HR20 Wish List

[Doug Brott]

Please note .. This Wish List has been replaced by a new list .. Click Here (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=93995)

I'd first like to thank everyone for their participation in the first HR20 Wish List. The support has been great and I look forward to even more success as the days progress. The original thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=68183) was established with a number of Guidelines in place and ran for over 100 days. DirecTV has seen the list and actually implemented some of the items that we wish for.

Take the new HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) - current results (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=18) - past results (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=1)

Note: These guidelines are not completely valid as of 18-May-2007. Some changes are forthcoming to this list, but have already been implemented. Essentially, the items are split into categories now and are no longer separated by the method described here

Guidelines

There will be two lists, one for voting, one not
The list will be updated on Friday mornings (PDT)

List 1 - Missing Promised Features

This list will contain items that have been identified as "Missing Promised Features." This will be a static list and will not be included in any voting. As DirecTV corrects the problem these items will be removed from the list. The current items on the list are:


Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47
"Display only the channels that are in your current subscription package" p. 33
The ability to edit "all the programs" in the Prioritizer (even when there are no upcoming episodes) p. 28.
Enable consumer installable Hard Drive Expansion Device - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 41
Apply Current/Favorite Channels as a filter to Search for “just what you want to watch” p. 31
Search "with your desired...keyword" p. 2 - Allow @, :, etc. & better search logic - AND, OR, NOT. Ignore "The" and "A" in titles.
Allow Autorecord after a Search by Title as described in the manual on pp. 20 & 31
Broadband Video on Demand - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 54
Enable the "Videos" menu option under Music & Photos
Make Caller ID work reliably as promised on page 33 of the manual
Enable "Sound Effects" as shows in the photo on p. 29 of the manual
Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably
Make the Replay Button consistently jump back 6 seconds per manual page iv
Enable Faster Fast Forward as shown in the owner's manual on page iv
Enable "Local Off-Air" (Over The Air) ATSC Programming p. 76 of the manual
Enable Parental Controls in My Playlist as defined in the owner's manual on page 34
GUIDE button "displays the Guide" first and Channel Categories second per p. iv. & 4
"Select the Scan for Channels button to have the receiver scan local off-air frequencies" p. 78



List 2 - Top-20 and all the rest

Makeup of the list
This list will contain all items except those on the "Missing Promised Features" list. This list will split the items into two separate categories ("Top-20" and "all the rest"). Adjustments will be made each Friday so that the "Top-20" are the top 20 vote getters. New items, however, will need to be on the list for 15 days before they are eligible to be moved to the Top-20. When Taking the Survey, the Top-20 will appear at the top of the page and the remaining items will be lower. This will provide a natural buffer for folks that want to quickly take the survey and are not interested in the lower ranked items (21+). Initial List will be determined from the first HR20 Wish List as well as new requests that appear in this forum.

Additions to the List
Items will be added to the list each Friday morning. Most items will be added if they are desired by two or more people (I count as the second person sometimes). I say most because some items are simply not possible. PIP (or Picture in Picture) is not a viable option on the HR20. There simply isn't enough hardware for that to be done. If it can be determined that a particular item is simply impossible, then it will not be added to the list.

Removals from the list
Items will only be removed from the list if they have been successfully corrected. A correction includes a fix that exactly matches the request OR a fix that provides a sufficient workaround causing an item to become moot. If it can be determined that a particular item is simply impossible, then it will also be removed from the list. A special consideration will be made for items that are only serving to clutter the list. If there are clear indications that the group wants a particular item removed from the list, then it will be removed.

Wording changes
The wording of an item may be changed for clarification.

Voting
You will be given the opportunity to vote one time per week. All votes will count. You can vote the same every week or you can choose to change your vote from week-to-week, but each time you vote, the vote will count.

Changes to the List

June: 22-Jun-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=980307), 05-Jun-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=971798), 08-Jun-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=965030), 01-Jun-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=958006)
May: 25-May-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=950682), 18-May-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=943583), 11-May-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=937832), 04-May-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=931441)
April: 27-Apr-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=924816), 20-Apr-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=917736), 13-Apr-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=909807), 06-Apr-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=901127)
March: 30-Mar-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=891107), 23-Mar-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=881390), 16-Mar-2007 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=872713)

[Doug Brott]

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[Doug Brott]

The Initial list consists of the following items in no particular order (subject to change):


Dual Live Buffers - Toggle between two live shows with 30+ minute buffers on each.
The HR20 should not delete any program marked as "keep until I delete" even if the "keep at most" number is exceeded for a Series Link or Autorecord program.
Display Dolby Digital, HD, & R (repeat) Icons in Mini Guide
Receive an alert via Calls & Msgs from DirecTV when the channel lineup changes
Reduce Press & Hold Time for Slow, End, Jump, etc. from 3 seconds to 1.5 Seconds
Save Guide/Interactive data to hard disk or network for easy recovery after reset
Always return to most recently accessed position on My Playlist when using LIST
The option to have My Playlist remember how I would like to view the list (chronological, alphabetical, etc.)
Show Delete/Don't Delete popup when stopping in the last few minutes of a recording
In all menus, the Left Arrow should function like the BACK button and in menus that don't have a right screen pane, the RIGHT Arrow should function like the SELECT button
On the first press, the Format button should bring up the display window and show the current format. On the second press, it should advance the format.
wrap the cursor to the bottom or top when reaching the top or bottom of a menu pane
In the Guide enable the FFW and REW buttons to move 1 screen forward and back
The option to turn off Guide/List/Menu Animation for better Ease of Use & response
Increase the number of items in the prioritizer - the current limit is 50
Undelete - the ability to (possibly) restore a deleted program
Make the SLOW MOTION slower. It's too fast now.
In the GUIDE, pressing SELECT while hovering over the channel name block should bring up guide info for that channel (currently only INFO does)
The ability to do an erase-all on the Caller ID menu
The mini-guide should launch by pressing the up arrow
Fast Forward autocorrection
TiVo style guide grid
The ability to play slide show of movies or video (perhaps via USB)
Do not clear Live Buffer when changing channels - keep old-channel content
Ability to schedule a program and change settings remotely over the Internet
Multi-Room Viewing via the Ethernet Port
The ability to auto scan for over-the-air channels
The ability to set manual recordings for a date well into the future rather than a week or so
Negative Padding - The ability to automatically adjust a recording (start late/end early) by a user definable number of minutes
The ability to manually tune to an available over-the-air channel when the guide data is wrong
A "Live TV" indicator when any FF mode reaches the end of the Live TV buffer
Option to view more technical information (MPEG2 or MPEG4, disk usage, fan speed, etc.)
Option to set the front panel blue light brightness level for ALL LEDs from the remote control
Add a line on the info screen with date and time of last reboot
The ability to save the settings of your HR20 via network or USB drive
The ability to have My Playlist display more shows on the screen at the same time
Ability to output 16:9 content as letterboxed on HDMI/Component and 4:3 content as fullscreen on S-Video/composite at the same time
Have INFO show more detail about a show (Cast, Writers, etc.) - possibly on a second screen
The ability to adjust screen horizontal & vertical position & size in each Format.
Enable USB ports for keyboard use in searches, game lounge, etc
The ability to auto-tune to a channel - same as if recording program without actually recording it
Option to put search results in folders by program title
Full screen menu (like the guide) when choosing Music & Photos
A confirm delete after hitting Dash-Dash in My Playlist or the Prioritizer
Ability to set the HR20 to accept both IR (infrared) and RF (radio frequency) remote control inputs
Enable Cruise Control functions (FF, REW, etc.) on the XM music channels and My Music (Network)
The ability to turn Picture-in-List off to prevent spoiling a broadcast that may still be in progress
Ability to disable the Screen Saver
Press & hold Mute (or another button) to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off
Show small countdown timer on corner of window a few minutes before recording is to begin

[Doug Brott]

Folks,

Now let me know what you think.


What additional items do you want on the new HR20 Wish List?
What changes do you want to see to the guidelines?


Thank you for your feedback.

[DaHound]

I miss the green thumbs up to schedule a recording of something being previewed on a channel, i.e. movie, episode. Remember?

[bonscott87]

I miss the green thumbs up to schedule a recording of something being previewed on a channel, i.e. movie, episode. Remember?

That is Tivo patentned software.

[bonscott87]

Which leads me to think that other things that are Tivo patents should be removed from the list. I'm thinking along the lines of FFW autocorrection. Especially since all you have to do is use the replay/jump back button instead of play to get a similar effect.

I do have one question after quickly glancing at the list:
On the first press, the Format button should bring up the display window and show the current format. On the second press, it should advance the format.

That's the way it works now, at least for me (unless I'm dense). Is the wish to not have it work this way but to advance the format on first button press?

Suggestion: To be able to edit the the available screen formats (i.e. stretch, piller box, crop). If I don't ever want to use crop don't make me cycle through it.

[Doug Brott]

That is Tivo patentned software.

Another Patent ... I guess I didn't know that the held one for this, but it makes sense.

[AlphaWolf]

I haven't been keeping up with the developments/changes to the HR20 yet. Is there a list of features that the HR10 has and the HR20 doesn't?

I already know about the dual live buffers and the suggestions. I don't care about the later. Is there anything else though?

[Doug Brott]

Which leads me to think that other things that are Tivo patents should be removed from the list. I'm thinking along the lines of FFW autocorrection. Especially since all you have to do is use the replay/jump back button instead of play to get a similar effect.

I've left some of the Patented items on the list in the hopes that if they are high enough, DirecTV and TiVo may be able to come to an agreement. You may be right and it may be beating a dead horse and we should just leave it off.

I do have one question after quickly glancing at the list:
On the first press, the Format button should bring up the display window and show the current format. On the second press, it should advance the format.

That's the way it works now, at least for me (unless I'm dense). Is the wish to not have it work this way but to advance the format on first button press?

I normally run Native=ON, so I don't see it so much anymore. However, I was using Native=OFF for a few days ;) and the behavior seemed consistent with what is stated. If the behavior is changed to match the statement above, then it should not be on the new list.

Suggestion: To be able to edit the the available screen formats (i.e. stretch, piller box, crop). If I don't ever want to use crop don't make me cycle through it.

This Suggestion, I like! :)

[Milominderbinder2]

Doug,

Thank you for doing this. I know it takes a lot of your time.

This this is important and we know that it is reviewed by D*.

Good Job,

Craig

[Ken Massingale]

Just had to install a replacement HR20.
What would have been great would to have been able to stick a USB stick in the old unit and save all the Favorites and the Scheduler/Prioritizer, etc. that has to be all done again. Then put the stck in the new unit and load all the stuff up.

[Doug Brott]

Just had to install a replacement HR20.
What would have been great would to have been able to stick a USB stick in the old unit and save all the Favorites and the Scheduler/Prioritizer, etc. that has to be all done again. Then put the stck in the new unit and load all the stuff up.

Yes, this would come in handy from time to time. It is already planned to be on the list as:

The ability to save the settings of your HR20 via network or USB drive

[bonscott87]

However, I was using Native=OFF for a few days ;) and the behavior seemed consistent with what is stated. If the behavior is changed to match the statement above, then it should not be on the new list.


It's always been this way for me, at least as far as I remember. When I hit the format button the first time it just tells me what format it's in, a second time it changes. Perhaps I don't use it enough to notice if it's inconsistent though.

[Doug Brott]

It's always been this way for me, at least as far as I remember. When I hit the format button the first time it just tells me what format it's in, a second time it changes. Perhaps I don't use it enough to notice if it's inconsistent though.

Fair enough. I'll double check this weekend, but I swear that each time I press the Format Button, the resolution has already switched to the next format. Anyone else want to chime in?

[KSbugeater]

You are correct, Doug. The HR20 changes with the first press, but the HR10 informs you on the first press, then changes (panel/full) with the 2nd.

[bonscott87]

You are correct, Doug. The HR20 changes with the first press, but the HR10 informs you on the first press, then changes (panel/full) with the 2nd.

Then why doesn't it do that for me? The first press it just pops up and tell me what it's on. I have to press again to change it. Oh well, something that isn't consistent I guess. It actually annoys me because when I press the button I want it to do what you guys see, just change the dang format! :D

[bonscott87]

Ok, I actually tested this tonight and really paid attention.
Basically it's either one way or the other. So it's not consistent. I'd say it's about 60-40 in favor of not changing on the first press.

[DonCorleone]

A. Display Dolby Digital, HD, & R (repeat) Icons in Mini Guide

B. Option to view more technical information (MPEG2 or MPEG4, disk usage, fan speed, etc.)

C. The ability to set manual recordings for a date well into the future rather than a week or so


1. This might be part of B above, but maybe just needs to be specificed: what resolution is being sent (1080i, 720p, etc....I suppose if you have Native ON you'd get that based on where it converts, but otherwise, I don't think you'd know)

2. As a piggyback off A above I would say to add "repeat" or "new" to the main guide, not just the mini-guide...also to activate the mini guide with an up or down arrow like the old DirecTV boxes.

3. Similar to C, but different, allowing you to progam recordings or AutoTunes at a lower level than just the time of the show. For example, Smallville from 8-8:05 and Survivor from 8:06 to 8:57

Thanks.

[coolhdtv]

Wish I could mark a show as 'watched', unhighlighted, without playing. I have 3 HR20 and I may watch a show on one HR20 but want to mark it as 'watched' on another without actually playing it.

[quickfire]

I wish the channel banner title lag could be fixed........If I change the channel quickly it can take up to 3 seconds before the title catches up to the channels #.....this is very irratating...It takes to long to surf the channels with the HR20 and its lagging banner!!!!

Is this a typical thing that all HR20 owners are experiencing??If so doesn't it bother you??

[RobertE]

Which leads me to think that other things that are Tivo patents should be removed from the list. I'm thinking along the lines of FFW autocorrection. Especially since all you have to do is use the replay/jump back button instead of play to get a similar effect.

I do have one question after quickly glancing at the list:
On the first press, the Format button should bring up the display window and show the current format. On the second press, it should advance the format.

That's the way it works now, at least for me (unless I'm dense). Is the wish to not have it work this way but to advance the format on first button press?

Suggestion: To be able to edit the the available screen formats (i.e. stretch, piller box, crop). If I don't ever want to use crop don't make me cycle through it.

I'll second your wish and go one better.

Hit the Format Key
Displays a list of available formats
Use arrow keys to select desired format
Hit select too pick one.
:)

[Doug Brott]

Ok, I actually tested this tonight and really paid attention.
Basically it's either one way or the other. So it's not consistent. I'd say it's about 60-40 in favor of not changing on the first press.

If this is the case, then I think you and I are seeing different things. I tested mine today and every single time, regardless of Native=ON or Native=OFF, the resolution setting would change:

With Native=OFF it would cycle as follows:

720p (Stretch) - 720p (Pillar) - 720p (Crop) - 1080i (Stretch) - 1080i (Pillar) - 1080i (Crop)

With Native=ON it would cycle this way:

1080i (Stretch) - 1080i (Pillar) - 1080i (Crop)

The round-robin is what I expect. It didn't matter which resolution I was set to, the first press of the FORMAT button would always switch to the next one in the cycle.

For Native=ON and starting in 1080i (Pillar), the first press of FORMAT would switch the resolution to 1080i (Crop). I tried and cannot make it do the way you are stating. If it followed as you stated, I would expect to be able to press the FORMAT button and actually still bet set to 1080i (Pillar) on the first press.

[Doug Brott]

I'll second your wish and go one better.

Hit the Format Key
Displays a list of available formats
Use arrow keys to select desired format
Hit select too pick one.
:)

:up:

[armophob]

I miss the green thumbs up to schedule a recording of something being previewed on a channel, i.e. movie, episode. Remember?

Maybe D* could use a finger instead of a thumb. I have one particular one in mind.:D

[cdc101]

Copied from another thread I started in Q&A...

'Don't know if this is the proper place for a wish list item, but here goes...

On one of my old RCA boxes, the info screen used to display the origional air date along with the year...(ie A-Team - Origional air date: March 20th, 1984).

I saw the wish list #45 requesting more info on the writers and such...I guess if this could be added to that, or have it's own line, that would be great."

