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#1 ·
With the World Cup starting 6/11/10 we can talk about the games here. Go Italy
 
#52 ·
JACKIEGAGA said:
Germany is off with a good start
Germany gave a Australia a good old fashioned whooping
 
#53 ·
GrumpyBear said:
I get a little peeved sometimes, by posts or people who get to wrapped up with the if you aren't with us, your against us attitude. I not saying the 2 posts in question were meant that way, its just the way they came across.
Grumpy, first of all thanks much for serving our nation proudly man!! Yes, you're right; my post wasn't meant that way. In fact I wasn't specifically addressing you at all. I was replying to ******'s point AND talking about a number of people I've met in person who root for other countries but intentionally pretend as if the US team doesn't even exist.

Having said that: I only earnestly hope you (or any other US citizen similar to you) doesn't actively root for USA to lose, in the hypothetical case that USA plays against whatever team you've adopted.

camo said:
I tried watching a game them remembered I had to go watch some recently painted patio furniture dry.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks much for that information!
I made a note of it right here in my little black notebook.

Chandu said:
Go USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beat England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Not quite a victory, but will take it. As I had said before, a goal is a goal is a goal. An ugly goal counts as much as the most beautifully created goal. I feel lots of sympathy for poor Rob Green, but we should be on our way with this result.

Also, Park Ji Sung is fantastic! After USA, I'll be rooting for South Korea. Germany looked superb, but Australia were hardly a worthy opponent. In the last 4 years, comparing USA and Australia they seemed to have progressed and regressed respectively around equally. I don't think the A-League has been helping Australian national team much at all, as much as MLS has helped USA.
 
#54 ·
Chandu said:
BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!
Also, may the vuvuzelas just get banned in mid-tournament (as I've been hoping) or this guy starting article with crap information:

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Vuvuzelas-might-yet-be-banned-from-World-Cup?urn=sow,247947

And a vuvuzela documentary:

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/video/ssworldcup-19013964/what-is-that-buzz-at-the-world-cup-20287329

Gosh, I hate those things.

BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#61 ·
wilbur_the_goose said:
I'm boycotting the TV. I had planned to watch, but the horns make it unwatchable.

I have 2 brothers, one of whom plays soccer weekly, who are also boycotting.

BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!

(These things have zip to do with SA history)
That's truly a shame, that FIFA are making enemies worldwide with their short-sightedness, when in fact they need to be making more friends. Complaints have come into TV stations all over the world from England, Scotland, India, Australia, Germany, Japan, you name it.

The earlier proposal had been to allow vuvuzelas only in matches involving South Africa and ban them for all other matches. I can't imagine any fans for a match involving Netherlands vs. Denmark had planned to make a vuvuzela to be part of their game experience.
 
#64 ·
Although I think the vuvuzelas were a bad idea, old Sepp knows in 4 years the whole world will be lining his pockets in Rio.

Since all the TV and sponsorship contracts have been paid and FIFA's coffers are filled, he's better off leaving South Africa with the country still in his pocket as well.

Hypocritically, it was Danny Jordaan, SA's chief organiser, who did a 180 on the horns.

After the Confederations' Cup last year, he was the biggest big mouth spewing the importance of exhibiting African culture.

After 2 days of the World Cup, he was the one who said they might go.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/795839/ce/uk/?cc=5901&ver=us
 
#65 ·
True. I suppose FIFA is looking amateurish like other international sports world bodies (a number of them much smaller than it, no doubt) for not having pro-actively listened to the complaints even before the tournament started.

  • IOC: Not pro-actively dealing with concerns over luge course in Vancouver among the top issues. Issue about questions asked about age of Chinese girl gymnasts and how they were dealt with.
  • ICC: (International Cricket Council - for those not in the know) Where do I even begin to list problems with this corrupt body of clowns? Worst I can list is the farce in which their championship final ended in darkness, because the umpires were cowards to decide on whether the match had actually ended or not!! Trophy was presented in pitch darkness literally, as they hadn't planned on time running over and scheduled match in a stadium with no floodlights.
  • NHL: Impending move of ice-hockey team down in the desert in Arizona "back" to Canada and the farcical circus associated with it. Commissioner, just get real and deal with the issue on time already. Not a major fan of the sport, but from what I've heard from fans I know: The commissioner happens to be one of their biggest hated villains over how he dealt with number of issues (their lost season with strike or TV rights negotiations).
  • FIA: (Body dealing with Formula-1 motorsport). Again, where to start with the idiotic and corrupt dealings of these crooks like Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone? From trying to shove Renault scandal in Singapore few years ago (intentional crash) under the rug, to the joke of abandoned-yet-not-really-abandoned race in Indianapolis few years ago over tire manufacturer scandal. It would take a miracle for these bozos to have a year without scandal. Or maybe the whole controversy part is intentionally built into their culture for media to chew over.
  • NBA: Referee gambling controversy. Did the commissioner have guts to deal with the problem pro-actively as had knowledge of the cancer beforehand, as some have suggested? Or were forced to deal with it only after crap hit the fan? What's with having to institute a dress code for the league, when the sports body itself siltently encouraged gangsta culture to get out of hand, in order to generate controversies? (Exhibit A: Dennis Rodman)
  • UCI: (International cycling union overseeing Tour de France and other tours) Is the sport totally rigged with doping or what? Does anyone have guts to clean it up? Individual suspensions like Floyd Landis don't count, as there are systemic problems. It's like the conference of mice on "Who's going to bell the cat?".
  • ISAF (international sailing federation overseeing America's Cup): Couldn't control spoiled brat behavior of champion Alinghi team stipulating ridiculous demands, such that the entire matter on how to conduct races had to end up in a court. Robbed fans of the sport of all qualification events (previously known as Louis Vuitton Cup named after sponsor), and ending up deciding winner in a "best of 3 races" farce as ruled by the judge.
  • MLB: Did the umpire incorrectly call that guy as "not out" robbing pitcher of place in history (name escapes me right now)? Come on commissioner, just deal with the controversy already. It's not that hard to put your foot down and opt for better technology, reverse an injustice when the umpire himself admits he made a mistake. The whole steroid scandal. Need I say more? (See the cycling union dopes above.)

