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Doug Brott
07-18-07, 04:53 PM
Thanks Drew and Thanks Steve.
Steve, Congrats to you as well.
Bizarroterl
07-19-07, 11:24 PM
30 second skip.
Add a third market for OTA choices. I live in a Medium size city near 2 other medium size cities. Direct TV does not offer locals in my market. However I can catch HD channels in all three markets with my HR20, however I have to choose only 2 markets as guide will only use 2 zip codes.
And Steve, congrats on the new duties! I know you'll do a great job with it!Steve, Congrats to you as well.Thanks, guys! Should be fun! :)
I've been unable to reliably connect to the site from where I am on vacation, but I am on now and just saw Earl's CE announcement. Looks like some more of our feedback is being addressed! Great news.
/steve
Stuart Sweet
07-20-07, 09:35 AM
Steve, I couldn't imagine a better choice for the Wish list!
Indiana627
07-20-07, 10:05 AM
I have a new one...
Last night we had some heavy downpours during So You Think You Can Dance. I played it back this morning and the status bar showed the orange bar for the entire hour - making me think it had recorded the entire hour and not been effected by the rain. Well once I started watching it, it was obvious portions were missed due to rain. In total, 8 minutes were missed as the end credits rolled at 0:52 of the status bar. I know on the HR10, it's green status bar would not have gone all the way to the right, giving you a clear indication that parts of the show were missing. I'd like to see this work the same on the HR20.
I guess the wishlist item could be:
For a show that's completed recording, the status bar should accurately reflect how much of the show was actually recorded, thus indicating how much (if any) of the show was missed due to rain fade or other issues.
Well, that wording could probably use some work, but I think it gets the idea across.
30 second skip.
+1, yes, please ......:hurah:
Doug Brott
07-20-07, 11:50 AM
I think that there are a few items that can be removed from the Wish List with the latest release. I'm going to leave that to Steve and his first revision of the Wish List, so look forward to the changes in the next couple of weeks.
I have 2 ideas for the wish list - these may have been covered in previous postings but I can't locate them in my searches:
1. I would like the ability to key in a time in minutes and then press the slip or skip forward, and/or the skip back, replay button - and have it go forward or back that exact amount.
Example: Key in 6 skip forward and it will skip forward 6 minutes. Watching a long tape of a sporting event or the best example would be NFL football you can just key in 12 and "slip" and it will skip half time!
I would like this to work in the buffer as well while watching a "live" show. If I turn on the HR20 and it is still on a channel I want to watch I could skip back to the start of a show very easily. Currently I can move back but I have to rewind at 4x only and I have to close my eyes to make sure I miss everything!!!
2. I would like the progress bar to go away faster than it does now - or even be able to turn it off by default
If I am skipping ahead or back it stays up to long and covers important information on the shows I watch (try watching the Tour De France on VS - and it covers the miles left and time that a break or group has) I like to skip ahead and quickly see where I am but it makes it harder when the progress bar covers it.
I am a convert from ReplayTV and they had some of the features above which I loved.
Thanks everyone - I have used this site since January to learn so much
kevinturcotte
07-20-07, 05:07 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but have the HR20 "Clue In" when a recording is missed, for ANY reason. When there's a priority conflict, loss of satellite signal, loss of power, when it first gets the chance, the HR20 attempts to find the same episode/episodes/movie at a later time and record it then. If it can't, it could send a pop-up message saying "This wasn't recorded because (Whatever), and I can't find it at a later time."
2. I would like the progress bar to go away faster than it does now - or even be able to turn it off by default
I would love the 2nd option, and could see DIRECTV some day adding this as a user configurable option. We already have options to speed up the GUIDE and change the duration that the INFO banner appears, so why not the progress bar also? :)
kikkenit2
07-20-07, 08:37 PM
I would like the progress bar to go away faster than it does now - or even be able to turn it off by default.
I agree it stays on way too long and blocks important stats etc. Give us some timing variables 0,1,2,4,stay on maybe?
Folks,
Now let me know what you think.
What additional items do you want on the new HR20 Wish List?
What changes do you want to see to the guidelines?
Thank you for your feedback.
I'm sure I'll raise some chuckles here, or perhaps the ire of some, but IMHO, there is one major absence in this HR-20 receiver and it's abilities.
