Would you rather have more HD channels or Tivo? [Archive]

jbrasure

01-18-07, 01:09 AM

This is an awfully pointed "poll" , but what exactly is so fun about a Tivo?

Yes, it's a very pointed poll. I apologize for that. However, I think it reflects reality for many of us. I'm basically trying to send a message to DirecTV: "Stop giving us new features and channels, and give us reliability instead."

Regarding the "fun" Tivo, I really do have an enjoyable time using my Tivo. It comes in an attractively packaged box, has a cute animated Tivo character, makes cartoonish sounds while using it (which can be turned off), and is a general pleasure to use.

On the other hand, when I turn on my HR20 I always think, "What annoyance will I encoutner tonight?" Right now my HR20 is up in the bedoom where I rarely use it, and the HD Tivo is downstairs. I gave up my local HD channels because my Tivo is so much better.

macEarl

01-18-07, 01:22 AM

This is an awfully pointed "poll" , but what exactly is so fun about a Tivo?

How slowly the guide paged on my 10-250 was fun. Then there was the ever-popular effect of hitting the guide to see if it's time to check out what's on while you were watching a recording only to find yourself ejected to the live-tv side of things - that was a knee slapper. :D

I understand all too well the concept about choosing reliability over features. But if you're suggesting that it's true that D* is so small that they can't manage both, then we'd all better jump ship right now.

I feel the pain - my HR20 experience is not nearly as reliable as the DTivos I've had. But all of us with ex-wives can attest to the definition of fun not being set in concrete. To paraphrase Woody Allen, I'm as crazy as a guy who thinks he's a chicken for putting up with some of these problems - but I guess I'm doing it because I need the eggs.

Good luck to us all on our HR20s.

jbrasure

01-18-07, 01:38 AM

Here's an example of why Tivo is so fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSVAvLPmxoc

The DirecTivo was why I became a DirecTV customer. Now that Tivo and DirecTV have gotten a divorce, I'm like a kid choosing between two parents. Do I go with Mom Tivo, or Dad HR20. I think Mom's gonna win.

macEarl

01-18-07, 01:52 AM

Here's an example of why Tivo is so fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSVAvLPmxoc

Nice babe.

The DirecTivo was why I became a DirecTV customer.

Me too.

Now that Tivo and DirecTV have gotten a divorce, I'm like a kid choosing between two parents. Do I go with Mom Tivo, or Dad HR20. I think Mom's gonna win.

Don't know if you've noticed, but since the divorce, Mom's hanging with a different kind of guy - and she seems to like the lobster.

bmachia

01-18-07, 04:37 AM

After only a month, I'm thinking its time to throw up my hands and beg for my stable Tivo.

joekun

01-18-07, 05:12 AM

I don't really see much difference between the Tivo and HR20 interface so it doesn't really make much difference to me. Personally I want an HD ReplayTV but that wasn't an option.

MartyS

01-18-07, 05:37 AM

redrocker

01-18-07, 05:49 AM

TiVo & DLB :)

nhlfan79

01-18-07, 05:51 AM

I don't understand the poll. Those of us who hung onto our HR10-250's when we upgraded to the HR20 already have option #2.

upnorth

01-18-07, 06:37 AM

Cannot take part in the poll as my HR20 is already reliable so bring on the 30 new HD channels.;)

Blitz68

01-18-07, 06:43 AM

Cannot take part in the poll as my HR20 is already reliable so bring on the 30 new HD channels.;)

Me to. LOVE the HR20 :D

I have 2 HR10-250's and they are in rooms no one uses, just were they are the most usefull.

houskamp

01-18-07, 06:55 AM

Bring On The New Channels !!!

Stuart Sweet

01-18-07, 07:06 AM

I want both. I don't think it's unreasonable given that new channels will come with the new satellites and have nothing to do with the firmware.

hasan

01-18-07, 07:06 AM

I'm curious, which would you rather have?

1) A frustrating and unreliable HR20 with 30 additiional HD channels.

