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iahawks550
09-20-07, 01:58 PM
Not looking for any inside info, but I was curious about how these things work and why they seem to use Dish Network's Dish?

I'm guessing this is illegal on some terms?
Earl Bonovich
09-20-07, 02:01 PM
Yes.

When Referring FTA, and DishNetwork program... you are corssing into topics that are on the opposite side of the legality debate.
James Long
09-20-07, 02:10 PM
There are several channels on the E* system that are unscrambled. Those would be the only ones that one could legitimately expect to receive via a FTA system.

If you are talking about FTA or E* receivers that have been modified to receive E*'s scrambled subscription channels then that's way out of bounds for DBSTalk.

We do have a special forum for discussing legit FTA ... feel free to check it out!
Earl Bonovich
09-20-07, 02:17 PM
There are several channels on the E* system that are unscrambled. Those would be the only ones that one could legitimately expect to receive via a FTA system.

If you are talking about FTA or E* receivers that have been modified to receive E*'s scrambled subscription channels then that's way out of bounds for DBSTalk.

We do have a special forum for discussing legit FTA ... feel free to check it out!

Thank you for the correction...
boba
09-20-07, 02:35 PM
Earl/James who is going to lock this before it gets going?
koji68
09-20-07, 03:20 PM
Dish itself has already explained the connection. Some FTA receivers can be easily modified to illegally receive Dish Network programing for free. Dish thinks that the manufacturer is doing this on purpose and they are suing them. More in the thread bellow:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92752
James Long
09-20-07, 03:48 PM
And that's the kind of "FTA" that really ticks off those who enjoy real FTA programming. FTA shouldn't be considered a synonym for signal theft. There are many legitimate channels to watch via a FTA system. It's the systems where people hack to steal channels they are not paying for that are the problem.

As a site, we encourage people to subscribe to E* and D* programming and if they choose not subscribe that is fine ... as long as they are not trying to watch the content they have decided not to pay for.
iahawks550
09-21-07, 08:32 AM
Those links helped. I was more curious about why they used Dish's dish for legitimate FTA.

I also found a list of the "real" FTA channels.

Thanks for the info.
James Long
09-21-07, 08:48 AM
E*'s dishes are cheap ... although to get the most out of FTA you need a better dish and different LNBs to see the FSS ku band instead of the DBS ku band (or get a C band system).
kenglish
09-22-07, 09:29 AM
One thing..."NASA Select".
FTA Michael
09-22-07, 09:59 AM
Four things (at three locations) - NASA Select, Gol TV, Angel One, and Ohio PBS station WOUB.

Along with some (sometimes?) audio channels, a Dish Network dish makes a cheap supplement to an existing FTA system, but it's very limited as the sole dish for a legitimate FTA receiver.