In all past receivers (I can't speak for other dvrs) there was the ability to *AUTOTUNE*. I don't mean the ability to record a string of different channels at will (without actually changing the channel). The HR-20 has that ability.
Speaking for myself, my family, and I'm sure a bunch of other retired folks (better explained as older), autotune is very important.
For example: On any given day there are 10 channel changes at a specific time to watch programs I watch every day. If the receiver doesn't change to the channel for me I have to go looking for my (written down) channel list and get to the right channel. Change to the news, change to Discovery, change to this, that, and get it right so I don't forget any program.
Yes, I know I can set it up to record a season's worth of programs but I don't want to. Especially with news programs.
There is not much left for entertainment out here but tv and it should be easy, not harder as things get *improved*.
There are programs I want to record, sure, but I want autotune. Is that not possible to do with this receiver in the way of a software upgrade?
If it meant that I'd have to set up my channels to record daily and it would also switch to that channel I'd do that with no problem.
I read somewhere the the older dvr would tell you 2 minutes ahead of a scheduled record on-screen that the program was upcoming and "do I want to switch to that channel".
Doesn't do that with the HR-20.
So, is there any hope in the future?? In the meantime, I'll have to watch my taped-up list to make sure I don't miss anything..
I hope that someone has some actual facts regarding my post.
Racer88
07-21-07, 06:57 PM
Add a third market for OTA choices. I live in a Medium size city near 2 other medium size cities. Direct TV does not offer locals in my market. However I can catch HD channels in all three markets with my HR20, however I have to choose only 2 markets as guide will only use 2 zip codes.
Adding a 3rd market is not the real answer to your problem. The answer is enabling the ability to scan for OTA channels which is SUPPOSED to be a feature of the HR20 as per page 78 of the HR20 manual. This is on the wishlist an has been pretty much since the beginning.:nono2:
Racer88
07-21-07, 07:08 PM
I've missed the auto tune feature since the first day I got a DVR (the R-10). I really don't understand why DVR makers don't believe people would find this useful. It can't be that hard to make it happen.
I'm obviously a NASCAR fan and being so I like to have all the pre-race shows on my TV on race days. I don't however really care about recording it nor do I hardly ever watch the shows in their entirety. Many times I'm doing something else and I want the TV to just tune to those channels and I'll listen to them in the background.
This is on the wishlist already and has been for several weeks now. I seriously don't hold out much hope for it ever seeing the light of day tho.
I've missed the auto tune feature since the first day I got a DVR (the R-10). I really don't understand why DVR makers don't believe people would find this useful. It can't be that hard to make it happen.
This is on the wishlist already and has been for several weeks now.
Thanks for the reply. It helps just knowing that I'm not the only one who misses the feature quite a lot.
tfederov
07-22-07, 10:08 AM
This was talked about a while back, not sure if it was in a thread or a chat...
Correlate the number keys with the letters (ABC=2 DEF=3, etc.) to speed up searching within Media Share.
Indiana627
07-23-07, 06:30 AM
I thought of another new feature: have the current time display in the progress bar so that when you're playing back a recorded show, simply pressing the PLAY button will show you both where you are in the show and the current time. Currently you have to hit PLAY to determine where you are in a show and the INFO to get the current time. I watch TV in nearly dark conditions sometimes and can't see any clocks and it's nice to know the time and where I am in a recording (especially a movie) to determine if I should finish it or throw in the towel and go to bed. There's definitely lots of room on the left side of the progress bar where the D* logo is on the white background to add the clock.
Have the current time display in the progress bar.
Chuck W
07-23-07, 09:57 AM
With the new feature of it always pausing a recording, when swapping to live, I'd like to see an option to stop this from happening and keep the recording going.
I'm using "temporary" recordings to simlulate DLB's. On my Tivo, I'd never really pause one tuner, when swapping to the other. They would both continue running and, if I felt I missed something, I would just rewind to see what I missed. This way I'd always be up to the live action, but would have access to things I missed. The way it is now, I'm constantly having to catch up, to the live action.
SuperTech1
07-23-07, 10:17 AM
I'm sure I'll raise some chuckles here, or perhaps the ire of some, but IMHO, there is one major absence in this HR-20 receiver and it's abilities.
