lost HD signal with multi switcher

[pbenson1167]

I just installed a 6x8 zinwell multi switcher and now I have no HD signal.

Can anyone help me out?

I connected all 4 lines to the 1st 4 inputs and have the 4 out bound cables on connections 5, 6, 7 and 8. Do I need to start on connections 1-4 outbounnd?

Thanks

Patrick

[lwilli201]

Is the model number of the switch WB68?

[texasbrit]

Your connections seem to be OK. What do you see when you look at the DirecTV test channels 490 thru 494?

And have you lost HD locals or the HD nationals, and if so which ones??

[veryoldschool]

I connected all 4 lines to the 1st 4 inputs and have the 4 out bound cables on connections 5, 6, 7 and 8. Do I need to start on connections 1-4 outbounnd?
Thanks
Patrick
FWIW: my WB68 uses the 1-5 outputs & works.

[litzdog911]

I just installed a 6x8 zinwell multi switcher and now I have no HD signal.

Can anyone help me out?

I connected all 4 lines to the 1st 4 inputs and have the 4 out bound cables on connections 5, 6, 7 and 8. Do I need to start on connections 1-4 outbounnd?

Thanks

Patrick

Why not connect one of those outputs to the multiswitch's Output1 and see if it makes it a difference? It shouldn't make a difference, though.

This system worked fine before you inserted the multiswitch, right?

[pbenson1167]

My system worked fine before the multi switcher (WB 68).

I disconnected it the multi switcher and I got all my HD signals back.

Could the muti switcher be bad? Is it possible that I connected it wrong? I ran the 4 lines from the dish to the first 4 inputs (as described in the directions....do specific cables need to be connected to specific inputs?) then connected the cables going to the receivers on outputs 5, 6, 7 and 8.

thanks

Patrick

[veryoldschool]

My system worked fine before the multi switcher (WB 68).
I disconnected it the multi switcher and I got all my HD signals back.
Could the muti switcher be bad? Is it possible that I connected it wrong? I ran the 4 lines from the dish to the first 4 inputs (as described in the directions....do specific cables need to be connected to specific inputs?) then connected the cables going to the receivers on outputs 5, 6, 7 and 8.
thanks
Patrick
Your "front end" is fine. Change your "back end" to see if the switch is bad or needs to be wired 1,2,3,....

[RobertE]

I just installed a 6x8 zinwell multi switcher and now I have no HD signal.

Can anyone help me out?

I connected all 4 lines to the 1st 4 inputs and have the 4 out bound cables on connections 5, 6, 7 and 8. Do I need to start on connections 1-4 outbounnd?

Thanks

Patrick


Is this on a H-20 or HR-20?

Either way, if you are going to have the WB68 in place, you will need to re-run the satellite setup. On the H-20 it will ask you if you have a 4x4 or 6x8. You will of course need to tell it a 6x8. The HR-20 knows if you are using a 6x8 or the internal 4x4.

Re-run the setup and you'll be fine. Assuming the WB68 isn't bad.

It makes zero difference as to what outputs you use. You can use 1-4, 5-8, the odds, the evens, whatever, doesn't matter.

[harsh]

Why not connect one of those outputs to the multiswitch's Output1 and see if it makes it a difference? It shouldn't make a difference, though.If the WB68 is a passive device, it is likely that it needs power to output 1 to function.

[pbenson1167]

I'm not sure of the model number...but I have both the D* HD receiver and the HD DVR receiver and I lost the HD signal on both of them.

I will try again connecting them and switching the set up info in the menu you suggested (4x4 to 6x8).

thanks

Patrick

[pbenson1167]

If the WB68 is a passive device, it is likely that it needs power to output 1 to function.

It is passive...I can try that also...thanks

[Cerus]

It doesn't matter in which order you connect the lines. The only ones you wont use are Flex Port 1 and 2. It also doesn't matter which outputs you use, the switch receives power from the connected receivers no matter which you use.

[JLucPicard]

I'm not sure of the model number...but I have both the D* HD receiver and the HD DVR receiver and I lost the HD signal on both of them.

