100 w/ the linksys router and WMP 11 on Windows XP without issue, but I have the exact problem that is posted. After searching around on the forum I see some other people have similar issues w/ photo quality, but I couldn't find any posts about possible causes or remedies. There aren't any settings in WMP that look like would have any effect and I tried every possible screen resolution combination again to no effect. Has anyone figure out how to fix this?

[mandmsf]

HR20 Networking - Video and/or replacing phone?

First, thanks to all for these posts. We're all wired with CAT-5 and so it was a snap to get the HR20 connected to the home router and I downloaded WMP11 for my XP machine with no problems - now I can see photos and hear MP3s.

Two questions I'm not sure were answered having gone through the posts...
1. Any news on when we'll be able to play MPG files from WMP11 to the HR20?
2. Do I still need the phone line connected for my HR20 for PPV, etc?

Thanks to all for your contributions.

[Michael D'Angelo]

HR20 Networking - Video and/or replacing phone?

First, thanks to all for these posts. We're all wired with CAT-5 and so it was a snap to get the HR20 connected to the home router and I downloaded WMP11 for my XP machine with no problems - now I can see photos and hear MP3s.

Two questions I'm not sure were answered having gone through the posts...
1. Any news on when we'll be able to play MPG files from WMP11 to the HR20?
2. Do I still need the phone line connected for my HR20 for PPV, etc?

Thanks to all for your contributions.

:welcome_s to DBStalk

I am not sure about your first question. But for you second question you will need a phone line connected if you would like to order PPV from the remote. You can order them online or by phone without a phone line connected. I am not sure if DIRECTV will ever add it to where you can order them with the remote if you are network. You will need the phone connected if you would like to use CID. I also believe you need to have it connected for the game lounge but I am not sure about that.

[Milominderbinder2]

...
1. Any news on when we'll be able to play MPG files from WMP11 to the HR20?
...
:welcome_s to DBStalk

I play MPG's through WMP11 all of the time. Lots of people do. Have you tried the instructions here:

HR20: Networking with Windows Media Player (WMP) (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=74426)

- Craig

[bigz]

[
Under the 17e I can no longer play Music using Twonky Media- there is now an "x" in front of all the songs ---on Media player it is OK - a check mark.
Pictures are OK on twonky but not on Media Player.

Can anyone help to resolve.

[bikzo]

thanks to all for posting some great stuff.

i hooked up mp11 originally without any problems whatsover...got the library sharing, saw the device, saw my folders, etc etc.

however i did (and continue to) experience problems with the server "dropping out" after only a few songs.

does anyone know where i can find help with this issue? i've seen in around other threads but have yet been unable to find a resolution.

thanks.

[kitchj]

:welcome_s to DBStalk

I play MPG's through WMP11 all of the time. Lots of people do. Have you tried the instructions here:


- Craig

Hmmm.... I didn't think video was supported? I thought you could only view pics and listen to music.

[Michael D'Angelo]

Hmmm.... I didn't think video was supported? I thought you could only view pics and listen to music.

:welcome_s to DBSTalk

At this point only music and photo's are supported with media share. At some point probably later this year DIRECTV will add in support for video with media share.

[Button Pusher]

I finally got my HR20 to show up as an unknown device on WMP11. I wasn't getting anything to show up after I checked the media share box and clicked ok.Than I used boilerjt's post and used the xbox link to "start" the "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Services".Than I got the 1068 error and had to make sure the other two services were started and it that was it,my HR20 showed up.Thanks boilerjt for that thread.You saved me alot of time.I suggest everyone who is still having a problem with WMP11 to make sure you follow the link to the xbox forums and give those directions a try.It worked for me.
__________________

[DHardmanJr]

I used a WGA54G for the HR20 and was able to connect to the network and internet. Still, WMP 11 would just hang for about 20 seconds when I clicked on the Ok button after clicking the "Share my media" checkbox under Tools->Options->Library->Configure Sharing and just come back to the dialog without ever going to the next screen or showing the HR20.

Basically, you just need to enable and start the 'SSDP Discovery Service' if it is disabled. Then, enable and start the ''Universal Plug and Play Device Host' service if it is disabled.

After doing the above, WMP found the HR20 as an Unknown device, and then the music/picture sharing worked fine on the HR20.

Dave

[Baconbeard]

I used a WGA54G for the HR20 and was able to connect to the network and internet. Still, WMP 11 would just hang for about 20 seconds when I clicked on the Ok button after clicking the "Share my media" checkbox under Tools->Options->Library->Configure Sharing and just come back to the dialog without ever going to the next screen or showing the HR20.

Basically, you just need to enable and start the 'SSDP Discovery Service' if it is disabled. Then, enable and start the ''Universal Plug and Play Device Host' service if it is disabled.

After doing the above, WMP found the HR20 as an Unknown device, and then the music/picture sharing worked fine on the HR20.

Dave

How do you enable the two items you mention above?

[RevelationTravis]

This post is a little bit delayed, but a couple pages ago (on page 8), I had made couple of posts regarding some problems I had connecting my HR20-100 to my router. In the end, I was never able to get it to work (I had tried everything under the sun). And then, one day (just before I got the white GUI), it started working. On it's own. I didn't do anything I hadn't already tried. So if anybody is having any problems like I had...well, I don't know what I did to fix it. I know that's not much help. But I learned a lot about networking along the way and I figured I should post a follow up just say that it works now. Now, if only I could somehow make the Media Share work like I want it to...