2) Or a fun and reliable Tivo with only the existing HD channels.

or:

3) Another agenda driven poll with false choices.

wingrider01

01-18-07, 07:22 AM

I'm curious, which would you rather have?

1) A frustrating and unreliable HR20 with 30 additiional HD channels.

2) Or a fun and reliable Tivo with only the existing HD channels.

Given the biased incorrect strawpoll, neither, and with the changes in pricing and packages it will probably be neither for me.

larryl

01-18-07, 07:27 AM

The results are fairly interesting so far.

ajwillys

01-18-07, 07:36 AM

I voted for the HR20, but I'm reading the question as "HR20 with 30 additional HD channels". I suppose if I had a "frustrating and unreliable" HR20 I might vote the other way. Maybe its just the twice-daily reboots of my R15 that make me think the HR20 is awesome, but I haven't had much problem with it.

Now give me MRV (Multi-Room Viewing) which DirecTiVo never had any way and I'd vote for TiVo all the way.

ItsMeJTO

01-18-07, 08:00 AM

TIVO, no contest.

tunce

01-18-07, 08:02 AM

HD! I have had very little problems with my HR20. So it is not frustrating to me!!

MizzouTiger

01-18-07, 08:16 AM

I would prefer to have more HD offerings. I really haven't had any problems with my HR20 yet (only had 1 week today so far), but I'm sure they will come. I do think D* will fix the issues and it will become a reliable and stable unit -- just hope it happens sooner than later from the postings I have been reading. I have a D* R10 DirecTivo receiver which I have had for the last 3 years. I do like it and a lot of the features it has. I wouldn't necessarily say the HR20 is inferior to it (in terms of what it is supposed to do, not what it is actually doing at this point in time), I just think that it will take some time to get used to the differences. We were originally with E* for 7 years and had one of their original DVR units -- it was a plain jane model and acted more like a glorified VCR in terms of scheduling recordings. When we switched to D* we got the DirecTivo unit, and we weren't too pleased with it right away in terms of the menuing, how to select recordings, etc. But after a few weeks, you get used to it and it becomes the norm. It's the same thing switching to the HR20. I still have my R10 unit and use it as a backup for all of our Season Passes -- excuse me, Series Links. I didn't stumble upon this forum until after I had called D* and ordered the HR20. I have to admit, had I found this forum first and read the postings, I probably would have waited until this summer to take the HD leap. Oh well, I'm there now and I just hope that things continue to get better.:)

lman

01-18-07, 08:40 AM

I would settle for dual live buffers on my HR20.

cbearnm

01-18-07, 10:00 AM

I voted for keeping my unfrustating and reliable HR 20 and adding HD channels.

I have no major complaints with the HR20 since mid December and prefer the speed of programming and season passes over the TiVo. Sure, some of the GUI is not as nice and I do miss the TiVo style guide listings, but it's no big whoop.

And I still have my 10-250, so it's the best of both worlds.

bwaldron

01-18-07, 10:01 AM

When the new channels arrive, that's exactly the choice that I will have to make with my HR10 -- do I swap it for another HR20, or keep it and miss the new channels? I certainly hope that the HR20 will be working better at that point. If it is, I'll swap my HR10 for an HR20 as my main DVR.

However, there is absolutely no reason that D* should not be delivering both. More content and a reliable DVR. Doesn't have to be Tivo, it just has to work.

Doug Brott

01-18-07, 10:05 AM

I'm curious, which would you rather have?

1) A frustrating and unreliable HR20 with 30 additiional HD channels.

2) Or a fun and reliable Tivo with only the existing HD channels.

Funny :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Considering my "frustrating and unreliable HR20" has performed generally well and more recently very well, I had to go with the HR20. Oh, and it hasn't frustrated me nearly as much as the SLOW TiVo has. The HR20, in fact, has been more fun as I have never posted this much, this quickly in my life.

mjs31

01-18-07, 10:08 AM

Yes, it's a very pointed poll. I apologize for that. However, I think it reflects reality for many of us. I'm basically trying to send a message to DirecTV: "Stop giving us new features and channels, and give us reliability instead."

