HR20-700: 0x17E - Discussion / Issues

[Earl Bonovich]

National Release: 07/21/2007
Manufacturer 700 - 0x17E

Release Notes: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92449

PLEASE DONT POST... DIDN'T GET IT, or GOT IT tracking posts in this thread, they are subject to deletion

National Release:
Staggered release, initial roll out to Pacific Time zone July 21, 2007.

The more detail the better Simply put... the more detail you can provide the better the feedback.

Last three national releases
HR20-700

Version 0x68 (06/14/2007): Discussion Thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=89817)
Version 0x15c (05/15/2007): Discussion Thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=87755)
Version 0x145 (03/29/2007): Discussion Thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83818)


The Original HR20 Review Thread
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=61862

Tips and Tricks Threads
Official Tips and Tricks (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=64057)
Unoffical Tips and Tricks v2.9 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72648)

Unoffical Feature Request Survey
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=80600

Unoffical eSATA Feature Discussion
[URL]http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=66201

[Crypter]

nice... there is at least ONE much desired update with this release. I have to go home and check if I got the update yet. Very cool

[carl6]

No buffer when I turned the HR20 on this morning. (The buffer worked, there just wasn't anything in the buffer - as time passed, it was buffering but was empty at the moment I took the HR20 out of standby).

Connected via SWM.

Carl

[THX]

Does this upgrade apply to the HR20-100 as well?

[Earl Bonovich]

Does this upgrade apply to the HR20-100 as well?

No, hence the name of the thread... ;)

[HarleyD]

I'm not home so I can't check but I do recall seeing the yellow "tip" on group playback when I was in my list this morning.

The West Coast of Florida isn't the West Coast I would have expected to get this release already though.

[beestea]

Cool... im excited to see the new Media Share interface. Anyone have screen shots yet?

[tfederov]

Are "under the cover" items the only difference between the 0x17D and 0x17E releases? I can't seem to find anything different (disclaimer: I'm still on first coffee)

[nullrider]

I have yet to be able to connect. I am using wireless Belkin USB dongle. Can't figure out why it won't connect to my linksys wireless router.

[hilmar2k]

I have yet to be able to connect. I am using wireless Belkin USB dongle. Can't figure out why it won't connect to my linksys wireless router.

As far as I know, you cannot connect via the USB. You need to use the ethernet port.

[VLaslow]

In Music & Photos, my first shot at pictures was working nicely (surprise), but I didn't get all of my folders. I tried music and it was fine, as usual.

I went back to pictures and couldn't get my folders to list. My remote froze and nothing would work. I waited 5 minutes and did a RBR.

Back up, but still some photo issues.

[pdawg17]

Is fastforward correction always enabled? I don't see a menu selection for it...

[Hey_Hey]

I received it at 1:57AM Pacific Time on 7/20/07 so it seems to be happening ahead of the posted schedule.

One of my 3 HR20-700's was dead this AM, I couldn't get it to turn on from the remote or the front panel power button. I unplugged it and replugged it in and it came up and said it had updated the software and needed to re-boot. After that it seemed okay. Is the fact that it was dead on first check indicative of a problem or should I not worry about it?

The second HR20-700 had updated apparently with no problems, it turned on just fine. I didn't check the third one before I had to leave for work.

I played just a little bit with Fast Forward correction and it seemed to be working well. This was the only remaining feature that I really felt I was missing from my HR10-250, so I'm quite happy! I never got used to the 30-sec skip/slip features and had come to rely quite heavily on the Fast Forward correction of the HR10-250 so I was really missing it.

[Doug Brott]

In the setup menus, I noticed that there is an item under "Display" labeled "HDTV" I seem to recall it said something different in past releases. Can someone who is still on ox168 check the setup menu and see what the menu item is under "Display"

[Doug Brott]

Is fastforward correction always enabled? I don't see a menu selection for it...

Does the system seem to be autocorrecting? If not, it is off by default. I believe that the toggle requires a back door code to access it, but I am not certain. I'll let Earl post the instructions if need be.

[Indiana627]

I played just a little bit with Fast Forward correction and it seemed to be working well.
Was there a menu option to turn on the FF correction? How did you turn it on?

[VeniceDre]

No buffer when I turned the HR20 on this morning. (The buffer worked, there just wasn't anything in the buffer - as time passed, it was buffering but was empty at the moment I took the HR20 out of standby).

Connected via SWM.

Carl

+1

No buffer on all 3 this morning, mix of SWM and straight off the 6x8.

[pdawg17]

Does the system seem to be autocorrecting? If not, it is off by default. I believe that the toggle requires a back door code to access it, but I am not certain. I'll let Earl post the instructions if need be.

Should you need a backdoor code for an NR? I thought once features were included in an NR they are then put onto a menu somewhere (like showing grid first, etc)...

[hilmar2k]

Should you need a backdoor code for an NR? I thought once features were included in an NR they are then put onto a menu somewhere (like showing grid first, etc)...

I thought that the one button guide was available in a couple NR's before it made it to the menu.

[gulfwarvet]

i probably already the answer to my question :)
since this has went to NR, is it in the stream to D/L (by forcing)? even tho it's a staggered roll out?
thanks

[Earl Bonovich]

i probably already the answer to my question :)
since this has went to NR, is it in the stream to D/L (by forcing)? even tho it's a staggered roll out?
thanks

Staggered rollout... as noted in the release notes, and the first message of the thread.. ;)

[Hey_Hey]

Was there a menu option to turn on the FF correction? How did you turn it on?

I just tried it and it seemed to work. I didn't change anything on a menu anywhere. I picked a show, FF'ed through a commercial at 3x until I saw the show restarting and hit play. It jumped back to what was probably the very last frame of the commercial, it seemed to hang on that frame for maybe 0.5 seconds (it was an action commercial so it definitely seemed stuck on one frame, not a series of static frames) and then start playing the beginning of the show. This happened to be a show from an MPEG2 SD channel. I saw the same behavior a couple times I tried.

[Doug Brott]

FFW Correction is still in the Advanced Menu (via Back Door).

[gulfwarvet]

Staggered rollout... as noted in the release notes, and the first message of the thread.. ;)

Thanks,
i think i should have stated/asked for that time zone.

[judson_west]

Well, I got it sometime between 9PM last night and 11:30 this morning. The reason I don't know is that I had to RBR to get it to respond. This is the 2nd national release and the second RBR because of it.

I checked for autocorrection and it seems to be there. I still have network connectivity but I don't see a reference to my pictures/audio in the Menu. I may have to boot my PC, or something like that.

Update: Rebooted my PC and Music and Photos shows up in Menu. When selected my PC shows up twice. The first entry is good and the second is bad. Once in I select Audio and look for my music. Everything is X'ed out. I am running TVersity 0.9.10.5. In the previous release of the HR20 code, I didn't have to do anything to the TVersity S/W to tell it it was talking to a HR20. It then transcoded all of my .M4A files to MP3 on the fly. After the new HR20 S/W, I had to tell TVersity that it was communicating with a HR20 before this would happen. Music is now fine. Pictures do display but it appears that Media Share has been substantially reworked and when you go into the My Pictures, the HR20 attempts to put up a bunch of thumbnails of some pictures. I'm not sure where the pictures are coming from since when I went into a specific folder, the same thumbnails were trying to display -- SLOWLY. Once you are at a group of pictures, they do display OK but at a very limited resolution.

[Tony Chick]

I have a Maxtor NAS (Network Attached Storage) unit with a built-in Media server. In 0x168 and 0x179, it appeared in the list of Computers and showed all my mp3 tracks but they all had an X next to them. In 0x17E (and the D CE), it doesn't show up in the list of computers at all. iTunes on both my Vista PC and my MAC sees it just fine.
My PCs running WMP11 do show up & the mp3s do play.

I know they are only supporting ViiV, but it seemed worth mentioning.

[carl6]

Audio Dropouts and Audio/Video out of synch. Went back in the live tv buffer (local mpeg4 station), and have had continuous serious audio/video synch issues, and some audio dropout issues. Have not seen this for a number of CE's, but it is sure bad now. When I first turned the HR20 on this morning (after getting the update automatically) I had no buffer. Since then I have a buffer, but the synch issues is major (perhaps 5 full seconds of difference). Have not yet changed channels, which I expect will correct. Have backed up in the buffer, skipped back, skipped forward, - things that have in the past corrected the synch problem.

Okay, dumped the buffer (changed channels) and am back in synch.

Carl

[bobnielsen]

I have a Maxtor NAS (Network Attached Storage) unit with a built-in Media server. In 0x168 and 0x179, it appeared in the list of Computers and showed all my mp3 tracks but they all had an X next to them. In 0x17E (and the D CE), it doesn't show up in the list of computers at all. iTunes on both my Vista PC and my MAC sees it just fine.
My PCs running WMP11 do show up & the mp3s do play.

I know they are only supporting ViiV, but it seemed worth mentioning.

Possibly the Maxtor sends out the mp3s raw, while the HR20 requires that they be transcoded (which Viiv, Tversity, WMP11 and Twonky will do). Some of the earlier releases with Media Share would actually list video files (which were X'd out) but the newer version doesn't display them at all.

[dmoneyd]

At least once a week I have to restart via the menu due to the "771 error no signal on tuner 1." I miss a lot of recordings because of this. Do you think the BBC's are bad or just a defective tuner and I need to replace the whole unit? Both tuners on my HR10-250 continue to work.

[Coffey77]

Actually, I tried to download today and got 0x168. No 0x17E in the Chicagoland area yet.

[finaldiet]

Actually, I tried to download today and got 0x168. No 0x17E in the Chicagoland area yet.

Yea, I don't yet either!

[BuffaloDenny]

Can someone give the quick skinny on the release approach D* uses between the 700's and the 100's? I've only been here a short while, but it seems 700's get all the updates where the 100's only get them few and far between. Is there a reason behind this? Why can't both be at the same level at the same time, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be any real diffrence between the boxes?

[gully_foyle]

Got 0x17e today.

I note one thing right off: With Native Mode set and all 4 resolutions enabled, shows that I know are in 1080i or 720p come up as 480p on the LEDs and on the TV's resolution display.

If I move up and down the OTA channels, for example, I might get a station at 1080i and the next time (with the same program feed) I might get 480p. Numb3rs on CBS, for example.