[John Joy]

I would like to make 3 feature requests for the HR-20.


1) More Uses for the EXIT button.

It would be great if the EXIT button would do the same thing as selecting DONE on ALL screens. That way, when you're several menus deep, you don't have to keep arrowing and selecting DONE to get back out.

2) Skip to function.

One thing I LOVED about my ReplayTV's was the ability to skip to a specific time while watching a record show. You would type a time, like you were going to change the channel, then press JUMP on the remote. You would be immediately taken to that minute of the program. This would be great if you have multiple HR20's and watch part of a program on 1 box and want to finsh on the other. Of course the HR20 remote doesn't have a JUMP button, however, I suspect a different button could be used instead. Often when watching a program, I may want to go back to watch a particular segment again. The 15 minute Jump function is nice, but this was MUCH better.

3) Return to Live function

Another great function of the ReplayTV was the Return to Live button. Again, no such button on the remote, but perhaps another could be used instead. It's soooo much nicer than pressing the 30 second slip button multiple times (even as much as I like to see Pinky) while watching in delayed mode.

[deffdino]

From jaywdetroit (another thread):
If someone has already thought of this, please forgive me, I have not seen it.
I was sitting around watching DiscoveryHD tonight in real time. My thoughts drifted to the the fact that when the dreaded break comes, I will have to sit through the commercials because I wasn't buffering the channel. Then of course, I started thinking about DLBs... And it struck me.
(This suggestion requires DLBs - So it would apply AFTER we have them.)
What if you had an option screen for the second tuner/buffer? A screen that allowed you to select what channel is getting buffered at certain times of the week or day when the second buffer isn't in use? Not to mention how long to buffer it.
There are a few channels i almost always find something remotely interesting on - if they were always buffered per my preferences, that would be very cool.
Of course it would have to be something that defaults to said channel after a set time period - so you can channel surf on the second tuner. (The beauty of DLBs in the first place).
Has this been suggested anywhere?

From me(another thread):
What if the feature allowed you to tell the HR-20 to auto-tune to your DBC (Designated-Buffer-Channel) when you put the unit in standby and at least one tuner is idle? Please use the DBC acronym!!! :)

[Doug Brott]

What if the feature allowed you to tell the HR-20 to auto-tune to your DBC (Designated-Buffer-Channel) when you put the unit in standby and at least one tuner is idle? Please use the DBC acronym!!! :)

I don't want to knock the DBC idea, but personally, I would prefer the Tuner (foreground or background) to stay on the channel that I left it on regardless of the On/Off state of the HR20. Of course the channel would change if a scheduled recording started, but it would stay on the new channel at the end of the recording. This, I believe, is what the TiVo does.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that DBC, if implemented, should be an option that MUST be turned on and the normal mode of operation would be what I described - the Joe-six-pack version.

[DaHound]

Maybe D* could use a finger instead of a thumb. I have one particular one in mind.:D

Man! You beat me to it!:lol:

[OldCountry]

As an owner of five TiVo's and two HR-20's, I think I have spent enough time comparing the two interfaces to determine what bothers me the most about the HR-20.

I often use slow motion on TiVo while watching sporting events, or documentaries. The HR-20's implementation has never worked well for me. It's too difficult to tell when it's actually going to go into slow motion while holding the play button.

TiVo has a dedicated slow motion button, but that idea is out for the HR-20 remote; at least for now.

It occurred to me that a better way might be to use the Pause key. Have the first press pause the video, the second go into slow motion (immediately) then third pause, etc. Like a toggle. Yes, it'a s two-button-push solution, but the first push would allow you to pick your spot and give us something close to a dedicated-button solution.

And since I needed to repost this in the correct thread, I might add that it seems to me the skip forward and backward to tick marks would be much smoother if we went into fast-forward or rewind first, then used the skip forward or backward buttons to jump to the ticks. That too would be very TiVo-like. But let's face it. TiVo's remote and the implementation of their user interface is what made them so popular. My wife still gets upset with me when I tell her we'll be replacing all the TiVo's with HR-20's soon. :D

[jpoet]

I would like the ability to prioritize channels, specifically for auto-records.

I would give any HD channel a higher priority than any SD channel. For example, I would give ESPN-HD a higher priority than ESPN.

Some people have the same channel available to them OTA or via the satellite. For some, the OTA channel may have a better picture, and for others the satellite may have the better picture.

Say I have a auto-record setup for "Cary Grant". If the scheduler sees a Cary Grant movie just on TCM, it would record it. If the scheduler sees the same Cary Grant movie also on ShowtimeHD, I would want it to record the ShowtimeHD instance instead.


John

[ohills]

There are two things I would like to see on the Hr20 that my Tivo has:

1. With the tivo if you are recording 2 shows you could hit the info button and it would show two shows being recorded ( a red button ). You could arrow down to the second turner and hit enter and it would go to the second tuner.

2. In the playlist when you select a show that you have partially watched, I would like to see a resume entry instead of play. I know these aren't big items but this is a wishlist!

[Doug Brott]

There are two things I would like to see on the Hr20 that my Tivo has:

1. With the tivo if you are recording 2 shows you could hit the info button and it would show two shows being recorded ( a red button ). You could arrow down to the second turner and hit enter and it would go to the second tuner.

2. In the playlist when you select a show that you have partially watched, I would like to see a resume entry instead of play. I know these aren't big items but this is a wishlist!

Ha ... Your #1 is actually the #1 requested feature of all. Dual Live Buffers. :)


As for #2, I do believe that the programs do start from the location where you were last. Are you saying that you want the option to start at the "current" location OR at the beginning? the default is to start at the "current" location and I don't believe that there are any other options.

[jediphish]

I find myself wishing I could have the following feature whenever my To Do List starts to take up a lot of HD space:


Be able to set a flag at a point in a recording to delete what has already been viewed (i.e. - truncate). This would be especially handy when watching a long recording (King Kong, football game etc., where you don't care to go back and watch what you've already viewed, but want to keep the remainder of the recording until you've had a chance to finish.

There are lots of times we get half-way through a recording and have to postpone finishing it for another day. Would love to be able to free up disk space by deleting the portion I've viewed.

[gobucks100]

I am surprised to not see additional storage space not included in the wish list. I would love to see that ability to easily add additional disk space to the unit through the esata port. Right now, one can use an external drive but it then ignores the internal drive. It would be great if one could:

1) Have ability to add additional 'on line' disc capacity where programs are recorded and accessible on the play list that are on both the internal and an external drive.

2) Connect an external dirve to the esata port and archive shows on the internal drive to the external drive.

3) Have the ability to see which drive a show is recorded on in the play list and have the ability to move existing shows between the internal and external drives.

4) Provide an easy way to disconnect one external drive and add a new drive with the play list updating to show the programs on the just connected drive (Hot switching).

5) Have the ability to tell the HR20 which drive to record a specific program or series on.

30-50 hours is just not enough when I am use to having 220 hours of SD on my Dtivo.

Jeff

[gobucks100]

I find myself wishing I could have the following feature whenever my To Do List starts to take up a lot of HD space:


Be able to set a flag at a point in a recording to delete what has already been viewed (i.e. - truncate). This would be especially handy when watching a long recording (King Kong, football game etc., where you don't care to go back and watch what you've already viewed, but want to keep the remainder of the recording until you've had a chance to finish.

There are lots of times we get half-way through a recording and have to postpone finishing it for another day. Would love to be able to free up disk space by deleting the portion I've viewed.

It would be great to be able to truncate on the end of programs as well. There are football games that I add additional space to the end of the game. It would be great to mark the actual end of the game and free up the extra buffer from the mark to the end of the recording.

Jeff

[w84mike]

I wish there was a button on the remote that would do the same thing as the "RES" button on the front of the machine. The "Format" button can take a while to work through all the resolutions and all the formats, so it's often a lot faster to get up go to the machine and use the RES button - but it would be even better for lazy folks like me if I didn't have to get up and go to the machine. :rolleyes:

[Doug Brott]

I am surprised to not see additional storage space not included in the wish list. I would love to see that ability to easily add additional disk space to the unit through the esata port. Right now, one can use an external drive but it then ignores the internal drive. It would be great if one could:

Enable consumer installable Hard Drive Expansion Device - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 41 is currently on the Missing Promised Features list. We have not forgotten it, this is one of the items that we want to continue to push.

You are currently able to use an external eSata drive, but it is a replacement of the existing drive and not an expansion of the current space. The ability to do this is currently a non-supported feature of the HR20.

[GarnerA]

So I'm new, but I've read the entire thread. I have used/moderated message boards for decades and know how aggravating it can be when the answer is just above the request, but... I can't find any explanation of the first item on the current (unordered) list: "Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47". I noticed that some things I marked to record first runs still recorded repeats so I'm thinking this is related, but I'd like to know for sure. Additionally, why would this be marked as a legal issue (see the first survey on the SizeThis site link from Doug's sig)?

Thanks,
Garner

[gobucks100]

Enable consumer installable Hard Drive Expansion Device - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 41 is currently on the Missing Promised Features list. We have not forgotten it, this is one of the items that we want to continue to push.

You are currently able to use an external eSata drive, but it is a replacement of the existing drive and not an expansion of the current space. The ability to do this is currently a non-supported feature of the HR20.

Hi Doug,

Not sure where the 'Missing Promised feature list' is. If I was to fill out a wish list, I would want this one really high on the list. I would propose combining the wish and missing list so people can vote on all items regardless of if Dtv has promised or not to add feature in the past as both are going to be using the same resources at DTV to implement and prioritize.

Jeff

[Doug Brott]

So I'm new, but I've read the entire thread. I have used/moderated message boards for decades and know how aggravating it can be when the answer is just above the request, but... I can't find any explanation of the first item on the current (unordered) list: "Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47". I noticed that some things I marked to record first runs still recorded repeats so I'm thinking this is related, but I'd like to know for sure. Additionally, why would this be marked as a legal issue (see the first survey on the SizeThis site link from Doug's sig)?

Thanks,
Garner

Garner,

Thanks for asking. Actually in the case of "Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47", the reason is not legal per se. The problem is that another company provides the information to DirecTV and then DirecTV adds it into their guide system. I believe the company is Tribune, but I cannot remember for sure. Basically, DirecTV does not have direct control over the guide data. Still, this is a problem. It is just marked because of DirecTV's specific involvement.

[bonscott87]

Garner,

Thanks for asking. Actually in the case of "Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47", the reason is not legal per se. The problem is that another company provides the information to DirecTV and then DirecTV adds it into their guide system. I believe the company is Tribune, but I cannot remember for sure. Basically, DirecTV does not have direct control over the guide data. Still, this is a problem. It is just marked because of DirecTV's specific involvement.

Yes, Tribune is the provider of data to DirecTV (and pretty much everyone else) but the root of the data is the network channels themselves.

It's a curious wishlist item since the HR20 is just as good as the DirecTivo when it comes to first run/repeat guide data. Only troubles are the same things that give a DirecTivo problems...namely shows on Comedy Central, ESPN and a few other networks because they don't provide proper guide data to Tribune which then of course only provides the data they get on to DirecTV and such. So there really isn't much of anything DirecTV can do to make it any better other then to complain to Tribune which then will complain to the networks which falls on deaf ears mostly.

Now one thing they could do is flag HD programs so it can be searched, that's a good wishlist item to be sure.

[Doug Brott]

Hi Doug,

Not sure where the 'Missing Promised feature list' is. If I was to fill out a wish list, I would want this one really high on the list. I would propose combining the wish and missing list so people can vote on all items regardless of if Dtv has promised or not to add feature in the past as both are going to be using the same resources at DTV to implement and prioritize.

Jeff

The first HR20 Wish List (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=1) included both sets of items on this list. The intent of the new list is to keep the pressure on regarding the "Missing Promised Features" which I will again list below. In addition, the most popular items (Top-20) will be listed near the top of the Survey since they will be most likely to be voted on. As the list gets longer, folks will tend to skip the items toward the bottom of the list.

This is a new format that I hope proves successful.


Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47
"Display only the channels that are in your current subscription package" p. 33
The ability to edit "all the programs" in the Prioritizer (even when there are no upcoming episodes) p. 28.
Enable consumer installable Hard Drive Expansion Device - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 41
Apply Current/Favorite Channels as a filter to Search for “just what you want to watch” p. 31
Search "with your desired...keyword" p. 2 - Allow @, :, etc. & better search logic - AND, OR, NOT. Ignore "The" and "A" in titles.
Allow Autorecord after a Search by Title as described in the manual on pp. 20 & 31
Broadband Video on Demand - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 54
Enable the "Videos" menu option under Music & Photos
Make Caller ID work reliably as promised on page 33 of the manual
Enable "Sound Effects" as shows in the photo on p. 29 of the manual
Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably

[Demsin2008]

Maybe D* could use a finger instead of a thumb. I have one particular one in mind.:D

Hi, I am new to this site and I have been a subscriber since the beginning of time.

I received two HD 20's during the very first week it was available

It has problems as everyone is aware of.

I have had are you ready TEN, that is right 10 receivers over the period of six months and they simply cannot fix them. They are totally incompetent and it is very disturbing to me. I have been in talks with executives in California and Colorado and even spoke to the CEO of the company.

I would like to hear from some of you as to what the heck you are doing to cope with the every day problems.

I have to reboot my HD 20 every single day because of freezing. Even with umpteen new downloads..

[Earl Bonovich]

With regards to Demsin2008 post:
Refer to this thread:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=81196

[Doug Brott]

With regards to Demsin2008 post:
Refer to this thread:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=81196

Thx Earl.

[rcayers]

I would like to see the guide span a two hour period rather than a one and a half hour period. Many shows are an hour long and the guide then shows 1 1/2 shows, often making it difficult to get the info you want without shifting. I am particularly interested in shows running between 9 and 11 pm. A two hour span would allow viewing this time period in one bite.

[Drew2k]

This is not life altering or revolutionary, but I posted this earlier in another thread and think it's a simple change DirecTV can make at the production plant.

Suggestion: Print the word "Clear" under the DASH button on the remote.

The reason: Pressing DASH-DASH to delete is not intuitive, so adding the word CLEAR to the remote can remind new users that the DASH button has an alternate function.

[Alexandrepsf]

Wish I could mark a show as 'watched', unhighlighted, without playing. I have 3 HR20 and I may watch a show on one HR20 but want to mark it as 'watched' on another without actually playing it.

Ditto.

That would be great to know which movies are already watched. With TIVO I was hacking it by using thumbs up and down, would be nice that HR20 gives us some option to mark a show as being watched.

[Zym3r]

Great work on this forum, guys! I really appreciate all the help it has brought me as a DirecTV enthusiast.

I have a new functionality suggestion to submit -

Currently, there is no action associated with pressing the up or down cursor when there is no menu or guide active (user is just watching TV). Hughes receiver customers have enjoyed having those buttons instantly activate the "OneLine Guide" - now called the Mini Guide (currently activated with the blue button).

Pushing the blue button shows you what is on the current channel.

When pressing "cursor up", the Mini Guide should pop up and display the single-line guide data for the next active channel numbered lower than the current channel.

When pressing "cursor down", the Mini Guide should pop up and display the single-line guide data for the next active channel numbered higher than the current channel.

As I've said, those keys are currently *unused* during TV watching, so there's really no reason not to enable this simple, enhanced guide-browsing functionality.

Thanks again, fellas!

~Zym3r

[Doug Brott]

Just a note to those that may be wondering ... I plan on making the first additions to the Survey on 16-Mar-2007. That is two weeks from today. If an HR20 Wish List item is corrected, then I will remove it from the list. You can review the first HR20 Wish List which has 1600 votes calculated. The new HR20 Wish List is currently open. You can find the link in the first post of this thread.

I state this so that folks don't feel as if they are not being heard. I review this thread often, but we are currently in a transition phase from the OLD HR20 Wish List to the NEW HR20 Wish List.

Thank You.

[Drew2k]

Doug - When you make your modifications on the 16th, do you think it would also be a good idea to add the dates the suggestion/request was proposed and/or added to the wishlist survey?

Also, is there an easy way to link the suggestion to a thread/post here at DBStalk, so someone taking the survey who is not familiar with the suggestion can get some background on it to make an informed vote?