Regarding the "fun" Tivo, I really do have an enjoyable time using my Tivo. It comes in an attractively packaged box, has a cute animated Tivo character, makes cartoonish sounds while using it (which can be turned off), and is a general pleasure to use.

On the other hand, when I turn on my HR20 I always think, "What annoyance will I encoutner tonight?" Right now my HR20 is up in the bedoom where I rarely use it, and the HD Tivo is downstairs. I gave up my local HD channels because my Tivo is so much better.

Mine is very reliable...bring on the new channels. Although I would think about my old Ultimate TV if it had HD ability :-)

hdtvfan0001

01-18-07, 10:11 AM

I was going to vote, but couldn't find a response using these 2 limited and obviously heavily-slanted choices. :nono2:

Doug Brott

01-18-07, 10:13 AM

I was going to vote, but couldn't find a response using these 2 limited and obviously heavily-slanted choices. :nono2:

It's ok. 76% of the people here in this HR20 forum have picked the crappy HR20 with more HD channels. Go figure. :D

houskamp

01-18-07, 10:15 AM

picked my ok hr20 and more HD..

brittonx

01-18-07, 10:17 AM

I can't vote in this because my HR-20 is very fun and stable and I want more HD channels (Sci-Fi, HGTV, TLC, etc...)

Herdfan

01-18-07, 10:24 AM

I don't understand the poll. Those of us who hung onto our HR10-250's when we upgraded to the HR20 already have option #2.

My thoughts as well. I have my HR10's and stable OTA, so bring on the HD.

La Push Commercial Codman

01-18-07, 10:24 AM

:) What would be cool thing, is if DirecTV HR20-700 was capable of recording programs we miss, with a online download, like going to websites, and downloading programing. This would be a cool way to record those missed shows of CSI, LOST AND OTHER SHOWS.. Ofcourse, it maybe TIVO'S series 3 hd tuner and DVR. Maybe download is appealing? We can ask DirecTV about that ability. I betcha The National Association of Broadcasters go belly up over downloaded programing. What do you think?

brittonx

01-18-07, 10:27 AM

It's ok. 76% of the people here in this HR20 forum have picked the crappy HR20 with more HD channels. Go figure. :D

It's easy to figure out. This poll's results are aligning with all of the other attempts to have a poll show that the HR20 is bad. The results are showing that 75+% of the people are happy enough with their HR20. One of these days the non-majority who are having serious problems will realize just that. They are in the minority.

That said...
Are some HR20 users having serious problems and are extremely frustrated?: YES
Are "most" HR20 users having serious problems?: NO (if you disagree, show me a poll or other data to prove your point. Rants in forums are not proof)
Should D* take the problems very seriously and correct them?: YES, Absolutely!!
Is the ranting useful?: Certainly. It allows people to express their frustrations and helps ensure D* remembers they still need to do something about the percentage of the HR20s that are having serious problems.

Have a nice day!:D

HolmesCo

01-18-07, 10:34 AM

This seems to be assuming that the tivo box is reliable. Everything I have heard is contrary to that. It has stability problems too yes? If so, the poll is baseless. And given the slanted choices, its pretty baseless anyway.:lol:

hdtvfan0001

01-18-07, 10:38 AM

It's ok. 76% of the people here in this HR20 forum have picked the crappy HR20 with more HD channels. Go figure. :D
All 84 of them.... :D
This seems to be assuming that the tivo box is reliable. Everything I have heard is contrary to that. It has stability problems too yes?
Yes, and for some time.

This poll is kinda like the choice between being shot or hung - the net results are planned and the same.

HolmesCo

01-18-07, 10:47 AM

All 84 of them.... :D

Yes, and for some time.

This poll is kinda like the choice between being shot or hung - the net results are planned and the same.

The poll reminds me of two old joke questons somebody told me long ago

Do you walk to work or carry your lunch?

Is it hotter in the summer than it is in the city?

