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Dish came out to install this past Thursday, and the installer looked on my balcony and said he'd have to install on the building. He then looked at my lease, in regards to satellite installation, and it says nothing can be mounted to the building. So he pretty much said he couldn't do it.
Well, plenty of people in my apartments have Dish Network. However, all of the dishes I have seen are installed on a vertical wooden post that every balcony has. I didn't mention this to the installer which I regret doing. So I decided to reschedule an install. I specifically asked for a different installer, so I hope I get someone more willing to help.
Another thing that my lease says, that the installer never made it to, is the following: "The signal from the dish must be able to be transmitted to a receiver within the tenant's unit by means of a removable "through the glass" transmitter." The reason for this is there is a sliding glass door. The wall next to it has aluminum siding outside, plus the lease states "installation must be accomplished without drilling holes through walls." I'm surprised anyone has satellite around here. I mean there are dozens of people who have dish and directv around her. I don't get it.
We're gonna head over to the Apartment office to see what they say before our next installation.
Any help would be appreciated as far as what I need to do to get this installed.
Buzzdar
02-10-07, 10:50 AM
i was lucky and i was able to have mine mounted to a patio divider and they used the existing cable that the cable company used the installer just unhooked the cable from the cable box and hooked that end of the cable to the sat dish. if you go to your apt office and sweet talk them maybe they will let you install it esp since u say others there have one too. good luck
Just Be sure you have a southern facing balcony. If your Balcony can not see the southern sky it cant be mounted there.
And flat cable if they won't let the installer drill through walls.
And flat cable if they won't let the installer drill through walls.
Cool, that flat coaxial cable is a sweet idea. Will the installers have that cable, or should I have it handy?
Yes, it's facing the south. There are some trees, however, we're on the top (3rd) floor. I just don't think the installer even considered using the wooden post that connects the balcony floor with the roof. I would've said something but I didn't want to seem like I was telling him how to do his job, when I don't know anything about installing a dish. All I do know is that everyone around here that has dish or directv has there dish mounted on that same wooden post on their balcony.
Thanks for all the replies.
ssmith10pn
02-10-07, 04:36 PM
I have seen plenty wire tied to the rungs of the balcony rail.
dartonviper
02-10-07, 10:24 PM
Be thankful that you live in Alabama, here in minnesota every dish system must be grounded to the house electrical. I have maybe 1 in 20 apartments actually go in.
As far as the flat cable goes. if you use that door, buy a few of them. Sliding doors like to break the cable in them.
ssmith10pn
02-10-07, 11:32 PM
Be thankful that you live in Alabama, here in minnesota every dish system must be grounded to the house electrical. I have maybe 1 in 20 apartments actually go in.
As far as the flat cable goes. if you use that door, buy a few of them. Sliding doors like to break the cable in them.
My apartment is in north Atlanta.
5 story apartment building and almost every apartment has one. I'll have to shoot a picture and post it.
I would've said something but I didn't want to seem like I was telling him how to do his job... Simple, you say "I noticed all the other tenants with satellite have theirs mounted to the posts." To be honest, as he/she were driving in, they're looking to see what others have done....
As for this "removable through the glass transmitter", why don't you ask the management what they mean by that ?? Or ask another resident with satellite what they're using. If many are using the flat coaxial piece, I'd go buy one for the installer as they may or may not carry them. Tell him "management said I have to use one of these to get the cabling inside".
dartonviper
02-11-07, 10:39 AM
Even where I can't do installs because of grounding issues there are alot of self installs done there.
To be honest, as he/she were driving in, they're looking to see what others have done....
That's what surprised me. You have to pass plenty of apartments, with Dish, before arriving at mine. Surely he would've seen how others have theirs installed just by glancing? This is why I want a second opinion.
jarvantgroup
02-11-07, 06:43 PM
That's what surprised me. You have to pass plenty of apartments, with Dish, before arriving at mine. Surely he would've seen how others have theirs installed just by glancing? This is why I want a second opinion.