Thanks for your work on the survey... I hope after I get my HR20 I'll be able to contribute as well!

[Doug Brott]

Doug - When you make your modifications on the 16th, do you think it would also be a good idea to add the dates the suggestion was proposed and/or added to the wishlist survey?

There is a way to look at the history so that you can see when changes were made. It's not self-evident on the main report, but you can dig down and find the answer.

On the main report, you will be able to see the number of votes any item has. As time progresses, we may have hundreds of votes for some items and tens of votes for others. It will, of course, take more than a couple of votes before a clear ranking will make sense.

[Doug Brott]

Also, is there an easy way to link the suggestion to a thread/post here at DBStalk, so someone taking the survey who is not familiar with the suggestion can get some background on it to make an informed vote?

Thanks for your work on the survey... I hope after I get my HR20 I'll be able to contribute as well!

Yeah, I'll try to make a point of putting the link in the history. It will take a little more effort, but I think this is a good suggestion.

[brihall]

As an owner of five TiVo's and two HR-20's, I think I have spent enough time comparing the two interfaces to determine what bothers me the most about the HR-20.

I often use slow motion on TiVo while watching sporting events, or documentaries. The HR-20's implementation has never worked well for me. It's too difficult to tell when it's actually going to go into slow motion while holding the play button.

TiVo has a dedicated slow motion button, but that idea is out for the HR-20 remote; at least for now.

It occurred to me that a better way might be to use the Pause key. Have the first press pause the video, the second go into slow motion (immediately) then third pause, etc. Like a toggle. Yes, it'a s two-button-push solution, but the first push would allow you to pick your spot and give us something close to a dedicated-button solution.

And since I needed to repost this in the correct thread, I might add that it seems to me the skip forward and backward to tick marks would be much smoother if we went into fast-forward or rewind first, then used the skip forward or backward buttons to jump to the ticks. That too would be very TiVo-like. But let's face it. TiVo's remote and the implementation of their user interface is what made them so popular. My wife still gets upset with me when I tell her we'll be replacing all the TiVo's with HR-20's soon. :D

If I understand the rules right, suggestions require a nominator and a second to make the survey. In that case, I'd like to second these suggestions. With the old Tivo's I used the skip-to-tick functions frequently but with the HR-20 I find it too inconsistent to use.

Just for clarity, there are two suggestions here I think:

1. Make the pause button a toggle between pause and slo-mo.
2. Make the 30s slip button a skip forward tick button when in FF and make the 7 second jump back button a skip back tick button when in RW.

[lucky13]

Static electricity blew out my HR20 a month ago. I didn't hook up the ESATA to the replacement, as I had seen in these threads that the recordings on the external drive wouldn't play on the new unit.

Just got a 2nd HR20, and I decided to connect the ESATA to it, rather than fill up the internal drive. The previously recorded shows appeared on the play list, but when selected, a pop-up tells you the access card has expired.

I understand DTV's desire (probably copyright issues as well) to prevent friends from "sharing" movies or other recordings by moving the same ESATA from house to house. But--when you have one receiver and access card replace another, why can't the new receiver accept a software command to recognize the "expired" codes? A single subscriber should be able to move one ESATA between units. I'm not a software expert, but it seems this would be an easier way to implement a form of multi-room viewing than through a home network, especially if the ESATA is made "hot swappable," or plug-and-play, as has been previously suggested in this thread.

So, my suggestion: Authorize the HR20 play any recordings made on any of the subscriber's DVRs.

[DonCorleone]

I can't believe I didn't notice this wasn't on the list yet: the ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal. This has been discussed in several threads that if you have a storm or something, you can't even fill your time watching things you've recorded.

[Doug Brott]

I can't believe I didn't notice this wasn't on the list yet: the ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal. This has been discussed in several threads that if you have a storm or something, you can't even fill your time watching things you've recorded.

While this may have been known earlier, it became prevalent in the past couple of weeks, this is true. The first wish list was closed on 16-Feb-2007. The next list was created mostly from the first. New changes will start being made to the second HR20 Wish List on 16-Mar-2007. I'll add this one at that time.

[Drew2k]

I can't believe I didn't notice this wasn't on the list yet: the ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal. This has been discussed in several threads that if you have a storm or something, you can't even fill your time watching things you've recorded.Still waiting for my HR20 to be installed, so I've not experienced this yet. However, if this is true, I second the nomination to allow recorded programs to be viewed at any time, even if no sat signals are detected.

[lucky13]

I can't believe I didn't notice this wasn't on the list yet: the ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal. This has been discussed in several threads that if you have a storm or something, you can't even fill your time watching things you've recorded.


Don, during our snowfall last Sunday, I was able to access the list while I had no reception on any satellite (before I brushed off the dish).

From the Searching for Signal screen, I pressed Menu, My Playlist, Go There.
I was able to play recordings (tried a couple) while the satellite was unavailable.

Has anyone else been able to access the playlist during a signal outage?

[DonCorleone]

Wow, that's great news. I've actually never been stuck in that situation to test it out for sure...I've only read that it doesn't work.

[DonCorleone]

Sorry, don't mean to double post, but forgot to mention this:

Is this new? I just checked the guide for How I Met Your Mother and 2.5 Men and they both show as "Repeat" and that new show with David Spade says, "Season Finale"

[drjjr]

One thing that my ReplayTV has that the HR20 should be able to do is use a photo playlist or folder as a screensaver slideshow. In settings, you can select a photo folder as a screensaver slideshow. Then, whenever the ReplayTV is paused for a certain amount of time (or any other time a screensaver would be appropriate) it displays the selected slideshow. It's nice to wake up in the morning and turn it on and see photos of things that I've forgotten. Plus it's more interesting than the bouncing Directv logo :)

[xerxes]

One thing that my ReplayTV has that the HR20 should be able to do is use a photo playlist or folder as a screensaver slideshow. In settings, you can select a photo folder as a screensaver slideshow. Then, whenever the ReplayTV is paused for a certain amount of time (or any other time a screensaver would be appropriate) it displays the selected slideshow. It's nice to wake up in the morning and turn it on and see photos of things that I've forgotten. Plus it's more interesting than the bouncing Directv logo :)

Yeah that would be a slick feature. I like it!

[Doug Brott]

Take the new HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18)

Early voting has started, time to get your vote in. Each person will have an opportunity to vote once per week. In order to limit the voting you will have to register (http://www.sizethis.com/register.php) for an account at SizeThis.com (http://www.sizethis.com/register.php). Every vote counts, so please vote each week.

Currently, the HR20 Wish List is not being changed. Changes will commence again on 16-Mar-2007. The 16th will be the first day in which items may move from or to the Top-20 and will be the first day in which new items are added. However, if a NATIONAL release corrects an item on the list prior to the 16th, it will be removed from the list.

Cheers

[BillyT2002]

One thing that my ReplayTV has that the HR20 should be able to do is use a photo playlist or folder as a screensaver slideshow. In settings, you can select a photo folder as a screensaver slideshow. Then, whenever the ReplayTV is paused for a certain amount of time (or any other time a screensaver would be appropriate) it displays the selected slideshow. It's nice to wake up in the morning and turn it on and see photos of things that I've forgotten. Plus it's more interesting than the bouncing Directv logo :)

I would like it if the HR20 (once networked) would support any Windows screen saver I instruct it to. I have a realy cool screen saver with an enterprise class ship and a Klingon ship which contiually move about and have a dog fight with one another.

[Drew2k]

This suggestion is baseed on a discussion in this thread, Using remote to switch to non-HD channels (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=857797#post857797), and is something that, if implemented, could solve the problem of tuning to a channel where the SD and HD channels have the same number, allowing users to quickly select the channel they want.

My LG TV offers this, and it's a GREAT feature: Channel number auto-completion (my name for it).

Here's how it works: Start keying in a channel number with the remote, and a menu offers valid channels and call signs that match what you have already input, so you can quickly navigate to the channel you want in the tiny pop-up menu, or continue pressing numbers to filter the list further.

[Coffey77]

I have another suggestions if it's not on the menu here already:

Press and Hold FORMAT button for 3 seconds for Native ON/OFF. :)

[Doug Brott]

I have another suggestions if it's not on the menu here already:

Press and Hold FORMAT button for 3 seconds for Native ON/OFF. :)

Ask and ye shall receive. :) The good news is, this feature already exists. I've used it numerous times in the past. I'm pretty sure that it has been there since the HR20 was release..

[Doug Brott]

Thank you DirecTV for a lot of hard work over the past few weeks. DirecTV has done a wonderful job of taking the information from the folks here @ DBSTalk.com and putting it to good use. There are a few items, listed here, that have been corrected in the most recent Cutting Edge Release. The items will remain on the HR20 Wish List until the release has gone national, but I have already marked them as corrected. Here is a list of items that were corrected in the 0x13b Cutting Edge Release (07-Mar-2007).


Enable "Sound Effects" as shows in the photo on p. 29 of the manual
Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably
The option to turn off Guide/List/Menu Animation for better Ease of Use & response
Save Guide/Interactive data to hard disk or network for easy recovery after reset
The option to have My Playlist remember how I would like to view the list (chronological, alphabetical, etc.)
With Sound effects enabled, DirecTV now has the opportunity to remove another item from the list:


A "Live TV" indicator when any FF mode reaches the end of the Live TV buffer
A simple "doop" when it reaches Live TV would provide the functionality of this request for most people.

[hdtvfan0001]

Doug - this list certainly has changed alot, if you compare 30 days ago to the present listing and rank - you begin to get a real appreciation for just how much D*TV has been doing on these items! :)

If the 13d CE (tonight and tomorrow) is a success and goes national, the list will shrink even further!

[Coffey77]

Ask and ye shall receive. :) The good news is, this feature already exists. I've used it numerous times in the past. I'm pretty sure that it has been there since the HR20 was release..

Oh, nice! I guess I should have tried it first. :icon_stup

[Doug Brott]

Someone sent this to me via Private Message. I am including it here so that when I start making changes next Friday I'll remember ;)

Is there a wish list item to toggle groups on and off? Tivo allows groups to toggle off in order to see the playlist in reverse chronological order and I prefer to see the playlist ungrouped. Any chance I missed this requested feature?

[Doug Brott]

Doug - this list certainly has changed alot, if you compare 30 days ago to the present listing and rank - you begin to get a real appreciation for just how much D*TV has been doing on these items! :)

If the 13d CE (tonight and tomorrow) is a success and goes national, the list will shrink even further!

Agreed. DirecTV has done a very good job at listening to what we DBSTalkers have had to say. Kudos to all.

[old7]

How about some sort of indicator that a program is already in the Playlist or To Do list.

[Doug Brott]

How about some sort of indicator that a program is already in the Playlist or To Do list.

Could you elaborate on this? Are you saying you want the Guide listing to show that it is already recorded?

[JACKIEGAGA]

I have another suggestions if it's not on the menu here already:

Press and Hold FORMAT button for 3 seconds for Native ON/OFF. :)

I didn't know we can do that

[old7]

Could you elaborate on this? Are you saying you want the Guide listing to show that it is already recorded?

Yes, in the guide list. Something like the title in blue if its in the Playlist, orange if its in the to do list and red if it has been previously recorded, but its no longer in the Playlist.

[Doug Brott]

In the interest of getting more input into the HR20 Wish List, I have removed the requirement to log in to the system. There are still some restrictions in place to help limit the number of times that you can vote. However, you do NOT have to log in or sign up to cast your vote.

Take the new HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18)

[Drew2k]

There have been a few "seconds" to my proposal in this thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=869125) to make the EXIT key simply clear any onscreen overlays or graphics when watching a recording from the play list.

This change will prevent users form accidentally jumping to Live TV while watcing a show on their playlist when all that was really wanted was to clear the onscreen graphics.

There are currently four ways to stop watching a recorded program: STOP: In recorded TV, stops playback and displays the MyPlaylist tab in the Playlist, with Live TV in the PIP window.

EXIT: Exits any menu and returns to last channel viewed.

PREV: Tunes to last channel viewed.

Channel Up/Down: Tunes to nex tchannel up or dwon from the last channel viewed.
My proposal is to make EXIT have only ONE function when watching a recorded program: clear the on-screen graphics only.

No matter how many times you hit EXIT in a recorded program, is should NOT exit to live TV. The recorded program is not a menu - it's a prorgram, so the current functionality doesn't even match the user manual.

This proposal in no way prevents users from quickly exiting a playlist recording to live TV, as the STOP and PREV keys will still serve those functions. If you want to go to your Playlist from the recorded program, hit STOP. If you want to go to full-screen Live TV from the recorded program, press PREV.

[stblake10]

Here is an idea that I'd like to see them add, would be to have an option under list feature to include "season pass" folder.

[nth78]

fix the channel bar so that the program name changes instantly with the channel number. right now it lags a second or two behind. this is frustrating if you're a fast channel changer

improve OTA to be comparable to other tuners.

[Spanky_Partain]

When marking an item to record and the item cannot be recorded, pop up menu saying the item cannot be recorded. If an item cannot be recorded then also remove the record icon.

For example, xm music channels cannot be recorded. Complaints about the preview HD National Geographic have been that the recording is a blank screen. Not sure if this falls into an item that cannot be recorded.

[loudo]

It would be nice if the HR20 would work through a network with non ViiV computers. Maybe ones using XP Media Edition or Vista.

With my new XP Media Edition computer can see the HR20 but do anything with it. My X-Box 360 works great with it, would like to see the HR20 work with it.

[Doug Brott]

It would be nice if the HR20 would work through a network with non ViiV computers. Maybe ones using XP Media Edition or Vista.

With my new XP Media Edition computer can see the HR20 but do anything with it. My X-Box 360 works great with it, would like to see the HR20 work with it.

Don't forget to share the folders using Windows Media Player. That should help it. my Vista box shares the media just fine.

[loudo]

Don't forget to share the folders using Windows Media Player. That should help it. my Vista box shares the media just fine.

Sorry about that, I should have worded that better. I get pictures and music, from my computer, through my HR20. But I would like to be able to use Windows Media Center with the HR20. Now I can view photos and music with the HR20, but videos I have created that play in Media Center, on the Xbox, don't play on the HR20, they are listed but have an "X" in front of them.

[Doug Brott]

loudo,

Enable the "Videos" menu option under Music & Photos is currently one of the Missing Promised Features and is listed in the top section of the HR20 Wish List. We all certainly hope to see this in the future.

[Doug Brott]

Folks,

Last chance to pre-vote on the HR20 Wish List. I will be making the first changes to the HR20 Wish List tomorrow. The "Top 20" will be adjusted to match the current Top 20 and new items will be added to "All the rest." If there are any other items that are not listed either in this thread or on the HR20 Wish List itself, now is the chance to get them in.

Cheers.

[BillyT2002]

Option to replace HR20 menu with a 1-line, mini-menu so TV can remain full-sized

I'm an absolute UI minimalist. I want to see as much television and as little UI on the screen as possible while I'm viewing television. This is why I prefer the mini-guide to the main guide on the HR20.

I would love to see a mini-menu on the HR20, that would optionally replace my main menu, if I so desired. This mini-menu would start at My VOD and could be navigated using the same arrows which are used to navigate the main menu. The mini-menu, however would only ever dsplay one line on the screen and thus leave the rest of the screen for television.

(If I had further options to make the mini-menu and the mini-guide sem-transparent I'd be even happier. Also, it would be nice to optionally be able to tie the mini-guide to the "guide" button on the remote too.)

[Drew2k]

A lot of menu options have pages with multiple tabs, but very few pages have on-screen hints about how to switch tabs. (Playlist, for example, does have the hints.)

I'd like to see DirecTV add visual clues to the tabs themselves.

Where there are two tabs on screen, display a line of hints just like in My Playlist, telling the user to press RED for left tab, and YELLOW for right tab.

If there are multiple tabs on screen, put the tab hints DIRECTLY in the tab. For example, the Ratings Limits screen has three tabs: Movies, TV, Other. When first accessing the page, the user is in the Movies tab, so put a RED circle in the Other tab, and a YELLOW circle in the TV tab, right next to each tab name. When a user switches tabs, readjust the tab clues as appropriate, so that the user knows exactly what button to press to get to each tab.