Can someone else please play with this and let me know what's up? I've temporarily gone to 1080i fixed.

Complete settings: 16x9, pillar, native on, all 4 rezes checked.

[Meklos]

Is this release supposed to fix the OTA/Sat scheduling problem, where a Series Link for an OTA show gets wiped out / ignored when a Series Link for the simultaneous broadcast of the same program via satellite is scheduled?

I've had this particular bug since OTA was enabled, and I haven't seen anyone list it in the known bugs list, nor acknowledge its existence.

[Hutchinshouse]

It's back again........... Three entries under Music and Photos under "my computer".

[gully_foyle]

Got 0x17e today.

I note one thing right off: With Native Mode set and all 4 resolutions enabled, shows that I know are in 1080i or 720p come up as 480p on the LEDs and on the TV's resolution display.

If I move up and down the OTA channels, for example, I might get a station at 1080i and the next time (with the same program feed) I might get 480p. Numb3rs on CBS, for example.


Can someone else please play with this and let me know what's up? I've temporarily gone to 1080i fixed.

Complete settings: 16x9, pillar, native on, all 4 rezes checked.

And now, when I go back to native from fixed, and re-enable all the rezes, it works, mostly. Go figure.

[litzdog911]

At least once a week I have to restart via the menu due to the "771 error no signal on tuner 1." I miss a lot of recordings because of this. Do you think the BBC's are bad or just a defective tuner and I need to replace the whole unit? Both tuners on my HR10-250 continue to work.

Try removing the BBCs and see if that helps. You can also swap the two satellite cables to see if the problem "moves" to Tuner 2.

[John4924]

In the setup menus, I noticed that there is an item under "Display" labeled "HDTV" I seem to recall it said something different in past releases. Can someone who is still on ox168 check the setup menu and see what the menu item is under "Display"

I still have 0x168 here in the Big Easy, and the item under "Display" is "HDTV". Is this what you were asking for, or do you require more detail. Let me know. :)

Cheers,
John

[kenn157]

No 0x17e here in Boston area

[macdawg]

No 0x17e here in Boston area

NO 0x17e here in Wash DC area.:(

[calidelphia]

At least once a week I have to restart via the menu due to the "771 error no signal on tuner 1." I miss a lot of recordings because of this. Do you think the BBC's are bad or just a defective tuner and I need to replace the whole unit? Both tuners on my HR10-250 continue to work.

Did you try the BBC test on Channel 499?

[Hutchinshouse]

Had unit paused for 10 minutes. Screen saver did not come on.

[MrRoarke]

Maybe someone can shed a little light, but I thought I had read here a while back that we would never be getting the fast forward correction because that jump back feature was something that Tivo had patented. Was that info incorrect? or has Directv found a different way to implement?

This is cool. It's the one thing I've really missed about my old Tivo unit.

[Cobra]

At least once a week I have to restart via the menu due to the "771 error no signal on tuner 1." I miss a lot of recordings because of this. Do you think the BBC's are bad or just a defective tuner and I need to replace the whole unit? Both tuners on my HR10-250 continue to work.

I use to have this problem also, someone suggested that you tighten them up real tight, both ends, since then, I have not had 1 problem with the 771 error, unless we get a bad downpoor, hope this helps. Also, like someone else suggested, test the bbc's on the test channel

[Smuuth]

Got 0x17e today.

I note one thing right off: With Native Mode set and all 4 resolutions enabled, shows that I know are in 1080i or 720p come up as 480p on the LEDs and on the TV's resolution display.

If I move up and down the OTA channels, for example, I might get a station at 1080i and the next time (with the same program feed) I might get 480p. Numb3rs on CBS, for example.


Can someone else please play with this and let me know what's up? I've temporarily gone to 1080i fixed.

Complete settings: 16x9, pillar, native on, all 4 rezes checked.
And now, when I go back to native from fixed, and re-enable all the rezes, it works, mostly. Go figure.I am curious. Are you using component or HDMI connection?

[Doug Brott]

I still have 0x168 here in the Big Easy, and the item under "Display" is "HDTV". Is this what you were asking for, or do you require more detail. Let me know. :)

Cheers,
John

Thanks it must have changed before I thought, then. I did find some "old software" on a different receiver type and it says "TV Type" rather than "HDTV." That's the wording that used to be there on the HR20 but has now changed.

[Doug Brott]

Maybe someone can shed a little light, but I thought I had read here a while back that we would never be getting the fast forward correction because that jump back feature was something that Tivo had patented. Was that info incorrect? or has Directv found a different way to implement?

This is cool. It's the one thing I've really missed about my old Tivo unit.

This was speculated on heavily here @ DBSTalk.com. The consensus among us was that there was no way that FFW correction could be implemented without violating the Patent. I'm sure DIRECTV has looked at the situation and made their own judgments based on agreements or business decisions that we are not privy to.

The good news is that it is there, and I'm think that it is a great addition.

[litzdog911]

This was speculated on heavily here @ DBSTalk.com. The consensus among us was that there was no way that FFW correction could be implemented without violating the Patent. I'm sure DIRECTV has looked at the situation and made their own judgments based on agreements or business decisions that we are not privy to.

The good news is that it is there, and I'm think that it is a great addition.

I'm guessing that DirecTV reached a patent/licensing agreement with Tivo to implement this feature. But we'll probably never know the real story.

[kintaro]

I just noticed the FFW correction this morning. I'm in the Los Angeles area, btw. At 2x FFW it went back about 10 seconds, I sure missed that feature. Now if we can get Dual Live buffers I'd be a very happy man.

[PoitNarf]

I notice no mention of the super crop bug in the release notes. Could it be that it has been fixed but they neglected to include it in the notes? Earl?

I really want this bug gone for good... :(

[ktabel01]

So when our receiver gets this, FFW autocorrection will be there, or we have to activate it?

[trevorst]

Not sure if this is related to the latest software or just a coincidence. The crop aspect ratio on my unit has been over stretching since the S/W load yesterday. In 1080i mode when I use crop on an SD channel will be Ok then it will just stretch about 10 -15 percent making everything look tall & skinny. Also if I bring up a menu or guide it will cause it to happen. Change channels a few times and I can get back to normal for a while.

I have only had the unit since Monday so I have no long term history but I know it never happend prior to the latest download.

HR-20 connected to a Panasonic Plasma via DVR, native off, only 1080i selected as resolution. (makes changing aspect easy)

[gully_foyle]

I am curious. Are you using component or HDMI connection? HDMI-video, optical-audio. See equipment list below.

[gully_foyle]

I'm guessing that DirecTV reached a patent/licensing agreement with Tivo to implement this feature. But we'll probably never know the real story.DirecTV has a blanket TiVo license, signed 1 day before the jury found DiSH in infringement. I would assume it covers all TiVo DVR patents. One of the reasons I've never found the "patent" excuse too convincing.

[n3ntj]

I thought 0x17E was supposed to be the new CE for the HR20-100 and not the -700. Is this new national release related to the current -100 only CE?

I saw the release notes for the -100 0x17E CE. Does the national release (0x17E) have these same release notes as the -100 0x17E improvements and new features?

[spoonman]

I thought 0x17E was supposed to be the new CE for the HR20-100 and not the -700. Is this new national release related to the current -100 only CE?

I saw the release notes for the -100 0x17E CE. Does the national release (0x17E) have these same release notes as the -100 0x17E improvements and new features?

The -700 is getting a new NR that has the same version number as the CE -100 are getting. Also, I would think they both have the same features.

[hilmar2k]

I saw the release notes for the -100 0x17E CE. Does the national release (0x17E) have these same release notes as the -100 0x17E improvements and new features?

Compare for yourself...

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92449

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92558

[Ed Campbell]

Can someone give the quick skinny on the release approach D* uses between the 700's and the 100's? I've only been here a short while, but it seems 700's get all the updates where the 100's only get them few and far between. Is there a reason behind this? Why can't both be at the same level at the same time, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be any real diffrence between the boxes?

Pretty much everything in the wild is a 700. When the CE's started, there only were 700's for HR20.

I don't know what tweak differences there are between the two; but, with different manufacturers [what 100 vs. 700 means] and probably internals changed [advanced?], there must be minor software tweaks at a minimum.

700 CE's have a much larger base to experiment with.

[RMSko]

FFW Correction is still in the Advanced Menu (via Back Door).
Does this mean that FFW Correction is not automatically on?

[Michael D'Angelo]

Does this mean that FFW Correction is not automatically on? If it's not on, what is the back door to the advanced menu?

If you have not done the "IAMANEDGECUTTER" search then you have to do that first.

Press menu-->search-->keyword-->type "IAMANEDGECUTTER"-->continue-->all-->when it finds nothing press and hole menu and info button on the front of the HR20 together for 2 seconds and let go. I hidden menu will pop up.

[Drew2k]

So when our receiver gets this, FFW autocorrection will be there, or we have to activate it?I believe it will be pre-activated, as that was how it was done during test releases.

(But after reading BMore's post, maybe you DO have to activate it first.)

[fiveputts]

I knew nothing about the update and last night set the box to record this morning's British Open. Noticed the FFW autocorrection right away and thought it was a glitch with the broadcast coming from Scotland. Now I know that autocorrection is here AND I AM STOKED. Missed it a lot from tivo.

I did not do anything to activate. It was just there.

[Doug Brott]

Does this mean that FFW Correction is not automatically on?

From earlier posts, it appears that FFW correction is on by default. To use it, you shouldn't have to do anything which makes Earl's notes correct in the matter. Now, if you want to turn it off, then you can do it through the Advanced menu using the method described above.

[islesfan]

No video on MP4 stations today, looked like a BSB, but in the traditional BSB it was the MP2 stations that went black. Anyway, after I left it on channel 2 for about 5 minutes, the picture returned, and it was back on all the other MP4 stations as well.

[jpete20024]

Tried to download 0x17E at 11:40 PM EST but only got 0168. Anyone else have this problem?

[Michael D'Angelo]

Tried to download 0x17E at 11:40 PM EST but only got 0168. Anyone else have this problem?

It is rolling out in a national update. It is not a CE update. You should get it in the next couple of days.

[spoonman]

Tried to download 0x17E at 11:40 PM EST but only got 0168. Anyone else have this problem?

Its a staggered release, I think only the west cost so far has gotten it?