In all past receivers (I can't speak for other dvrs) there was the ability to *AUTOTUNE*. I don't mean the ability to record a string of different channels at will (without actually changing the channel). The HR-20 has that ability.
Speaking for myself, my family, and I'm sure a bunch of other retired folks (better explained as older), autotune is very important.
For example: On any given day there are 10 channel changes at a specific time to watch programs I watch every day. If the receiver doesn't change to the channel for me I have to go looking for my (written down) channel list and get to the right channel. Change to the news, change to Discovery, change to this, that, and get it right so I don't forget any program.
Yes, I know I can set it up to record a season's worth of programs but I don't want to. Especially with news programs.
There is not much left for entertainment out here but tv and it should be easy, not harder as things get *improved*.
There are programs I want to record, sure, but I want autotune. Is that not possible to do with this receiver in the way of a software upgrade?
If it meant that I'd have to set up my channels to record daily and it would also switch to that channel I'd do that with no problem.
I read somewhere the the older dvr would tell you 2 minutes ahead of a scheduled record on-screen that the program was upcoming and "do I want to switch to that channel".
Doesn't do that with the HR-20.
So, is there any hope in the future?? In the meantime, I'll have to watch my taped-up list to make sure I don't miss anything..
I hope that someone has some actual facts regarding my post.
I had this discussion back in January:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=76120&highlight=supertech1
Start reading from Post #8
:)
Doug Brott
07-23-07, 10:55 AM
It does seem that autotune would be easy to implement on a DVR. I mean it already does it now, just don't start the record feature. I can also see how this feature might be confusing to an average user, though. Think Joe Six Pack calling up a CSR saying "This $%^& box didn't record my show even though I set it to autotune."
CSR: "Well, of course it didn't .. you should have used the record button instead."
JSP: "Why the @#$$% doesn't autotune record it as well?"
I'm sure the thinking is that if you want to autotune, then just record and then delete. I understand that it takes more energy to do that, but since the procedure is the same as what would normally be expected, it will require less servicing by DIRECTV.
This is my thought as to why this "easy to implement" feature has not been implemented.
houskamp
07-23-07, 11:07 AM
Actualy my old sir ts360 had this feature (record was done by turning on a programed in vcr) when you pushed enter on a non-current show it put a tag icon on it, if you hit it again it put the record icon on it, 3rd press cleared it. was great for when a show started in 10 minutes on another channel didn't have to go back and find it again...
lucky13
07-23-07, 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by Montel
2. I would like the progress bar to go away faster than it does now - or even be able to turn it off by default
I would love the 2nd option, and could see DIRECTV some day adding this as a user configurable option. We already have options to speed up the GUIDE and change the duration that the INFO banner appears, so why not the progress bar also? :)
Already exists.
You can get rid of the progress bar during Trickplay by pressing the Exit button.
During playback, you can get rid of the progress bar by pressing Play again.
Doug Brott
07-23-07, 11:47 AM
Already exists.
You can get rid of the progress bar during Trickplay by pressing the Exit button.
During playback, you can get rid of the progress bar by pressing Play again.
It seemed to me that they wanted an automatic way for it to go away faster. However, I'm with you and it's an easy click away - I don't see a need for change.
I had this discussion back in January:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=76120&highlight=supertech1
Start reading from Post #8
:)
Hi, that thread says this:
Your HR20 has Automatic Tuning! It is just not documented.
Here is how to use Automatic Tuning:
"+ In the Guide, highlighted an upcoming program you don’t want to miss then press ® RECORD.
+ Two minutes before your show comes up the HR20 asks if you want to change channels.
+ When the program is over, you will be asked if you want to Delete or keep it!"
I tried this for 3 programs on different channels 1/2 hour apart.
The HR20 didn't ask at any time if I wanted to change channels. That feature must have been taken out.
It *did* start recording the program on the other channel when it was supposed to.
Darn!!!
flexoffset
07-23-07, 01:15 PM
I would like to +1 the request to allow cursor wrapping on menu items -- particularly in the Channel Categories listing. That would be great.
My little feature request would be:
The next time I click GUIDE, the Channel Category I had previously selected would still be highlighted. I could continue scrolling the categories from there instead of starting at the top of the list every time.