Online cues such as the ones I describe above for tab navigation will be especially helpful to new users as they learn to navigate the menu system in DirecTV.

[Drew2k]

Here's another change I'd like to see DirecTV implement: Have the menu remember the last option selected by the user.

The way it works now, every time you press MENU you are taken to the My Playlist item on the list. It would be great instead if every time you pressed MENU it highlighted the last option you used.

This would be great if you are testing several different settings, or want to toggle between different Favorites lists, or even want to repeatedly view the list of your Previous Channels.

(And if DirecTV someday adds C.C. to the menu, wouldn't it be so easy to toggle C.C. on and off if all you have to do is select C.C. once on the menu, and then every time after that when you pressed MENU the C.C. option would be highlighted? You could turn C.C. on and off with a simple MENU > SELECT.)

[Doug Brott]

I would like to make 3 feature requests for the HR-20.


1) More Uses for the EXIT button.

It would be great if the EXIT button would do the same thing as selecting DONE on ALL screens. That way, when you're several menus deep, you don't have to keep arrowing and selecting DONE to get back out.

This would be helpful in some cases. However, the EXIT button is uses as the "Live TV" button on occasion. There are a few other EXIT feature changes that have been requested since your original post

2) Skip to function.

One thing I LOVED about my ReplayTV's was the ability to skip to a specific time while watching a record show. You would type a time, like you were going to change the channel, then press JUMP on the remote. You would be immediately taken to that minute of the program. This would be great if you have multiple HR20's and watch part of a program on 1 box and want to finsh on the other. Of course the HR20 remote doesn't have a JUMP button, however, I suspect a different button could be used instead. Often when watching a program, I may want to go back to watch a particular segment again. The 15 minute Jump function is nice, but this was MUCH better.

I haven't actually used them, but I know that you can set Bookmarks in a program. Check out the Undocumented HR20 Tips & Tricks (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72648) thread for additional information.

3) Return to Live function

Another great function of the ReplayTV was the Return to Live button. Again, no such button on the remote, but perhaps another could be used instead. It's soooo much nicer than pressing the 30 second slip button multiple times (even as much as I like to see Pinky) while watching in delayed mode.

There are ways to get to the end of the buffer. Again, check out the Undocumented HR20 Tips & Tricks (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72648) thread for additional information.

[Doug Brott]

I would like the ability to prioritize channels, specifically for auto-records.

I would give any HD channel a higher priority than any SD channel. For example, I would give ESPN-HD a higher priority than ESPN.

Some people have the same channel available to them OTA or via the satellite. For some, the OTA channel may have a better picture, and for others the satellite may have the better picture.

Say I have a auto-record setup for "Cary Grant". If the scheduler sees a Cary Grant movie just on TCM, it would record it. If the scheduler sees the same Cary Grant movie also on ShowtimeHD, I would want it to record the ShowtimeHD instance instead.


John

Autorecords are broken for other reasons. I'm hoping that once those problems have been fixed that this request will not be necessary. We'll revisit it in the event that it is necessary.

[Doug Brott]

This is not life altering or revolutionary, but I posted this earlier in another thread and think it's a simple change DirecTV can make at the production plant.

Suggestion: Print the word "Clear" under the DASH button on the remote.

The reason: Pressing DASH-DASH to delete is not intuitive, so adding the word CLEAR to the remote can remind new users that the DASH button has an alternate function.

This is a good idea, but I don't want to include it on the HR20 Wish List. It is not really something that can be changed in software. As you know, the DASH is also used for OTA sub-channels. The word "clear" might scare some people, too.

[Doug Brott]

I can't believe I didn't notice this wasn't on the list yet: the ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal. This has been discussed in several threads that if you have a storm or something, you can't even fill your time watching things you've recorded.

Can someone else help me with this? It was noted in this thread that this statement is not the case. However, I remember seeing numerous threads where it is.

Does the system work if there is no satellite available? I'll add this to the HR20 Wish List until someone can confirm that it doesn't need to be there.

[Doug Brott]

When marking an item to record and the item cannot be recorded, pop up menu saying the item cannot be recorded. If an item cannot be recorded then also remove the record icon.

For example, xm music channels cannot be recorded. Complaints about the preview HD National Geographic have been that the recording is a blank screen. Not sure if this falls into an item that cannot be recorded.

This sounds like a bug and should be indicated in one of the "issues" threads that Earl has posted.

[Doug Brott]

HR20 Wish List Changes 16-Mar-2007 - Complete List of changes (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=history&survey=18) - Guidelines for changes (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80600)

Take the new HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) - No registration necessary

Moved from the Top-20


#25 - The ability to set manual recordings for a date well into the future rather than a week or so
#25 - Wrap the cursor to the bottom or top when reaching the top or bottom of a menu pane
#28 - Display Dolby Digital, HD, & R (repeat) Icons in Mini Guide
Moved to the Top-20


#10 - Press & hold Mute (or another button) to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off
#12 - Have INFO show more detail about a show (Cast, Writers, etc.) - possibly on a second screen
#17 - Undelete - the ability to (possibly) restore a deleted program
#18 - Increase the number of items in the prioritizer - the current limit is 50
#20 - The ability to have My Playlist display more shows on the screen at the same time
#23 - Make the SLOW MOTION slower. It's too fast now.
Additions to the List


The ability to mark or unmark a show as 'watched' regardless of whether or not it has been played link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=846592&postcount=20)
Improve the channel banner lag time - currently it can take up to 3 seconds before the title catches up to the channels link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=846606&postcount=21)
Move Slow Motion Activation to the Pause Button - 1st press pauses, 2nd press is slow-mo link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=848381&postcount=31)
The ability to 'truncate' or 'clip' a recording (change the start/stop points) in order to free some disk space link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=851242&postcount=35)
Increase the Guide show information from 1.5 hours to 2 hours on each line link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=853396&postcount=48)
Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding. link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=855565&postcount=56)
The ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=856206&postcount=58)
Option to use photos from your media server for the screen saver when available link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=858243&postcount=64)
Channel Number Auto-Completion - start keying a channel number and a menu pops up with list of possible matches link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=859273&postcount=68)
Option to disable grouping of shows on My Playlist link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=865056&postcount=74)
Icon in Guide if a particular program is already on My Playlist or the To Do List link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=866031&postcount=76)
Make the EXIT key only clear an on screen graphic when viewing a recording - No matter how many times you hit EXIT in a recorded program, is should NOT exit to Live TV link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=869158&postcount=81)
Option to replace HR20 menu with a 1-line, mini-menu so TV can remain full-sized link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=871700&postcount=90)
Add visual hints to all TABS in MENU pages link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=871873&postcount=91)
The MENU should remember the last location you accessed - it should not always start on My Playlist link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=872168&postcount=92)

Removed from the List


(MPF)Enable "Sound Effects" as shows in the photo on p. 29 of the manual 0x13b (CE) 07-Mar-2007
(MPF)Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably 0x13b (CE) 07-Mar-2007
Save Guide/Interactive data to hard disk or network for easy recovery after reset 0x13b (CE) 07-Mar-2007
The option to have My Playlist remember how I would like to view the list (chronological, alphabetical, etc.) 0x13b (CE) 07-Mar-2007
The option to turn off Guide/List/Menu Animation for better Ease of Use & response 0x13b (CE) 07-Mar-2007

[kevinturcotte]

A Minor, but would be nice feature. Now that the guide is cached, why not cache the zip code for weather in Active? Kind of annoying everytime power is lost that you have to re-enter that. Like I said, not a big deal, but would be nice.

[Drew2k]

This is not life altering or revolutionary, but I posted this earlier in another thread and think it's a simple change DirecTV can make at the production plant.

Suggestion: Print the word "Clear" under the DASH button on the remote.

The reason: Pressing DASH-DASH to delete is not intuitive, so adding the word CLEAR to the remote can remind new users that the DASH button has an alternate function.This is a good idea, but I don't want to include it on the HR20 Wish List. It is not really something that can be changed in software. As you know, the DASH is also used for OTA sub-channels. The word "clear" might scare some people, too.I totally understand, and this would barely register any votes on the polling site anyway. However, maybe DirecTV has someone monitoring this thread as well as the poll, so hopefully it will attract the right eyeballs for a future production update! :)

[Drew2k]

Doug - Great job on the survey!

I just placed my votes and hope others start voting more now that we no longer have to register.

May I suggest one item be reworded? I had trouble understanding it at first, but it could be just me. :confused:

The original item is:
Make the 30-second-slip button when in FF and make the 6 second jump back button a skip back tick button when in RW

How about re-wording it to:
Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding.

Thanks!

[Doug Brott]

Doug - Great job on the survey!

Thanks. Glad you like it.



How about re-wording it to:
Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding.



I've made the changes. You are correct, it sounded weird.

[kevinturcotte]

This may sound kind of strange, not sure it's even possible, but the ability to have 2 Series Links for the same channel. Let me explain. For instance, on my local Fox, I want The Simpsons to record, but I want different rules for first run episodes as opposed to repeats. I want the first run episodes on Sunday nights to keep until I delete them, and to run 30 mins long in case of whatever sport Fox has before runs long. However, I don't want it doing this for the repeats. I just want it to stop at the correct time, and delete them if it needs room.

[Doug Brott]

This may sound kind of strange, not sure it's even possible, but the ability to have 2 Series Links for the same channel. Let me explain. For instance, on my local Fox, I want The Simpsons to record, but I want different rules for first run episodes as opposed to repeats. I want the first run episodes on Sunday nights to keep until I delete them, and to run 30 mins long in case of whatever sport Fox has before runs long. However, I don't want it doing this for the repeats. I just want it to stop at the correct time, and delete them if it needs room.

This is one that I haven't heard before. It is interesting, though. It's almost as if you want a rules filter so you can have the show do the right thing depending on certain criteria.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

[kevinturcotte]

This is one that I haven't heard before. It is interesting, though. It's almost as if you want a rules filter so you can have the show do the right thing depending on certain criteria.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

A filter would work better I think. If it's a new episode, add on 30 mins and keep until deleted. If it's a repeat, stop at regular time and keep unless room is needed. I think that would be more doable that 2 series links for the same show on the same channel.

[Drew2k]

This may sound kind of strange, not sure it's even possible, but the ability to have 2 Series Links for the same channel. Let me explain. For instance, on my local Fox, I want The Simpsons to record, but I want different rules for first run episodes as opposed to repeats. I want the first run episodes on Sunday nights to keep until I delete them, and to run 30 mins long in case of whatever sport Fox has before runs long. However, I don't want it doing this for the repeats. I just want it to stop at the correct time, and delete them if it needs room.This is an interesting idea. You're basically requesint to be allowed to have multiple "Record Series" options for a program, so each time you choose "Record Series", the software would have to check if a Series Link already exists for the current show. Let's say you already had one Series Link. You might then see a menu with two options: "Modify Series Link 1" and "Add an additional Series Link". Each time you added a Series Link, the menu would be updates.

I think this would be difficult to implement, starting with how to identify each series link to be recorded. What happens in My Playlist? Are the shows lumped under the same series title, or are they distinguised by the Serlies Link number (EX: "Simpsons (1)" and "Simpsons (2)" - up to the total number of Series Links that exist for that series.) What about system reliability? Conflict management? The "History" page of the To Do list? Etc.

It's got merit, but ... there may be a workaround to suit your needs. (See next post.)

[Drew2k]

This may sound kind of strange, not sure it's even possible, but the ability to have 2 Series Links for the same channel. Let me explain. For instance, on my local Fox, I want The Simpsons to record, but I want different rules for first run episodes as opposed to repeats. I want the first run episodes on Sunday nights to keep until I delete them, and to run 30 mins long in case of whatever sport Fox has before runs long. However, I don't want it doing this for the repeats. I just want it to stop at the correct time, and delete them if it needs room.Here's a workaround you could try:

Create a Series Link for The Simpsons, set to only record the repeats.

Create an AutoRecord Link for The Simpsons, set to only record First Run.

The only shows that should be First Run are the Sunday night episodes, so even though this would look for The Simpsons on any channel, it should only record it on Sunday night on your local Fox channel.

Of course, this assumes that all channels airing The Simpsons in repeats have correctly reported the show as a "Repeat". However, if they haven't, you could just look at your To Do list and cancel any Simpsons that ISN'T from your local Fox channel.

It's a bit of work, but that's why I called it a workaround.! :)

[Racer88]

Doug - Great job on the survey!

I just placed my votes and hope others start voting more now that we no longer have to register.

May I suggest one item be reworded? I had trouble understanding it at first, but it could be just me. :confused:

The original item is:
Make the 30-second-slip button when in FF and make the 6 second jump back button a skip back tick button when in RW

How about re-wording it to:
Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding.

Thanks!

How about just having the skip to tick mark button work in both directions like it does on the HR10? No need to use one button for FF and another RW. Or is that too much like Tivo?

[Racer88]

After pausing a program pressing and holding FF or REW continuously advances or or rewinds the program one frame at a time.

This is of course is contingent upon moving the jump to tick mark/end/beginning to the button it belonged on in the first place.

Using FF/RW for that was a completely dumb and counterintuitive idea.

[Racer88]

Down arrow(or some kind of one button) switching between active tuners. (albeit not terribly useful without DLB but should still be there)

Ability to alter the channel banner size, between full width, and only the channel number/logo/date and time.

Remove the top line of info in the full screen guide grid and the mini guide that shows "(Mini) Guide: "Name of list"" and "Press Menu" freeing up more space for another channel in the regular guide and blocking less screen real estate in the mini-guide.

Designate one of the unused color buttons(or other button) for cycling through the favorite channel lists while in the guide or mini-guide.

[kevinturcotte]

The ability to press the Left arrow key when you're finished watching something and it asks if you want to keep it or delete it, like with the Tivo. I usually pad most of my shows, especially those on Fox on Sunday nights by as much as 30 mins.

[Decosse]

Something very basic - ability to turn on/off the nag prompt which shows the remote is on AV1/AV2 etc
Ability to power off ALL components with the main power on/off.

[armophob]

I would like to see the 6 sec jump back have a counter similar to the one the 30sec forward does.

[Racer88]

The ability to press the Left arrow key when you're finished watching something and it asks if you want to keep it or delete it, like with the Tivo. I usually pad most of my shows, especially those on Fox on Sunday nights by as much as 30 mins.


To expand on this even more the left arrow should function much as the back button most, if not all, of the time.

To expand even further, all the arrow keys/select need to have their functionality greatly increased. It is just plain dumb to have to move your finger(s) away from this group of buttons as much as you have to the way things work now.

[Racer88]

I would like to see the 6 sec jump back have a counter similar to the one the 30sec forward does.

...and it would be counting what exactly? The video jumps back the instant you press it.

Now if we could only go foward in the same manner, then we'd be getting somewhere.

Oh and we wouldn't need a counter going forward then either.

[armophob]

...and it would be counting what exactly? The video jumps back the instant you press it.

Now if we could only go foward in the same manner, then we'd be getting somewhere.

Oh and we wouldn't need a counter going forward then either.

I sometimes end up pressing it 3 -10 times to get back to the place I need. Just would like to know how many it is actually responding to.

[Doug Brott]

I sometimes end up pressing it 3 -10 times to get back to the place I need. Just would like to know how many it is actually responding to.

This would be a good Sound Effects item. It wouldn't work so well if you are hearing impaired or had the sound turned down, but it would work well for most people, most of the time.

[armophob]

This would be a good Sound Effects item. It wouldn't work so well if you are hearing impaired or had the sound turned down, but it would work well for most people, most of the time.

That would be ok also. Just something other than looking for a blue light flash.

[Racer88]

Pressing info on a selected channel while editing channels in the favorites list pops up a description of the channel in question.

[Drew2k]

To expand on this even more the left arrow should function much as the back button most, if not all, of the time.