[Smuuth]

Its a staggered release, I think only the west cost so far has gotten it?I forced a download Friday morning and got 0x17e. So far I see no changes from 0x17d, the last CE I had.

[Hutchinshouse]

One of my 3 HR20-700's was dead this AM, I couldn't get it to turn on from the remote or the front panel power button.

+1

This happened to me this morning:
Remote did not work.
Front panel did not work.
RBR did not work (the power light came on for a second then went out).
Unplugged the DVR for 5 minutes did not work.
Unplugged the DVR for 15 minutes did not work.

I'm unplugging it for an hour and I'll report back soon.

FYI - The DVR made noise as if it was functioning, however the noise was much quieter than normal.

See my sig for system details.

This is the NR pushed to my DVR. :nono2: So far 2 reports of dead units. :nono2: Any ideas?

[Hutchinshouse]

I received it at 1:57AM Pacific Time on 7/20/07 so it seems to be happening ahead of the posted schedule.

One of my 3 HR20-700's was dead this AM, I couldn't get it to turn on from the remote or the front panel power button. I unplugged it and replugged it in and it came up and said it had updated the software and needed to re-boot. After that it seemed okay. Is the fact that it was dead on first check indicative of a problem or should I not worry about it?

The second HR20-700 had updated apparently with no problems, it turned on just fine. I didn't check the third one before I had to leave for work.

I played just a little bit with Fast Forward correction and it seemed to be working well. This was the only remaining feature that I really felt I was missing from my HR10-250, so I'm quite happy! I never got used to the 30-sec skip/slip features and had come to rely quite heavily on the Fast Forward correction of the HR10-250 so I was really missing it.

It's a problem. Let us know if you have any other issues with this DVR.

[Hutchinshouse]

Well, letting it sit for an hour did the trick. All is up and running. It successfully recorded a show at 10:45 PM last night. So the issue had to happen somewhere between 11:15 PM and 6:15 AM PST this morning. I'm using a chill-mat so over temp is not the issue. Anyone reading this please log your issue if you experience a dead unit (unresponsive to remote and front panel).

[txtommy]

Still have not received 17E in Houston area. In the 'System Info' screen there is listed the Software Original Version, Past Upgrade and Future Upgrade. The future upgrade indicates 'Not Scheduled' as it always has. Since an upgrade is somewhat imminent shouldn't a date/time be listed? Has anyone ever seen anything on this line other than 'Not Scheduled'? Does it actually have a function?

[Hutchinshouse]

Still have not received 17E in Houston area. In the 'System Info' screen there is listed the Software Original Version, Past Upgrade and Future Upgrade. The future upgrade indicates 'Not Scheduled' as it always has. Since an upgrade is somewhat imminent shouldn't a date/time be listed? Has anyone ever seen anything on this line other than 'Not Scheduled'? Does it actually have a function?

I've only seen 'Not Scheduled'

[danco]

Wow! Just noticed the FF correction this morning. This is great!

I've already reached the point with my HR20-700 that I no longer mourn the loss of my HD-TiVo. It's been several updates (since at least March) that I haven't had any problems with a dead box, missed recording, or had to do a RBR.

The only two items left on my wishlist were the FF correction and dual live buffers. And now I can cross off the FF correction...

After all the talk about the TiVo patent and how we'll never see FF correction, I now have faith that we'll eventually see DLB too!

My thanks to the D* programming team, who are doing a bang-up job!

~Dan

[hilmar2k]

I've only seen 'Not Scheduled'

From what I understand, it will show a schedule for the future update a few minutes before the update downloads. Kind of pointless, if you ask me...

[Tom Robertson]

From what I understand, it will show a schedule for the future update a few minutes before the update downloads. Kind of pointless, if you ask me...

Depends on how far out they schedule your download. Currently it's not been scheduled for more than a few minutes ahead, so for the very, very few people who actually look to see if a download is scheduled, it has, perhaps, been pointless. But I suppose a future one could be scheduled someday far enough out that a few more people might notice.

Cheers,
Tom

[SBHD]

I notice no mention of the super crop bug in the release notes. Could it be that it has been fixed but they neglected to include it in the notes? Earl?

I really want this bug gone for good... :(

It's NOT gone. I thought it was, for a while, then it started again last night. It is improved, insomuch as it easy much easier to "trip" it back into the proper crop, by either switching back to a HD channel or playing with pause/play, etc.

Better, but definitely NOT fixed!

[Burt]

It's NOT gone. I thought it was, for a while, then it started again last night. It is improved, insomuch as it easy much easier to "trip" it [I]back into the proper crop, by either switching back to a HD channel or playing with pause/play, etc.

Better, but definitely NOT fixed!

This is a note I posted on another board:

If you do a few skips (slips) or few back-skips, or a few pauses in crop mode, the aspect ratio is actually broken. The picture is stretched vertically into no standard format. (It is frightening to see William Shatner with a face that is three times taller than it is wide, instead of the other way around.)

Since I frequently watch letter-boxed programs in SD, it is a major pain. It doesn't happen all the time, but frequently enough to be a real irritation.

I contacted D* and they told me to hit the red reset button. I did, and it fixed the problem for a few days, then the problem came back. I tried this several times with the same results.

D* sent me a replacement unit. It behaves exactly the same way as the original unit. The aspect ratio gets broken frequently in crop mode.

Is this the bug you are referring to as the Super Crop Bug or the Crop-Stretch bug?

It's driving me nuts. VOS suggested a workaround that at least gets you a watchable picture, but it is a nuisance to have to use it. (I'm not even going to try to teach it to my wife.)

Hope they fix it soon.

Burt

[mlcdorgan]

:confused: Well still at 0x17d here in NE Texas (Texarkana, on Texas and Arkansas line).

When they say staggered I guess they mean staggered (what 1 or 2 counties a day), lmao.

[hilmar2k]

:confused: Well still at 0x17d here in NE Texas (Texarkana, on Texas and Arkansas line).

When they say staggered I guess they mean staggered (what 1 or 2 counties a day), lmao.

I think it's by the street. ;)

[Ruffread]

As of last night the super crop of SD channels, live or recorded, has not returned. I have been able to cycle through the formats and dimensions have been all normal. I hope it sticks this time, as in the past it became flaky after a few days.

[SBHD]

This is a note I posted on another board:

Is this the bug you are referring to as the Super Crop Bug or the Crop-Stretch bug?

It's driving me nuts. VOS suggested a workaround that at least gets you a watchable picture, but it is a nuisance to have to use it. (I'm not even going to try to teach it to my wife.)

Hope they fix it soon.

Burt

Yes. This is the same bug. It's better (more recoverable) in 0x17E, but not gone. Can't begin to guess at exact causes, but it's the sort of thing a memory leak can cause. i.e. it works for a while after initialization, then creeps back after the system has run for a while. Seems like they found some, but not all. Hopefully, they're still hunting them down.

So far, with a bit of fiddling, I can get it to stick in the proper mode. Otherwise, I have to resort to using the display's "zoom". Not the best solution, as you probably know, because it also crops the DTV's guide and controls.

[SBHD]

As of last night the super crop of SD channels, live or recorded, has not returned. I have been able to cycle through the formats and dimensions have been all normal. I hope it sticks this time, as in the past it became flaky after a few days.

I was hoping it was gone, too, as it seemed solid for the first day. But, apparently, it reared its ugly head :(

[Drew2k]

From what I understand, it will show a schedule for the future update a few minutes before the update downloads. Kind of pointless, if you ask me...I wonder if this "schedule" date may get filled in with something when or if the user sees the prompt that a new download is available, but chooses to to postpone it?

[wakajawaka]

1st Issue I've had for a long time. While watching a previously recorded Simpsons, the HR20 DELETED IT to make room to record a new Simpsons. I have my series link to keep only 2, I had 2 already recorded and a new one came on and it deleted the recording I was watching right in the middle of it. Serious bug in my opinion.

[bpob]

Any idea when the update is scheduled for the Chicagoland area?

[finaldiet]

Any idea when the update is scheduled for the Chicagoland area?

I'm waiting also.:(

[PoitNarf]

It's NOT gone. I thought it was, for a while, then it started again last night. It is improved, insomuch as it easy much easier to "trip" it back into the proper crop, by either switching back to a HD channel or playing with pause/play, etc.

Better, but definitely NOT fixed!

...

The offer is still on the table for each HR20 developer to receive a case of beer of their choosing if they fix this in the next software build. If not, I withdraw any beverage offerings!!!

Seriously though, can we get this fixed already?

Time to bump up my existing threads on this bug... AGAIN.... :nono2:

Please share your experiences with this bug in this thread as well:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=87960

[gblues]

1st Issue I've had for a long time. While watching a previously recorded Simpsons, the HR20 DELETED IT to make room to record a new Simpsons. I have my series link to keep only 2, I had 2 already recorded and a new one came on and it deleted the recording I was watching right in the middle of it. Serious bug in my opinion.

I had this happen once on my HR20-100 on the 0x168 release.

[MartyS]

1st Issue I've had for a long time. While watching a previously recorded Simpsons, the HR20 DELETED IT to make room to record a new Simpsons. I have my series link to keep only 2, I had 2 already recorded and a new one came on and it deleted the recording I was watching right in the middle of it. Serious bug in my opinion.

I don't know that I'd call it a serious bug, since the HR20 only did what it was programmed to do, i.e. what you told it to do... keep only 2 episodes. When the third episode shows up, the oldest one is deleted, plain and simple.

That's why I have mine set to keep 5. That way I never had a problem in the event I get behind in watching recorded programs. Also, I rarely have more than 2 in the queue unless I go out of town for a while.

[xandor]

Any idea when the update is scheduled for the Chicagoland area?

I am waiting as well...I missed the last couple of CEs, and want to see this one.

[wakajawaka]

I don't know that I'd call it a serious bug, since the HR20 only did what it was programmed to do, i.e. what you told it to do... keep only 2 episodes. When the third episode shows up, the oldest one is deleted, plain and simple.

That's why I have mine set to keep 5. That way I never had a problem in the event I get behind in watching recorded programs. Also, I rarely have more than 2 in the queue unless I go out of town for a while.

Maybe not a bug per se, However a DVR should NEVER delete anything WHILE YOU ARE WATCHING IT. Huge error in programming logic. Dare I say, TIVO would never do this. Upping it to keep 5 won't guarantee anything only upping to keep all would. Just curious, do you think the logic is fine the way it is and shouldn't be changed? I just think it's asinine to delete something while you're in the middle of watching it. If I'm alone in this I'll drop it, but I'd like to hear more opinions on this.

