Multiple Dishes

[telewireman]

I live on a wooded lot and currently I have a Directv dish with the three lnb's. I can only get 119 and 101 with this dish.....tree is blocking 110. If I move the dish to another location I can get 110 and 119 but not 101. I want to get the new dish by Directv so that I can have HD channels. Is there a way to get seperate dishes with seperate LNB's so that I can locate them in different areas of my yard to maximize the satellite signal?

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thank you

[DBordello]

Get yourself a round dish. Point the 3lnb guy where you can get 2 of them, and point the round dish at the other one. Connect them appropriatly to a multiswitch.

110 is goofy (frequencies get shifted to fit into the 119 slots). Therefore I would point the round at 101 and save yourself some headache. So you would have 2 cables from the round and two from the 3lnb.

[litzdog911]

Yes, it's possible to combine 3 round dishes to receive 101, 110 and 119 from different locations on your property.

But be sure that there is no single location that can "see" all three satellites. Right now, this week, you can use the Sun to help you. See the link in my signature below.

To combine 3 round dishes is a bit more complicated than DBordello suggests. You need ....

(3) Round 18" dishes
(1) 4x8 multiswitch (e.g. Terk BMS58 or Zinwell WB68)
(1) "Sat C Kit"

The Sat C Kit is getting hard to find. It includes the special single output LNB required for reception of the 110-deg satellite, along with a combiner to combine the 110-deg satellite (Sat C) LNB with one side of the 119-deg (Sat B) LNB.

[AlbertZeroK]

The guys at solid signal should be able to get you everything you need, they are pretty good when I've always needed something.

[telewireman]

I'm wanting to set up my dish like the new 5 lnb dish to get the new hd channels. The directv guy showed up yesterday with the new 5 lnb dish and said no way. But, he didn't believe I already had Directv until I showed him my setup, which has worked fine for 4 years. But now I have a HD TV and want HD programming. Is there a way to get the older 5 lnb dish which has 110 & 119 lnb's seperated and use it to aim at 101, 103, and 99.....and use a older dish at another location to point at 110 & 119 and combine the signals back by running the RG 6 cable up to the ports 1 & 2 on the new dish for it to work. Make sense?

[Tom Robertson]

Welcome to the forums, telewireman! :welcome_s

Cheers,
Tom

[litzdog911]

I'm wanting to set up my dish like the new 5 lnb dish to get the new hd channels. The directv guy showed up yesterday with the new 5 lnb dish and said no way. But, he didn't believe I already had Directv until I showed him my setup, which has worked fine for 4 years. But now I have a HD TV and want HD programming. Is there a way to get the older 5 lnb dish which has 110 & 119 lnb's seperated and use it to aim at 101, 103, and 99.....and use a older dish at another location to point at 110 & 119 and combine the signals back by running the RG 6 cable up to the ports 1 & 2 on the new dish for it to work. Make sense?

Nope. You cannot combine older dishes with the new dishes or LNBs needed to receive the Ka-band satellites. However, you can combine two AT9 5-LNB dishes .... one sited to "see" 99/101/103 satellites and the other sited to "see" 110/119. More information here ....

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=62223&highlight=combine+dish

Note that the AT9 5-LNB dishes are getting hard to find as the Slimline version rolls out, and you cannot combine two Slimline dishes.

[telewireman]

I think I already no the answer to this question....but just to ask. I take it you can't combine a new slimline and older AT9?

Let me ask you this I get 101 really well. Do you think it is just as easy to get 99 and 103? How far apart are they? Are they up and down from each other. Ie veritical to one another straight up and down or are they in an arch from one another.

Thanks for the help.

[carl6]

No, you cannot combine an AT9 and an AU9 (slimline).

If you get 101, then odds are very good that you will also get 99 and 103. The amount of arc is dependent on your location, but I don't think it is significant anyplace.

Carl

[DBordello]

In reference to a 3-sat setup (I am not sure how to do a 5):

Since he has a location that can see 119 and 110 he can use the phase 3 here. The phase 3 will internally combine 119 and 110. From there he can run two lines to a 5x8 multiswitch. The multiswitch will be able to get all of 119 and 110 from these two lines.

From the round dish, looking at 101 he will get two LNB outputs. These also can be connected the external multiswitch (on the 101 inputs). This multiswitch will lock 1 lnb on the odd and even transponders.

I see no reason for a Sat C kit, since the phase 3 can deal with combining 119 and 110.

[Supervolcano]

I know you might not want to hear this.
And I don't know if you own your property or not.

But honestly, if you own your property, it seems that 2 dishes would probably be far more trouble and/or maybe more expensive than just figuring out which tree is blocking the path and either trimming it or chopping it down.

Also, have you REALLY considered every possible location for your dish?

A lot of people nowadays just cement a pipe into the ground wherever the signal allows for their property and install the dish to that pipe. Then dig a thin trench up to the house for the cables so you don't have to worry about your lawnmower eating the cables.

Creative minds can sometimes prevail in circmstances like this.
Think outside the box.
:D

[Supervolcano]

In reference to a 3-sat setup (I am not sure how to do a 5):

Since he has a location that can see 119 and 110 he can use the phase 3 here. The phase 3 will internally combine 119 and 110. From there he can run two lines to a 5x8 multiswitch. The multiswitch will be able to get all of 119 and 110 from these two lines.

From the round dish, looking at 101 he will get two LNB outputs. These also can be connected the external multiswitch (on the 101 inputs). This multiswitch will lock 1 lnb on the odd and even transponders.

I see no reason for a Sat C kit, since the phase 3 can deal with combining 119 and 110.
But the poster wants HD.
Mpeg4 is the way of the future.
He's gonna need the 99 & 103 birds by the end of the year.

I could be wrong, but I doubt the old phase I, II, or III dishes are compatible with the new AT9 or AU9 dishes (nor their required WB68 multiswitch) that you need for the 99 & 103 birds.

[litzdog911]

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I could be wrong, but I doubt the old phase I, II, or III dishes are compatible with the new AT9 or AU9 dishes (nor their required WB68 multiswitch) that you need for the 99 & 103 birds.

You're right. I tried. It doesn't work. See the link I reference above for the experiments I did trying to combine my old dishes with a new AT9. The only solution was combining two AT9s, which is working great.