A different kind of Reward Challenge sparks some debate - RESULTS UPDATED!

[Mark Lamutt]

Well, as there was no reward challenge this week, that poll gets discarded, and points are only scored from the Immunity poll and the Voted Out poll. 3 points total were available, not 4.

EDIT: After further consideration, I've decided to change my ruling. CBS is now declaring both tribes winners of the food auction, so to be as fair and impartial as I can possibly be, everyone that voted in the Week #5 Reward Challenge Poll will now receive a point for their vote.

[timf]

There was a reward challenge. However, because both teams bid on and won food, it's hard to declare a winner. If you go to the official Survivor challenge tracker website (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/show/challenges.shtml) they declare Chuay Gahn the winner (since they got the most food / paid the most).

Of course, I didn't pick them, so the point wouldn't help me. It's up to you if you want to count this, but I thought I'd point out what the official site says.

[Mark Lamutt]

Thanks for pointing that out, but I'm not going to use it. For our contest, a challenge is defined as a contest in which one tribe or person is declared the winner by the host. I don't consider the food auction a challenge - both teams won food items. Granted, I also thought that Chuay-Gahn did better for themselves than Sook-Jai did, but I don't see that as being a true challenge. So, no one gets the 4th point this week.

[CoryTV]

..can we go based upon the CBS (obviously impartial) site?  I'm certainly not suggesting this is the case, but in weeks where it's a "different" reward challenge, the person controlling the points could allow/disallow based upon personal preferences.  For example, the top two people picked CG to win the RC this week. Giving them the point would broaden the(our) lead, as the next three picked SJ.

 If the CBS site says there's a winner (which they do) I think those who guess CG should get a point.  It just seems more fair to "blindly" follow the CBS site, *WHATEVER* happens...

My point is that *they* call it a RC, and you are making this call *after* the fact.

 :shrug:

All I'm sayin is that if I lose by one point, and it's not to DDRio, I'm gonna be pissed.

[brentp]

CoryTV - I know you want the point, . . . I would too :lol:

Careful review of the Challenge Tracker in the link noted above does so a red dot in CG's row, but if you mouse over that red dot it says that both tribes won food.

More importantly, if we check the CBS Survivor site under Show:Episodes:Episode 5:Challenges, . . . they do not declare a winner there. This is what they say;

'Winning Tribe: Both tribes won food'.

Here is the link to that site: Episode 5 Challenge Link (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/show/episode05/s5challenges.shtml)

They may have declared a 'winner' elsewhere on their site, but thought I would point this out. I think this area would have to be highly considered for the 'official' results.

For what it is worth, . . . I too believe that if a winner was declared, . . . it would have to have been CG, . . . but I also believe that would be difficult to make the call given this challenge. I believe it is fair and the right think to do to not include this challenge in the results for this week. For the record, this decision does keep me 1 point closer to the lead, . . . although I am wayyyy back in the pack :(.

Just my thoughts on this!

[Mark Lamutt]

Originally posted by CoryTV
..can we go based upon the CBS (obviously impartial) site? I'm certainly not suggesting this is the case, but in weeks where it's a "different" reward challenge, the person controlling the points could allow/disallow based upon personal preferences. For example, the top two people picked CG to win the RC this week. Giving them the point would broaden the(our) lead, as the next three picked SJ.


CoryTV, you're missing the point. Personal preference (mine, as I am the one making the rulings and awarding the points) only comes into play if I were to choose one tribe over the other in a situation like this. The only fair way to deal with it is to award no points to anyone, and throw the the whole thing out.

What would you have thought had I declared S-J the winner? I could justify that decision a couple of different ways, and then you and DDRio would very definitely be hurt by that decision. Just like the next 3 in line after you would definitely be hurt by a decision of C-G winning. That would be me ruling on personal preferences, which I won't do.

So, no I won't be using the CBS site to make the rulings.

[CoryTV]

By not giving a point, you are showing favoratism to those who would have guessed incorrectly (Sook Jai)  I'm saying by going off a 3rd party's judgement (CBS) You'd therefore eliminate the possibility of impartiality!

But whatever, you're the boss, boss.  It's your game.

 

[Mark Lamutt]

Go back and look at the CBS website again - they have corrected it - it now indicates that both tribes won the food auction "reward challenge". So, even going by the 3rd party's judgment, either I give everyone that voted a point, or no one gets a point.

After further consideration, I am going to reverse my earlier ruling. Everyone that voted in the Reward Challenge Poll will now get a point. That way, everyone who voted benefits from the vote, and those that chose not to vote don't benefit.

Web page will be updated later this afternoon with the new results.