[nullrider]

As far as I know, you cannot connect via the USB. You need to use the ethernet port.

Then why is there a wireless setup option?

[tfederov]

I wonder if this "schedule" date may get filled in with something when or if the user sees the prompt that a new download is available, but chooses to to postpone it?

I didn't think we could postpone these downloads. The way to do it on the TiVos was to pull the phone line but we don't (to my knowledge) have something like that on the HR20s.

[Ruffread]

The super crop bug is back! Last night, while watching recordings from National Geographic, I pushed format to crop, and got only exaggerated vertical extensions. Cycling several times, it finally stuck to proper size.
When I fast forwarded, it again super cropped! I guess they can't fix it.

[hilmar2k]

Then why is there a wireless setup option?

You can connect wirelessly, just not using USB. You need a wireless ethernet adapter. There are a bunch of threads on the topic if you do a search.

[romwarrior88]

It's nice to have auto correction back. I noticed that even in the 1x FFW it jumps back a few seconds. I actually wish it did NOT do this since the 1x is so slow. This is how the TiVo was. I like it for all the other speeds, though. Also, I think I was noticing that auto correction was never occuring for RW. Is this correct?

Is auto correction the only new feature included in this release?

[hilmar2k]

It's nice to have auto correction back. I noticed that even in the 1x FFW it jumps back a few seconds. I actually wish it did NOT do this since the 1x is so slow. This is how the TiVo was. I like it for all the other speeds, though. Also, I think I was noticing that auto correction was never occuring for RW. Is this correct?

Is auto correction the only new feature included in this release?

Auto correction is for FF only.

[DCSholtis]

Still looking for it in Cleveland too...

[kenn157]

Still looking for it in Cleveland too...

So when's this going to happen? :confused:

[RobertE]

Remote codes

Issue 1: Remote codes for TV & AV selections no longer word wrap.

Problem: Only 6 or 7 remote codes are displayed. All other codes are off screen with NO way to display them. See TV codes for RCA and/or Emerson for examples.

Issue 2: Code list now relates to RC64 remote (assumed)

Problem: There needs to be user selection where the user must select what RC series remote they have. This will save the user much frustration by trying to enter codes that their remote does not have. Will also save calls to CSRs about remote codes not working.

Problem started with new GUI.

[tfederov]

Forced it here, so far so good.

[kenn157]

Forced it here, so far so good.


I just tried and its going! finally! :D

[ktabel01]

Anyone else force it. Still waiting here in Chicago

[tfederov]

You can try forcing it. If it comes up with anything besides 17E you can RBR before 90% and stay on the code you're currently using.

[Michael D'Angelo]

Just downloaded it on all 3 of mine.

[Drew2k]

I didn't think we could postpone these downloads. The way to do it on the TiVos was to pull the phone line but we don't (to my knowledge) have something like that on the HR20s.If you happen to be watching TV when the HR20 is notified that new NR software is available, you'll see a prompt with something like, "New software is currently available. Do you want to download and install it now? (Yes) (No)". Ive seen this when activating new receivers which had old software on them. I only chose NO once, on one receiver, but didn't get to look at the Info page at the time (it was my first HR20, in March, and at the time I didn't know there WAS an Info page!), but that's how you can postpone the software installation.

[Michael D'Angelo]

I lost my guide on all 3 of my HR20's. This is the first time it happened since the DIRECTV started saving the guide.

[DCSholtis]

Anyone else force it. Still waiting here in Chicago

Just forced it here in Cleveland. After my error last week and rolling back my software by mistake, (OOPS). Now that I have 0x17E I feel more "in the loop again". :D

[houskamp]

Still can crash Media play in pictures..

[tfederov]

If you happen to be watching TV when the HR20 is notified that new NR software is available, you'll see a prompt with something like, "New software is currently available. Do you want to download and install it now? (Yes) (No)". Ive seen this when activating new receivers which had old software on them. I only chose NO once, on one receiver, but didn't get to look at the Info page at the time (it was my first HR20, in March, and at the time I didn't know there WAS an Info page!), but that's how you can postpone the software installation.

Yeah, what I was thinking of postpone was if I didn't want to upgrade it at all or wait a few months. The type you're talking about is more of a watch it to ask or else it'll assume yes and pull down the new stuff.

I knew about the prompt screen but when I activated my last HR20 so I was expecting that when I powered it up. Never got the screen and it upgraded itself while I was calling D* to activate it. After that experience I thought they pulled the option.

[uncrules]

Just downloaded it on all 3 of mine.
Are you forcing it the same way you force a CE download?

[Michael D'Angelo]

Are you forcing it the same way you force a CE download?

Yes

[say-what]

Buffer is dumped under the following scenario: buffer on active tuner, switch to prerecorded show from "My Video", new recording starts on the background tuner. When you return to the active tuner, the buffer is gone.

no loss of buffer if the recording starts on the background tuner prior to switching to prerecorded show in "My Video"

Also, loss of background on active channel when returning to the main menu from lotto and weather.

[jheda]

Earls notes state: "Playback of currrently recording show is paused if user toggles to live and
back (SLB)"

this appears to means the LIVE SHOW remains paused as you toggle to the recorded show, and u toggle by going to the recorded show with List and back to live with Exit.

is that different then what u r performing?

Buffer is dumped under the following scenario: buffer on active tuner, switch to prerecorded show from "My Video", new recording starts on the background tuner. When you return to the active tuner, the buffer is gone.

no loss of buffer if the recording starts on the background tuner prior to switching to prerecorded show in "My Video"

Also, loss of background on active channel when returning to the main menu from lotto and weather.

[jheda]

can anyone confirm its in the stram for florida?

[Michael D'Angelo]

can anyone confirm its in the stram for florida?

You should be able to download it from any where. Try and if it is not 0x17e. Just RBR before 90%.

[say-what]

Earls notes state: "Playback of currrently recording show is paused if user toggles to live and back (SLB)"

this appears to means the LIVE SHOW remains paused as you toggle to the recorded show, and u toggle by going to the recorded show with List and back to live with Exit.

is that different then what u r performing?
I'm not exactly sure how this works as I've never tried it, but it sounds like if I'm watching a show that is currently recording and I "toggle" to a live broadcast, the show I am recording will pause so I don't lose my place. That's different than what I am describing. What I described was this.

Watching live so program is buffering on the active tuner. Go to "My Video" and select an OLD recording to watch. Normally, and this is what I still experience, if I go back to live, the buffer is still there on what I was last watching. However, if while I am watching that older recorded program and a new program starts recording on a channel other than the one I was last watching, i.e. it starts on the background tuner, the buffer dumps on the active tuner for the channel I was last watching. Now this isn't something that I noticed until someone else reported it in a separate thread last release, but since I tested it then, I rechecked. Not really something that I think I would have ever noticed or worried about otherwise.

[say-what]

You should be able to download it from any where. Try and if it is not 0x17e. Just RBR before 90%.Yep, saw you downloaded, checked Brott's site and saw it in the stream, so restarted with 02468

Have 17e in New Orleans

[jheda]

will try after yankee game...want to test this slb..thanx Bmore!!!

You should be able to download it from any where. Try and if it is not 0x17e. Just RBR before 90%.

[jheda]

so in other words, while you r watching the recorded program, your background tuner had to switch to another channel to record something you programmed, correct?

I'm not exactly sure how this works as I've never tried it, but it sounds like if I'm watching a show that is currently recording and I "toggle" to a live broadcast, the show I am recording will pause so I don't lose my place. That's different than what I am describing. What I described was this.

Watching live so program is buffering on the active tuner. Go to "My Video" and select an OLD recording to watch. Normally, and this is what I still experience, if I go back to live, the buffer is still there on what I was last watching. However, if while I am watching that older recorded program and a new program starts recording on a channel other than the one I was last watching, i.e. it starts on the background tuner, the buffer dumps on the active tuner for the channel I was last watching. Now this isn't something that I noticed until someone else reported it in a separate thread last release, but since I tested it then, I rechecked. Not really something that I think I would have ever noticed or worried about otherwise.

[say-what]

so in other words, while you r watching the recorded program, your background tuner had to switch to another channel to record something you programmed, correct?
exactly. The active tuner, which was on the last channel I was watching stayed on that channel, the background tuner is then used to record the program and the recording starts while I am watching a previously recorded show.

Now I tried what Earl's notes decribe, and while tricky, it works, but it's different than what I described. For what's desribed in Earl's notes to work, you have to start watching the currently recording program from the "My Video" list and then if you tune to a different channel, the active recording will pause and when you use the "prev" button to jump back to the active recording, it will resume at the paused point. It will continue to work if you jump back and forth between those 2 items using the "prev" button or if you tune to a different channel and then jump back with "prev" or reaccess the current recording via "My Playlist". If you jump to live in the current recording, you lose the toggle/pause.

[DawgLink]

Man, that was a quick d/l....thought it was supposed to be a big one.

Done in less then 5 minutes :)

[jheda]

we are on the same page.

still waiting for yankee game to end to force and test, but yes what you describe is the newest and easiest workaround to DLB. And it is a pretty good one.imho.

exactly. The active tuner, which was on the last channel I was watching stayed on that channel, the background tuner is then used to record the program and the recording starts while I am watching a previously recorded show.

Now I tried what Earl's notes decribe, and while tricky, it works, but it's different than what I described. For what's desribed in Earl's notes to work, you have to start watching the currently recording program from the "My Video" list and then if you tune to a different channel, the active recording will pause and when you use the "prev" button to jump back to the active recording, it will resume at the paused point. It will continue to work if you jump back and forth between those 2 items using the "prev" button or if you tune to a different channel and then jump back with "prev" or reaccess the current recording via "My Playlist". If you jump to live in the current recording, you lose the toggle/pause.

[Milominderbinder2]

Please see the thread documenting the new Search Results Sort Order Bug:

Would You Check to See If Your Keyword Search Order is Always HD First Now? (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92857)

I included photos of the Search Results Sort Order Bug and detailed steps on how to reproduce it.

Thanks,

Craig

[HouseBowlrz]

National Release:
Staggered release, initial roll out to Pacific Time zone July 21, 2007.