To expand even further, all the arrow keys/select need to have their functionality greatly increased. It is just plain dumb to have to move your finger(s) away from this group of buttons as much as you have to the way things work now.The idea to use the left-arrow as a BACK command all the time wouldn't work on many screens, though, because on several screens there are three columns of options. For example, try to record a program. Left column is a menu. Middle column is a list of otions (keep until, how many, repeat, etc.). Third column is Done / Cancel. You navigate up, down, left, and right in this page. If Left was BACK and you were about to save your settings, but realized you didn't want repeats, you couldn't navigate left to fix it, because Left-as-BACK would exit you from the settings page.

On this basis, I would amend your idea to suggest LEFT functions as a BACK key ONLY when the cursor is in the left most column of options on screen...

[Drew2k]

Pressing info on a selected channel while editing channels in the favorites list pops up a description of the channel in question.I like this idea.

There's also a related proposal in this thread that would benefit from channel descriptions:

Currently pressing SELECT on a channel number in the Guide screen navigates immediately to that channel, and pressing INFO ont eh channel number displays a listing of all upcoming programs on that channel. Another proposal in this thread requests that SELECT display all upcoming programs, instead of INFO. So I would now suggest that pressing INFO on the channel nubmer would display the same description that would appear in the Edit Favorites screen.

[Racer88]

On this basis, I would amend your idea to suggest LEFT functions as a BACK key ONLY when the cursor is in the left most column of options on screen...

Exactly what I meant to imply....

So I would now suggest that pressing INFO on the channel number would display the same description that would appear in the Edit Favorites screen.

You already have the channel info displayed in the description area of the guide when a channel is highlighted. That is the info that needs to be accessible from the edit channels area.

I actually kind of prefer the way the guide buttons work now. Select changes channels, info brings up the list guide for that channel.

[Drew2k]

I actually kind of prefer the way the guide buttons work now. Select changes channels, info brings up the list guide for that channel.To me, it's more natural to press select on the channel number to see what's up next, because that's how other DVRs I've used has done it, and if I want to immediately tune to a channel, I just hit select on the program that is on now. (To me that's faster because it's one less left button press to get to the channel numbers.)

[Racer88]

While navigating the playlist pressing the right arrow should also expand a highlighted group of multiple episodes of the same program just as the left arrow collapses the list of episodes.

If this were to be implemented there should also be a little right pointing arrow icon when a program title is highlighted indicating to the user a right arrow key press is appropriate for your current selection.

[cdavis]

Here is something I would like to see, anyone else. Although I am not looking at my HR20 at this moment, I believe it does not display the channel for shows in your Prioritizer (Season Pass Manager) or the ToDo List. That is a feature I would like to see.

[kevinturcotte]

Here is something I would like to see, anyone else. Although I am not looking at my HR20 at this moment, I believe it does not display the channel for shows in your Prioritizer (Season Pass Manager) or the ToDo List. That is a feature I would like to see.

YES!! I HATE that it doesn't show the channel name or number. This is especially annoying when you have multiple Series Links for the same show on different channels, especially if there aren't any upcoming episodes, because you can't even get in to find out which channel it's set for.

[MRQ]

I'm new to the HR20 scene, so forgive me if this has been mentioned, though I didn't see it listed.

The ability to automatically pad live sports programs. I know the information is available in the guide stream to implement this, as my beloved UltimateTV has been doing this from day 1. (When is the last time a live sporting event didn't run over?) I know this can be done manually now with the HR20, but auto padding can be done and would be a welcome feature.

Your thoughts?

[Doug Brott]

How about just having the skip to tick mark button work in both directions like it does on the HR10? No need to use one button for FF and another RW. Or is that too much like Tivo?

That works for me, too. Would you guys prefer that I update the item to reflect this information? I'd totally forgotten how the TiVo did it since I'm exclusively using the HR20. :lol:

[Doug Brott]

The ability to press the Left arrow key when you're finished watching something and it asks if you want to keep it or delete it, like with the Tivo. I usually pad most of my shows, especially those on Fox on Sunday nights by as much as 30 mins.

We already have an item similar to this on the HR20 Wish List:

Show Delete/Don't Delete popup when stopping in the last few minutes of a recording. In fact, it has moved up to #22 from #32 in just the last 24 hours. Add LEFT-ARROW to the text might be appropriate.

[Doug Brott]

To me, it's more natural to press select on the channel number to see what's up next, because that's how other DVRs I've used has done it, and if I want to immediately tune to a channel, I just hit select on the program that is on now. (To me that's faster because it's one less left button press to get to the channel numbers.)

Not to mention the fact that you are in the GUIDE at the time. Personally, if I'm selecting something from the GUIDE, I would expect it to be guide related. Instead it changes the channel which, to me, is counterintuitive.

[kevinturcotte]

The ability to backspace while spelling something out, like you can with the Tivo's rewind button, instead of having to go all the way to the bottom, especially with the receiver assuming 2 clicks for every one. Can't be the rewind button like on the Tivo, that rewinds Live Tv. Why not have the Red button backup one space, and one of the other colored buttons does a complete delete (Not sure I'd want backspace and clear right next to each other)?

[Doug Brott]

I'd like to add:

Automatically add tick marks to beginning/end of a recording so that the skip-to-tick buttons work in those situations.

Anybody else feel that this would be a good item addition?

[Racer88]

Like was said above, and if it's possible without raising the ire of Tivo, this should be made to work just like the HR10...or as close as possible

Start playback of let's say a 1 hour recording,
FF at whatever speed
bump the skip button to advance to the 15 min mark while still FF
bump skip button, go to 30 min mark, still at selected FF level
bump skip button, 45 min mark...etc.
bump skip button, normal playback resumes at 59 mins.

The same thing in reverse except the final skip jumps to 0 mins.

The HR20 does all of this already. Just very poorly, unreliably and slowly with the current control scheme of holding the FF/REW button down to activate the skips.

What you want, it already does, we just need better control of it. This holding FF/REW thing we have now is pure junk.

[Doug Brott]

What you want, it already does, we just need better control of it. This holding FF/REW thing we have now is pure junk.

True, maybe I should just change the one existing item on the HR20 Wish List to say that it should act more like it does on the HR10. The current control method is not as easy, that is for sure.

[Racer88]

I did just find a bit of a bug in this in regards to 30 min shows. The skip after the 15 min tick takes you directly to the Yes/No delete dialog instead of 29 mins.

Personally I think this should take you to 29 mins. Like the final jump in a 1 hour show takes you 59 mins.

Thoughts?

[Doug Brott]

I did just find a bit of a bug in this in regards to 30 min shows. The skip after the 15 min tick takes you directly to the Yes/No delete dialog instead of 29 mins.

Personally I think this should take you to 29 mins. Like the final jump in a 1 hour show takes you 59 mins.

Thoughts?

Agreed, this is a bug. You should post that in the Issues thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=82969)

[BubblePuppy]

I do have a couple of wishes:
1. When watching live tv, such as the news, and I want to record just a segment I think it would be great if there were three options 1) Start Recording Now 2) Start Recording at Beginning of Program 3) Record at Beginning of Buffer.

2. Being able to rewind buffer and record a show that is already over even if it's a partial. Basically to start recording anywhere within the buffer.

I posted these wishes a month or so ago and it's still on my wish list.

[Steve]

Would love to see an option to auto-truncate scheduled recordings that go "n" minutes past the hour or half-hour. This would prevent shows with season's passes from inadvertenly preempting a scheduled recording in the next hour because it ends at 10:03 PM, e.g., like Grey's Anatomy will tonite, and the other tuner isn't available. Of course, it should be configurable, because in the case of Grey, the 3 minutes might be important. So a user might want to configure it to only truncate shows that go 1 or 2 minutes over.

It would also be nice if a user could manually select an offending recording from the to do list, select it's stop time and adjust it up or down a few minutes right there (or the start time of the recording in the next hour). This would be more intuitive and faster than deleting the scheduled recording and setting up a manual recording from scratch.

/steve

[Steve]

Add functionality to the yellow button during live or recorded video playback so that with each click, it cycles through: CC on, SAP, SAP/CC, and back to default. With each click, flash the current state of the button on the screen, and introduce a brief delay before the new state is engaged, in case the user clicks too far and needs to return to a previous state.

There are many other thoughts on how to quickly engage CC's in the CC thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=82638), but I thought I'd post it here anyway for your consideration.

/steve

[Stuart Sweet]

Hey -

Looking forward to the revised wish list survey tomorrow! Thanks to the wish list and its keeper and contributors, several items have been implemented in national release today!

Thanks to everyone for their help!

[Agrajag]

A few of us now have realized that the existing native mode isn't exactly working as it should. A real native mode should send the native signal to the TV regardless of the resolution. Right now it only does that for resolutions above 480i. We'd like to see them fix it so that this also includes 480i. As it is now, 480i gets processed into either Stretch, Crop or Pillar Box formats.

I'd recommend one additional FORMAT option called "None" that would result in 4:3 material being sent to the TV without being first processed by these formats.

This might be added as "Native Mode Support for 480i Resolution" or something similar.

You can read pages about this issue in this thread:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83058&goto=newpost

[Doug Brott]

As an addendum tomorrow, I would like to modify the existing #5 feature

Currently: Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding.

I propose the following wording instead:

Improve Skip-to-Tick feature - include tick mark @ start/end of recording and use 30-second-skip as skip-to-tick button during FF and REW

[Doug Brott]

There appears to be a new #1 on the HR20 Wish List. The Long run of Dual Live Buffers may be over (for now).

The ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal now ranks #1 with DLB ranking #2.

[Drew2k]

The survey includes the following two requests:

The ability to turn Picture-in-List off to prevent spoiling a broadcast that may still be in progress

Have INFO show more detail about a show (Cast, Writers, etc.) - possibly on a second screen


I'd like to propose combining these suggestions and amending them as follows:

Add a sticky toggle to disable Picture-in-List (PIL) on the To Do List and PlayList screens, selectable via the Quick Menu for these two screens, and use the extra space obtained from hiding the PIL window to display additional information about the current selected program in the list.

This would allow users to toggle off the Picture-in-List (PIL) window via an option on the Quick Menu. The status should be sticky: if a user turns PIL off and exits the screen, the next time the user returns to the screen PIL would still be off.

By hiding the PIL window, more space is available to display additional information. In addition, users can avoid seeing programs currently being recorded (spoiled) when they look at the PlayList or To Do List.

[Drew2k]

I have an additional proposal regarding the To Do List:

Modify the To Do List screen to move the menu options on the left of the screen into a Quick Menu, which allows the To Do list to be expanded to the full screen width, and add an on-screen tip to press MENU for additional options.

[Doug Brott]

Add a sticky toggle to disable Picture-in-List (PIL) on the To Do List and PlayList screens, selectable via the Quick Menu for these two screens, and use the extra space obtained from hiding the PIL window to display additional information about the current selected program in the list.

It's an interesting suggestion, but for me, the wording is starting to get hard to understand. One thing I try to do (although not always successfully) is present and idea without necessarily describing how it should be implemented. Since the DirecTV Engineers actually know how the software is coded, they should have a better understanding about what will and will not work. I'd hate to pigeon-hole them so much that it would be a tough thing to implement.

For me, the two items that you are suggesting to be combined are two distinct features. If DirecTV chose to fill in the area with more informative data in lieu of the video, I'd be OK with that, but I don't necessarily think that it is a prerequisite. For example, it may actually be easy to simply mute the video (make it black) in the video area while changing nothing else to the code. The picture box is probably a higher level function and may or may not be tougher to simply have it go away.

Anyway, that's my 2¢.

[Drew2k]

It's an interesting suggestion, but for me, the wording is starting to get hard to understand. One thing I try to do (although not always successfully) is present and idea without necessarily describing how it should be implemented. Since the DirecTV Engineers actually know how the software is coded, they should have a better understanding about what will and will not work. I'd hate to pigeon-hole them so much that it would be a tough thing to implement.

For me, the two items that you are suggesting to be combined are two distinct features. If DirecTV chose to fill in the area with more informative data in lieu of the video, I'd be OK with that, but I don't necessarily think that it is a prerequisite. For example, it may actually be easy to simply mute the video (make it black) in the video area while changing nothing else to the code. The picture box is probably a higher level function and may or may not be tougher to simply have it go away.

Anyway, that's my 2¢.Well, it is a WISH list! ;)

I really don't like seeing the PIL window in the list when I have a recording in progress, and I would much prefer that the space occupied by the PIL window be utilized to show extra informaton, hence my suggestion. The wording would most definintely benefit from some fine-tuning, but what I wrote is the essence of my wish! :)

(I'm not sure if it goes without saying but hiding the PIL window shoudl also disable the audio. Sounds can also be spoilers!)

[Doug Brott]

(I'm not sure if it goes without saying but hiding the PIL window shoudl also disable the audio. Sounds can also be spoilers!)

I'm in absolute agreement there. One of the suggestions actually has been let the PAUSE button mute both the video and the audio while the guide is up. That would be good enough for me.

There are a number of people that really enjoy the PIL feature. If the two features were to be combined, then someone would have to choose whether to see the info or see the video, but couldn't have it both ways.

[Drew2k]

There are a number of people that really enjoy the PIL feature. If the two features were to be combined, then someone would have to choose whether to see the info or see the video, but couldn't have it both ways.This is true ... but I was thinkng that a quick toggle would let the end-user make the determination to see the picture or see the extra data at their whim. Maybe this idea needs some refinement, so if someone else likes it, maybe they can think of a better way to implement it to suit various needs...

[Racer88]

It would also be nice if a user could manually select an offending recording from the to do list, select it's stop time and adjust it up or down a few minutes right there (or the start time of the recording in the next hour). This would be more intuitive and faster than deleting the scheduled recording and setting up a manual recording from scratch.

/steve

Can't you adjust it now using the Rec Once.. option after selecting a scheduled recording in the To Do List? I'm asking because I haven't had a reason to use that option yet. I have in the past had to extend a recording of a NASCAR event due to a rain delay so it is important to me to be able to do this.

If this does work the way I think it does then maybe the Start and End selections in that screen need some "negative" adjustment options to start late or end early? I think that has been brought up by someone but maybe not in this exact context.

[Racer88]

I'm in absolute agreement there. One of the suggestions actually has been let the PAUSE button mute both the video and the audio while the guide is up. That would be good enough for me.

I probably don't understand what you are saying correctly, but pause, as well as all of the playback controls, already work on the PIL window as it is now.

Isn't pausing at least some bit of protection from spoiling a show?

I dunno, I've long ago gotten into the habit of just playing back a recording when both tuners are recording shows I don't want to watch live(which is the case most of the time) so I don't really understand the spoiler issue I guess.

[Doug Brott]

I probably don't understand what you are saying correctly, but pause, as well as all of the playback controls, already work on the PIL window as it is now.

Isn't pausing at least some bit of protection from spoiling a show?

I dunno, I've long ago gotten into the habit of just playing back a recording when both tuners are recording shows I don't want to watch live(which is the case most of the time) so I don't really understand the spoiler issue I guess.

Yes, Pause now does help. However, In general, I would prefer the video to be blank. Now, I have to look away from the PIL so I don't see scores or who got voted out or any other spoiler. It really only comes into play if you start the show 30-45 minutes in.

Certainly it's a preference, and I suspect that you're thoughts are more common. I just want there to be an option to take it way, not the default.

[mgcsooner]

How about these three:
1) choice menu for how many lines/rows of guide data to display at a time. For large screens, peope would expect to be able to see more than 6 at a time.

2) Channel nesting, where it isn't necessary to use three lines of data for a single local channel. instead select channel and default select MPEG4 with option to move to alternate for SD or OTA if desired.

3)On page down/up do a complete page turn rather than move bottom line/row to top of next page.

[Doug Brott]

I do have a couple of wishes:
1. When watching live tv, such as the news, and I want to record just a segment I think it would be great if there were three options 1) Start Recording Now 2) Start Recording at Beginning of Program 3) Record at Beginning of Buffer.

2. Being able to rewind buffer and record a show that is already over even if it's a partial. Basically to start recording anywhere within the buffer.

I posted these wishes a month or so ago and it's still on my wish list.

The ability to 'truncate' or 'clip' a recording (change the start/stop points) in order to free some disk space is currently #54 on the HR20 Wish List. It was added last week.

