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248,000 Jobs added in may . Almost 1 million in 3 months

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  1. Jun 4, 2004 #21 of 101
    mainedish

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    They voted out democrats for a number of reason. One was the tax increase. I remember sending memos to my employees making $40,000 a year ( your rich according to democrats.)to adjust your withholding because Clinton had made the tax increase retro active . And the big lie was that only the rich would pay the tax increase.
     
  2. Jun 4, 2004 #22 of 101
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    If you are talking about Bush's tax changes, they weren't tax cuts. They are tax abatements. They expire in 2011 or around that time, then we go back to the old tax structure. If tax increases give me health care insurance that I can never lose, then bring 'em on. But you republicans don't like socialized medicine, because workers would become more "empowered" to make job changes of their choosing. Republicans like low-wage, job slavery.
     
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    Oh and for the Record ,2/3 of the new jobs are over the median income of $15.60/hour in May.
     
  4. Jun 4, 2004 #24 of 101
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    Yeah. But it's kind of like a new product that's just hit the shelves reporting 200% increase in sales week over week. I don't sense any kind of big recovery in the pacific northwest, at least not yet. And at this point in the game, it's not just the economy, it's basic credibility and walking the talk when it comes to our Country's values. Dubya just doesn't cut it.
     
  5. Jun 4, 2004 #25 of 101
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    tell us what you really feel!!! You must have been really depressed during the lie a second clinton years
     
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    It will be a while yet before a true recovery. The only thing that stopped a depression was dropping interest rates to near record lows. A fitting parallel to our economy now would be the Japanese economy of the '90's. Stagnant with a near 6% structural unemployment rate. The money spent in Iraq would have been better off spent here on public works projects, education, medicare, veterans benefits and refitting the military for a true war on terrorists.
    I'll bet Washington, Oregon and California are solidly in the Kerry camp now. Michigan very much is as well. Dubya shouldn't even waste his time here campaigning.
     
  7. Jun 4, 2004 #27 of 101
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    Many are seasonal because school is letting out. For instance, about 500 jobs are created near me at Six Flags, but those are seasonal low-paying jobs. There are many such theme parks around the country that are just starting up again for the season and hiring similarly. There are other recreational oriented jobs which start up in May and last possibly through Labor Day or a bit later.

    The "stories" I offered directly addressed your premise.
     
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    California was always in the Kerry Camp. But Michigan is adding jobs and according to the Report very good jobs. The unemployment rate is expected to drop to 4.5 by the summer time.
     
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    LOL...Still very stagnant here and will be for a while. A lot fell off the unemployment rolls. My right-wing friends even agree the economy here isn't very good. Most polls here give Kerry a big lead. Michigan is not a "swing state" as many republican spinsters would hope. Ohio is the midwest state that is really up for grabs. The polls are very tight there, giving Kerry a slight lead. Bush should go there...
     
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    Where is here ?
     
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    MI
     
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    Wow. Even with the data dancing in front of their faces, there are those who still cannot accept any good news for Bush.

    "Yeah, but Clinton did better.."

    Well... if we have the largest increase in 20 years.. then no, he didn't. And remember, Clinton came in just after a recession as well.

    But! I did my job. I hired someone.. at above the average pay, thank you very much. And he's not seasonal.
     
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    I thought the President couldn't really do anything to help or hurt the economy. At least that is what I heard about past Presidents...
     
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    Disagree or not, Bush will have to fight on whether Clinton did do better and win the argument. This is NOT my opinion, it is the opinion of my sister who used to criticize Clinton heavily. Bush has changed her opinion drastically. She's one of those 10% that will decide the election. I absolutely admit I am one of the Kerry 45%, being a former Democratic party member.
     
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    Well, According to the left tax increases fix the economy but I have yet to hear one person tell me how. I do believe that when a economy goes south you should cut taxes. Give people more money so they can pick it up again. John F. Kennedy did it .
     
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    But that dosen't explain how a President has the power to effect the economy.
     
  17. Jun 4, 2004 #37 of 101
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    The true president is Alan Greenspan.
    : ;)
     
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    You betcha! :D
     
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    So we should elect Kerry I guess but why?What will he do that Bush is not doing? I know he will raise taxes on all of us but what else?
     
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    There are the "have" and the "have mores". You must be one of the latter. I luv the "have" and "have mores" clip from Fahrenheit 9/11. It really shows the Bush disconnect, just like his Daddy.
    :grin:
     
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