:D No logical choice answer for either question

La Push Commercial Codman

01-18-07, 10:56 AM

:) If alot of us would kick ourselves, we couldn't use watching Starz in hd, without MOMS 3D THX glasses, we might have to pray and hope DirecTV solves it problems, with Hr20-700. Other wise, I am getting a free TIVO 3 hd unit. The dang unit requires a phone line, DirecTV HR20-700 does not require a phone line.. I would stick with the hr20-700, by all means. But since I am a lifetime member at TIVO. I will get a free TIVO SERIES 3 HD UNIT..:)

dscott72

01-18-07, 11:52 AM

I honestly don't see why D* can't offer both the HR10 (or an integrated unit that will pull MPEG4) and the HR20. There are many customers who came to D* because of the integrated Tivo units. Some of which who are now deciding whether to leave D* because of the switch to MPEG4 and no integrated box that . And on the other note, there are those that like the HR20 and could care less about an integrated D*/Tivo unit. I myself am on the fence. Even more so since I work for the local cable company. The high def service is for the moment, equal to what D* is offering, but I know of no plans for any massive additions in the upcoming year. My main reason for at least now leaning towards Tivo is that tivo will record shows it thinks I will like not just those that are on a season pass. Now if the HR20 could do something equivelant, and was stable, I would consider making the jump during the upcoming year.

Bay CIty

01-18-07, 12:04 PM

The poll reminds me of two old joke questons somebody told me long ago

Do you walk to work or carry your lunch?

Is it hotter in the summer than it is in the city?

:D No logical choice answer for either question
My answers below

1. I carry my lunch while walking to work
2. it is hotter in the summer, than the city in the winter

let me add a 3rd choice

3. My Tivo is smarter that my hr-20 because It can record shows it thinks I want to watch (Suggestion) and my hr-20 won`t record shows that I do want to watch (Series Link)

bonscott87

01-18-07, 12:13 PM

I honestly don't see why D* can't offer both the HR10 (or an integrated unit that will pull MPEG4) and the HR20.

They have no contract with Tivo to offer such boxes. The HR10 has been made for over a year now. SD DirecTivos have been made now for nearly 2 years.

jaybee

01-18-07, 12:22 PM

How about adding "the frustrating and unreliable Tivo" to the selections? Many people are not happy with the HR10-250 over the last few months. I would say that the HR10 and HR20 are running close on upsetting their users. My HR10 hasn't been fun for some time now.

jbrasure

01-18-07, 12:28 PM

I was going to vote, but couldn't find a response using these 2 limited and obviously heavily-slanted choices. :nono2:

Unfortunately it's the EXACT choice that I'm having to make right now.

wmschultz

01-18-07, 12:41 PM

Unfortunately it's the EXACT choice that I'm having to make right now.

I concur.

I vote for no more one sided useless polls.

macEarl

01-18-07, 12:44 PM

I concur.

I vote for no more one sided useless polls.

If a bad Woody Allen impression doesn't kill a tr^H^Hpoll, nothing will.

marty45714

01-18-07, 12:54 PM

Well, looks like you are in the minority! Bring on the channels, baby!!!

Yes, it's a very pointed poll. I apologize for that. However, I think it reflects reality for many of us. I'm basically trying to send a message to DirecTV: "Stop giving us new features and channels, and give us reliability instead."

Regarding the "fun" Tivo, I really do have an enjoyable time using my Tivo. It comes in an attractively packaged box, has a cute animated Tivo character, makes cartoonish sounds while using it (which can be turned off), and is a general pleasure to use.

On the other hand, when I turn on my HR20 I always think, "What annoyance will I encoutner tonight?" Right now my HR20 is up in the bedoom where I rarely use it, and the HD Tivo is downstairs. I gave up my local HD channels because my Tivo is so much better.

jbrasure

01-18-07, 02:25 PM

I concur.

I vote for no more one sided useless polls.

Obviously my poll shows that I'm dissatisifed with the HR20. However, it's not useless or one sided. It's reality. It's a choice that myself and several dissatisfied HR20 customers must make today. It's a choice I wish I didn't have to make.