One may say all we have to do is re-order the Channel Categories to fit our respective channel surfing habits. However, not all of us have had time to decide what our favorite categories are.
Hi, that thread says this:
Your HR20 has Automatic Tuning! It is just not documented.
Here is how to use Automatic Tuning:
"+ In the Guide, highlighted an upcoming program you don’t want to miss then press ® RECORD.
+ Two minutes before your show comes up the HR20 asks if you want to change channels.
+ When the program is over, you will be asked if you want to Delete or keep it!"
I tried this for 3 programs on different channels 1/2 hour apart.
The HR20 didn't ask at any time if I wanted to change channels. That feature must have been taken out.
It *did* start recording the program on the other channel when it was supposed to.
Darn!!!
Ok, I just tried it for 3 more different channels by setting them up to record the series.
Still no notification "do I want to change channels".
Also, now my Caller ID stopped working.
It does seem that autotune would be easy to implement on a DVR. I mean it already does it now, just don't start the record feature. I can also see how this feature might be confusing to an average user, though. Think Joe Six Pack calling up a CSR saying "This $%^& box didn't record my show even though I set it to autotune."
CSR: "Well, of course it didn't .. you should have used the record button instead."
JSP: "Why the @#$$% doesn't autotune record it as well?"
I'm sure the thinking is that if you want to autotune, then just record and then delete. I understand that it takes more energy to do that, but since the procedure is the same as what would normally be expected, it will require less servicing by DIRECTV.
This is my thought as to why this "easy to implement" feature has not been implemented.+1.
The added benefit of doing it this way is if you're not in front of the TV when your show first comes on, it's been recorded for you, so you can see what you missed.
And if you don't want to fill up your disk with shows you might not watch, just set the "keep at most" number to 1 episode. Just my .02 added to Doug's. I guess that makes .04. :) /s
Already exists.
You can get rid of the progress bar during Trickplay by pressing the Exit button.
During playback, you can get rid of the progress bar by pressing Play again.Oh no, ... now don't get me started on that #@*! EXIT button! ;)
cwdonahue
07-26-07, 12:54 PM
I diddn't read through 32 pages of stuff, but...
I like that I can use "dash dash" to delete a record series I no longer want while viewing the Prioritizer screen. But, why can't I use "dash dash" to delete an individual program I no longer want record from the To Do List? I have to open the item, press record once (which is counter intuitive since I don't want to record), and 4 button pushes later, I've deleted the item to be recorded. Strange...I want a short cut like the "clear" button with Tivo.
I diddn't read through 32 pages of stuff, but...
I like that I can use "dash dash" to delete a record series I no longer want while viewing the Prioritizer screen. But, why can't I use "dash dash" to delete an individual program I no longer want record from the To Do List? I have to open the item, press record once (which is counter intuitive since I don't want to record), and 4 button pushes later, I've deleted the item to be recorded. Strange...I want a short cut like the "clear" button with Tivo.Try hitting the "stop" button when in the ToDo list. It's not intuitive, since "--" is used elsewhere, but it should do what you want. :)
For more undocumented Tips and Tricks, check out Craig's (Milominderbender2's) excellent summary here (http://tinyurl.com/yswcpa). /s
SpaceGuy
07-26-07, 10:43 PM
+1. I think the HR20 is much friendlier than the HR10 Tivo when it comes to dealing with this, because if you do want to watch Live TV, all you need to do is switch tuners to the recording you want to kill and hit the "stop" key. You then get a popup menu that says "stop and keep the partial recording", or "stop and delete the partial recording". Very intuitive, IMO.
On the HR10, whenever I wanted to stop, I had to go to the list, select the recording, stop the recording, then go back to the list, select the recording, and then delete the partial. A real pain in the butt, IMO. /s
I'm a new HR20 owner and I'm looking for directions how to switch from watching on one tuner to watching on the other tuner. On my TiVo I could switch tuners by hitting the live button. I can't find how to do this on the HR20. Any suggestions? Thx.
Michael D'Angelo
07-27-07, 04:03 AM
I'm a new HR20 owner and I'm looking for directions how to switch from watching on one tuner to watching on the other tuner. On my TiVo I could switch tuners by hitting the live button. I can't find how to do this on the HR20. Any suggestions? Thx.