I will try again connecting them and switching the set up info in the menu you suggested (4x4 to 6x8).

thanks

Patrick
I was under the impression that there are two multi-switches authroized by D* for use with the 5 LNB dish (I believe these are the only two that work properly) and those are the Zinwell WB68 (6x8) and the Zinwell WB616 (or something like that - it's a 6x16 switch).

If the 6x8 switch you have is not the WB68, that could be a problem as well.

[litzdog911]

I was under the impression that there are two multi-switches authroized by D* for use with the 5 LNB dish (I believe these are the only two that work properly) and those are the Zinwell WB68 (6x8) and the Zinwell WB616 (or something like that - it's a 6x16 switch).

If the 6x8 switch you have is not the WB68, that could be a problem as well.

Correct. Spaun also makes a multiswitch compatible with the 5-LNB dishes, but it's quite expensive. The Zinwell WB68 and WB616 are preferred.

[pbenson1167]

Well I tried it again this evening and everything worked...I think the trick was using the first 4 outputs as that seems to be the only thing I did differently. Thanks for everyones input and help.

Patrick

[Mertzen]

There is also a powered 4*8 switch we can use. But were rarely do.

[budgoo]

As this is my first post on this site, I would like to thank the people responsible for it, and to the many that contribute so much knowledge. I've been helped with decisions on hardware, and "What the deals are and what people are paying." Thanks a bunch.

I found this about the 6x8 zinwell multi switcher:

" • Multiswitch is passive, powered only by the connected satellite receivers.
• Wideband frequency multiswitch: 250-750 Mhz, 950-1450 Mhz, 1650-2150 Mhz
• To be used with AT9 Ku/Ka DIRECTV satellite dish
• No external power required - power to operate switch is dervived from the receiver
• Do not put any terminator on any unused input/output ports of this switch
• Works with all DirecTV receivers and dishes
• Flex Port 1 and 2 are for the international dish only, they will not pass off-air or cable tv signals"---THOUGHT THIS ONE TO BE MOST SIGNIFICANT.

I hope someome will be helped by this. I know I will. After having spoken to 2 techs at D* in anticipation of an installation of the 5LNB dish soon, I knew no more than before I called. I'm a hands on kinda' guy when it comes to these kinds of things. The installer will have to mount and align the dish, and hookup new receivers at the TVs, and his job will be done. I'd just as soon do that too, but..............

[veryoldschool]

Budgoo:

:welcome_s to the forum.

[pbenson1167]

Well I thought it might be too good to be true...but using the 6x8 multiswitcher has cause me to have a very weak HD signal. I get all kinds of pixelation and freeezing in my HD picture (only HD) after a few seconds. If I bypass the multiswitcher...then the picture is great. Had to do this for the race yesterday. I'm hoping that my dish is just a little out of alignment as I have not signal what so ever from the 99 and 103 SATs. A tech from D* is coming out on Saturday to hopefully once and for all fix this problem.

Whew...venting over.

PB

[Mertzen]

Well I thought it might be too good to be true...but using the 6x8 multiswitcher has cause me to have a very weak HD signal. I get all kinds of pixelation and freeezing in my HD picture (only HD) after a few seconds. If I bypass the multiswitcher...then the picture is great. Had to do this for the race yesterday. I'm hoping that my dish is just a little out of alignment as I have not signal what so ever from the 99 and 103 SATs. A tech from D* is coming out on Saturday to hopefully once and for all fix this problem.

Whew...venting over.

PB

Probably a bad switch or not enough power to the switch.

[veryoldschool]

Probably a bad switch or not enough power to the switch.
Since the switch is passive, I would bet on the dish alignment being bad.

[Mertzen]

Since the switch is passive, I would bet on the dish alignment being bad.


But the signal os good sans the switch so that does point to a switch issue.

[veryoldschool]

But the signal os good sans the switch so that does point to a switch issue.
I'm not there so... [and yes a switch could be bad], but the "insertion lost" through the switch could be just enough to knock a poor signal level below the receiver's threshold.