Is your HR20 networked for VOD?

[PoitNarf]

armophob in another thread asked if there had been a poll addressing this and I don't think there has been. Therefore... :D

[Michael D'Angelo]

Yes both of my units are. One of them is wired and the other is hooked up wireless.

[RAD]

Yep, both have been wired up since the CE came out to enable the media functions. I'm all ready to go, just waiting for D* to put the CE code in the stream for testing.

[mhayes70]

Yes mine is wired and ready to go.

[DCSholtis]

I already have my Airport Express as soon as I can get me some flat ethernet cord I'll be networked. Probably within a week.

[tfederov]

2 wireless and 1 wired here.

[ldmth44]

Networked here also.

[Teronzhul]

Yep, I ran cat5 to my cable locations long ago in anticpation of better interactive services. I only have the 1 HR20 thus far, but I'm prepared for a second.

[VeniceDre]

Yep, both are wired and ready to go... my Girlfriend loves running music off her laptop when she's over.

[KCCardsfan]

Wired to network, ready to go.

[bonscott87]

Will run the wires when needed.

[PoitNarf]

Percentages are higher than I thought they would be so far.

[armophob]

Percentages are higher than I thought they would be so far.

Yes, and confirms I am certainly in the minority. Makes me want to maybe revisit the archived posts and threads and see what is gained by being networked.

[Tom Robertson]

Yes, and confirms I am certainly in the minority. Makes me want to maybe revisit the archived posts and threads and see what is gained by being networked.

Big plus is being prepared for VOD. Second big plus is playing music thru HR20 from a media server. Small plus, IMHO is showing pix. (Will be big plus when the resolution of the pix improves.)

Cheers,
Tom

[armophob]

Big plus is being prepared for VOD. Second big plus is playing music thru HR20 from a media server. Small plus, IMHO is showing pix. (Will be big plus when the resolution of the pix improves.)

Cheers,
Tom

Thanks for the saving me the research time Tom.:) I still use cd players, I don't need to see my own pics bigger, and I am still waiting on the jury's vote on VOD. I will stay in the minority for a while longer.:D

[Tom Robertson]

Thanks for the saving me the research time Tom.:) I still use cd players, I don't need to see my own pics bigger, and I am still waiting on the jury's vote on VOD. I will stay in the minority for a while longer.:D

Nothing wrong with that either. DIRECTV needs people who use the system in their own way.

Cheers,
Tom

[DVRaholic]

Just need to run the cable.
Switch is 3 feet away from my main HR20 :D

[funhouse69]

Wired to a Gigabit Switch connected through a 100Mb / Sec Capable Firewall then Connected to Verizon FIOS with 20Mb / Sec down and 5Mb / Sec up! I get a sustained 3Mb / Sec from my Slingbox when connecting from my work network. Got to love working for an ISP and having FIOS!

Oh yeah and I'm a Network Engineer so I would be more than happy to test this in any way possible. :D

[ilovehd]

2 units ready to go!

[UTVLamented]

Ready to go with FIOS 20/5 service

[redrocker]

I will wire it up when someone tells me what I need.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I will wire it up when someone tells me what I need.

If you are able to run a CAT5 cable from your router to your HR20 you will be good to go. If not you will need to get a wireless games adapter that uses an Ethernet connection not USB.

[Kentstater]

Got up in the attic last weekend and wired it.

I have no desire to get music or photos, I use my Archos 504, but I am ready for VOD.

Anything else?

[paulman182]

What "home network?"

[LoganDzwon]

heh, funny thing is that I had it networked, but removed the cable because none of the media features worked at all with my macs, nor well with anything else, and the constent pop-ups about computers turn on or off were annoying as hell.

[Tom Robertson]

LoganDzwon, I hear you, tho it wasn't because of Macs, in my case. Now that the networking is much more stable, and VOD is "right around the corner", albeit a big corner, I've wired my HR20s to the net again.

Cheers,
Tom

[grate88]

Wiring would be near impossible for me, so I'd need to go the wireless route. COuld anyone give me a recommend (with link if possible) to a good wireless solution for the hr-20. Thanks.

