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bnewt
06-25-07, 11:58 AM
With the upcoming change of digital tuners for all tv's, how will the satellite companies change in order to accomodate using the 2nd tv with their dual tuner receivers? Will that still be possible?

n0qcu
06-25-07, 12:49 PM
Since the majority of people get their TV by cable or satellite, I would guess that new TV's will continue to have a NTSC tuner in them for years after OTA goes 100% digital.

Stewart Vernon
06-25-07, 02:33 PM
With the upcoming change of digital tuners for all tv's, how will the satellite companies change in order to accomodate using the 2nd tv with their dual tuner receivers? Will that still be possible?

I'm not sure I understand your question... what does this have to do with dual tuner receivers?

If you are talking about the RF output from receivers... I thought all TVs would have an analog and digital tuner for a while.. I suppose TV manufacturers could stop putting analog tuners in after the digital cutoff... but the components for an analog tuner are so cheap it might cost them more to take it out and change the TV design than to just leave it in.

IF they do take it out... then RF outputs will be a thing of the past for those TVs and unusable. It'll be a little while before there are proper equipment (MPEG2 or 4 encoders) cheap enough to include in set-top boxes such that digital signals could be created for a digital RF output.

bnewt
06-25-07, 05:22 PM
I'm not sure I understand your question... what does this have to do with dual tuner receivers?

If you are talking about the RF output from receivers... I thought all TVs would have an analog and digital tuner for a while.. I suppose TV manufacturers could stop putting analog tuners in after the digital cutoff... but the components for an analog tuner are so cheap it might cost them more to take it out and change the TV design than to just leave it in.

IF they do take it out... then RF outputs will be a thing of the past for those TVs and unusable. It'll be a little while before there are proper equipment (MPEG2 or 4 encoders) cheap enough to include in set-top boxes such that digital signals could be created for a digital RF output.


Here's what I am trying to find out..........I presently have a 625. I combine the rf output of the 625 tv2 with the ota signal. My combiner unit (for lack of better description), then allow both signals to be sent to other tv's in the house. I can watch the ota channels or the satellite on any of the other tv's. Now in a couple of years, I will not be able to do that with digital tuner. How will I be able to accomplish the same end result if all tv's have a digital tuner? Will Dish change their rf output to become digital like the ota signals? Or will this type of setup be impossible?

tnsprin
06-25-07, 05:44 PM
Here's what I am trying to find out..........I presently have a 625. I combine the rf output of the 625 tv2 with the ota signal. My combiner unit (for lack of better description), then allow both signals to be sent to other tv's in the house. I can watch the ota channels or the satellite on any of the other tv's. Now in a couple of years, I will not be able to do that with digital tuner. How will I be able to accomplish the same end result if all tv's have a digital tuner? Will Dish change their rf output to become digital like the ota signals? Or will this type of setup be impossible?

They originally did ATSC (DIGITAL) output from the HD adapter for the 5000. But these days it will not be permitted by certain powerful groups. So at the time that your TV does not support NTSC tuner, you will need a different type output for your second TV2, eg, a second HDMI output.

scooper
06-25-07, 06:27 PM
Stock up on old VCRs / DVD recorders with an NTSC tuner.

Seriously - I think it's going to be a few years before NTSC tuners are completely extinct - certainly - quite a few cable systems will still need them, at least until they go completely to QAM.

And yes - I'm kind of in the same boat - specifically why I recently got a new TV for our bedroom that has both NTSC and ATSC tuners.

Jim5506
06-25-07, 09:07 PM
As others have said, the NTSC tuner will be around for maybe another 20 years, because it is the easiest way to distribute the output signal from satellite and ATSC tuners.

Component, composite, etc all require many wires and running complex cables.

NTSC RF distribution is a one wire solution for whole house distribution.

Just because OTA TV is no longer distributed that way, doesn't mean it's kaput.