[Doug Brott]

Would love to see an option to auto-truncate scheduled recordings that go "n" minutes past the hour or half-hour. This would prevent shows with season's passes from inadvertenly preempting a scheduled recording in the next hour because it ends at 10:03 PM, e.g., like Grey's Anatomy will tonite, and the other tuner isn't available. Of course, it should be configurable, because in the case of Grey, the 3 minutes might be important. So a user might want to configure it to only truncate shows that go 1 or 2 minutes over.

It would also be nice if a user could manually select an offending recording from the to do list, select it's stop time and adjust it up or down a few minutes right there (or the start time of the recording in the next hour). This would be more intuitive and faster than deleting the scheduled recording and setting up a manual recording from scratch.

/steve

Negative Padding - The ability to automatically adjust a recording (start late/end early) by a user definable number of minutes is currently #24 on the HR20 Wish List

[Doug Brott]

A few of us now have realized that the existing native mode isn't exactly working as it should. A real native mode should send the native signal to the TV regardless of the resolution. Right now it only does that for resolutions above 480i. We'd like to see them fix it so that this also includes 480i. As it is now, 480i gets processed into either Stretch, Crop or Pillar Box formats.

I'd recommend one additional FORMAT option called "None" that would result in 4:3 material being sent to the TV without being first processed by these formats.

This might be added as "Native Mode Support for 480i Resolution" or something similar.

You can read pages about this issue in this thread:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83058&goto=newpost

per your PM to me, the following information was determined:

You need to set "Native = On" and then, against all common sense, set "Format = Stretch".

With that combo "Stretch" apparently is coded to send native 4:3 signal out and it does.

I'm a happy camper but I cannot understand why they chose to do it that way.

Perhaps we should get the Wishlist to ask if they could make this more clear by adding another Format name that does with without being confusing.

[Doug Brott]

HR20 Wish List Changes 23-Mar-2007 - Complete List of changes (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=history&survey=18) - Guidelines for changes (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80600)

Take the new HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) - No registration necessary

Moved from the Top-20


#22 - The ability to auto scan for over-the-air channels
#24 - Negative Padding - The ability to automatically adjust a recording (start late/end early) by a user definable number of minutes
#25 - The ability to have My Playlist display more shows on the screen at the same time
#29 - Undelete - the ability to (possibly) restore a deleted program
#35 - Press & hold Mute (or another button) to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off
#41 - Make the SLOW MOTION slower. It's too fast now

Moved to the Top-20


#1 - The ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal
#5 - Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding
#8 - Increase the Guide show information from 1.5 hours to 2 hours on each line
#10 - Icon in Guide if a particular program is already on My Playlist or the To Do List
#11 - Make the EXIT key only clear an on screen graphic when viewing a recording - No matter how many times you hit EXIT in a recorded program, is should NOT exit to Live TV
#16 - Improve the channel banner lag time - currently it can take up to 3 seconds before the title catches up to the channels
Additions to the List


The HR20 should save ZIP code for weather in Active link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=872780&postcount=99)
After pausing a program pressing and holding FF or REW continuously advances or or rewinds the program one frame at a time link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875206&postcount=109)
Ability to alter the channel banner size, between full width, and only the channel number/logo/date and time link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=110)
Designate one of the unused color buttons(or other button) for cycling through the favorite channel lists while in the guide or mini-guide link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=110)
A sound effect each time the JUMP BACK button is pressed link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=118)
Pressing info on a selected channel while editing channels in the favorites list pops up a description of the channel in question link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=119)
Display the channel for shows in the Prioritizer link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=125)
The ability to backspace with REWIND while spelling something in a Search link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=131)
Channel nesting, where it isn't necessary to use three lines of data for a single local channel. instead select channel and default select MPEG4 with option to move to alternate for SD or OTA if desired link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=153)

Removed from the List


(MPF)Provide accurate repeat/first run & HD info so the right shows can be recorded p. 47 link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=82840)


Wording Changes

Make the 30-second-slip button skip forward to the next tick mark while fast-forwarding, and make the 6-second Jump Back button skip back to the previous tick mark while rewinding


-> will be reworded to <-


Improve Skip-to-Tick feature - include tick mark @ start/end of recording and use 30-second-skip as skip-to-tick button during FF and REW

[Drew2k]

per your PM to me, the following information was determined:You need to set "Native = On" and then, against all common sense, set "Format = Stretch".

With that combo "Stretch" apparently is coded to send native 4:3 signal out and it does.

I'm a happy camper but I cannot understand why they chose to do it that way.

Perhaps we should get the Wishlist to ask if they could make this more clear by adding another Format name that does with without being confusing.Doug - Good job! This should probably go into the Tips & Tricks thread/PDF and the FAQ...

[Doug Brott]

Doug - Good job! This should probably go into the Tips & Tricks thread/PDF and the FAQ...

Definitely good info, but the credit should go to Agrajag. I'm just the messenger for this one.

[Drew2k]

Definitely good info, but the credit should go to Agrajag. I'm just the messenger for this one.I thought that was info you had supplied to Agrajag in a PM and were sharing, but I definintely send kudos to Agrajag for figuring this out!

[Doug Brott]

I thought that was info you had supplied to Agrajag in a PM and were sharing, but I definintely send kudos to Agrajag for figuring this out!

No worries, I just wanted to make sure credit was served correctly. Cheers.

[Racer88]

Yes, Pause now does help. However, In general, I would prefer the video to be blank. Now, I have to look away from the PIL so I don't see scores or who got voted out or any other spoiler. It really only comes into play if you start the show 30-45 minutes in.

Certainly it's a preference, and I suspect that you're thoughts are more common. I just want there to be an option to take it way, not the default.

Certainly more options are a good thing and I do now better understand the problem.

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for all your efforts in maitaining the wish list as well as you do. This is a very unique and wonderful opportunity we have been given to be heard by the engineers. I hope they continue listening for a long time and make this the best DVR it can be.

[Doug Brott]

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for all you efforts in maitaining the wish list as well as you do. This is a very unique and wonderful opportunity we have been given to be heard by the engineers. I hope they continue listening for a long time and make this the best DVR it can be.

You're welcome.

[brittonx]

One of the features my old Toshiba DST3000 had which I badly miss in the HR20 was the ability to tune to ANY digital station regardless of whether or not you had guide data.

For example, if you knew of a station which was not present in the guide but you were in range of the signal, you just had to punch in their true UHF or VHF channel "Frequency Assignment" plus the "-1" and it would find the channel and then switch to the "Published" channel number.

For example, in Rochester, NY:
WHAM-DT's published channel number is 13-1
The Frequency Assignment is actually UHF channel 59
So, on the DST3000 you could punch in 59-1 and it would pick up the channel and add 13-1 to your available channels.

This was a great feature which did not rely on a scan.
Note: the DST3000 could do a scan too. The only problem with a scan is when you are in between two or more DMAs and using an antenna rotor, the scan tends to not pick up half of the channels you want.

[spunkyvision]

Enable consumer installable Hard Drive Expansion Device - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 41
I would love to be able to install 1-2 drives internally to replace the existing single drive. All of my tivos (3-SD, 1-HD) have 2 drives.

[Milominderbinder2]

Your wonderful work on this continues!

I am really liking the creativity of many of the ideas. It is great just to keep the discussion going.

My thoughts on a couple of things...

For over 40% of users, Caller ID is not working...

Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably

It has a line through it but it is far from done.

Also, I think OTA Scan is definitely promised on page 78 and is for sure missing. It is a missing promised feature by definition.

Again great work,

Craig

[loudo]

Make a remote that lights up, and works with the HR-20. I sure miss the one I had with my HLT-HD.

[Milominderbinder2]

These are two separate options for me. I do NOT want to remove the PIL but I do want the several screens of Show info TiVo shows.

-Craig
The survey includes the following two requests:

The ability to turn Picture-in-List off to prevent spoiling a broadcast that may still be in progress

Have INFO show more detail about a show (Cast, Writers, etc.) - possibly on a second screen


I'd like to propose combining these suggestions and amending them as follows:

Add a sticky toggle to disable Picture-in-List (PIL) on the To Do List and PlayList screens, selectable via the Quick Menu for these two screens, and use the extra space obtained from hiding the PIL window to display additional information about the current selected program in the list.

This would allow users to toggle off the Picture-in-List (PIL) window via an option on the Quick Menu. The status should be sticky: if a user turns PIL off and exits the screen, the next time the user returns to the screen PIL would still be off.

By hiding the PIL window, more space is available to display additional information. In addition, users can avoid seeing programs currently being recorded (spoiled) when they look at the PlayList or To Do List.

[luckycarl]

Make a remote that lights up, and works with the HR-20. I sure miss the one I had with my HLT-HD.

There is a Remote that lights up. It is a RC32RF.

[Milominderbinder2]

Am I understanding this right?

For isntance, I can set up my HR20 With Native = ON. I am watching a 1080i throught the Component out to the TV in the same room. I press Format and it allows options under 1080i. I pick Stretch.

I also have this same program going out the S-Video to another 480i TV in the next room.

Because I am in Stretch Format, it is displayed correctly on the 480i TV as well?

Is that how this works?

If so this is a big deal. I need to update the pdf on outputting to multiple TVs to show this.

- Craig
A few of us now have realized that the existing native mode isn't exactly working as it should. A real native mode should send the native signal to the TV regardless of the resolution. Right now it only does that for resolutions above 480i. We'd like to see them fix it so that this also includes 480i. As it is now, 480i gets processed into either Stretch, Crop or Pillar Box formats.

I'd recommend one additional FORMAT option called "None" that would result in 4:3 material being sent to the TV without being first processed by these formats.

This might be added as "Native Mode Support for 480i Resolution" or something similar.

You can read pages about this issue in this thread:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83058&goto=newpost

per your PM to me, the following information was determined:


You need to set "Native = On" and then, against all common sense, set "Format = Stretch".

With that combo "Stretch" apparently is coded to send native 4:3 signal out and it does.

I'm a happy camper but I cannot understand why they chose to do it that way.

Perhaps we should get the Wishlist to ask if they could make this more clear by adding another Format name that does with without being confusing.

[Doug Brott]

Your wonderful work on this continues!

Thanks.

Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably

It has a line through it but it is far from done.

I think the consensus now is that it is no longer a Missing Promised Feature, but has moved into the "bug" phase. It's almost there, but it does need more work to be complete. Hopefully it doesn't fall back in to the "wish it were fixed" category and remains on the current DirecTV TODO list.

Also, I think OTA Scan is definitely promised on page 78 and is for sure missing. It is a missing promised feature by definition.

I've added "Select the Scan for Channels button to have the receiver scan local off-air frequencies" p. 78 to the first post of this thread, and will change the classification in the HR20 Wish List on Friday. 9 out of ten people recommended this change in the Poll (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83196)

[loudo]

There is a Remote that lights up. It is a RC32RF.

Where do you see this? I searched the entire D* web site and couldn't find it.

[Doug Brott]

I've made the following wording change on the HR20 Wish List:

Press & hold Mute (or another button) to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off

is now worded

A quick way to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off - current method takes too long.

[luckycarl]

Where do you see this? I searched the entire D* web site and couldn't find it.

Goto Equipment and Services > Remotes > Universal Remotes > RF Remotes



This new remote can do everything the Infrared can do, and more. It's Radio Frequency (RF) capable* so you don't have to point your remote at your system to control it. Change channels from other rooms, fast-forward through walls and adjust volume through the floor.

* Back lit: see buttons, even in low light
* Controls your up to 4 components, including DIRECTV Receivers, TVs, VCRs and DVD players — even older models
* Memory protected: replace batteries without re-programming your remote


Only $25

[loudo]

Goto Equipment and Services > Remotes > Universal Remotes > RF Remotes

* Back lit: see buttons, even in low light


Thanks, I missed that when I went to that page, the first time. Guess I better have my first cup of coffee before I go on the computer... Thought it was just the two that I have with my HR20 and H20. They each have a different one, look the same but different model numbers. The only thing difference I can see between them is the size of the writing, on the keys.

Going to order one tomorrow.

[orum]

More control over series recordings. My UTV automatically recorded only shows within a 2 hour windows of when I originally scheduled the series record.

I would be happy if I could specify "prime time only", "any time during the day", and maybe some more options.

Right now on both my HR20 and my R15, it records all showings of a show on the selected channel no matter when it is aired. This causes my recordings list to fill up with lots of recordings (some repeated) that I don't need.

Do you think this would be a good addition to the list?

Thanks,
Dan

[Doug Brott]

More control over series recordings. My UTV automatically recorded only shows within a 2 hour windows of when I originally scheduled the series record.

I would be happy if I could specify "prime time only", "any time during the day", and maybe some more options.

Right now on both my HR20 and my R15, it records all showings of a show on the selected channel no matter when it is aired. This causes my recordings list to fill up with lots of recordings (some repeated) that I don't need.

Do you think this would be a good addition to the list?

Thanks,
Dan

This actually be a useful option for just the reasons you described. The argument to this, of course would be to do a manual recording, but I don't see why there couldn't just be one more option on the Series Link Page - just select between 3-5 different time-period choices:

All Day - default
6am - noon
noon - 6pm
6pm - midnight
midnight - 6am

It is very likely that that one additional filter item would help with a lot of these GUIDE data problems that currently exist.

It might make sense to add a day-of-the-week option also, but that might be treading too close to Manual Record that it doesn't really make sense.

[orum]

This actually be a useful option for just the reasons you described. The argument to this, of course would be to do a manual recording, but I don't see why there couldn't just be one more option on the Series Link Page - just select between 3-5 different time-period choices:

All Day - default
6am - noon
noon - 6pm
6pm - midnight
midnight - 6am

It is very likely that that one additional filter item would help with a lot of these GUIDE data problems that currently exist.

It might make sense to add a day-of-the-week option also, but that might be treading too close to Manual Record that it doesn't really make sense.


The problems with Manual Record that I have is that it won't shift at all (probably not as much of a problem for me) and that all of the recordings show up as Manual Record instead of by show name.

The way my UTV worked is that it only recorded near the time of when you set the original record for. If you wanted all showings at all times, you did a search and then set up a search record.

Dan

[Earl Bonovich]

This actually be a useful option for just the reasons you described. The argument to this, of course would be to do a manual recording, but I don't see why there couldn't just be one more option on the Series Link Page - just select between 3-5 different time-period choices:

All Day - default
6am - noon
noon - 6pm
6pm - midnight
midnight - 6am

It is very likely that that one additional filter item would help with a lot of these GUIDE data problems that currently exist.

It might make sense to add a day-of-the-week option also, but that might be treading too close to Manual Record that it doesn't really make sense.

There are a lot of different ways it "could" be done... but they are all hacks.

The solution is to get the networks to properly code their data.
LOT easier and simplier if they would just take the little bit of extra time to do it right.


The one downside to your suggestion, would be if the "1st" run window changes, outside the window you set. Then you could run into problems of missing the recording.

[Doug Brott]

There are a lot of different ways it "could" be done... but they are all hacks.

The solution is to get the networks to properly code their data.
LOT easier and simplier if they would just take the little bit of extra time to do it right.


The one downside to your suggestion, would be if the "1st" run window changes, outside the window you set. Then you could run into problems of missing the recording.

Absolutely true. Good GUIDE data is the best pill for all of these issues. Most programs usually come on during their normal viewing window, and this "hack" really wouldn't be hard to implement, IMHO. I also think that it would be very easy for the layperson to understand.

Certainly if a viewing of a semi-popular show thats gets pre-empted and then airs at 2am in the morning would be a problem. But really, how often does that happen.

[jasonblair]

Wish -

Having "Select" work like "Enter" when putting in channel numbers manually.

[NickFromWA]

I'm surprised this isn't already on the list.

Conflicts show in the guide but not in the To Do List.

See the above thread for more discussion.

[Steve]

I couldn't do this on my HR-10 either, but maybe here's a chance to fix it here with the HR-20.

I sometimes would like the option to start selected scheduled recordings later or end them early without having to schedule a manual recording. This way, a show scheduled to start at 8:59 or end at 10:01 could be forced to "behave", and not bump recordings on different channels in the hour before or after. I was very irritated when "Dancing With The Stars" ended at 10:02 last week, e.g., and blocked a tuner for a show on a different channel.