I think the results are interesting: 75% of respondents said they would rather have an unreliable HR20 and more HD channels. With that in mind, I can see why things are the way they are. DirecTV knows that adding more HD channels in their highest priority, even if quality has to suffer.

I could have added two more choices to the poll:
3. A well functioning HR20 with 30 additional HD channels.
4. A well functioning Tivo with 30 additional HD channels.

However, adding those choices doesn't reflect reality for many of us.

jbrasure

01-18-07, 02:27 PM

Well, looks like you are in the minority! Bring on the channels, baby!!!

Yep, I'm in the minority. Darn it!

However, if there is a 25% dissatisfaction rate, then DirecTV should be made aware of it.

Doug Brott

01-18-07, 02:35 PM

I could have added two more choices to the poll:
3. A well functioning HR20 with 30 additional HD channels.
4. A well functioning Tivo with 30 additional HD channels.

However, adding those choices doesn't reflect reality for many of us.

Hmm. I would have quickly chosen #3 above. As it was, I decided to choose your #1 since it was the only viable option.

aaronwt

01-18-07, 02:52 PM

I'd rather have the TiVo. that's why I'll probably be leaving DirecTV later this year. the only reason I have to keep direcTv right now is the HDNet channels since Comcast doesn't offer them. But I'll run my HR10-250 boxes concurrently with my S3 boxes until the end of May, although I'll probably sell one of the HR10-250 boxes before then.

Monty23

01-18-07, 02:54 PM

Until the HR20 is as reliable as my Tivo's I'll always vote with the Tivo

Knon2000

01-18-07, 03:02 PM

I could have added two more choices to the poll:
3. A well functioning HR20 with 30 additional HD channels.
4. A well functioning Tivo with 30 additional HD channels.

However, adding those choices doesn't reflect reality for many of us.

Actually, items 1 and 2 and 3 would reflect reality for us, but 4 is not, since it is simply not possible. A more useful item 4 would be:

4. A fustrating and unreliable HR10

Surely you are aware of the problems that they are having as well, are you not? I personally have both, and I can attest to the fact that the HR10's in my house are less than perfect, actually, far from it.

marty45714

01-18-07, 03:03 PM

Yep, I'm in the minority. Darn it!

However, if there is a 25% dissatisfaction rate, then DirecTV should be made aware of it.

You are right and if DLB meant as much to me as it does to you, I would want to "shout it from the hilltops" myself. Good luck with however you decide to handle this next. I sincerely mean that.
-Scott

Knon2000

01-18-07, 03:07 PM

I think that people that are touting the Series 3 are forgetting one major thing. The subscription to it is far from cheap. Add that to the fact that it will not directly interface with a Direct TV reciever, you have a non-starter on my part. HD content is a must have, and if I had to choose between cable or DTV, DTV would win every time.
Understand that I am heavily biased by the cable company that we have in out town. If I had a quality cable service, it may lead to a different result.

bonscott87

01-18-07, 03:56 PM

Obviously my poll shows that I'm dissatisifed with the HR20. However, it's not useless or one sided. It's reality. It's a choice that myself and several dissatisfied HR20 customers must make today. It's a choice I wish I didn't have to make.

I think the results are interesting: 75% of respondents said they would rather have an unreliable HR20 and more HD channels. With that in mind, I can see why things are the way they are. DirecTV knows that adding more HD channels in their highest priority, even if quality has to suffer.

I could have added two more choices to the poll:
3. A well functioning HR20 with 30 additional HD channels.
4. A well functioning Tivo with 30 additional HD channels.

However, adding those choices doesn't reflect reality for many of us.

Well, here's your problem. Adding new HD channels has *nothing* to do with the HR20 or it's stability or Tivo or any receivers or anything else really. They are completely separate things that have nothing to do with each other (other then you will need an HR20 to get these new HD channels).