[Michael D'Angelo]

Wiring would be near impossible for me, so I'd need to go the wireless route. COuld anyone give me a recommend (with link if possible) to a good wireless solution for the hr-20. Thanks.

This is the one I have

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16873999102

[joed32]

No plans to network, too much trouble. I think that most people will never do it unless D* would come out and do it for them.

[armophob]

No plans to network, too much trouble. I think that most people will never do it unless D* would come out and do it for them.

This is my thought also. It is hard to use this forum to represent the general population. The people who log in to this site generally have a technical interest or background one step above the John and Jane Smith D* subscriber.

[houskamp]

heh, funny thing is that I had it networked, but removed the cable because none of the media features worked at all with my macs, nor well with anything else, and the constent pop-ups about computers turn on or off were annoying as hell.

if you go to the computer that gives the logoff message and remove the hr20 from the alowed list the logoff messages will stop..

[DCSholtis]

I'll be set up in a few days. Ordered some super flat cat5 ethernet cable in 2 different lengths because I couldnt figure out how much I needed. As I said before Airport Express is already plugged in and in WDS mode so Im set basically.

[stogie5150]

What "home network?"



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+1

No plans to do it, even if I knew how. I have a dvd player, cables from my PC to my TV for videos from the internet, and have absolutely no need for VOD. :lol:

[Groundhog45]

I hooked them both up to test, but I leave them disconnected. I'll reconnect when I see something useful that I want to access.

[Jeremy W]

Mine has been wired up since day one.

[Slip Jigs]

I haven't been keeping up with the VOD discussions - why does it have to be networked? Can someone point me to the posts that outline the requirements and operation? Thanks.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I haven't been keeping up with the VOD discussions - why does it have to be networked? Can someone point me to the posts that outline the requirements and operation? Thanks.

Because what you will be watching you download over the internet. It is not done by the SAT's. I did hear a little bit of it will be done over the SAT's but only the highly watch items will be put in the stream but I am not sure about that. If that is not correct someone please correct me.

[devellis]

Well, there's a traceable link from network to HR-20. How it works remains to be seen. The HR-20 indicates that it sees the network and the internet. My router seems to recognize the presence of the HR-20. But none of the computers on my network have recognized the HR-20's presence (e.g., doesn't appear in WMP11). While the reasons for the latter should be independent of how VOD will work, that remains to be seen. If something is trapping a signal between the computers and the HR-20, I hope that VOD will only require that the router see the box.

[Slip Jigs]

Because what you will be watching you download over the internet. It is not done by the SAT's. I did hear a little bit of it will be done over the SAT's but only the highly watch items will be put in the stream but I am not sure about that. If that is not correct someone please correct me.

Interesting! I have more quesionts, and again, sorry for covering old ground.

1. Will it stream or download first?
2 Is it a service or more like PPV?
3. Does it chew up bandwidth? (interfere with GF playing Wow - heh)
4. Phone line required?
5. Scheduling recording on net?
6. Does it use on of the available tuners while watching and/or recording?
7. Does it connect to net directly, or required a media server (WMP, etc)?

[Michael D'Angelo]

1. Will it stream or download first?

I believe depending on what it is that you want to watch it does both.

2 Is it a service or more like PPV?

Some things you will have to pay for and some will be free. I don't think anyone knows how much of each yet.

3. Does it chew up bandwidth? (interfere with GF playing Wow - heh)

When using it yes. I will be like downloading any thing else.

4. Phone line required?

No

5. Scheduling recording on net?

Yes you will be able to.

6. Does it use on of the available tuners while watching and/or recording?

I don't know. I have not heard that it would.

7. Does it connect to net directly, or required a media server (WMP, etc)?

Connects right to the net through your router.

[Slip Jigs]

Thanks B -

gotta get the cable runned and be reddy.

[smitchell24]

Hi, would like to network the HR-20 to my computer/DSL line. Since the run is so long (upstairs bedroom to the basement), have decided to go with a wireless G router for VOD for when its available. But I have never set up a network before, so my question is, once I purchase a Linksys wireless router to my computer, is there another device I have to have upstairs on the actuall D* HR20 to connect it? Is it included with the wireless router, or an device I must purchase seperately that utilizes the HR20 ethernet port?? Originally when I was going to run ethernet cable, it just seemed so simple, run the ethernet cable from the D* HR20 ethernet port, to the router in setup on my computer.