Should be very simple matter to add "reverse" options to the current start and stop time selections.

/steve

[Doug Brott]

I couldn't do this on my HR-10 either, but maybe here's a chance to fix it here with the HR-20.

I sometimes would like the option to start selected scheduled recordings later or end them early without having to schedule a manual recording. This way, a show scheduled to start at 8:59 or end at 10:01 could be forced to "behave", and not bump recordings on different channels in the hour before or after. I was very irritated when "Dancing With The Stars" ended at 10:02 last week, e.g., and blocked a tuner for a show on a different channel.

Should be very simple matter to add "reverse" options to the current start and stop time selections.

/steve

Negative Padding - The ability to automatically adjust a recording (start late/end early) by a user definable number of minutes is currently #22 on the HR20 Wish List.

[Doug Brott]

One of the features my old Toshiba DST3000 had which I badly miss in the HR20 was the ability to tune to ANY digital station regardless of whether or not you had guide data.

The ability to manually tune to an available over-the-air channel when the guide data is wrong is currently #31 on the HR20 Wish List.

I will adjust the wording slightly for this item.

[Doug Brott]

I would love to be able to install 1-2 drives internally to replace the existing single drive. All of my tivos (3-SD, 1-HD) have 2 drives.

The mechanism used for this is to add an eSATA drive. Currently, you can only replace the existing drive by adding an external eSATA drive. The Missing Promised Feature is that it should be expansion, not just replacement.

Since there isn't space inside the HR20 and the HR20 is typically leased, the current Missing Promised Feature wording: Enable consumer installable Hard Drive Expansion Device - Investor Day 2/22/06 Slide 41 should cover that sufficiently.

[Doug Brott]

Make Closed Captioning (Setup>Display Menu) work reliably

It has a line through it but it is far from done.

I think the consensus now is that it is no longer a Missing Promised Feature, but has moved into the "bug" phase. It's almost there, but it does need more work to be complete. Hopefully it doesn't fall back in to the "wish it were fixed" category and remains on the current DirecTV TODO list.

OK, I have no idea what I was thinking here ... Milominderbinder2, you are correct and this particular item is still on the Missing Promised Features list. It has never been removed. I think that I thought you were talking about Closed Captioning, which clearly you are not.

[Doug Brott]

HR20 Wish List Changes 30-Mar-2007 - Complete List of changes (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=history&survey=18) - Guidelines for changes (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80600)

Take the HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) - No registration necessary

Moved from the Top-20


#21 - Reduce Press & Hold Time for Slow, End, Jump, etc. from 3 seconds to 1.5 Seconds
#23 - Ability to schedule a program and change settings remotely over the Internet
#27 - Have INFO show more detail about a show (Cast, Writers, etc.) - possibly on a second screen

Moved to the Top-20


#4 - The HR20 should save ZIP code for weather in Active
#12 - Display the channel for shows in the Prioritizer
#13 - After pausing a program pressing and holding FF or REW continuously advances or or rewinds the program one frame at a time

Additions to the List


(MPF)"Select the Scan for Channels button to have the receiver scan local off-air frequencies" p. 78 link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83196)
Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day window for when recordings are valid link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=889896&postcount=176)
The SELECT button should act like ENTER button when keying in channel numbers link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=181)
Show conflicts in the TO DO list in addition to the GUIDE link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=875234&postcount=182)

Removed from the List


The ability to auto scan for over-the-air channels link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83196) Moved to MIssing Promised Features

Removed from the List


The ability to manually tune to an available over-the-air channel when the guide data is wrong
reworded to -> The ability to manually tune to an available over-the-air channel
Press & hold Mute (or another button) to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off
reworded to -> A quick way to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off - current method takes too long

[Michael D'Angelo]

Originally Posted by NickFromWA
Conflicts show in the guide but not in the To Do List.

Earl do you know if D* is working on this and if we could see it soon or is it something that they will get to down the road?

[Doug Brott]

I fixed a bug in the Survey Site that is hosting the HR20 Wish List today. Previously, the information that you chose would not be saved and you were forced to reenter the data. If you actually log in to SizeThis.com, then your data will be saved and visible regardless of the computer you are on.

This will work to some degree if you are not logged in. If you mistype the verification code, then the data that you just entered will almost certainly be there, though.

If you haven't yet taken the HR20 Wish List Survey, please click on the following URL: http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18

[Drew2k]

Doug - I don't know if you intended this, but I just went to take the survey and the following items have the radio-button for the highest value pre-selected:

The ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal

Multi-Room Viewing via the Ethernet Port

Dual Live Buffers - Toggle between two live shows with 30+ minute buffers on each.

Enable USB ports for keyboard use in searches, game lounge, etc

Ability to output 16:9 content as letterboxed on HDMI/Component and 4:3 content as fullscreen on S-Video/composite at the same time

[Doug Brott]

Doug - I don't know if you intended this, but I just went to take the survey and the following items have the radio-button for the highest value pre-selected:

The intention is that the items that you chose in the past should be preselected for you. when new items are added, they will, of course, be empty, but previously selected items should have the same value as you chose the last time.

It was supposed to have been doing this all along, but I introduced a bug 2 weeks ago that kept it from working properly.

[DawgLink]

Maybe this is put above but when I search for a program and I want to record all of its eposides, I want all channels to apply for that show...not just the channel I am on for that show

[loudo]

Doug, should this be added to List 1 - Missing Promised Features or could it be a new Wish List addition?

Have the program guide display and entire 2 weeks of programing, as it now shows between 12 and 13 days, with "To Be Announced" filling in the rest of the time slots, to complete the entire 14 days.

[Doug Brott]

Maybe this is put above but when I search for a program and I want to record all of its eposides, I want all channels to apply for that show...not just the channel I am on for that show

Allow Autorecord after a Search by Title as described in the manual on pp. 20 & 31 is currently on the Missing Promised Features list.

The item that you are looking for is Autorecord (similar to TiVo's WishList functionality). Unfortunately, this item does not work correctly at this time. I do know that DirecTV is aware of the problem so at this point, we can only wait.

[Doug Brott]

Doug, should this be added to List 1 - Missing Promised Features or could it be a new Wish List addition?

Have the program guide display and entire 2 weeks of programing, as it now shows between 12 and 13 days, with "To Be Announced" filling in the rest of the time slots, to complete the entire 14 days.

I understand what you are saying. The statement is really "up to" 14 days. The remaining 1-2 days of data that you are looking for is actually in the past. TiVo makes this information available to you in the guide so that you can go back in time. The HR20 does not make this data available to you. Since the EPG data really doesn't go a true 14 days into the future, there is no way that you can have guide data from that far in the future.

I do think that it would make sense to have all available data viewable, though.

[Drew2k]

The intention is that the items that you chose in the past should be preselected for you. when new items are added, they will, of course, be empty, but previously selected items should have the same value as you chose the last time.

It was supposed to have been doing this all along, but I introduced a bug 2 weeks ago that kept it from working properly.Ah, I understand the intent, now, but maybe there is still a bug? There were only 5 items with values filled-in, but I always fill-in ever item, so shouldn't the entire list have been filled in? Also, I know I did not choose HIGHEST for at least one of the items that were pre-filled in for me ....

Oh well, no worries! :)

[Drewg5]

Now I would like to add something to the wish list.

When tuned to an XM station, instead of the screen saver coming up, how about putting the screen to sleep (most of us use our Dolby 5.1 systems anyways). I know this works on LCD TV's, others I dont know.

Thanks,
Drew

[DawgLink]

Allow Autorecord after a Search by Title as described in the manual on pp. 20 & 31 is currently on the Missing Promised Features list.

The item that you are looking for is Autorecord (similar to TiVo's WishList functionality). Unfortunately, this item does not work correctly at this time. I do know that DirecTV is aware of the problem so at this point, we can only wait.

Thanks, brott. I sometimes get confused with the wording :hurah:

[Steve]

Right now when I search for House, e.g., the first results screen returns a list of House on 5 different channels. When I select House on the channel I want to record, I get a list of episodes on all 5 channels and have to sometimes scroll and scroll to get to the channel I thought I already specified after my first search. Shouldn't the selection after the first results screen filter the episodes list and only display the show on the channel that was selected? Am I doing something wrong? Or am I mistaking a feature for a bug? TIA. /Steve

EDIT: Maybe a wish list item could read:

Limit final search results to show on selected channel.

[burnt_soul]

Maybe this is overkill, but maybe there should be a way to indicate, for some features, that I am opposed to the implementation of those features.

In other words, right now I interpret the scale to mean: 1= I don't care about this feature at all; 5= I desperately want this feature to be implemented. However, for some features, I would rather vote "please don't make this change". For instance, a confirmation on dash-dash; that would be a terrible decrease in usability. I hate being prompted for an action which I just initiated. _I_ initiated it, just do it! A much better solution to the same problem is to have an option to undelete (also an item in the wishlist). That way it doesn't drive you batty with confirmations, and if you make a mistake, you can still easily recover.

You could argue that such features could be configurable; however, the counter to that argument is that ultimate configurability is a hassle. If there were a configuration option for everything, the config menus would be huge and confusing.

[orum]

There are a lot of different ways it "could" be done... but they are all hacks.

The solution is to get the networks to properly code their data.
LOT easier and simplier if they would just take the little bit of extra time to do it right.


The one downside to your suggestion, would be if the "1st" run window changes, outside the window you set. Then you could run into problems of missing the recording.

Well... I don't know if I would say hack. If you select series record on a Tivo, does it record every episode that happens on that channel regardless of time of day?

I never owned a Tivo, but on my UTV, it only recorded the ones that were near the original recording in time of day.

2 recording I have particular problems with are General Hospital Yesterday on SOAPNet and Nothing but Trailers. Both of these record every episode all day on their channels. I don't think SOAPNet considers its shows to be first run or repeats, and I don't thienk Nothing but Trailers has this metadate either.

The soapnet one is a little more troubling because it uses up the 5 program slots with the same episode in multiple slots (I think twice a day). If my wife realizes in a few days that ABC news cut into the soap, the GH Yesterday for that particular day has been overwritten.

If a manual recording showed up under the show name, that would probably also solve my problem as these examples don't change in time much and I could do manual records for them.

Dan

[Wisegoat]

I would like Discrete Codes for the following:

Format (48oi, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p (future?)
Menu Items (setup, config, etc.)

It would make programming my Pronto much easier.

[mateom199]

I would like the ability to tune to OTA channels when there is no satellite signal. In a recent snow storm, all satellite signal was knocked out - the HR20 refused to allow me
to watch OTA until sat came back. Kind of silly if you ask me. OTA is, of course, a good backup for those occasional weather interruptions.

[Doug Brott]

I would like the ability to tune to OTA channels when there is no satellite signal. In a recent snow storm, all satellite signal was knocked out - the HR20 refused to allow me
to watch OTA until sat came back. Kind of silly if you ask me. OTA is, of course, a good backup for those occasional weather interruptions.

The ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal is currently #1 on the HR20 Wish List (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=18).

Click here (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) to add your vote.

[mateom199]

The ability to watch recordings when there's no satellite signal is currently #1 on the HR20 Wish List (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=18).

Click here (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) to add your vote.

Yes I noticed that, but I thought that my request is different enough to warrant a separate item. Hopefully both items will be resolved!

[Doug Brott]

Yes I noticed that, but I thought that my request is different enough to warrant a separate item. Hopefully both items will be resolved!

Ahh, fair enough.

There is another item on the HR20 Wish List that presumably would cover this situation if it were implemented.

The ability to manually tune to an available over-the-air channel is currently #33. One would assume that if this item worked and the #1 item worked that your problem would be solved. I think that we are covered, but you are right in that the #1 item is not the same thing.

[Steve]

We need a simpler way to directly tune to the HD version of a channel that is available both in SD and HD, similar to the ".1" that is appended to OTA HD channels. Right now, if you punch in 622, you get YES SD, and have to channel-up to YES HD.

Even if the CIR list gets fixed, you may not want to remove the SD version of a channel because, if that channel is broadcasting 4:3, you prefer to watch the SD version to make use of your display's anamorphic stretch capability.

In the YES example, perhaps D* could assign 622 to the SD version, and either 622-, 622-1, or 6222 to the HD version, e.g.? (I'm thinking the '-' after might replace the 'H' in the channel # list.) Just my .02. Others may have better ideas on how to accomplish this.

/steve

[Michael D'Angelo]

We need a simpler way to directly tune to the HD version of a channel that is available both in SD and HD, similar to the ".1" that is appended to OTA HD channels. Right now, if you punch in 622, you get YES SD, and have to channel-up to YES HD.

Even if the CIR list gets fixed, you may not want to remove the SD version of a channel because, if that channel is broadcasting 4:3, you prefer to watch the SD version to make use of your display's anamorphic stretch capability.

In the YES example, perhaps D* could assign 622 to the SD version, and either 622-, 622-1, or 6222 to the HD version, e.g.? (I'm thinking the '-' after might replace the 'H' in the channel # list.) Just my .02. Others may have better ideas on how to accomplish this.

/steve

My RSN is not in HD so I am not sure but when you change the channel it does not go to the HD channel first like with the local HD channels.

[Steve]

My RSN is not in HD so I am not sure but when you change the channel it does not go to the HD channel first like with the local HD channels.Same with me. 2 goes to HD-2, but 622 goes to SD 622. Either way, I believe we need a way to tune directly to either one, so they shouldn't have the same designation. If 622H is what D* is now calling it, maybe the '-' can replace the 'H', and 622- will tune to the HD version directly, while 622 tunes to the SD version. Same with CBS in NY. '2' gets the SD version, '2-' gets the HD version. Just a thought. /steve

[Michael D'Angelo]

I wonder If D* would be able to set it up where instead of hitting enter after the channel number you would hit the green button it goes to the HD channel and if you hit the yellow button it goes to the SD channel.

[Steve]

Right now when I search for House, e.g., the first results screen returns a list of House on 5 different channels. When I select House on the channel I want to record, I get a list of episodes on all 5 channels and have to sometimes scroll and scroll to get to the channel I thought I already specified after my first search. Shouldn't the selection after the first results screen filter the episodes list and only display the show on the channel that was selected? Am I doing something wrong? Or am I mistaking a feature for a bug? TIA. /Steve

EDIT: Maybe a wish list item could read:

Limit final search results to show on selected channel.

I posted a POLL (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=84346) for this one with a better explanation of the problem I think needs solving. Thx. /steve

[drjjr]

Now I would like to add something to the wish list.

When tuned to an XM station, instead of the screen saver coming up, how about putting the screen to sleep (most of us use our Dolby 5.1 systems anyways). I know this works on LCD TV's, others I dont know.

Thanks,
Drew

I'd like to be able to set up a slideshow of my photos for a screensaver.

[drjjr]

I posted a POLL (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=84346) for this one with a better explanation of the problem I think needs solving. Thx. /steve

Along with this, a ReplayTV feature that I liked allowed me to set the day(s) of the week for a recording. LIke if I want the Today show for M-F but don't want it on the weekend, I could check those days and uncheck Sat-Sun.

[Doug Brott]

I'd like to be able to set up a slideshow of my photos for a screensaver.

Option to use photos from your media server for the screen saver when available is currently #56 on the HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=18).

Click here (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) to take the HR20 Wish List Survey and let DirecTV know your wish.

[drjjr]

Option to use photos from your media server for the screen saver when available is currently #56 on the HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=results&survey=18).

Click here (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) to take the HR20 Wish List Survey and let DirecTV know your wish.


Yes I noticed this when I took the survey after I posted that. Next time I'll read the actual list first :D

[GollyGee]

When selecting a program in the Guide that has ended, the Guide should tune to the channel, and not display a "show has ended" message.

Example:
It is currently 9:50.
A program on HBO ended at 9:45.
When I scroll to HBO in the Guide and press Select... I don't tune to HBO! I get a message explaining that the program is no longer showing.
Press Exit, the Guide appears, scroll to HBO, scroll to the right, press Select, and now I can watch HBO.
Very frustrating.

[Steve]

This poll (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=84346) indicates that most people agree that when searching, the final search should only return episodes of the selected program on the channel-network selected in the preliminary search.

