HR20 Subs: Do you own a Mac or PC? (Take 2)

[machavez00]

This not a Mac vs PC poll. What I want to know, as HR20 subs only, do you own a Mac or a PC and do you want to stream Mac media to the HR20. I think as HR20 subs, we are are a larger group than the general population as a whole. Once we get a good idea of where we are as a percentage of the HR20 population via DBSTalk, perhaps Earl can give this information to his D* contacts.

The last poll was open for only a week and showed almost 36% of the 182 responders owned a Mac, and almost 18% owned both. That is well over 50% of 182 responders who have a Mac in their home.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=75056

Please this is NOT a Mac vs PC thread.

[HDTVsportsfan]

PC. Multiples.

[houskamp]

PC. Multiples.

same here last count 6 plus lots of parts..

[npm]

Mac x 6! I do run Parallels on my Intel machines with Windows XP SP2.

[BobV]

2 PC Desktops, 1 PC notebook, and 1 Moto Q PDA.:D

[HDTVsportsfan]

same here last count 6 plus lots of parts..
lol..
Do you actually have a use or use them all?

[txn88]

Just remember this quote....

"Never ask a man what computer he uses. If it's a Mac, he'll tell you. If it's not, why embarrass him?" - Tom Clancy

[Milominderbinder2]

Apple Insider: Mac Market Share to drop to 2.3% (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2491)

So you are left with one of two realities.

1. Apple sold 100 million Macs over the weekend.

- or -

2. The people who read magazines or threads about Macs are likely to own one. 93 of them.

- Craig

[byron]

why not an option for both?


c. Both

[oakwcj]

I run a PC, but I don't do Windows -- except through VMware. Where in your poll can I choose Fedora or another Linux distro?

[machavez00]

I run a PC, but I don't do Windows -- except through VMware. Where in your poll can I choose Fedora or another Linux distro?

I am trying to gage the percent of Mac owners in the the HR20 lease population. I had an option for both in the first poll but I want to know what is the computer you use at home. I realize many people have both because they need one for work related stuff.

[machavez00]

:beatdeadhorse: Apple Insider: Mac Market Share to drop to 2.3% (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2491)

- Craig

Yes I know. you made a similar post in the last poll

So far, this sampling shows that for the quarter million HR20 users:

100% of HR20 owners have at least 1 computer....
- Craig

This in not a Mac vs PC thread.:beatdeadhorse: I know there are Mac people and PC people and never the twain shall meet. Please do not turn this into a Mac sucks or PC sucks thread. I trying to get a number that Earl can give to his D* contact.

[BJM]

Voted Mac.

I actually own a PC laptop which I used at my previous job, and which only gets used when I travel now (which is rare).

[fpd917]

Two Macs here!!

[Ken S]

We have five active PCs.

Thinkpad T42 running XP Pro
Thinkpad T41 running XP Pro
Dell 430SC Server running Server 2003 SBS
Thinkpad R32 running XP Pro
Home Built Machine running XP Pro

There are a couple of others in the closet including an Olivetti M10 :)

[jgrade]

Also vote for C: Multiple of both.

[Earl Bonovich]

Here are some things I can tell you:

1) They are not specifically "excluding" MACs as there are people on the HR20 development that also own MACs

2) Their are a lot of "headaches" (for lack of a better word)... because of licensing/royalties and a bunch of "non-technical" factors

3) Content protection and "codecs" are a major concern for them...

FYI: The recent ruling against Microsoft for MP3s... Has caught their eye... so now they are going back to make sure everything is "okay"...

[machavez00]

Here are some things I can tell you:

1) They are not specifically "excluding" MACs as there are people on the HR20 development that also own MACs

2) Their are a lot of "headaches" (for lack of a better word)... because of licensing/royalties and a bunch of "non-technical" factors

3) Content protection and "codecs" are a major concern for them...

FYI: The recent ruling against Microsoft for MP3s... Has caught their eye... so now they are going back to make sure everything is "okay"...

Thanks. I don't mean to imply that D* is excluding us. We may not be high on the priority list.

BTW per requests, please ad option for both and other(*nix etc)

[NYSmoker]

Where is the option for both?!? :D

[NYSmoker]

Here are some things I can tell you:

1) They are not specifically "excluding" MACs as there are people on the HR20 development that also own MACs

2) Their are a lot of "headaches" (for lack of a better word)... because of licensing/royalties and a bunch of "non-technical" factors

3) Content protection and "codecs" are a major concern for them...

FYI: The recent ruling against Microsoft for MP3s... Has caught their eye... so now they are going back to make sure everything is "okay"...



Earl it is Mac not MAC. Just a little Apple nitpicking

[Earl Bonovich]

Sorry on the MAC piece...

As for the poll... I have added the combinations, and totally reset the poll... so you can vote properly

[machavez00]

Sorry on the MAC piece...

As for the poll... I have added the combinations, and totally reset the poll... so you can vote properly

Thank you.:D

[waynebtx]

3 PCs and 1 Laptop all XP PRO SP2.

[redfiver]

Earl it is Mac not MAC. Just a little Apple nitpicking

Not really nitpicking.. MAC is a computer term used by PCs and Macs, really anything that is networkable (is that a word? :) ) Stands for Media Access Control which is the unique identifier for most network adapters.

I've seen people get confused by that more than once.

As for me: 3 Macs, 2 PC, and parallels on my intel based Macs. since parallels came around (especially coherence!!), the PCs sit unused.

