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Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Carl Spock

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    Attacked? :eek2:

    Here was my post:

    "So what is your point, RunnerFL? Outside of disagreeing with some of the posts here, and stating that the Eskimos in Alaska are indigenous, I don't see your position. How and when do you think human beings came to North America?"

    I asked you what your opinion was.
     
  2. dpeters11

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    My misunderstanding.
     
  3. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Yup

    Yup, I saw it...

    Is what one starts out with when launching an attack.

    You picked up on a single post in a conversation I was having with an un-educated person where I was trying to educate them and you blasted me.
     
  4. Carl Spock

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    You're incredibly thin skinned.

    That's an attack.
     
  5. fluffybear

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    My guess, Christopher Columbus gets the credit and forget everything else for now. Some High School teacher in 8 or so years will have the kids research all the crap they were fed in grade school and discover the truth..
     
  6. dpeters11

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    Even then it's sometimes debatable whether you get the truth. "History is written by the victors" type thing.
     
  7. AntAltMike

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    [youtube]EZEEbQ3hWmU[/youtube]

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  8. SayWhat?

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    History is written by the text book printers and the school boards.
     
  9. Stewart Vernon

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    If we're playing the semantic game... then arguably "America" was not discovered until after being named after Amerigo Vespucci...

    Now, if we're talking about who discovered "the land mass that ultimately became known as America"... that's a different conversation :)
     
  10. Carl Spock

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    If I had to pick one, I'd give the nod to Chris.

    The fact that my great grandfather was Christopher Columbus Johnson has nothing to do with my opinion. :grin:

    It's that Columbus was at the cusp of the curve. None of the other visitors/settlers to the Western Hemisphere changed history like Christopher Columbus. Nothing was the same after 1492.

    He certainly wasn't the first but he was definitely the most important discoverer of America.
     
  11. trh

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    The Texas Board of Education rewrite two years ago is a perfect example. NY Times article
     
  12. fluffybear

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    exactly!

    How many grade school history books tell you that Paul Revere never made that famous ride he is given credit for? or who Nikola Tesla is? or that while Jackie Robinson was the first African-american to play "Major League" baseball, he was not the first African-american to play "professional" baseball or that Ben Franklin did not actually discover electricity or that Peanut Butter was being enjoyed long before George Washington Carver defined the process of making it we know today.
     
  13. Laxguy

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    Well, CC was hugely important, but he never set foot on the Continental United States, nor Central nor South America! Hispaniola was where he landed.
     
  14. dpeters11

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    You could say history is written by the victors then further amended and interpreted by the textbook writers and school boards.
     
  15. dpeters11

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    Or say that Columbus was daring in not thinking he'd fall off the edge. I actually thought Revere did make that ride, though the lanterns were a signal to the town, and he was captured, but I thought he did start the ride, with others. As for Tesla, he certainly deserves a lot more attention, but at least it looks like his laboratory will be saved. They're approaching a million dollars with 38 days left in the campaign not including another 850,000 pledged.

    Part of the problem, at least up through high school, you have to pretty much pick and choose what history to teach. There's too much of it. You can take an entire class in college that only deals with a particular war, or narrower range of history in a particular country, but you still almost only hit the highlights.
     
  16. fluffybear

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    To be fair, Revere started the ride and was quickly captured with his counterparts. I'll add that Revere also supposedly told the British of what the colonists were up to. However, it was Dr. Samuel Prescott who made the daring escape and completed the ride.
     
  17. AntAltMike

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    Professor Andrew Sipowicz has pronounced on the subject:

    Sipowicz: "Hey pal, you know I'm trying to find some *******s before they murder another innocent family. It so happens these particular *******s happen to be black. Now, how do you want me to go about this, huh? Maybe I should start each question with, uh, you know, 'I'm sorry for the injustices the white man has inflicted on your race. but can you provide me any information?', or, 'I'm sorry your people are downtrodden for three hundred years, but did you discuss the layout of the Sloane house with any of your friends?' "

    Futrel: "Yeah, Do it like that"

    Sipowicz: "Yeah. Okay, all right, You know, I know that that great African-American George Washington Carver invented the peanut, but can you provide the names and addreses of these friends?"

    Futrel: "You know you're a racist scumbag."

    Sipowicz: "Ouch."
     
  18. Carl Spock

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    Details, details...

    Otherwise, you guys are killing me.

    Next you're going to tell me the Civil War wasn't fought to end slavery.

    On Apollo 13, nobody said the phrase, "Houston, we have a problem."

    There was no King Arthur.

    Julius Caeser didn't say, "Et tu, Brute?"

    Lana Turner wasn't discovered sitting on a stool at Schwab's Drug Store in Hollywood.

    My buddy, Johnny Appleseed, and I aren't listening to you anymore.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    You know...
    Spock was a fictional character :D
     
  20. djlong

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    fluffybear: Yes, Revere *did* spill his guts (figuratively) when the British colonel was pressing a gun to Revere's chest (threatening to do the gut-spilling literally). This is what Sarah Palin re-interpreted as Revere "warning the British" that they couldn't take the colonial's arms.

    Prescott and Dawes never got the credit they deserved because their names don't rhyme well when Longfellow wrote his famous poem.
     

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