I'm hopeful this item can be added to the wish list. Thx.

/steve

EDIT: Fixed the link above. Sorry 'bout that.

[kevinturcotte]

A way to specify if a Search should be kept or not BEFORE it replaces another search (If you already have 25). I guess maybe a way to separate general, everyday searches and searches I want kept (Yes, I'm trying to find a work around for Wishlists).

[Steve]

I didn't realize the limit was 25.

Perhaps there could be an option to "Keep this search" on the final results screen. Or the ability to use the "keep" button on the "saved searches" screen, much like you can with recorded shows on the "list" screen. /steve

[Doug Brott]

HR20 Wish List Changes 06-Apr-2007 - Complete List of changes (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=history&survey=18) - Guidelines for changes (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80600)

Take the HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) - No registration necessary

Moved from the Top-20


#21 - Make the EXIT key only clear an on screen graphic when viewing a recording - No matter how many times you hit EXIT in a recorded program, is should NOT exit to Live TV
#22 - Improve the channel banner lag time - currently it can take up to 3 seconds before the title catches up to the channels
#23 - Pressing the Format button should bring up a listing menu of formats to choose from rather than cycling through the list.
#31 - After pausing a program pressing and holding FF or REW continuously advances or or rewinds the program one frame at a time

Moved to the Top-20


#3 - Show conflicts in the TO DO list in addition to the GUIDE
#17 - Ability to schedule a program and change settings remotely over the Internet
#18 - Reduce Press & Hold Time for Slow, End, Jump, etc. from 3 seconds to 1.5 Seconds
#20 - Negative Padding - The ability to automatically adjust a recording (start late/end early) by a user definable number of minutes

Additions to the List


When searching by title, limit final search results to the selected channel. link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=893992#post893992)
Make use of the DASH key to more quickly access multi-format stations (e.g: 2-1 for MPEG4, 2-2 for MPEG2, 2-3 for OTA channel 2) link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=897868)
When selecting a program in the Guide that has ended, the Guide should tune to the channel, and not display a "show has ended" message. link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=898854)

Removed from the List


Nothing

Wording Changes
Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day window for when recordings are valid
-- Changed to --
Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day and/or day-of-week window for when recordings are valid

[KapnKrunch]

I've searched this thread, and didn't see any mention of this. Just in case it's not here, how about adding a feature that existed on the HR10-250? That is, include a "Keep At Most" option for all MANUAL recordings?

This should be a VERY simple change.

Currently, all manual HR20 recordings must be "manually managed" to delete old episodes. I record Greta and O'reilly using MANUAL because a SERIES recording results in multiple recording episodes each day, even if "FIRST RUN" is selected.

The "Keep At Most" function neatly eliminates this problem, and doesn't have us waiting for the networks to properly flag "first run" and "repeat" episodes.

[kevinturcotte]

Not sure if it does this or not, it may (I haven't seen it though). Whenever there's a scheduling conflict, instead of you having to manually go in and search for them, you should get a message saying there's a recording conflict, what the conflict, maybe even suggest future airings to grab.
Course, this wouldn't be intrusive, like pop ups on the net. You'd just notice you have a new message, go in and check it out if you want. Not really sure how the messages work though, haven't received any.

[Steve]

Not sure if it does this or not, it may (I haven't seen it though). Whenever there's a scheduling conflict, instead of you having to manually go in and search for them, you should get a message saying there's a recording conflict, what the conflict, maybe even suggest future airings to grab.
Course, this wouldn't be intrusive, like pop ups on the net. You'd just notice you have a new message, go in and check it out if you want. Not really sure how the messages work though, haven't received any.I like this idea a lot. There's nothing worse than finding out something you were counting on seeing did not record. Especially when multiple users in the same household may be adding their own series links.

What would be even more cool would be for your network-connected HR20 to send important notification e-mails to a specified address!

/steve

[Drew2k]

Poster's Note: I'll be completing this list later today or tomorrow ... I'm suffering a bit of Strep Throat just now and need to take care of that firstHey Doug... Hope you're feeling better!

[Doug Brott]

Hey Doug... Hope you're feeling better!

Thanks Drew. Fortunately, I'm not feeling too bad because I'm certain I caught it within 24 hours. Just leads to things like going to the Doctor, getting antibiotics, staying away from people, etc. etc.


I'm back on the job now ... I'll go ahead and complete this weeks task and finish up the post.

[Doug Brott]

Now I would like to add something to the wish list.

When tuned to an XM station, instead of the screen saver coming up, how about putting the screen to sleep (most of us use our Dolby 5.1 systems anyways). I know this works on LCD TV's, others I dont know.

Thanks,
Drew

I'm not sure how this would work. Could this be done over component or composite, or would it require HDMI? This might be something that is problematic in practice even though it sounds reasonable. Do any others have thoughts?

[Doug Brott]

Maybe this is overkill, but maybe there should be a way to indicate, for some features, that I am opposed to the implementation of those features.

In other words, right now I interpret the scale to mean: 1= I don't care about this feature at all; 5= I desperately want this feature to be implemented. However, for some features, I would rather vote "please don't make this change". For instance, a confirmation on dash-dash; that would be a terrible decrease in usability. I hate being prompted for an action which I just initiated. _I_ initiated it, just do it! A much better solution to the same problem is to have an option to undelete (also an item in the wishlist). That way it doesn't drive you batty with confirmations, and if you make a mistake, you can still easily recover.

You could argue that such features could be configurable; however, the counter to that argument is that ultimate configurability is a hassle. If there were a configuration option for everything, the config menus would be huge and confusing.

This suggestion seems more like you want an Anti-Wish List. That's a fair suggestion, but I would rather keep this list as a Wish List. If you don't like the item as worded, give it the lowest value and the rankings should line up accordingly.

[Doug Brott]

I would like Discrete Codes for the following:

Format (48oi, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p (future?)
Menu Items (setup, config, etc.)

It would make programming my Pronto much easier.

Pressing the Format button should bring up a listing menu of formats to choose from rather than cycling through the list. is currently #22 on the HR20 Wish List. I suspect that if this were implemented, that you Pronto would be easier to program.

[Doug Brott]

Along with this, a ReplayTV feature that I liked allowed me to set the day(s) of the week for a recording. LIke if I want the Today show for M-F but don't want it on the weekend, I could check those days and uncheck Sat-Sun.

We considered this before in the following item:

Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day window for when recordings are valid

It probably makes sense to go ahead and add it to this same item, so I will revise the wording as follows:

Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day and/or day-of-week window for when recordings are valid

[kevinturcotte]

We considered this before in the following item:

Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day window for when recordings are valid

It probably makes sense to go ahead and add it to this same item, so I will revise the wording as follows:

Additional Series Link Option to select time-of-day and/or day-of-week window for when recordings are valid

I don't use manual recordings much, but this would be really good for programs that are on late at night/early morning, and technically run Tuesday-Saturday.

[Drew2k]

Glad you're feeling better Doug!


I'm not sure how this would work. Could this be done over component or composite, or would it require HDMI? This might be something that is problematic in practice even though it sounds reasonable. Do any others have thoughts?I know for me, putting the screen to sleep wouldn't work, because with an HDMI connection from my HR20 to the TV, the TV has to be ON to send audio out to my AV receiver. I can't imagine there is any HD TV that allows the screen to be off while the speakers stay active or the audio-out continues to output signals.

[rbiro]

I love that I can queue up 30-second skips and it tells me how many I have queued up in total.
However, I would prefer if that on-screen number decremented after each complete 30-second skip.
That is, it should show me how many 30-seocnds skips to go. That way, as I queue up 5 or 8 or 10 skips (depending on average length of commercial breaks) I would know when I need to start paying attention again

[oldguy1]

While dog sitting for my daughter (at her house) while she was out of town, I realized I didn't have my h20's set to record a couple of shows while I was away.

It would be nice to be able to set up the hr20 over the internet to record shows.

And even to change other options remotely.

[Drew2k]

I love that I can queue up 30-second skips and it tells me how many I have queued up in total.
However, I would prefer if that on-screen number decremented after each complete 30-second skip.
That is, it should show me how many 30-seocnds skips to go. That way, as I queue up 5 or 8 or 10 skips (depending on average length of commercial breaks) I would know when I need to start paying attention againI was just thinking of this yesterday! :)

[Doug Brott]

While dog sitting for my daughter (at her house) while she was out of town, I realized I didn't have my h20's set to record a couple of shows while I was away.

It would be nice to be able to set up the hr20 over the internet to record shows.

And even to change other options remotely.

Ability to schedule a program and change settings remotely over the Internet is currently #14 on the HR20 Wish List.

[Steve]

... it would be VERY cool if my network-connected HR20 could e-mail me when a scheduling conflict is going to bump a series link recording, especially when the conflict is going to be caused by one of those network "10:01" end times. Or if upcoming conflicts could be logged, even a daily e-mail of this log would be great.

Probably wouldn't be a huge amount of work to put in a few lines of SMTP code to achieve this... says me! :)

/steve

[theboomslang]

How about a separate button for closed caption or the oppurtunity for cc when muted

[patyoung]

I'm not sure if this has been talked about, but I've had my unit for a while now and I think they could improve the FF speeds and skip.

First, the single speed just isn't enough faster than live TV to be worthwhile for me. Does anyone ever use this?

Second, I'd like a smoother display of the picture at the x2 and x3 speeds. I understand for x4 that might be too much. Seems like it can definitely be done because when you do the 30 second skip that is much smoother (meaning is shows more frames for a smaller amount of time than less frames that stay on the screen longer).

Third, I see there is an item for improving skip to tick mark and that is a high priority to me (second only to channels I receive being worthless), seems to me they ought to use other keys for this - maybe the red and green makes sense since that is tab forward/back when using menus - make it skip forward/back when watching TV or if you are already FF or Rewinding.

Anyway, I know that might not be a top of the list thing, but it does get a bit annoying.

[Steve]

Anyway, I know that might not be a top of the list thing, but it does get a bit annoying.I'm with you 100%. I've been a user for a couple of weeks now, and have almost completely forgotten my beloved Tivo-based HR10-250's... except for any time I try to FF through a commercial and stop in the right spot!

With the HR10's, at 3x FF, I could nail the restart of the show after commercial within a second or two almost 100% of the time. After literally 100's of tries in the past 2 weeks, even using the Instant Replay (IR) button to stop, I still overshoot by 15-20 seconds with the HR20, and I see no improvement with more practice in my future.

What might help is if pressing the IR button would result in more than a 6 second replay. Probably a good subject for a poll. I'll bet that anyone using this button to stop a FF advance never presses it less than 2-3 times, if not more.

/steve

[Steve]

Looks like a majority of the HR20 users who responded to this poll (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=909406&postcount=1) agree that a Replay button time of 6 seconds is too short. I wonder if we could add this to the wish list?

Selectable Replay button time. (E.g., "Default, or 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 seconds).

Thanks,

/steve

[Doug Brott]

How about a separate button for closed caption or the oppurtunity for cc when muted

A quick way to toggle Closed Captioning On or Off - current method takes too long. is currently #33 on the HR20 Wish List

[Doug Brott]

I'm not sure if this has been talked about, but I've had my unit for a while now and I think they could improve the FF speeds and skip.

First, the single speed just isn't enough faster than live TV to be worthwhile for me. Does anyone ever use this?

Second, I'd like a smoother display of the picture at the x2 and x3 speeds. I understand for x4 that might be too much. Seems like it can definitely be done because when you do the 30 second skip that is much smoother (meaning is shows more frames for a smaller amount of time than less frames that stay on the screen longer).

This has been talked about in various forms. I'll add this as:

Improve the smoothness of the display when using FF and REW.

Third, I see there is an item for improving skip to tick mark and that is a high priority to me (second only to channels I receive being worthless), seems to me they ought to use other keys for this - maybe the red and green makes sense since that is tab forward/back when using menus - make it skip forward/back when watching TV or if you are already FF or Rewinding.

Anyway, I know that might not be a top of the list thing, but it does get a bit annoying.

Improve Skip-to-Tick feature - include tick mark @ start/end of recording and use 30-second-skip as skip-to-tick button during FF and REW is currently #6 on the HR20 Wish List.

[Doug Brott]

HR20 Wish List Changes 13-Apr-2007 - Complete List of changes (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=history&survey=18) - Guidelines for changes (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80600)

Take the HR20 Wish List Survey (http://www.sizethis.com/index.php?module=survey&survey=18) - No registration necessary

Moved from the Top-20


#21 - In all menus, the Left Arrow should function like the BACK button and in menus that don't have a right screen pane, the RIGHT Arrow should function like the SELECT button

Moved to the Top-20


#19 - Pressing the Format button should bring up a listing menu of formats to choose from rather than cycling through the list.

Additions to the List


Include a "Keep At Most" option for all manual recordings link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=901812)
Receive messages in Calls & Msgs when there are scheduling conflicts so you don't have to manually search for them link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=901818)
The 30 SECOND SLIP queues clicks and notes the number on the screen. It should decrement by one as each 30 SECOND SLIP is completed. link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=906953)
Improve the smoothness of the display when using FF and REW. link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=908764)
Selectable Replay button time. (E.g., "Default, or 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 seconds). link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=909676)

Removed from the List


Nothing

[DJSooner]

Folks,

Now let me know what you think.


What additional items do you want on the new HR20 Wish List?
What changes do you want to see to the guidelines?


Thank you for your feedback.
I don't see this on the list and it is something that would really be nice for me. Often I don't finish watching a recording at the same time. I may take a break from it and sometimes don't finish watching until the next day.

When I come back to the list of recordings, I have no idea which one I didn't finish. It always comes back to the top of the list. I realize any recording that you started to watch is then greyed, but it would be nice if that one were selected when you come back to the list. Thanks..

[Doug Brott]

I don't see this on the list and it is something that would really be nice for me. Often I don't finish watching a recording at the same time. I may take a break from it and sometimes don't finish watching until the next day.

When I come back to the list of recordings, I have no idea which one I didn't finish. It always comes back to the top of the list. I realize any recording that you started to watch is then greyed, but it would be nice if that one were selected when you come back to the list. Thanks..

Always return to most recently accessed position on My Playlist when using LIST is currently #15 on the HR20 Wish List.

This is in my personal Top-3 .. this one always bugs me.

[sojourn]

I wish that the digital HDMI/Optical outputs would be disabled when the HR20 is in standby mode. My A/V receiver analog inputs are shut off when a digital signal is active which reduces the capability of the A/V receiver to accept multiple component inputs.
Example, my Onkyo 803B had my Xbox 360 on analog audio on Video 1 and my HR10-250 on Video 1 digital optical. As long as the HR10-250 was in standby, the XBox would be usable. Now that the HR20-700 occupies the same hookup as I had with the Tivo, my XBox had to move to a different input so that the audio signal wasn't stepped on by the HR20. It has really reduced how much stuff I can hook up to my Onkyo.

[Drew2k]

I'd like to request a new Wishlist item.

Add "Category" as a new top-level Search Type on the Search Menu.

We can currently search by Title, Person, Keyword, or Channel, but it would be great to create a Category search for "SHOW TYPE / PREMIERE", for example.

[lucky13]

Extra Innings and Center Ice typically provide a 6-hour window for their games, which should allow for a considerable number of actual extra innings or overtime playoff periods.
I've noticed when watching a game after it has concluded that the progress bar will truncate before the 6-hour mark. I believe this is coincides with the point at which the broadcast is replaced with the DTV logo.
The plus side of this is that less of your disk space is filled up with needless padding.
The downside is that the progress bar clues the viewer to the length of the contest.
If you're watching a game still tied after the top of the 15th inning, and only 5 minutes remain in the progress bar, you have a pretty good idea the game isn't making it into the 16th, and therefore you know who wins before you see the result.
This is an unwanted and unnecessary spoiler.
So: The progress bar should reflect the full time of the scheduled recording, even after the sportspak program ends, to avoid spilling the game result.

[Steve]

I'd like to request a new Wishlist item.

Add "Category" as a new top-level Search Type on the Search Menu.

We can currently search by Title, Person, Keyword, or Channel, but it would be great to create a Category search for "SHOW TYPE / PREMIERE", for example.+1