Any info, would be greatly appreciate!

Thanks!

Steve

[Michael D'Angelo]

Hi, would like to network the HR-20 to my computer/DSL line. Since the run is so long (upstairs bedroom to the basement), have decided to go with a wireless G router for VOD for when its available. But I have never set up a network before, so my question is, once I purchase a Linksys wireless router to my computer, is there another device I have to have upstairs on the actuall D* HR20 to connect it? Is it included with the wireless router, or an device I must purchase seperately that utilizes the HR20 ethernet port?? Originally when I was going to run ethernet cable, it just seemed so simple, run the ethernet cable from the D* HR20 ethernet port, to the router in setup on my computer.

Any info, would be greatly appreciate!

Thanks!

Steve

You will need to buy a wireless game adapter with a Ethernet connection not USB.
this is the linksys unit I have.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16873999102

[Slip Jigs]

I may go with the wireless adapter as well - but (another questions) will it be able to keep up? WIll VOD offer HD content?

[Jeremy W]

I may go with the wireless adapter as well - but (another questions) will it be able to keep up? WIll VOD offer HD content?
802.11g has a theoretical maximum of 45mbps. Even if you take a very conservative estimate and cut it in half, it's still probably multiple times faster than your Internet connection. So it shouldn't slow you down. As for HD content, DirecTV has said it should be coming in 2008.

[Slip Jigs]

802.11g has a theoretical maximum of 45mbps. Even if you take a very conservative estimate and cut it in half, it's still probably multiple times faster than your Internet connection. So it shouldn't slow you down. As for HD content, DirecTV has said it should be coming in 2008.

That's true. Come to think of it. I actually get good download speeds over wireless from sites/serviers that can actually supply it.

Having said that, I hope the servers can handle it. It's a little more bandwidth than iTunes. heh.

[Jeremy W]

Having said that, I hope the servers can handle it. It's a little more bandwidth than iTunes.
I'm sure the actual VOD content will be coming from a CDN like Akamai.

[carl6]

We do not yet know how VOD is going to work. How much is satellite versus how much is ethernet. Also, I'm guessing it will have to be receiver specific (as opposed to account based), you won't be able to order VOD that streams to multiple units, only the specific one you order from.

That begs the next question, will you need a phone line to order VOD (as you now need for PPV), or will that request go via internet? If the latter, will future ppv requests also go via internet?

Now I'm unique in several regards. One of those is that I have two independent high speed internet connections in my home, from two different ISP's. My two HR20's are hooked up one to each, so they are behind different IP's as seen from the outside world (although they are both plugged into the same phone line). I wonder how that might effect VOD if it would otherwise feed to multiple units?

Carl

[Jeremy W]

How much is satellite
Only the most popular stuff.
versus how much is ethernet.
Everything else, which is the vast majority.
Also, I'm guessing it will have to be receiver specific (as opposed to account based), you won't be able to order VOD that streams to multiple units, only the specific one you order from.
Correct.
That begs the next question, will you need a phone line to order VOD (as you now need for PPV), or will that request go via internet? If the latter, will future ppv requests also go via internet?
VOD will be 100% Internet ordering. There are no plans to change PPV right now, but I'd have to assume they will eventually.
My two HR20's are hooked up one to each, so they are behind different IP's as seen from the outside world (although they are both plugged into the same phone line). I wonder how that might effect VOD if it would otherwise feed to multiple units?
It will have no effect.

[Nofences]

You will need to buy a wireless game adapter with a Ethernet connection not USB.
this is the linksys unit I have.


Here's a better (i.e. CHEAPER) option...
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833176105


I have 2 units already networked, an HR20-700 plugged in directly to router, and an HR20-100 through a wireless bridge.

[rahchgo]

I set it up yesterday.

See link for details.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=936657&postcount=172

[rahchgo]

I will wire it up when someone tells me what I need.