Couldn't find major examples of recent controversies with ATP (tennis), PGA (golf), IRB (international Rugby Union body) or NFL. Of course there are lots of scandals involving individuals. (Drug scandals of Martina Hingis, the whole Tiger Woods house of shambles, Serena Williams sent off in disgrace, shocking intentional eye-gouging scandal by South African players on British Lions team, Michael Vick dog-fighting.) But those are not something I can put square blame on incompetence of governing bodies, for not dealing with issues pro-actively. One can argue that the issues were in fact dealt with correctly. Doesn't necessarily mean the governing bodies don't have any corrupt clowns in them, the future will only tell.

Conclusion being, there is no monopoly with being clowns for any major sport body world over. (Some of it with very tragic circumstances like the luger death in Vancouver.)

Blatter is famous world-over for being the biggest moron, saying some of the most idiotic things, literally putting his foot in the mouth. And well, just being a lying, corrupt crook. He was certainly more than capable of making decision on the vuvuzela stupidity 1 year ago. But he intentionally chose to do nothing for the reasons you cite.
 
#66 ·
JACKIEGAGA said:
Italy was lucky to come out with a point
Fantastic to see solid performances from both South Korea and Japan so far! Clearly shows that the 2002 success they both had as co-hosts were no flukes. They both have a lot to show for about the fundamentals of the game. Should be enough to shut up the whiners that such "weak" teams are crowding up the World Cup, how their place could've been better taken by better (to be read as European or South American - or rather snobs :rolleyes: ) teams such as Croatia, Sweden, Peru or whoever. Actually you know what, I still wouldn't count on snobbery to go away for a loooong time.
 
#70 ·
JACKIEGAGA said:
And they got big help today by getting a draw between New Zealand and Slovakia
The first-ever point that the Maori New Zealand kid earned for his small country, it was the greatest day of his life!! Such cinderella stories by some of these smaller teams, which have no chance in hell of becoming champions is what make such tournament so much fun!!! Except if it won't be a smaller country like Slovenia repeating such feat against USA!!! :sure:

Not to mention the country whose government I hate - North Korea - although obviously have nothing against the people in that country or their team. Who knows, the unexpected goal they scored against Brasil could end up taking them to the next round. After the pathetic display by both Portugal and Cote d' Ivoire, you never know. The goal differential followed by complicated tiebreaking formulas of head-to-head or goals scored will come in to determine who advances.

After seeing the impressive display of beautiful, flowing football Chile put up, Spain look like they need to get their act together fast.
 
#72 ·
Srbija 1 - 0 Deutschland with only 39 minutes gone!!!

And what's more, the crazy card happy Spanish referee has already sent off Miroslav Klose with red (2 yellows). He has been handing out cards as if he's giving Valentines Day notes in a kindergarten class. It's absolutely insane, as Srbija find themselves with 1 man advantage for such long duration of the match.

If Srbija end up winning this match, it will literally throw a monkey wrench into the entire group D.
 
#73 ·
This is absolutely hilarious. Check out this page with the speaker on your machine turned on:

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.dbstalk.com

And as if that's not enough, the following is the funiest thing: :lol:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/south-african-vuvuzela-philharmonic-angered-by-soc,17625/

Come on Bob Bradley, put in Edson Buddle along with Jozy up top; take out Findley and Ricardo Clark from Saturday's lineup against England and go with Torres instead. I would like to see Hercules Gomez come on as a super-sub in 2nd half. Almost an hour to go for our kickoff, I can hardly wait!!! Getting hyper here before the big event, whooooo!

Meanwhile Deutschland bravely throwing bodies even being man down and earn a penalty in 60th minute. Podolski steps up, a weak penalty and SAVED!!!!

For today it is Srbija's day!!! Still 30 more mins to go in this match.
 
#75 ·
Chandu said:
Such cinderella stories by some of these smaller teams, which have no chance in hell of becoming champions is what make such tournament so much fun!!! Except if it won't be a smaller country like Slovenia repeating such feat against USA!!! :sure:
Damn, if this bunch can't find a way to tie such a small team like Slovenija - let alone beat them - they don't deserve to have made the trip to South Africa.

What a dreadful show put up in the first half! :( :( :(
 
#76 ·
I am not a soccer fan, but watching anyway.
That has got to be a gut wretching last few minutes of the half.

- Yellow card that shouldn't have been
- Fraction of inch away from tying the game
- Now down 2.

Ouch
 
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