Fox News Ch 360 suddenly blank

[~mudd]

Seems as of today ch. 360 Fox News channel, on all 3 sat boxes is now 'searching for signal 771'

I am in the Boston area and am wondering if this is happening to others. This is the only news channel I enjoy watching~! All other channels appear to be there just not this one.

thanks~

Greg

[gpg]

I'm getting it on Long Island.

[Supervolcano]

...on all 3 sat boxes is now 'searching for signal 771' ...
Sounds like your dish moved.
Check signal strength for each transponder on each of the satellites.

[fratwell]

360 is fine here in Nashua, NH....It has been windy this afternoon and evening though, wind gusts in the 30mph's

[~mudd]

Sounds like your dish moved.


Singnal strength appears OK on my R15 box. We have had high winds but I though that if it moved I would see more channels missing than just one. My R15 that I'm checking now is only looking at the 101º sat and has a few transponders at 0.

Is there a way to know what transponder ch.360 is coming off of?

[jimmyv2000]

Seems as of today ch. 360 Fox News channel, on all 3 sat boxes is now 'searching for signal 771'

I am in the Boston area and am wondering if this is happening to others. This is the only news channel I enjoy watching~! All other channels appear to be there just not this one.

thanks~

Greg

interesting i been watching FNC from 4 to about 6 and it was fine
i'm 30 miles N of boston.
its a little windy out there now.maybe your dish needs to be peaked?

[fratwell]

Singnal strength appears OK on my R15 box. We have had high winds but I though that if it moved I would see more channels missing than just one. My R15 that I'm checking now is only looking at the 101º sat and has a few transponders at 0.

Is there a way to know what transponder ch.360 is coming off of?

Looks like it is Transponder 27 for ch 360 from the Transponder channel mapping:
http://richardk.digitalrice.com/transponders.asp

[Supervolcano]

Singnal strength appears OK on my R15 box.
Please be more specific.
80's & 90's = OK

We have had high winds but I though that if it moved I would see more channels missing than just one.
If it moved, I'm sure there are a few others your missing and/or are pixilating intermittently.

But forget about "channels".
Focus on "transponders".
;)

My R15 that I'm checking now is only looking at the 101º sat and has a few transponders at 0.
A few transponders will be 0 because they are spotbeams not meant for your area. This is normal.

Is there a way to know what transponder ch.360 is coming off of?
Old equipment (like my sony-b55) is the only way I know of.

Channel 360 is currently on transponder 22 of satellite 101.

[~mudd]

Looks like it is Transponder 27 for ch 360 from the Transponder channel mapping:

Thanks for the link, very cool info. However I have a 96 on transponder 27 and get the other channels listed under this transponder...258 269 286 337 353 etc, so I'm not sure where to go from here. I already tried RBR, I guess next call will be to D*

EDIT: SUPERVOLCANO - transponder 22 is at ZERO. Are you sure this channel is on transponder 22?

Greg

[Supervolcano]

Looks like it is Transponder 27 for ch 360 from the Transponder channel mapping:
http://richardk.digitalrice.com/transponders.asp
Thank you very much for trying fratwell, seriously, I mean that.

But too bad they didn't keep up with that info.
It's quite outdated now (3 years old).
My sony-b55 receiver claims channel 360 is on transponder 22.

[fratwell]

It's worth a try, ~mudd, for transponder 22

Thanks Supervolcano for finding this out....I wonder when this 2004 website of transponder @101 will ever be updated?

[Supervolcano]

...so I'm not sure where to go from here. I already tried RBR, I guess next call will be to D*
Please list the signals for every transponder on 101 satellite.
I'm sure we can initially help you more than D*'s CSR's can if you list your strengths.

Also please tell us what type of dish you have.

EDIT: SUPERVOLCANO - transponder 22 is at ZERO. Are you sure this channel is on transponder 22?
No, I'm not certain.
This is simply what my sony-b55 claims that channel is mapped to.

[~mudd]

5LNB dish through WB68 to this R15-300 (at least this is the one closest to my computer) and transponders signals run as follows...

96 87 95 96 93 96 96 96
96 78 92 0 94 78 94 70
92 92 96 44 90 0 0 0
95 0 96 56 96 65 95 52

[Supervolcano]

5LNB dish through WB68 to this R15-300 (at least this is the one closest to my computer) and transponders signals run as follows...

96 87 95 96 93 96 96 96
96 78 92 0 94 78 94 70
92 92 96 44 90 0 0 0
95 0 96 56 96 65 95 52
Interesting.
Now can someone else from the Boston area please post theirs?

[Pink Fairy]

22, 23, 24 are 0....which is not normal. Those should all have signal as well as the others..the only ones that don't matter on the 101 satellite is transponders 4, 12, 18, 20, 26, 28.