Maybe he didn't feel like lugging his tools and equipment up to the 3rd floor. Happens quite frequently. I suggest purchasing three or four flat cables depending on your setup. They're about 8 inches long and should be placed through the fixed sliding glass door. If you slide open the door you'll see the brackets at the top and bottom of the fixed door. Usually loosening the screws holding the brackets and giving the fixed door a good tug will give you a few inches to slide the flat cables through. You'll avoid all the constant openings/closing on the cable if it were to be installed though the moving sliding door. :icon_cool
Well the new installer came out. This guy was alot more open to ideas. However, it turns out I'm too close to some pretty massive trees and it would require a roof installation to overcome them. The lease specifically says no roof installation. So that's not gonna happen. Anyways, I feel alot better knowing that it's officially the trees that are giving me problems. Our lease is up at the end of June, so hopefully our next place will have a clear path for Dish Network.
Thanks for all the help.
Well the new installer came out. This guy was alot more open to ideas. However, it turns out I'm too close to some pretty massive trees and it would require a roof installation to overcome them. The lease specifically says no roof installation. So that's not gonna happen. Anyways, I feel alot better knowing that it's officially the trees that are giving me problems. Our lease is up at the end of June, so hopefully our next place will have a clear path for Dish Network.
Thanks for all the help.When you go looking for a new apartment keep in mind the needs of satellite TV so you can get a compatible apt.:)
Dishguy2001
02-12-07, 11:09 PM
When you go looking for a new apartment keep in mind the needs of satellite TV so you can get a compatible apt.:)
Remember do not take the word of the apt renter they lie to a lot of my customers and then it is up to me to make it happen.
By law they may not obstruct you from receiveing any sat signal but it may not be the cheapest or most pleasent route.....It is easier to move!
Remember to be able to see the setting sun from where the dish needs to go.
(2-4hours before sunset)
jmsteffen
02-13-07, 06:03 AM
My sister had the same installation issue at her apartment. The installer put a 5 gallon plastic bucket on her balcony, poured in ready mixed concrete and set a steel mast (pipe) in the bucket. When the cement cured, he mounted the dish to the mast. He did use the flat wire and brought it in through the patio door.
Her only problem comes when there are high winds, which turns the dish off axis. She has had to turn the dish about three times in the past year.
kenglish
02-13-07, 06:46 AM
The landlords [U]could[U] allow one or two dishes to be put on the roof, under their own control, and tie the tenants in to it. That would let them make the decisions, and keep it neat and safe.
The OTARD laws only specify the minimum they have to allow.
If theres a flat roof, or damn close, non pen mounts, held in place with cinder blocks work too. I have actually gang banged a single high def dish on the roof, ran a couple switches into each other, and was able to service up to 12 dual tuners.
http://www.channelplus.com/pdf/manuals/glslink1.pdf
Simple, you say "I noticed all the other tenants with satellite have theirs mounted to the posts." To be honest, as he/she were driving in, they're looking to see what others have done....
As for this "removable through the glass transmitter", why don't you ask the management what they mean by that ?? Or ask another resident with satellite what they're using. If many are using the flat coaxial piece, I'd go buy one for the installer as they may or may not carry them. Tell him "management said I have to use one of these to get the cabling inside".
http://www.channelplus.com/pdf/manuals/glslink1.pdf
Attended some training on this and it only worked on single pane glass. Even then it was extremely difficult to align the two sides of the unit so that it would work. Just want to give a little advice so that people who have only double pane glass (insulated windows) understand why it doesn't work for them. There may be other limitations with Dishpro because of frequency.
ssmith10pn
02-15-07, 10:15 PM
Reminds me of the early cell phone days. :)
Worked fine for me. There is a dual pane model although I have no experience with it. No longer sold by the manufacturer, would have to find one at a dealer or online. Alignment was easy if the directions are followed (red light/green light). I'd still go with flat coax and can't see any application where Glasslink would work but coax wouldn't.
Attended some training on this and it only worked on single pane glass. Even then it was extremely difficult to align the two sides of the unit so that it would work. Just want to give a little advice so that people who have only double pane glass (insulated windows) understand why it doesn't work for them. There may be other limitations with Dishpro because of frequency.
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