It's like you're trying to say that the tens of thousands of people working at DirecTV (sales, sat engineers, programming guys, etc.) should all drop what their doing and work on the HR20. Doesn't make much sense.

john18

01-18-07, 05:58 PM

I don't really see much difference between the Tivo and HR20 interface so it doesn't really make much difference to me. Personally I want an HD ReplayTV but that wasn't an option.

I miss my Replays, both of em.

DblD_Indy

01-18-07, 06:15 PM

The other day I was in the back bedroom where my old non HD DirecTV Tivo was and caught up on some old programming that had been recorded.

After my frustrations with trick plays on the HR20, and not having touched a TIVO since Thanksgiving day, I personally wish I had my TIVO back.

Most of my HD watching is on networks or the NFL ticket... don't need another 30 channels of stuff that I've already seen. I want a reliable DVR system with all the bells and whistles that don't make me wonder what's going to happen when I push the DVR Control buttons.

But, Marty D*TV will certainly dedicate some of those new HD channels to fun things like home shopping, cbn's and the every popular HD PORN! (if I went way right I had to go way left!)

I have made numerous comparisons to D*TV and M$crosoft but the big M seems much, much, much smarter now that I have read this quote about the new O/S 'Vista' and Office 2007 via download.

"Not that most PC users are apt to try it. Mannion says downloading Vista and Office '07 will likely appeal primarily to what Microsoft's market researchers call "super-engaged" customers -- the 15% of PC users who think nothing of cracking open the computer case for an upgrade, trying new technology, and then blogging about it or telling friends. Those customers are "very evangelical," he adds. "

Like duh! and so are the same techies that bought into the TIVO lifestyle and the same people who HAD to have TIVO when it first came out if they could and if they could not have it right away celebrated the day that they could get it with D*TV. And then it became a must to get HD TV in the house those who ran to D*TV for an upgrade of their TIVO to HD and got stuck with this thing.

Seriously how could have D*TV been so stupid to put out a half baked product and think we would be quite and "wait" for it to straighten out over MONTHS, and dump some of the most loved features of TIVO for some "cool" other stuff that may/might work in the future.

I for one could not give a crap if my Tivo, replacement.

1) Ever plays a song!
2) Ever shows pictures from my PC!
3) Ever downloads a movie!
4) Ever plays a game!
5)or any of the other features a HR20-700 may do.

The only thing I might think would be cool would be the ablilty to move "the office" to my laptop and it looks like this is not going to happen either.

I got a great game system, Xbox 360 and yes I don't care if it plays songs or downloads movie, It plays kick ass games and that is what i got it for.

I got a great stereo to play tunes and that is what it does and it does it well.

I am proud to be one of the ones that say, less HD and more TIVO! So instead of using my/our 24 month commitment to finance additional HD, how about D*TV finances a little more programing or swallows it's pride and goes back to TIVO and begs them for a TIVO OS for this box send us a pretty little sticker and push it out with a nice note of apology.

Full Vista article: http://www.informationweek.com/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196901658

chrisfowler99

01-18-07, 06:31 PM

Try checking out the results of this poll:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=75177

bwaldron

01-18-07, 06:53 PM

I miss my Replays, both of em.

Me too.

Sah

01-18-07, 07:35 PM

Seriously how could have D*TV been so stupid to put out a half baked product and think we would be quite and "wait" for it to straighten out over MONTHS, and dump some of the most loved features of TIVO for some "cool" other stuff that may/might work in the future.

I for one could not give a crap if my Tivo, replacement.

1) Ever plays a song!
2) Ever shows pictures from my PC!
3) Ever downloads a movie!
4) Ever plays a game!
5)or any of the other features a HR20-700 may do.

Amen! And how about improving the quality of the existing HD (Lite) channels (including the locals) before adding any more.

BobV

01-18-07, 07:40 PM

More HD channels.

My only beef is paying extra for the few HD channels we have now.

Whats the price going to be when we have 30 or more?????:mad:

S. DiThomas

01-18-07, 08:07 PM

TIVO, no contest.