[Button Pusher]

How do you enable the two items you mention above?

Baconbeard,did you try what was posted in this link posted by boilerjt?

http://forums.xbox.com/1/7738641/ShowPost.aspx#7738641

[jdeaton]

OK, I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong. I can access Music and Photos on my HR20-700 and on my PS3. Both are connected via a Linksys router, a Linksys Home Plug AV set up and a Linksys 4 port switch. Each shows up as an unknown device in Windows Media 11. Thanks Milominderbinder2, for all the great help documentation.

I just received my new HR20-100. This unit is hard wired to the router and shows connected to both the network and the internet. But… I cannot seem to get Windows Media 11 to recognize a third “unknown device” and thus no Music and Photos on the HR20-100 menu. Is there any way to force XP and WM11 to scan for a new media device?

[Baconbeard]

Baconbeard,did you try what was posted in this link posted by boilerjt?

http://forums.xbox.com/1/7738641/ShowPost.aspx#7738641

Yes, I did everything in the instructions, and WMP still won't find it. My HR20 says it is connected to the network and internet, and my router sees the HR20. What gives?

[jdeaton]

Never mind. Its all good. A menu reset made the HR20-100 show up in WM11.

[Spanky_Partain]

Yes, I did everything in the instructions, and WMP still won't find it. My HR20 says it is connected to the network and internet, and my router sees the HR20. What gives?

It really sounds more like a firewall setting or something like that. You may want to try turning off ALL firewall(s) and antivirus software, etc...
One persons response was that the McAfee stuff had to be removed to get WMP up and going and just turning it off did not do it.

There are more steps that can be done in this thread to help and try.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631

The above link includes the instructions that button pusher provided in his link.

[Baconbeard]

It really sounds more like a firewall setting or something like that. You may want to try turning off ALL firewall(s) and antivirus software, etc...
One persons response was that the McAfee stuff had to be removed to get WMP up and going and just turning it off did not do it.

There are more steps that can be done in this thread to help and try.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631

The above link includes the instructions that button pusher provided in his link.


I have McAfee, so I will see what I can do. I tried disabling all firewalls, and that did not do the trick.

[Spanky_Partain]

I have McAfee, so I will see what I can do. I tried disabling all firewalls, and that did not do the trick.

You may have run into the same thing. Do you have access to another computer that you could use to play with? That might be an easier solution.

[jkkbishop]

Yes, I did everything in the instructions, and WMP still won't find it. My HR20 says it is connected to the network and internet, and my router sees the HR20. What gives?

I may have missed part of the discussion where you answered this, but are you sure the UPnP service is running on your computer? I wrestled with what sounds like the same problem for a while but then remembered that I had disabled the service. To check, right-click on My Computer, select Manage, then expand Service and Applications, click on Services, and scroll down to Universal Plug and Play. If it's set to manual, you can right click on it and select Start. If it's disabled, right click on it, go to Properties, and change the Startup Type to Manual, then start it.

Just know that there is malware out there that uses UPnP to cause mischief. I personally only enabled it long enough to know that that fixed the problem, then disabled it again. I use TVersity for sharing.

[Baconbeard]

I may have missed part of the discussion where you answered this, but are you sure the UPnP service is running on your computer? I wrestled with what sounds like the same problem for a while but then remembered that I had disabled the service. To check, right-click on My Computer, select Manage, then expand Service and Applications, click on Services, and scroll down to Universal Plug and Play. If it's set to manual, you can right click on it and select Start. If it's disabled, right click on it, go to Properties, and change the Startup Type to Manual, then start it.

Just know that there is malware out there that uses UPnP to cause mischief. I personally only enabled it long enough to know that that fixed the problem, then disabled it again. I use TVersity for sharing.


Still no dice. Maybe I just need to try Twonky or TVersity.

[mx6bfast]

I have been using XP with WMP 11 and this is the issue I am usually having.

I have my pc setup to go into standby after 3 hours. Even after I wake my pc up my HR20 will still not show Pictures and Music. I have to reboot the pc for it to finally show up. Then once I do all is well.

When my pc wakes up how long should it take M&P to show up on my HR20? Am I just not giving it enough time to display? Shouldn’t the HR20 still be able to see the files if the system is in standy?

[Spanky_Partain]

I have been using XP with WMP 11 and this is the issue I am usually having.

I have my pc setup to go into standby after 3 hours. Even after I wake my pc up my HR20 will still not show Pictures and Music. I have to reboot the pc for it to finally show up. Then once I do all is well.

When my pc wakes up how long should it take M&P to show up on my HR20? Am I just not giving it enough time to display? Shouldn’t the HR20 still be able to see the files if the system is in standy?

It really sounds like you have some questions that could be turned into a test case. Would it be possible for you to try these things and report the results? I do not recall anyone using the standby function and asking these questions.

Good stuff!

[mx6bfast]

It really sounds like you have some questions that could be turned into a test case. Would it be possible for you to try these things and report the results? I do not recall anyone using the standby function and asking these questions.

Good stuff!
I didn't get the new message email so I'm just now checking this.

Yeah I can do it. Where is the thread that I can contribute to, or do I need to create a new one? Which steps should I do?

[Spanky_Partain]

I didn't get the new message email so I'm just now checking this.

Yeah I can do it. Where is the thread that I can contribute to, or do I need to create a new one? Which steps should I do?

Start a new thread in this forum. This is a great place for that type of information.