:welcome_s to DBSTalk
You are not able to do it. The HR20 does not have DLB (dual live buffers).
:welcome_s to DBSTalk
You are not able to do it. The HR20 does not have DLB (dual live buffers).Ya. Unfortunately, the only way I know to get to a show that might be recording on the other tuner is to select it from playlist.
Assuming you're willing to lose the current live buffer, does anyone know a quicker way to view the recording in progress on the other tuner? The PREV button will do it once both tuners are in it's memory, but not the first time you hit it.
/s
Stuart Sweet
07-27-07, 07:58 AM
Tune to the channel that it's recording? If I understand the question correctly, you're trying to see what's being recorded. Going to the list and pushing PLAY will start you at the beginning, and tuning to the channel that's being recorded will take you to real time where you can rewind from there.
DogLover
07-27-07, 09:21 AM
Ya. Unfortunately, the only way I know to get to a show that might be recording on the other tuner is to select it from playlist.
Assuming you're willing to lose the current live buffer, does anyone know a quicker way to view the recording in progress on the other tuner? The PREV button will do it once both tuners are in it's memory, but not the first time you hit it.
/s
You could go to the list, see what channel and see what channel is being recorded. When you are in the list, the number buttons seem to work with the PIP. When the channel changes, just press exit to go to full screen. (If the recording is in a folder, you have to press enter to open the folder.)
It's not that quick, but it does get you to live on the current recording.
Milominderbinder2
07-27-07, 09:36 AM
Hi, that thread says this:
Your HR20 has Automatic Tuning! It is just not documented.
Here is how to use Automatic Tuning:
"+ In the Guide, highlighted an upcoming program you don’t want to miss then press ® RECORD.
+ Two minutes before your show comes up the HR20 asks if you want to change channels.
+ When the program is over, you will be asked if you want to Delete or keep it!"
I tried this for 3 programs on different channels 1/2 hour apart.
The HR20 didn't ask at any time if I wanted to change channels. That feature must have been taken out.
It *did* start recording the program on the other channel when it was supposed to.
Darn!!!
Back from vacation, just catching up...
Dave,
It is working.
You have two tuners. If it does not need to bother you from what you are watching, it doesn't.
The recording orange light goes on and it records it so that it is ready whenever your are ready to watch it.
If you would have already been recording something else and watching yet another channel is the only time it needs to bother you.
As you spend more time with it, I promise you will love how the HR20 does Autotune.
As an aside, we have had Autotune on the wish list at least twice. Each time it got such a low response that it was removed.
Autotune is the one feature I hate the most on the H21. That and no Replay button. It is hard to go back to 1999.
- Craig
Milominderbinder2
07-27-07, 09:43 AM
Add a third market for OTA choices. I live in a Medium size city near 2 other medium size cities. Direct TV does not offer locals in my market. However I can catch HD channels in all three markets with my HR20, however I have to choose only 2 markets as guide will only use 2 zip codes.
There is already a Wish List item that would solve the 3rd market and even a 4th or 5th market OTA problem.
The feature you need is actually documented in the HR20 manual! It would solve your problems and also solve the myriad of problems that people have with missing OTAs in their home market.
Scan for OTA Channels is on page 78 of the HR20 manual:
To scan for off-air channels and set up the local network areas after Guided Setup, do the following:
1. Press MENU.
2. Press SELECT on Settings in the Quick Menu.
3. Select Setup in the Quick Menu.
4. Select Sat & Ant from the options on the left menu.
5. Press SELECT on the Antenna Setup button. If you have not selected your local networks yet,
select the Local Networks button and follow the instructions until you are done.
6. Select the Scan for Channels button to have the receiver scan local off -air frequencies.
To see how many OTA channels are currently totally missing click here:
OTA issue reporting web page (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=85879)
Please take the Wish List Survey if you have not in the past 3 days and give OTA Scan a high mark. Please also see the other Missing Promised Features (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=995704#post995704).
- Craig
Milominderbinder2
07-27-07, 09:55 AM
I have 2 ideas for the wish list - these may have been covered in previous postings but I can't locate them in my searches:
1. I would like the ability to key in a time in minutes and then press the slip or skip forward, and/or the skip back, replay button - and have it go forward or back that exact amount.