The more detail the better Simply put... the more detail you can provide the better the feedback.


Mine was updated three hours ago ... something I noticed this morning.

Prior to this release, I would hit the "Guide" button and get the category/filter list to select "All Channels", "Move & Event Channels", etc.

Now when I hit the "Guide" button from live TV, I get the entire guide first; I need to hit "Guide" a second time to get the category/filter list.


:goodjob:

[kmkraft_1974]

i had noticed a increased GUI resolution with the 0x17D CE. Seems like it has reverted to the "softer" GUI with 0x17E. anyone else notice this?

[hilmar2k]

Mine was updated three hours ago ... something I noticed this morning.

Prior to this release, I would hit the "Guide" button and get the category/filter list to select "All Channels", "Move & Event Channels", etc.

Now when I hit the "Guide" button from live TV, I get the entire guide first; I need to hit "Guide" a second time to get the category/filter list.


:goodjob:

The order in which the guide and category filter comes up has been user selectable for a few software releases now. But it looks like they may have swapped the default with 0x17E. Did anyone else have it set to default to category prior to 0x17E who can confirm this?

[HouseBowlrz]

The order in which the guide and category filter comes up has been user selectable for a few software releases now. But it looks like they may have swapped the default with 0x17E. Did anyone else have it set to default to category prior to 0x17E who can confirm this?

I wasn't aware that was selectable; then again, I just came on board here a week or two ago. :cool:

I was able to set it back to Category ... it's either that or Grid.


:goodjob:

[acomire]

Hi all -

I finally got TVersity working with all my MP3s and digital photos yesterday and when I woke up this morning I found that 17E killed it all. I can no longer open any MP3 with an error about unable to play, searching content.

The new interface for browsing photos is so unbelievably slow I finally gave up.

very frustrating....

[jmschnur]

Tversity did not work upon update.

WMP 11 audio does not work-I waited for 5 minutes.
WMP 11 playlists does work but very slow access.

I have my CDs as ripped WMA lossels. There are over 1000 ripped ablums.

I will check pictures tonight.

[jheda]

I posted a seperate thread on this , but in case it gets better response here, and it is an issue as i couldnt get the feature to work...

Earls release notes state: "Playback of currrently recording show is paused if user toggles to live and
back (SLB)"

this appears to means the LIVE SHOW remains paused as you toggle to the recorded show, and u toggle by going to the recorded show with List and back to live with Exit.

I forced 17e last night and tested this many different ways (a recording show, a recorded show, pausing the recording when exiting etc.) and couldnt get the nonrecorded "live" buffer to hold its pause after exiting the recorded show.

Can anyone make the live buffer remain paused and if so what are the exact steps that worked? Is this a bug and not performing yet or user error on my part?

Once its working i will ask it to be added to tips and tricks as this is a much improved workaround.

thanks guys!!!!

[russelle777]

Got it in Florida this morning. Played with it a little before I left. I like the ff fix. Everything else is fine. so far.

[say-what]

I posted a seperate thread on this , but in case it gets better response here, and it is an issue as i couldnt get the feature to work...

Earls release notes state: "Playback of currrently recording show is paused if user toggles to live and
back (SLB)"

this appears to means the LIVE SHOW remains paused as you toggle to the recorded show, and u toggle by going to the recorded show with List and back to live with Exit.

I forced 17e last night and tested this many different ways (a recording show, a recorded show, pausing the recording when exiting etc.) and couldnt get the nonrecorded "live" buffer to hold its pause after exiting the recorded show.

Can anyone make the live buffer remain paused and if so what are the exact steps that worked? Is this a bug and not performing yet or user error on my part?

Once its working i will ask it to be added to tips and tricks as this is a much improved workaround.

thanks guys!!!!Only way I got this to work was to access the currently recording program via "My Playlist" - not tuning to the channel while the program is being recorded.

[jheda]

when u exit the currently recording program you accessed via playlist, was the "live" pause point held? I also accessed the recording via playlist after pausing the live b8ffer, but for the life of me after exiting went right to live and not the pause point.... Only way I got this to work was to access the currently recording program via "My Playlist" - not tuning to the channel while the program is being recorded.

[hasan]

Tversity did not work upon update.

WMP 11 audio does not work-I waited for 5 minutes.
WMP 11 playlists does work but very slow access.

I have my CDs as ripped WMA lossels. There are over 1000 ripped ablums.

I will check pictures tonight.

Just as another data point, I don't see any change with 0x17E as far as Media Share goes. It works as it did prior to the update. Just using WMP-11 on a WinXP home machine, wireless laptop to wireless access point on the network. I'm listening to material now and it seems the same. I'll do some more playing around and report results in a separate thread, as this one is for issues.

[acomire]

Just as another data point, I don't see any change with 0x17E as far as Media Share goes. It works as it did prior to the update.

Really? The entire interface changed when clicking on Music & Photos on mine. Also the latency is absolutely mind blowing..... And it now has the words Beta stamped all over it.

Am I looking at something else?

AJ

[judson_west]

Tversity did not work upon update.

WMP 11 audio does not work-I waited for 5 minutes.
WMP 11 playlists does work but very slow access.

I have my CDs as ripped WMA lossels. There are over 1000 ripped ablums.

I will check pictures tonight.
I had the same issue. I had to change the settings in TVersity to detect the HR20 specifically and not AUTO DETECT. This then allowed the HR20 to see the PC.

The problem I have now is that the HR20 does not honor the subdirectories in my photos. I have no photos in the root of my photos but the HR20 wants to put all of my 6000 photos in to some sort of thumbnail display. Even the thumbnails are not smaller images of the pictures rather a corner snip of the picture.

[Kansas Zephyr]

I was updated overnight last night to 0x17E.

My OTA was screwed up, channels that were selected were removed, and others that I removed were selected. I'm in the Wichita/Hutchinson, KS DMA.

Fortunately, I went into antenna setup and selected "initial setup". After having all of the channels selected I chose "done" and exited the menu.

I then went back into antenna setup and removed the channels I can't get and choose "done" and exited the menu.

It's working properly, now.

I had to do this after I was updated to 0x168, too.

[Mixer]

Received update overnight. Didn't have a lot of tiem to play with it but of course I checked MediaShare right away and as I was dreading it is slow as ever. Please give me my old media player back!!!!!!

[finaldiet]

Still do not have CID with this update. I guess I'll have to write it off. Cannot get channel 7-1 here in chicago area. Lost it at 168 update. All other OTA channels come in great with meter readings between 80-100. Have tried resetting channels, no luck. Both HR 700's do not pick it up(7-1). Strange.:(

[jamieh1]

Got the new update and they updated the HR20-700 logos for the 2nd time since the release.
Heres the ones Ive noticed. changes or added

The CW (color changed from green to white)
Showtime HD (color)
ESPN2HD (color)
ESPNHD (color)
TNT HD (color)
101 (color)
Style
Court tv (color)
ion
TCM (look)
Chiller
Discovery Times (color)
GAC (color)
MTV (color from red to white)
WorldLink
TMC
VS
Nascar Hotpass

[beestea]

The Media Share interface for music is now way more usable as they have expanded it to take up the whole screen and you can actually tell what song you are clicking on because it displays the whole file name as well as the ID3 tag info.

So far its MUCH better (I am running it with TVersity).

Does anyone know after you select a song if there is a way to go back to the folder list without having to go back through all of the "music/photos" / "my computer" / computer name / my folders / etc etc etc...

If i am already using the media share I wanted to be able to hit "list" or one of the other buttons to go back to the folder I was playing the current song from.

Other than that the interface and functionality are much better so far for me.

[AFH]

I rec'd the update this morning. I tried to play my music through Media Share and there are "Xs" next to each song as well as 0:00 being displayed for minutes next to each song. I press play on a song and nothing happens. I'm using Tveristy and I even set Tversity to detect the HR20 instead of Autodect and there are still "Xs" next to each song.

As of last week, I was able to play the music thru the HR20 from my PC and now with this update I can't.

[beestea]

I rec'd the update this morning. I tried to play my music through Media Share and there are "Xs" next to each song as well as 0:00 being displayed for minutes next to each song. I press play on a song and nothing happens. I'm using Tveristy and I even set Tversity to detect the HR20 instead of Autodect and there are still "Xs" next to each song.

As of last week, I was able to play the music thru the HR20 from my PC and now with this update I can't.

It should work (mine is working fine here) If nothing else works try uninstalling Tversity and downloading the latest version then reinstalling.

You also might want to try a reset of the HR20... its obviously still a buggy feature but definitely getting better.

[AFH]

It should work (mine is working fine here) If nothing else works try uninstalling Tversity and downloading the latest version then reinstalling.

You also might want to try a reset of the HR20... its obviously still a buggy feature but definitely getting better.

I do have the latest version of Tversity. I probably will reset the HR20. The stupid thing is that it worked for me before when I had software version 168. I didn't participate in the CEs so I perturbed at this. The music still plays on my Xbox 360. I just can't understand if this going backwards of sorts is intentional on Directv's part as far as MediaShare is concerned.

[BlueSnake]

Still do not have CID with this update. I guess I'll have to write it off. Cannot get channel 7-1 here in chicago area. Lost it at 168 update. All other OTA channels come in great with meter readings between 80-100. Have tried resetting channels, no luck. Both HR 700's do not pick it up(7-1). Strange.:(

CID has always worked great for me, but the last phone call we received, the notice came up that said to contact my phone company to subscribe to Caller ID. What's up with that?:confused:

Actually it seems to be working know. I'll keep an eye on it.

[blmoore]

HD Locals missing again, and a poorly timed reboot

Got 0x17E this morning at 4:30.

First, it decided to restart my recorder while it was suppose to be recording something, so I ended up with a partial.

Second, I got home this evening and found that I had lost HD locals again, just like in the 0x179 CE release, Denver DMA. I left it on the black screen where the channel was suppose to be, but went to check sat signals before I restarted. All looked OK there, but when I finished, the HD locals were working again. No restart required.

[JACKIEGAGA]

MPEG 4 in live TV rew picture freezes when you hit play it jumps back.

[byron]

one of my HR20s was stuck in the boot up step this morning (step 1 of 2)... the same one has some UI artifacts when going from a full screen menu/guide to live/recorded TV. kinda like a few blocks here and there are misplaced (mainly at the top of the screen).