[Milominderbinder2]

This in not a Mac vs PC thread...I trying to get a number that Earl can give to his D* contact.
In no way am I comparing Macs to PCs. Both are in my house.

Mac has a 2.3% marketshare.

A quarter million HR20 users is a sufficient sample to represent the whole.

- Craig

[DishDog]

Well I don't know if I voted correctly. All Macs but they run XP Pro SP2 as well as running Tiger. I voted Both but??

[DCSholtis]

2 iMacs and 1 MacBookPro here.

[macEarl]

Apple Insider: Mac Market Share to drop to 2.3% (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2491)

So you are left with one of two realities. You misspelled three. :)

1. Apple sold 100 million Macs over the weekend.

- or -

2. The people who read magazines or threads about Macs are likely to own one. 93 of them.


- or -

3. The percentage of D* subs owning Macs does not map linearly to the percentage of the general population owning Macs.

Drive down the streets in my town. D* is not the norm, nor is it evenly distributed.

(Edit - I answered based on our home use only, if it helps any......)

[DishDog]

2 iMacs and 1 MacBookPro here.

Looking back at your posts Dan, there's a definite eruditeness about them.:sunsmile:

PS You wouldn't have the Core 2 Duo MBP would you?

Pete

[DCSholtis]

Looking back at your posts Dan, there's a definite eruditeness about them.:sunsmile:

PS You wouldn't have the Core 2 Duo MBP would you?

Pete

Yep the MBP is indeed a Core 2 Duo MBP, running Boot Camp and XP. The iMacs are the older PPC models all running OS 10.4 anxiously awaiting Leopard. Slightly off topic here but Earl do you know if the soon to be released Apple TV box would somehow be compatible with the HR20?? Thanks.

[Ed Campbell]

I realize it would be great if [and when] D* sorted out the inclusion of Mac users in their plans. I intend to maintain my involvement with the CE group [for example] wherever it leads.

Meanwhile, I intend to upgrade to 80211.n, anyway, mostly to extend the range of my wireless network. And, most likely, I'll experiment with the Apple TV box when it ships in a couple weeks. If no one else reports back on their results with that permutation -- then, I will.

I'm a geek, user -- and a couple other niches in my job description that have to do with technology -- but, product reviews aren't my forte or essential interest.

I have to say that -- after 24 years online/computing -- generally a firm doesn't program for a useful platform because they don't think it necessary. The other excuses are excuses. For example, The folks who founded Napster and Skype are now developing Joost for streaming TV. When they began beta testing, several weeks ago, they didn't include OS X or Linux as available platforms.

Responding to beta test volunteers -- they decided to add OS X and did so -- within 4 weeks. And they're moving forward with Linux. [Oh -- and if coffee break photos I've seen are legit -- the sum total of programming staff is about 6-10!].

Let's face it, we wouldn't be saddled with HDMI [and the required HDCP] if it weren't for lawyers running the show instead of systems designers.

[Michael D'Angelo]

2 Laptops with Vista

2 Laptops with XP

2 Home PC's with XP

2 PDA's with Windows 5.0

[machavez00]

bump

[Evan702]

iMac G3

iMac G5

MacBook Pro (Core2Duo) w/OS X & XP Pro sp2 using VMware's Fusion beta. I only use XP for things that absolutely require Windows.

[machavez00]

iMac G3

iMac G5

MacBook Pro (Core2Duo) w/OS X & XP Pro sp2 using VMware's Fusion beta. I only use XP for things that absolutely require Windows.

iMac G3? I bought one after my LC II died. I had to upgrade because it was obsolete before I took it out of the box!

[ldmth44]

This not a Mac vs PC poll. What I want to know, as HR20 subs only, do you own a Mac or a PC and do you want to stream Mac media to the HR20. I think as HR20 subs, we are are a larger group than the general population as a whole. Once we get a good idea of where we are as a percentage of the HR20 population via DBSTalk, perhaps Earl can give this information to his D* contacts.

The last poll was open for only a week and showed almost 36% of the 182 responders owned a Mac, and almost 18% owned both. That is well over 50% of 182 responders who have a Mac in their home.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=75056

Please this is NOT a Mac vs PC thread.

3 Dell notebooks (1 Windows Vista Ultimate and 2 Windows SP2), 1 Gateway desktop (Windows SP2).

[bobnielsen]

One Mac Mini (PPC) on my desk (which I plan to upgrade to an Intel Mac) and two Linux PCs in the garage for ham radio use. Both the Mini and one of the Linux boxes have OTA HD tuners and I can dump 480i A/V onto the Mini. One of the Linux boxes will dual-boot 98SE if needed and the Mini has VirtualPC with XP (and is it ever slow!)

I'd like to see HR20 networking become compatible with either iTunes or VLC (a multiplatform video app with both client and some server capabilities). I'm not really impressed with Twonky.

[machavez00]

I'd like to see HR20 networking become compatible with either iTunes or VLC (a multiplatform video app with both client and some server capabilities). I'm not really impressed with Twonky.

Twonky is a no go. Our best bet is Elgato's EyeConnect, a UPnP compliant server (www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyeconnect). It has the plug-ins but for some reason when you try to play music all you get is white noise. If the HR20 becomes UPnP compliant then we will be good to go. This post by the media bridge team seems to imply that the HR20 is a UPnP device:http://forums.directv.com/pe/action/forums/displaypost?postID=10228819. It can't be, otherwise EyeConnect would be streaming music instead of white noise.