This was on the Wish List but got very low marks. Once the 4x FF was added at 90x normal speed it made it so fast to go through a 2 hour movie that there is not time to try to type in your hours and minutes.
You also have a 300x speed as well in the Jump feature. If your program is over an hour it is a 600x speed jump. For big jumps it is great.
2. I would like the progress bar to go away faster than it does now - or even be able to turn it off by default
YES! Please fix this. And when I hit pause it it to read or see something on screen why on earth would they even put up the progress bar? I love the idea of being able to set the time it is on screen.
And now that the progress bar is set to bright white, it is blinding. Even back in 1967, Scotty knew how to set the phasers to stun instead of kill.
- Craig
Milominderbinder2
07-27-07, 10:05 AM
I don't see it in the wish list. I want this bad. Now that the CE does FF autocorrection so well I quit using slip altogether. I know TiVo has a patent on the HR10-250 but the E* VIP622 still does it somehow. Some prefer slip so this would have to be an option in remote setup. Can the people that maintain the wish list please confirm that this command is not on the list. I paid a lot of money and push lots of buttons to skip commercials. Other than this remote command I am 99.9% satisfied with my HR20's and D* in general. Thanks for any info or help in revision of the software.:sure:
Skip had been a Wish List item but came down once we verified that the problem is not in patent infringement or technological but in contracts with content providers.
We have verification of this from at least 3 different sources now.
At one point in December we had a great alternative.
For just one release, the Advance (30 Second Slip) was a 30 Second Slip. Now if you do 10 Slips on the HD Test Pattern, Slip averages 34 seconds.
The other miraculous part was that instead of the current 1.85 seconds per slip, it was only 1 second. It was the best of both worlds.
I do not think Skip will ever be possible. But I am led to believe that they could make 30 Second Slip be the old 30 Second Slip.
- Craig
Milominderbinder2
07-27-07, 10:07 AM
If I'm watching a program, then realize that I have to leave, I tend to just hit "record" to keep recording the show so I can finish watching it later.
But when I go back to play it from the saved list, it'll start playing at the start of where the buffer was when I hit record, rather than where I left off at.
Vor,
I know of no good way to do this. If only it would at that moment let you set a BookMark, but it won't. The reason we are told is that it is in the Live buffer and you cannot bookmark in the live recording buffer.
- Craig
This was on the Wish List but got very low marks. Once the 4x FF was added at 90x normal speed it made it so fast to go through a 2 hour movie that there is not time to try to type in your hours and minutes.
You also have a 300x speed as well in the Jump feature. If your program is over an hour it is a 600x speed jump. For big jumps it is great.
YES! Please fix this. And when I hit pause it it to read or see something on screen why on earth would they even put up the progress bar? I love the idea of being able to set the time it is on screen.
And now that the progress bar is set to bright white, it is blinding. Even back in 1967, Scotty knew how to set the phasers to stun instead of kill.
- Craig
I still think that having the option to key in an exact amount to move forward or back would be prefered to the tick marks (1/2 hour etc...)
I use this mostly for sports (long sporting events) and I love to move ahead a certain amount - say 12 minutes, or 20 minutes from an exact spot. I wouldn't mind it doing it as a slip feature but I would love to be able to move ahead or behind a fixed amount that I specify.
This would be nice for the live buffer as well to move back to the beginning of a show you are missing but is already in the buffer...
I agree for movies or shorter shows it isn't a big deal, but for longer events I think it would be a nice option.
Key in 12, Slip and it quickly moves ahead exactly 12 minutes...
Thanks! Montel
Doug Brott
07-27-07, 01:35 PM
It they could just fix the skip-to-tick to work better I think that would solve most problems. 4xFF works well to make it more granular.
Right now, it takes a long time to skip-to-tick up to the 3rd or 4th tick - even worse when trying to go farther in an extended recording. It takes 3 seconds per tick to get it to move and then I'd say a minimum of 3 seconds extra per tick to be able to go to the next tick on the way. That's a minimum of 24 seconds to get to the 60-minute mark via skip-to-tick. It makes perfect sense why you'd want to just say 60-go and there you are.
I'd much prefer to hit the FF button then ADVANCE, ADVANCE, ADVANCE, ADVANCE, PLAY and be at the 60-minute mark. Probably 2 seconds or 12x faster and infinitely less frustrating than the current method.