[~mudd]

96 87 95 96 93 96 96 96
96 78 92 0 94 78 94 70
92 92 96 44 90 0 0 0
95 0 96 56 96 65 95 52

As I sit watching the meters, the all just started climbing higher and higher, then falling back again but I still have no Fox News channel..currrents reads are...

96 94 95 96 93 96 96 96
96 95 92 96 94 96 94 93
92 100 96 100 96 96 86 96
95 96 96 96 96 96 95 96

These numbers are going up and down with each pass through of the reads. Anomily, wind? Both?

FNC is now coming in but goes to black every other minute or so then comes back for a minute or so. I assume this is now NOT something with my dish but D* part?

BTW thanks for the help along the way

Greg

[Supervolcano]

These numbers are going up and down with each pass through of the reads. Anomily, wind? Both?
Very minor changes in the numbers (like +/- 3) is perfectly normal. Signal strength is never a constant. It constantly fluctuates in small amounts. Tune to an individual transponders signal meter and you'll see what I mean.

Large changes like your seeing are not normal and usually mean either it's weather related and/or loose bolts on the dish somewhere and/or some other obstruction in your line of sight.

FNC is now coming in but goes to black every other minute or so then comes back for a minute or so.
Maybe a tree's leaves are swaying in/out of the signal's path.
Maybe a small bird decided to stand on your lnb and is playing with your signal.
Maybe a few nuts are loose on the dish and/or the mounting foot.

I assume this is now NOT something with my dish but D* part?
On the contrary ... this problem sounds like it is just you.

BTW thanks for the help along the way
Our pleasure.
This is what we do bro!!

[Coffey77]

Wouldn't a disruption in signal cause more of a pixelation effect rather than just a black screen?

Lists Ch. 360 where super said on LyngSat -->http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/directvusa101.html <-- Scroll down to see Ch. 360.

[Pink Fairy]

It -CAN- cause just a black screen, not just pixelation

[Supervolcano]

Pixilation happens when the signal is fluctuating near the fringe.
Black screen happens when the signal drops below the fringe.

Too bad D* doesn't break down channels per transponder on lyngsat like they used to. The only thing lyngsat shows is what bird is transmitting the channel.

[AnonomissX]

Also try:

1) unplugging the receiver
2) disconnecting the cable from sat in on the receiver
3) disconnecting the cable from the wall (if your install has a wall connector)

Then:
1) Reconnect in reverse order from above
2) power on, and let the box aquire guide info (it should do so, since transponders 1 and 2 are getting readings)
3) check the signal for row 3 again...and channel 360.

When I did tech support for directv, a lot of times disconnecting/reconnecting the cabling from the box (and the wall if possible) in tandem with removing power seemed to do the trick when just resetting didn't...hope that helps

[naijai]

Dont unplug yet you may lose all your channels

[RobertE]

Process of elimination.

From the info you posted I'd rule out weather/obstructions/alignment. Re: If it were any of those you would have the problem on all the transponders on that sat. There is 0 - ZERO chance that any of those items would be cause an issue on a specific transponder.

So that leaves the LNB, cabling, multiswitch & receiver.

As you said in your first post, its affecting three of your boxes.

Now we are down to LNB, cabling & multiswitch.

Are you able to bypass the multiswitch? If so, what are the results?

[White_Horse]

Process of elimination.

From the info you posted I'd rule out weather/obstructions/alignment. Re: If it were any of those you would have the problem on all the transponders on that sat. There is 0 - ZERO chance that any of those items would be cause an issue on a specific transponder.


Not necessarily true. Our dish moved just enough we lost transponder 2 and a few others but still had all the channels we regularly watch. The guide info is on transponder 2 so we didn't notice the problem until it tried to pull down more guide data. Once we lost the guide data we started loosing other things, but until that point, things were fine. There was a several hour time window inbetween when the dish was moved and the boxes started having problems. We know when the dish moved because we were securing the pole it's mounted to better. (Note this is an AT9 dish, but the poster doesn't say what dish he has.)

[RobertE]

Not necessarily true. Our dish moved just enough we lost transponder 2 and a few others but still had all the channels we regularly watch. The guide info is on transponder 2 so we didn't notice the problem until it tried to pull down more guide data. Once we lost the guide data we started loosing other things, but until that point, things were fine. There was a several hour time window in between when the dish was moved and the boxes started having problems. We know when the dish moved because we were securing the pole it's mounted to better. (Note this is an AT9 dish, but the poster doesn't say what dish he has.)

On a spot beam, then yes its possible to lose a transponder due to an alignment issue.

However, I find it impossible to lose a set of transponders coming off of a single sat on the conus beam without violating the laws of physics. If you can see a single transponder on the 101 you will see them all (conus).