Check out the document in this post and many other good posts in the thread.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=767858&postcount=1

[mtnagel]

Wow, I'm surprised at the results. Over 72% are networked, but I guess that's because we are all geeks on here. I wonder what the % if for the general population? 10%? 20%?

Anyway, mine is not networked. I have had no need so far (though the pictures thing would be kind of cool, but not worth the price of the wireless adapter I'd need). I will see how VOD plays out and if I determine I want/need it, I will then buy the adapter at that point and network my unit.

[MartyS]

I'm not networked (and just voted that way). I don't see how D* will be able to tell users that if you want VOD, you have to network. I know that on my cable system (Comcast SA8300HD) there is no network connection and everything including all the On Demand channels (VOD) come through the cable.

I suspect that this will be one of the things that D* is going to have to wrestle with, since outside of these forums, I don't know what percentage of folks have wireless or wired networks, and if they release something to a "select" group of subscribers it could cause them some problems.

Just my thoughts. :confused:

[Steve]

Just curious if the poll is intended to find out just if VOD fans are ready for it? Or is it to find out what % of the user base will use VOD at all? If the latter, I think because of the thread title, this poll may be "self selected" by VOD fans and not be an accurate gauge of reality.

I'd suggest a poll titled "Do you plan to use VOD", and then have selections that say "No", "Not sure at this time", "Yes and I'm already networked", or "Yes and I plan to network soon". Just my .02. /s

[Slip Jigs]

I'm not networked (and just voted that way). I don't see how D* will be able to tell users that if you want VOD, you have to network. I know that on my cable system (Comcast SA8300HD) there is no network connection and everything including all the On Demand channels (VOD) come through the cable.

I suspect that this will be one of the things that D* is going to have to wrestle with, since outside of these forums, I don't know what percentage of folks have wireless or wired networks, and if they release something to a "select" group of subscribers it could cause them some problems.

Just my thoughts. :confused:

It's an interesting point. I don't like the idea of adding requirements to be able to access what can be done on cable with just the box and remote.

On the other hand, they should be able to offer a better selection. I don't know how many titles/programs are available on cable on-demand at any given point - but it may turn out that D* wlll offer the same amount of programming over the dish, and the internet will peovide a much larger library.

[bishoptf]

Mine is networked from the start, and some of you may find this interesting it see's my mythtv box on the network. I haven't played with it much to see if it I could get music etc, firewall right now is probably stopping it.

I am probably in the minority here but I am migrating towards linux more every day, but then I'm a certified geek. But just so you know whats possible in a media center, my mediacenter box runs mythtv to record local HDTV (you can see the website for all its other offerings) and at the moment 6 vmware virtual servers (including firewall and webserver). Is this ready for everyday users, absolutley not but I enjoying tinkering and solving problems. But when you do get it working it can do amazing things and I will say this for all of the complexity, I haven't re-booted it in 3 months...I've had my HR-20 for 1 week and have done a rbr 3-4 times....now before I get flamed, I'm not saying its terrible I see alot of potential with the esata, vod, networked pics etc..I just think it needs to get more polished. I'm most impressed with D* appearing to work with a community to make their product better...which i think is much better than E* approach....

[pprather]

All networked up. Ready for VOD. I love playing music on it as well although i do wish they would fix the disconnect issue after 8 minutes or so (about 3 songs). I'd love to watch a ball game with music for the entire game.

[Milominderbinder2]

All networked up!

- Craig

[PoitNarf]

Wow, I hadn't expected anywhere near half of these results.

[rahchgo]

I'm not networked (and just voted that way). I don't see how D* will be able to tell users that if you want VOD, you have to network. I know that on my cable system (Comcast SA8300HD) there is no network connection and everything including all the On Demand channels (VOD) come through the cable.

I suspect that this will be one of the things that D* is going to have to wrestle with, since outside of these forums, I don't know what percentage of folks have wireless or wired networks, and if they release something to a "select" group of subscribers it could cause them some problems.

Just my thoughts. :confused:

Then again, they require a phone line right now for PPV. Plenty of evidence that this is the way they or going to go in this thread.
http://dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=892270&postcount=1

IMHO, I don't think that many will complain. I would be willing to wager that a higher percentage of DIRECTV customers have High Speed Internet than the normal population.