[say-what]

image freezes during RW on mpeg-4 channels

[Drew2k]

I'm having audio issues when watching live TV. If I am caught up to live, I have a lot of audio drop outs, but if I replay, I can here the missing audio. It seems the audio is being captured, but when the buffer is caught up to live, it's occasionally not being output. My remedy is just to watch a few seconds behind live in the buffer.

Note: This has been on HD MPEG4 channels. I'll test some SD and MPEG2 HD channels later and report back if anything's different.

[mx6bfast]

I'm really enjoying the new media share with the much bigger screen and faster response time in the menu. Also the auto-correct when pressing play was a very missed feature from the HDTivo. Now all I need is DLB.

In the media share my pc now shows up 3 times. 2 of the entries it says there are no files. Is there a way to remove the other 2 entries? When I first setup networking it showed it 2 times, then only once. Now it's 3.

[skunkiechris]

I got the update forced at 4:47AM today. It completely wiped my recorded programs. This is the second forced update since I've had the HR20, and the second time that it wiped my programs. GRRRRrrrrr! :mad: I've also participated in each CE and never had this issue.

Have tried restarting and my playlist has not come back. :(

[reweiss]

I went to 0x17e this morning (I was at 0x17d previously). My guide and "system setup" screens got messed up this evening. It was working fine all day, but tonight the top 1/3 of the screen background is all gray and the fonts look really poor. I never saw this before.

I will reboot after the baseball game and see if that fixes the problem.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

[big_novak]

Super-crop is mostly gone, but still appears momentarily in trickplay.

My biggest problem is constant AUDIO DROPOUTS over HDMI in both SD and HD programming while watching LIVE, UNBUFFERED TV. What gives? Why can't I simply watch programs now without the audio dropping? This happens randomly - audio drops out for 1-2 seconds while watching live TV, then, if the program is rewound 10 seconds or so, I find the audio was successfully recorded by the buffer and does not drop out in trickplay.

Also while watching a live SD signal today and recording a separate SD signal, my HR20-700 completely locked-up. Unresponsive to the remote and front control panel. Had to RBR.

I would rather have a DVR that functions successfully as a receiver and DVR than have DTV focus on creating some Media Server that I don't use. The sting of dissatisfaction is particularly acute this time, as I did not choose to DL 0x17E.

[Pakratt]

Received 17e the other day and everything seemed to work ok. Today when I powered up, I did not get anything on my TV Screen. Tried several times but no luck. I hit Menu on the remote and I got the Menu items on the left side of the screen but nothing else. I then used "Reset" to reboot and and this returned the picture and sound. Hasn't happened again so far.

[Cobra]

received the national release early this morning, I am getting guide tearing when scrolling, and watching orange county choppers, getting video breakup

[Kentstater]

Audio drop outs in both Mpeg4 local HD and OTA HD

[Monty23]

Audio drop outs in both Mpeg4 local HD and OTA HD

+1

[Stuart Sweet]

Pushing play to come out of trickplay generally leaves a single frame on the screen for approximately 1 second. That's not the issue here. The issue here is, when that frame has a person's face on it, about the first 1/2 second, the face changes color to teal green. The rest of the colors are fine, just the fleshtones are effected.

I had this issue several times watching programs recorded under (CE software version) 0x17d.

Specifically watching Law and Order recorded on KNBC-MPEG4 and The Next Best Thing recorded on KABC-MPEG4.

Mrs. Shadow didn't see it and I couldn't reproduce it on command.

[Stuart Sweet]

After watching a recording, exited to live TV - totally live, on KNBC-MPEG4 at approximately 7:45PM PDT. Went to rewind to get back to 7:00PM. The image froze for approximately 3 seconds and then began to rewind normally.

[Stuart Sweet]

So far no sign of the super crop bug. I remain vigilant.

[Tom M]

When deleting items from the ToDo list the list sometimes reverts back to the first page and no cursor is displayed after the entry is deleted. Needless to say this is very annoying when the entry being deleted is on the 9th or 10th page and it is necessary to then scroll forward through the list multiple times.

This problem has existed for several releases and may have been in existence for quite a long time.

[Cyrus]

I got the update forced at 4:47AM today. It completely wiped my recorded programs.

Are you using internal disk or eSATA? Is it HR20-700 or HR20-100?

[reweiss]

I went to 0x17e this morning (I was at 0x17d previously). My guide and "system setup" screens got messed up this evening. It was working fine all day, but tonight the top 1/3 of the screen background is all gray and the fonts look really poor. I never saw this before.

I will reboot after the baseball game and see if that fixes the problem.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?


The reboot fixed the problem.

[djfrankie]

Got the new software, yesterday morning. Haven't noticed any issues, yet!

Frank

[mridan]

Caller ID still not working,works fine on daughters HR20.

[golfnut-n-nh]

The reboot fixed the problem.

I had the same problem with the fuzzy fonts and the gray at the top. I will have to try a reboot this evening.

[techntrek]

On my List, when a group/folder is selected, the new yellow "tip" text is partially hidden under the live TV picture-in-menu. Specifically the last letter on the first line (I think its the last letter of "press" if I remember right).

[jmschnur]

I will also post this on the NR 100 thread when it starts.

When both my 100 and 700 are attached to the network and I try media share with the 100, the 100 freezes and requires an RBR. This is solved by disconnecting the 100 from the network. Both firmware's are 17E.

With the 100 off the network all is fine on both machines and media share is mostly functional (but slow) on the 700.

[Steady Teddy]

I dunno if it had to do with the network but I saw a TON of video dropouts watching ESPN HD yesterday. I assume this isn't software related?

And is there a link with directions on how to disable FF correction?

[kmkraft_1974]

I'm having audio issues when watching live TV. If I am caught up to live, I have a lot of audio drop outs, but if I replay, I can here the missing audio. It seems the audio is being captured, but when the buffer is caught up to live, it's occasionally not being output. My remedy is just to watch a few seconds behind live in the buffer.

Note: This has been on HD MPEG4 channels. I'll test some SD and MPEG2 HD channels later and report back if anything's different.

having the exact same issue. MPEG4 audio issues, but watching a few seconds behind live gives me steady audio.

[stiffi]

I started noticing constant "stutters" on all my channels yesterday. I haven't had a chance to check if I have the new software, but I did notice my guide has changed. Now, when I press the guide button, it goes right to the full guide. If I press it twice, it goes to the menu list of show categories. This used to be reversed.

Anyway, on all my channels, every so often, I get a 1/2 second freeze, then both audio and video stutter.

Is this related to the software release?

[Rubbernecker]

I got the update forced at 4:47AM today. It completely wiped my recorded programs. This is the second forced update since I've had the HR20, and the second time that it wiped my programs. GRRRRrrrrr! :mad: I've also participated in each CE and never had this issue.

Have tried restarting and my playlist has not come back. :(

Same here... this thing is really starting to frustrate me...

when I am changing channels the channel banner goes all different sizes before it comes up the correct size and the channel comes in... is this a native on thing?

[Steve Robertson]

I have native on and so far no problems

[ShiningBengal]

I have two HR20-100S machines and both downloaded the 0x17E update this morning. The only issue I have had is that initially, when watching an MPEG4 channel, I had video but no audio. When I switched to the corresponding OTA channel, the video and audio were normal.

I switched back to the MPEG4 channel a few minutes later and the audio was there.

To Do list and Play lists are intact.

No other issues so far.

[jba115]

This started two CE's ago and persists with regularity. Only fix is to turn on "pillar box." Very annoying. All else seems ok, including autocorrect. Kept my "Active" settings.

[lucky13]

National Release DLed automatically early Tues. AM to my 2 HR20s (one minute apart, according to the info screen).

Haven't had time to play with it much, but the EI search is still screwed up.

A check this morning did now show tonight's EI Mets-Pirates game on the search list, but did show Thursday's game. Search correctly shows the game on both RSNs.

Despite missing from the search list, the missing game still appears in my To Do list.

This glitch has been present for several months. Probably all season, but I didn't start the search until May.

[ShiningBengal]

I have two HR20-100S machines and both downloaded the 0x17E update this morning. The only issue I have had is that initially, when watching an MPEG4 channel, I had video but no audio. When I switched to the corresponding OTA channel, the video and audio were normal.

I switched back to the MPEG4 channel a few minutes later and the audio was there.

To Do list and Play lists are intact.

No other issues so far.

Spoke too soon! 2nd HR20-100S still had the Playlist intact, and the space indicator said they were there. However, when I tried to play anything from the list, I immediately got the dialog box asking me if I want to keep the program. When I chose "Keep" it took me back to the list.

In other words, the recordings were there, but I couldn't access them.

Doing a RBR restored normal operation. Whew! :)

[Stuart Sweet]

The super crop bug showed up temporarily on channel 229 HGTV this morning watching a letterboxed commercial at 7:48am PDT. It was there for about 3 seconds and then fixed itself.

I was using the slingbox to check something else on my home HR20 and tested it on a whim.

[pannetron]

Audio Dropouts and Audio/Video out of synch. Went back in the live tv buffer (local mpeg4 station), and have had continuous serious audio/video synch issues, and some audio dropout issues. Have not seen this for a number of CE's, but it is sure bad now. When I first turned the HR20 on this morning (after getting the update automatically) I had no buffer. Since then I have a buffer, but the synch issues is major (perhaps 5 full seconds of difference). Have not yet changed channels, which I expect will correct. Have backed up in the buffer, skipped back, skipped forward, - things that have in the past corrected the synch problem.

Okay, dumped the buffer (changed channels) and am back in synch.

Carl

I found, quite by accident, that pressing the "jump back" button a few times so I'm watching a channel delayed by several seconds seems to eliminate the audio dropouts I experience on one of my local station feeds. YMMV.

[judson_west]

I'm really enjoying the new media share with the much bigger screen and faster response time in the menu. Also the auto-correct when pressing play was a very missed feature from the HDTivo. Now all I need is DLB.

In the media share my pc now shows up 3 times. 2 of the entries it says there are no files. Is there a way to remove the other 2 entries? When I first setup networking it showed it 2 times, then only once. Now it's 3.
I had the same issue. I had to reboot to fix it. It hasn't reappeared since.