Yep, stable box then more HD. Even though I love HD still prefer stable box before HD.

Oh that sound, that bip, boop. Drives me nuts. It's like a siren wisper compared with the HR-20 silent gauggernaut.

Why does the lady in the TIVO video have a ragtime outfit - it certainly does not fit...

I would love to see D* get a THX approval on any of their products - good thing THX does not approve software/OSes.

La Push Commercial Codman

01-18-07, 09:52 PM

Sounds to me, like I am screwed and all of you are pissed off with your provider. Yea, prices our going up, but dang, wouldn't You rather be able to record your favorite PORN program on DirecTV, without a fricken phone line for TIVO HD.. I sure see my advantage.. I may piss myself off, over super high DirecTV prices.. D* I do believe has bugs , but unplugging unit was a problem. I just hope the HR20-700 will have its advantages to going on line at myspace.com and then use hard-drive to record 24 commercial..:)

mfrost

01-18-07, 10:05 PM

I'm very happy with my HR20 so bring on the channels.

S. DiThomas

01-18-07, 11:44 PM

With those poll numbers D* can distract the masses with NEW HD channels and keep this non working box to record them "somtimes".

Come on - people really voted for more HD vs DVR reliability? That is shocking. But the boys in corpoate at D* are licking their chops... Silly subscribers...we will distract them with new programing and they will forget all about the DVR bugs.

houskamp

01-18-07, 11:51 PM

tzphotos.com

01-19-07, 09:21 AM

I don't really see much difference between the Tivo and HR20 interface so it doesn't really make much difference to me. Personally I want an HD ReplayTV but that wasn't an option.

I second this. I would love to see a new HD ReplayTV for DirecTV!

DawgLink

01-19-07, 09:52 AM

Well hell, I don't know...I voted for the 30+ HD channels but I damn well need a reliable one as well.

I download a LOT of shows per week and need to watch them to keep my sanity.

But I also want a lot more channels in HD

So...um...51/49 in favor of more channels :)

Monty23

01-19-07, 10:53 AM

What's the point of more channels that won't record or play back reliably???

macEarl

01-19-07, 10:59 AM

What's the point of this thread?

iceman2a

01-19-07, 12:03 PM

I'm supprised the poll is this close! I figured 98% to 2% in favor of HD! ;)

UncD2000

01-19-07, 12:22 PM

I'll take the 30 channels as my HR20 behaves pretty well. I have a 10-250 as well. Not a big Tivo fan, but I do wish the HR20 had dual buffers.

bonscott87

01-19-07, 01:02 PM

Amen! And how about improving the quality of the existing HD (Lite) channels (including the locals) before adding any more.

They can't.

Thus why the 2 new sats going up this year. They might as well put something else on on that bandwidth other then just the current channels. ;)

eengert

01-19-07, 01:12 PM

All I know is that over the past 3 months my HR10 has missed many recordings and rebooted on it's own many times while my HR20 has not missed a single recording (both are set to record the exact same programs) and has locked up only one time. Therefore, my HR10 Tivo has been demoted to an unreliable backup and my HR20 is now the family's primary source of television programming. So there is no answer in this poll that I can choose. I DO want many, many more HD channels though. I hope that the time is not far off when 99% of what I want to watch is in HD.

GlennDio

01-19-07, 02:53 PM

I'll take the 30 channels as my HR20 behaves pretty well. I have a 10-250 as well. Not a big Tivo fan, but I do wish the HR20 had dual buffers.

I know it isn't as eaasy as hitting the "liveTV" button to bounce between two channels but if you press record on the first go to another channel (I use blue button quickguide) and then press record .. if you then press menu/my playlist and select the other channel you are recording you go the spot you left it at if you go to list and select it I think you go to the beginning and if you select the channel either through the regular or quick guide you go to the Live part of the recording ... back the same way depending on what you want .... I have found this works but clearly isn't as easy as hitting the liveTV button ... BTW when you go into recorded channel the first time make sure you leave at some point other than live I think that causes problems not 100% sure ....