[Sixto]

HR20's hard wired to D-Link Gigabit Router.

With Optimum Online Boost 30/5 service.

Bring it on!

[ejjames]

I have a wireless lynksys router on the other side of the house. I am thinking of setting up a slingbox with my HR20. Could I use a slinglink turbo powerline adapter for both the slingbox, and the vod on the HR20?

Thanks in advance

[pdawg17]

Any idea what kind of download speeds we would get? I only have wireless b at this point as I haven't had a need for more...

[PoitNarf]

Any idea what kind of download speeds we would get? I only have wireless b at this point as I haven't had a need for more...

We don't know at this point, but as long as your wireless speed is comparable to your DSL/Cable speed you should be fine.

[mitchelljd]

what benefits are there to networking? current ? And future?

thanks, havent kept up to date

[Michael D'Angelo]

what benefits are there to networking? current ? And future?

thanks, havent kept up to date

Right now you are able to stream music and photos from you PC. So you will be able to listen to music through your HR20 on your surround sound or your TV speakers. You will be able to view photos on you TV. Down the road you will also be able to stream videos from you PC to view on the TV.

The big reason for it will be coming soon. It is launching in July Video On Demand. You will need to have you HR20 hooked up to the network so you can download VOD programs to watch.

[skaeight]

Then again, they require a phone line right now for PPV. Plenty of evidence that this is the way they or going to go in this thread.
http://dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=892270&postcount=1

IMHO, I don't think that many will complain. I would be willing to wager that a higher percentage of DIRECTV customers have High Speed Internet than the normal population.

Actually they don't require a phoneline for PPV. All you have to do is tell them to disable remote ordering and then order PPV over the internet.

I'd be really happy if they enabled it over ethernet though. It can be a pain to have to get the computer out to buy a ppv.

[HDTVsportsfan]

Just ran the CATE cable today. I'm good to go.

[Jotas]

I networked my Xbox 360 first but I plan on running a second CAT 5 cable to the HR20 as I read a while back that there was no real need for a connection until new features rolled out.

[tyrap]

Up and wired and most surprising is the kids really enjoy the network features with the music and pictures-who would of thought.

[smitchell24]

Okay, just hooked up a wireless router & now awaiting the arrival of the game adaptor & I will be up & running. My question is, will the ability to record programming remotely, ie from work, be available any time soon, or will VOD have to be set up first before this can be accomplished?

Thanks!

[PoitNarf]

Okay, just hooked up a wireless router & now awaiting the arrival of the game adaptor & I will be up & running. My question is, will the ability to record programming remotely, ie from work, be available any time soon, or will VOD have to be set up first before this can be accomplished?

I'd imagine that remote scheduling will come about around the same time as VOD.

[Michael D'Angelo]

Okay, just hooked up a wireless router & now awaiting the arrival of the game adaptor & I will be up & running. My question is, will the ability to record programming remotely, ie from work, be available any time soon, or will VOD have to be set up first before this can be accomplished?

Thanks!

It will come with VOD. But I am not sure if it is only for downloading VOD programs or if you will be able to set recording's also.

[smitchell24]

It will come with VOD. But I am not sure if it is only for downloading VOD programs or if you will be able to set recording's also.

Okay, thanks for the info....thought remote scheduling was to become available for sure. Well here's to hoping we get that feature, the sooner the better!

[Jeremy W]

Okay, thanks for the info....thought remote scheduling was to become available for sure. Well here's to hoping we get that feature, the sooner the better!
Remote scheduling of both VOD and regular programming will be available. It has already been announced.

[PoitNarf]

Remote scheduling of both VOD and regular programming will be available. It has already been announced.

What would be REALLY cool is if we could post some sort of URL link here in the forum that acts as a link to a particular SL or show... upon clicking on the link will redirect you to D*s website to the page where you would add that particular show to your HR20. Kind of like a mailto: link... Anyway, I'm just brainstorming here :lol:

[miksmi21]

Networked via Buffalo Technologies Ethernet converter via Wi-Fi to my Netgear Router.

Works Great!