If you have specific points of programs that you want to get to, I know that you can set bookmarks. This will help in sport programs that you keep for posterity or training. Having the above method will keep the interface simple and through the use of that method and 4xFF, you should be able to reach any point in a program quickly.
Maybe it's time for folks to start rallying around the skip-to-tick fix again.
A REQUEST!
the ability to VIEW and SAVE recorded programs from my DVR 20 to my PC via ethernet. (network).
Doug Brott
07-30-07, 12:06 PM
ZELLIS, I like the idea, but I think we'll all agree that Copyright Law will keep this from being a reality.
You can record to a VCR, DVD, even a PC capture card, but you cannot simply "copy" the program from your DVR to your PC. This, of course, is not as convenient as your suggestion.
Milominderbinder2
07-30-07, 12:35 PM
A REQUEST!
the ability to VIEW and SAVE recorded programs from my DVR 20 to my PC via ethernet. (network).
If you could do this you could also repost the file through a file sharing service.
This is the key feature that Replay had that put them out of business.
- Craig
Spanky_Partain
07-31-07, 07:46 AM
Would it be cool to edit the title of Movies?
Say change the title of three movies to "tonight" would it make a folder called "tonight" and put the movies in so they could all be group played?
That would be kinda cool for setting up slumber party group plays and such!
Milominderbinder2
07-31-07, 10:12 AM
Would it be cool to edit the title of Movies?
Say change the title of three movies to "tonight" would it make a folder called "tonight" and put the movies in so they could all be group played?
That would be kinda cool for setting up slumber party group plays and such!
We had this request before but for a different reason. A guy wanted to hide the name of the porno movie he had recorded from his wife.
The informal answer that we got back is that this database that it draws from has to be locked because it is also used for PPV billing.
- Craig
Stuart Sweet
07-31-07, 10:57 AM
ZELLIS, I like the idea, but I think we'll all agree that Copyright Law will keep this from being a reality.
You can record to a VCR, DVD, even a PC capture card, but you cannot simply "copy" the program from your DVR to your PC. This, of course, is not as convenient as your suggestion.
This is a discussion for another whole thread, but suffice it to say that the constitutionality of that part of the copyright law is suspect in some people's eyes. Some people have the opinion that any software or scheme which incidentally or intentionally deprives a person of the right to fair use of any information or media he has purchased, or has been delivered as part of a paid service, is unconstitutional.
I for one do not advocate breaking laws, I advocate changing or challenging them.
cygnusloop
07-31-07, 11:22 PM
Maybe it's time for folks to start rallying around the skip-to-tick fix again.
RALLY! RALLY! RALLY!
True, it's really just an annoyance, but one of those things that can really improve the user experience. It seems doable, as the buttons exist on the remote, and are not otherwise needed (unlike the slow motion press-and-hold silliness).
As currently implemented, when fast forwarding, a press of the advance key bails out of the FF and executes an advance. I can live without that if it means a more usable skip-to-tick.
This bothered me in particular during the Tour de France over the last few weeks. Some of those recordings were loooooooonnnnnggggg, like as long as 5 or 6 hours. Several times, after watching the program, there was something that I wanted to show my wife, typically near the end of the recording. It would take FOREVER to skip to the last third or quarter of the recording, and she would get bored and go do something else while waiting for me to find the spot I was looking for.
I can't think of any good reason not to implement this.
Sorry if this has been discussed, but I couldn't find it in after doing a search. The one thing that still has me go back to the HR10-250 is Closed Captioning staying on during FF1. I can catch up when I'm 4-5 shows behind, or during those moments on CSI when they are in the lab. It's real easy to see when the dialog has started again.
I leave CC on most of the time because I have kids and it's just easier to use it than to keep rewinding and listing over and over.
Would it be possible to leave CC up at FF1 speed?
Stuart Sweet
08-01-07, 10:21 AM
Maybe once VOD is a reality for all HR20 users, then it would be a good time to identify the top 10 fixable, yet unaddressed wishes of the HR20 community. Then ask for volunteers for "shepherds" to keep threads about these wishes going. Mr. Brott has already volunteered to take on Skip-to-Tick for example.
BudShark
08-01-07, 10:25 AM
I'd be happy to take on a thread to allow user-configurable (or more options) to manage # of programs to keep (right now the 5 or All is unmanageable for us).