[gio12]

HR20-700. Whether I am using Tveristy or WMP11. IT can lock-up the unit, take 2-3 in to load pics and the thumbnails are all screwed up. It was working PERFECT before the 17e upgrade. :mad: :(

[judson_west]

I have the same issue with pictures. The thumbnails appear to show only the upper left corner of the pictures. It also seems to be ignoring the folders I have pictures stored in.

[Sander]

Media Play with TVersity was working reasonably well until 17d. 17e has not fixed the problem.

Faulty thumbnails, lockups, music won't play. A total disaster. WMP11 has never shown the HR20, Twonkey and TVersity did work before 17d. Never, however, has it worked as well as TiVo2's version.

This problem needs addressing if this feature is ever to go fully mainstream.

[ram4784]

Got 17E national release several days ago....

First morning, all I had was local off air channels. When tuning to satellite, said not available. Guide only had off airs also.

Reset thru gui, satellite channels started populating slowly, took about an hour for all to come on line, either by tuning or in the guide.

Several days later now, and there is nothing in the to-do list although prioritizer is populated and it is recording shows listed in the prioritizer.

Any fixes out there???????

[Drew2k]

I'm loving FFW Correction on MPEG2, but so far I'm not seeing much FFW Correction on MPEG4. It's "kind of" there, in that I jump back some, but it doesn't compare to how FFW Correction works on MPEG2, where I seem to jump back the "perfect" distance to account for when I pressed PLAY while fast-forwarding.

[reweiss]

I went to 0x17e this morning (I was at 0x17d previously). My guide and "system setup" screens got messed up this evening. It was working fine all day, but tonight the top 1/3 of the screen background is all gray and the fonts look really poor. I never saw this before.

I will reboot after the baseball game and see if that fixes the problem.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?


The problem is back again tonight. I addition, I has a show whose audio was completely out of sync (even after the reboot) and also had parts where both the picture and audio froze for mionutes at a time. This has been the only update where I have had problems like this. I think it has been the worst update I've seen and it's getting frustrating.

[reweiss]

I had the same problem with the fuzzy fonts and the gray at the top. I will have to try a reboot this evening.

Yeah, I rebooted it last night but it came back again today.

[MasMic]

I went to 0x17e this morning (I was at 0x17d previously). My guide and "system setup" screens got messed up this evening. It was working fine all day, but tonight the top 1/3 of the screen background is all gray and the fonts look really poor. I never saw this before.

I will reboot after the baseball game and see if that fixes the problem.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

I had the same problem a few minutes ago and did a reset which "fixed" it. I will try to replicate, but I really have no idea what I might have done that may have caused it.

[reweiss]

I had the same problem a few minutes ago and did a reset which "fixed" it. I will try to replicate, but I really have no idea what I might have done that may have caused it.

Although after 2 days I cannot say this is a pattern just yet. However, the guide problem seems to have appeared around 8pm both times (even though I had just rebooted my system at 7:30pm).

You are the 3rd person that has said they had this problem. I wonder how widespread this gray/guide issue is.

[jdherman]

Does this upgrade apply to the HR20-100 as well?

MY HR20-100 got this download and so the discussion seems to apply just fine. I also have an HR20-700 and it recieved the update within minute of my 100. I live in the Denver, CO area.

[jdherman]

Can someone give the quick skinny on the release approach D* uses between the 700's and the 100's? I've only been here a short while, but it seems 700's get all the updates where the 100's only get them few and far between. Is there a reason behind this? Why can't both be at the same level at the same time, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be any real diffrence between the boxes?
I've got one of each and the updates seem to come out pretty close to each other. The first I experienced the time difference was a few days. For this last release, they were simultaneously updated.

[shendley]

I'm not sure if this is a problem with the latest software. I didn't see it at first when I had the new software, but it has just appeared today, a couple of days since receiving the new software this weekend:

Media Sharing over my wireless network stops working when my cordless phone is in operation. Once I was able to get it back by Fast Fowarding to the next randomized track. Another time that didn't work and I had to restart it.

[alexcohen]

Oh Boy my first update!!!

HR-20-100, no problems. I'm confused though about some of the notes. Could someone please explain some or all of the following:


Improved
Manual recording (improvements to prioritizer functions and scheduler) Stability

Conflict resolution when todo list item removed

Key press robustness (against key bounce)

Screen format options in Video TAB according to TV ratio settings: Now "Letterbox" for 4:3 and "Pillar Box" for 16:9

HDMI Updates (I know what this is, but what's better)

Fast Forward correction to compensate user response time when pressing PLAY key (Is this like the TIVO?)

[Monty23]

Turned on the TV after work tonight. I always have it set to record the NBC Evening News. Selected List and it hadn't recorded. I went to look at History and the screen turned plain blue except for the live TV preview window which was working. Unit locked up completely. No keys would do anything. Had to do RBR. I then went to History again and looked why it hadn't recorded and it just said "partial".

Also, still getting the audio dropouts and recordings ending about 30 seconds early.

[1953]

Ok, don't flame me. It's late and I'm just wanting an answer to what to you may think is a stuipd question.

Is a summary available outlining the changes made by this weeks HR20-700 update?

[texasbrit]

Saw the screen saver bug for the first time ever (and I have had this HR20 since late September 2006).
Still freezing on replay on MPEG-4
Autocorrect on MPEG-2 still OK on FF1 and FF2, not enough on FF3, too much on FF4
Autocorrect on MPEG-4 still not working properly.

[Drew2k]

Ok, don't flame me. It's late and I'm just wanting an answer to what to you may think is a stuipd question.

Is a summary available outlining the changes made by this weeks HR20-700 update?No flames. :)

Just go to post 1 of this thread and follow the link to the Release Notes.

[Cedem]

I'm loving FFW Correction on MPEG2, but so far I'm not seeing much FFW Correction on MPEG4. It's "kind of" there, in that I jump back some, but it doesn't compare to how FFW Correction works on MPEG2, where I seem to jump back the "perfect" distance to account for when I pressed PLAY while fast-forwarding.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I just didn't think the correction worked at all, not realizing that the effect would be different on mpeg4 vs. mpeg2. Just checked an mpeg2 recording and you're right, it does actually work right there. Hopefully it's something that can be adjusted in the future.

[inkahauts]

Have now had two instances that may be a bug rather than signal anomily as I first thought. Here it goes...

Recordings stop at about 1 hour and 12 mins, from an OTA source.

Recoring Dodger game on KCAL 9-1 in Los Angeles. Recording stopped after 1 hour and 12 mins. There was no breaking up of signal or audio prior to recording stopping.

I had this problem once before last week, ( yes I was on a ce, and it happened around 1:14 min into recording ) and I just figuered I must have lost signal, but twice now in a week is suspect. I have never had a bad signal on KCAL, and never get drop outs when I'm watching a recording or live, so I am unsure what might have caused this. (the reason given for the short recording was loss of signal)

Has anyone else had this issue? How long does a signal have to go weak before the HR20 will consider a signal lost and hault recording. In the past on other OTA digital channels, when a signal has gone weak for a few moments, the unit kept recording, so I am at a lost....

[kenn157]

One of my units became unresponsive to either remote control or front panel. The RED light came on for a few seconds, lets say about 15 seconds then went out. Still no response. All the while I had a picture (NESNHD) I then RBR and after it came up it was ok. What's the red light mean? I thought thats when its reformatting the hard drive.

[russelle777]

Got the update day before yesterday, that night one channel was having problems (drop outs of audio and video/ freezing) (local lil), switched to the same channel OTA, was fine. Recorded a program on Showtime2, next day it had the same problems as the lil. Wife did a menu reset and the show played back fine after that.

[Steve Robertson]

I have had more problems with audio dropout since the upgrade myself. I guess maybe I will try a reset

[Steady Teddy]

So am I the only one seeing frequent video dropouts? It sure wasn't happening before this update. I haven't noticed audio dropouts yet.

[Steve Robertson]

So am I the only one seeing frequent video dropouts? It sure wasn't happening before this update. I haven't noticed audio dropouts yet.

I have only noticed them on ESPN but then again I haven't watched a lot of other channels as we watch the Red Sox every night

[1953]

No flames. :)

Just go to post 1 of this thread and follow the link to the Release Notes.

Thank you very much.

[texasbrit]

I have only noticed them on ESPN but then again I haven't watched a lot of other channels as we watch the Red Sox every night

Dropouts on ESPN have been happening for a while, nothing to do with the latest update.

[gvatty]

I haven't been able to access my interactive features since the update. I reset my receiver twice. Once by the menu and once by unplugging the unit.

[judson_west]

I had the same issue. I had to reboot to fix it. It hasn't reappeared since.
I guess I spoke too soon. I looked at Music&Photos last night and my PC was listed over 10 times. Only the first entry was good. I guess I will have to reboot the HR20 AGAIN to clear it up.

[greenwave]

FF/Trickplay FAILURE

HR20-700 was recording "So You Think You Can Dance" on FOX last night and the wife was watching live. She paused the program for 5 min. and then resumed play, and apparently tried to FF through commercials but could not. She called me, I tested it, RW and JumpBack all worked fine, but could only FF up to the point at which I had started RW or JumpBack, and no further. The show continued to play fine, I just couldn't get it to FFW. Each time I tried I would get the audio "bump" for an improper remote command.

[jahgreen]

Prior to this release, I had never seen the "Please wait" message in the lower right with the blue progress bar. Now I see it on almost every channel change.

Not a big deal, just wondering about the reason for the change in behavior.

[Justinto]

What happened to the To Do list? After the update, the TO DO list disappeared. The history is there, the prioritizer has all of the shows listed, and the summary shows shows in the to do list, but the To Do list has not repopulated.

[packfan909]

While recording an episode of "Nothing But Trailers" on HDnet, the HR20 changed the channel to Game Lounge without any input by myself. Was also recording another program at the same time.

Resolution, hit previous channel number. HR20 asked to stop a recording and I stopped ...Trailers. Went back the channel I was watching before ...Trailers was recording. That was ESPNews.

Everything back to normal.

pf

[4DThinker]

Prior to this release, my music worked fine. After this "update", it finds my music, but can not play any of it. I have a VISTA Home Premium PC networked with all my music on it and media player 11.0 set to share with the HR20.

I have reset it. No difference.

[mikeny]

I'm behind live TV, watching the recording from the PlayList..i(n progress). It's YES HD, mpeg-4; the Yankee game vs. the Royals. There is substantial, frequent macroblcoking/pixellation following my FFWD, and Slip commands.