I'd like to see the ability to have more options or user defined options on # to keep - but alas - it keeps dying on the wish list vine.
Otherwise, I'll take Remote scheduling which I believe comes with or around VOD anyways.
Chris
P.S. My last name is Shepherd - so I'd be a natural fit :)
Doug Brott
08-01-07, 10:30 AM
P.S. My last name is Shepherd - so I'd be a natural fit :)
Well in that case, there's no doubt that you can Shepherd pretty much anything you want :p
RALLY! RALLY! RALLY!
True, it's really just an annoyance, but one of those things that can really improve the user experience. It seems doable, as the buttons exist on the remote, and are not otherwise needed (unlike the slow motion press-and-hold silliness).
As currently implemented, when fast forwarding, a press of the advance key bails out of the FF and executes an advance. I can live without that if it means a more usable skip-to-tick.
This bothered me in particular during the Tour de France over the last few weeks. Some of those recordings were loooooooonnnnnggggg, like as long as 5 or 6 hours. Several times, after watching the program, there was something that I wanted to show my wife, typically near the end of the recording. It would take FOREVER to skip to the last third or quarter of the recording, and she would get bored and go do something else while waiting for me to find the spot I was looking for.
I can't think of any good reason not to implement this.
I have the same problem with the Tour De France coverage - especially on the flat stages where you already see a breakaway has 8 minutes and you want to skip ahead.
When I tape football games I love to be able to skip half time. Everyone talks about setting bookmarks but that doesn't help if you haven't watched a program yet...
Michael D'Angelo
08-01-07, 08:15 PM
Something I am sure will never happen but if there is a way I would love to see it done.
Two options of doing it. One the HR20's being able to communicate with each other or the second option would be when online scheduling is adding you were also able to save your series link on a online account. So that means the HR20's would need to be networked.
This is my thought. If you have more then one HR20 and one of the units have a conflict with recording 3 or more programs at one time the program that is a conflict would be recorded on another HR20 as long as none or only one program is set to record on that unit.
BreezeCJ
08-02-07, 12:53 PM
I agree with the INFO button giving more detailed information (Cast, Director...etc.).
This was a feature of UltimateTV which I loved.
Milominderbinder2
08-02-07, 02:57 PM
I agree with the INFO button giving more detailed information (Cast, Director...etc.).
This was a feature of UltimateTV which I loved.
It is on the wish list.
I really want this one. How do you search for an actor if they are not listed?
- Craig
lucky13
08-02-07, 02:59 PM
It is on the wish list.
I really want this one. How do you search for an actor if they are not listed?
- Craig
+1
Additional info is the thing I miss most from TiVo. Actors, writers, director, and episode number.
I wish there was a one button press for my favorites. Receiver I had was able to do this.
cygnusloop
08-02-07, 10:17 PM
I have the same problem with the Tour De France coverage - especially on the flat stages where you already see a breakaway has 8 minutes and you want to skip ahead.
When I tape football games I love to be able to skip half time. Everyone talks about setting bookmarks but that doesn't help if you haven't watched a program yet...
:welcome_s to DBSTalk, Montel!
Correct! Unless you regularly record long programs like this, and want to be able to move around in them, you don't understand the mental anguish caused by the current implementation of skip-to-tick.
Oh yeah:
Ha Ha! You said tape. I still do that on occasion. I think, however, I have finally broken the habit of saying I TiVo'd it. Now if I could just get the wife to stop....
911medic
08-06-07, 07:42 AM
Here's one I haven't seen before, and don't see on the wish list:
I think it would be useful to be able to go back in the guide 6 or 12 hours. I've been over at someone's house, or at work, and seen part of a show I found interesting. I know which channel it's on, but don't know the name of the show (or forget by the time I get home). Or, I know I just missed a program, and want to go back and see when future showings are. Yes, I know I can search for the title if I know it, but for some programs (like "Inside Training Camp") there are multiple different versions or episodes, and I'm looking for a specific one. Being able to go back to it, select it and find future episodes would be much easier.
I'd gladly give up 6 or 12 hours at the end of the 2 week guide data to be able to go back that same amount in the past and see programs I missed. I know you can do this on cable TV guides.
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