[Sander]

Saw the screen saver bug for the first time ever (and I have had this HR20 since late September 2006).


First time for screensaver bug here as well. Had just restarted system after installing a UPS. Started watching DiscoveryHD and while watching screensaver came on with sound still on. Hit select and screensaver disappeared only to reappear again in a few minutes.

Repeated two more times. Finally corrected problem by hitting the Pause button and then the forward button. Has not occurred since.

[MizzouTiger]

Have noticed 2 issues so far:

1. Getting frequent audio dropouts on both MPEG4 and SD channels. Very annoying.

2. In Music & Photos, when I select "My Computers", my laptop computer is listed 20 time while my desktop computer is listed only once.

[MasMic]

Although after 2 days I cannot say this is a pattern just yet. However, the guide problem seems to have appeared around 8pm both times (even though I had just rebooted my system at 7:30pm).

You are the 3rd person that has said they had this problem. I wonder how widespread this gray/guide issue is.

I noticed you're a Yankee fan. Well the problem occurred to me when I was watching the Yankees/Royals game on one of the MLB channels (Royals broadcast - Why I don't get the YES or HD station when I pay extra for it, I'll never understand) I believe. A really poor quality picture I'll add. Is it the same case with you? I don't understand how watching a certain channel would mess up the fonts and background color on the guide / menu but stranger things have happened.

[houskamp]

Anyone else having trouble with VHF high channels? For some reason my channel 8 (7) here went from 90% to 20% over the last few days on both my HR20s.. I also have a 3 (2) OTA and it is fine (in the same antenna farm)... I don't have a atsc tuner in my tv to check..
This is WOODTV-DT out of Grand Rapids MI..

[4DThinker]

Prior to this release, my music worked fine. After this "update", it finds my music, but can not play any of it. I have a VISTA Home Premium PC networked with all my music on it and media player 11.0 set to share with the HR20. I have reset it. No difference.

OK, solved this one. For some reason my PC decided my Pinnacle HDTV tuner was a public network, and for security reasons it had disabled media shariing. So here's another reason to avoid VISTA, and now that I've disabled that "public" network my music is playing fine through my HR20s.

[Vinny]

I'm behind live TV, watching the recording from the PlayList..i(n progress). It's YES HD, mpeg-4; the Yankee game vs. the Royals. There is substantial, frequent macroblcoking/pixellation following my FFWD, and Slip commands.

I have noticed this over the past few days, as well. Same station (YESH, MPEG4) same day and same time.

[hells_bells]

Have noticed 2 issues so far:

1. Getting frequent audio dropouts on both MPEG4 and SD channels. Very annoying.

2. In Music & Photos, when I select "My Computers", my laptop computer is listed 20 time while my desktop computer is listed only once.

I use Vista with TVersity and the PC only show up once. Music plays fine but under the pictures the thumbnails seem to really slow (or stop) the HR20.

Wish there was a way to turn off the picture thumbnails.

[dhurt]

I lost caller ID with the latest update. I received the national update and did not force this one. I will reset and see if it returns.

[loudo]

I had the same as many others, multiple computers listed from my network, on the My Computers list of "Music & Photos". A reboot of the system brought it back to normal, showing one entry for each computer currently on.

[kenn157]

I had the same as many others, multiple computers listed from my network, on the My Computers list of "Music & Photos". A reboot of the system brought it back to normal, showing one entry for each computer currently on.

So does mine but it comes back. I dont like it.

[Mixer]

Just had my first ever recording that could not be watched using all trickplay features. If using 30 sec skip it would make the recording freeze. When using anything faster then 1x fwd the do you want to keep or delete message pops up.

Wooof!

[HDTVsportsfan]

I'm not sure where to put this. I wouldn't classify this as a software issue nor do I feel it needs a seperate thread. But in an effort to report any hiccups....

I came home this evening, went downstairs, hit the power button on the HR20......... No lights and no display...however the Fan and HDD was spining. So it was running to a certain degree. a RBR did not work.

I had to pull the plug. All is well now after power cycling.

[slyfox7]

I have had the same problem (having to unplug the unit and plug it back in) for the past two days. This issue started with the automated download of 17E.

[ram4784]

What happened to the To Do list? After the update, the TO DO list disappeared. The history is there, the prioritizer has all of the shows listed, and the summary shows shows in the to do list, but the To Do list has not repopulated.

I have the same problem and have reported it. It doesn't seem that anybody has an answer. RBR twice hasn't helped. Hopefully this will be fixed on the next CE.

[gully_foyle]

I got the update forced at 4:47AM today. It completely wiped my recorded programs. This is the second forced update since I've had the HR20, and the second time that it wiped my programs. GRRRRrrrrr! :mad: I've also participated in each CE and never had this issue.

Have tried restarting and my playlist has not come back. :(

Hmmm ... maybe forcing a national release like that is a problem.

[missingtivo]

So far, my DVR is 5 for 5 recording shows that were on the to-do list!

Did they fix something with the latest couple of releases? (I was a few weeks out of
date with CE's).

I also like seeing the date/time of the upgrade in the history.... Very nice addition.

[HouseBowlrz]

I had fallen asleep watching the Marlins-Giants game on ESPN and woke up to a frozen screen with a picture reminiscent of when we get heavy cloud cover. I was able to make out that it happened in the top of the 6th inning. :nono2:

So out came the network connection (which I had restored on Monday the 23rd) and did a RBR and it came back up.


:rolleyes:

[reweiss]

I noticed you're a Yankee fan. Well the problem occurred to me when I was watching the Yankees/Royals game on one of the MLB channels (Royals broadcast - Why I don't get the YES or HD station when I pay extra for it, I'll never understand) I believe. A really poor quality picture I'll add. Is it the same case with you? I don't understand how watching a certain channel would mess up the fonts and background color on the guide / menu but stranger things have happened.

I don't believe it has naything to do with the Royals lousy resolution of their broadcast (and YES, I agree it is horrible... probably the worst resolution of any sports network).

[afulkerson]

Turned on the system this morning and had a BLACK screen with no audio. The menu works but no channel displays anythingnot even the OTA channels. Restarted the HR20 and everything is back to working. This is the third time this has happened at this code level.

[mtherien]

Ever since I got the 0x17e upgrade on 7/25, my local FOX station's HD programming is out of sync. Standard Definition programming is fine. All of my other local HD channels are in sync. I tried a reboot with little success.

I can't imagine this is the local station's problem since everything was fine before the upgrade. My HR20-600 does not have this problem.

Any suggestions on getting this fixed? I've had to start watching these programs in SD !

[SoCool]

I have had to boot my HR-20 700 several times to correct a No Video, No Audio situation. I am always in the HD channels and when switching channels, I have the guide info only. I can switch to any channel, still nothing. The only thing that will correct the problem is a reboot through the menu. I am connected by HDMI to the display. This problem has never ocurred with the last national release. It is getting to be very annoying to say the least. It is only happening with one of my units btw.:(

[BAKJO]

1. Receiver Model: HR20-700
2. Method: RBR
3. Date/Time: 7-28-07 0510 am CDT
4. HR20 is Networked: NO
5. Software Version: 0x17E
6. Reason for RBR: While in guide selected channel 98 schedule, it was showing upcoming: NGC HD Sneak peek 42 which was to show on 7/30 4:00a - 4:45a. I accidently pushed select. The screen went black, remote would not work and the only button on front panel that would work was power. RBR Restored full function.

[Stuart Sweet]

Super crop bug is back, as bad as ever. Nothing new to report, but it's not getting better either.

[Stuart Sweet]

Screen saver seems a bit jerkier than I've seen before as I look at it. Sorry that's about all the detail I've got.

[litzdog911]

First problem with 0x17E this afternoon ....

No audio/video on any channel, just black screen. Menus came up fine. Tried playing back several recordings and all immediately brought up "Keep or Delete" message.

Menu reset solved the problem.

[Stuart Sweet]

As in the most recent CE's, the Play button doesn't always respond on the first push. Whether it's with RC34 remote or HR20 I can aim the remote so that FF works and Play doesn't.

[packfan909]

While recording an episode of "Nothing But Trailers" on HDnet, the HR20 changed the channel to Game Lounge without any input by myself. Was also recording another program at the same time.

Resolution, hit previous channel number. HR20 asked to stop a recording and I stopped ...Trailers. Went back the channel I was watching before ...Trailers was recording. That was ESPNews.

Everything back to normal.

pf

Continuing to have issues with the same receiver. Inadvertent channel changes, no mention of the channel changed to when pressing info. Just the program that was on before. Recording started with black screen and about three minutes in the video started. Second HR20 not having the same issues or just not noticing them.

pf

[finaldiet]

Turned on receiver yesterday and no tuner 110. Checked other receiver and it shows no 110. Reset both to no avail. Pulled power plugs on both, still nothing. Called DTV and tech will be out today. Strange that both receivers have lost tuner 110. Never had any problems till 17e install.

[ShiningBengal]

Turned on receiver yesterday and no tuner 110. Checked other receiver and it shows no 110. Reset both to no avail. Pulled power plugs on both, still nothing. Called DTV and tech will be out today. Strange that both receivers have lost tuner 110. Never had any problems till 17e install.

If you have a problem with the LNB for 110 that would cause the problem.

[finaldiet]

If you have a problem with the LNB for 110 that would cause the problem.

Thanks. I'll find out today. I also believe that's what the problem is, since both receivers show the same. Wonder if thats why I havn't been able to get 7-1, which should be an easy OTA channel to get. All other OTA channels come in ok.

[ShiningBengal]

Thanks. I'll find out today. I also believe that's what the problem is, since both receivers show the same. Wonder if thats why I havn't been able to get 7-1, which should be an easy OTA channel to get. All other OTA channels come in ok.

Could also be one of the cables that leads from the LNB to the internal multiswitch (the one in the LNB head), the connectors, or the internal multiswitch itself. I'd also check ALL of the connectors on the Zimwell multiswitch.

[jselinger24]

Audio/ Video not in sync on most of the HD channels.

Video dropout on ESPN HD & ESPN2HD.

Most occurences/ issues I have had in months.

(Occuring on both of my units)

[RobertE]

Issue: Living room -700 refuses to delete items in the prioritizer with (-) (-).

Have tried both RF & IR modes. Have restarted the receiver. No luck on removing series links.