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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by brettbolt, Aug 22, 2007.
We should all wait a few years until capacity on USB drives skyrockets!
Some people just want to complain.
E* made a feature available that no other provider that I'm aware of has.....
Go get your own equipment and let's party.....
That's the attitude they have at Dish... They think it's awesome they have a feature no one else wants to even step out to support.
About the fee, directly, I have say that there HAS to be some kind of insurance made to the company that they'll have honest customers following the copyright laws.... a dedicated group of customers insures this by paying $39.99 and that's a small fee for UNLIMITED DVR CAPACITY.... sheesh how many tivos would you need to buy to get that availability? You can't just toss a WD MYBOOK on your tivo and upgrade your capacity. Give me a break people.
[/QUOTE]You may feel foolish for paying the $39.95 fee when the Broadcasters force Dish to stop this service because it goes against copyright rules. Think about it, the major studios wants to sell the new HD DVDs and Blue Ray Dvd. If you are able to record movies on a hard drive and use it as a storage medium then why buy an HD or Blue Ray HD DVD, let alone the software for them. It is much cheaper to buy a 300mg hard drive and record the HD movies from Showtime, Stars, etc. The cost of Blue Ray HD DVD is from $25.00 to $50.00 and the major studios do not want to loss this income. That is why I believe this new feature from Dish will become mute.
HD you're recording from dish is not near as good as the sound and picture quality of HD-DVD and BD. My son was comparing "The prestige" on Starz and BR, during the lightning generator scene the VBR of BD went up to 40Mbs. It was pixelating city on starz. HD-DVD and BR need not worry.
Doesn't apply since it's for personal use. Google up the fair use act, it pertains exactly to what you are talking about. Now if you decode and burn new DVDs for sale on the street corner, you're going to have a problem. Dish won't, because they have taken measures to prevent that. If they hadn't, they might have had a problem.
FYI (since I just used that word a few posts up):
mute /myut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[myoot] adjective, mut·er, mut·est, noun, verb, mut·ed, mut·ing.
1. refraining from speech or utterance.
moot /mut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[moot] –adjective
1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
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I must have missed where someone discussed that in this thread.
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Sounds like a uh, lively party
Hooked mine up the other night. Works fine. Takes a while to transfer files, but with the flexibility of being able to have multiple drives to store movies recorded from Starz and HBO to create a large HD video library is sweet! and for $39.95, that is actually pretty inexpensive.
Just get it and enjoy...or don't get it.:hurah:
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Probably something else on that site. The cartoon linked was family friendly.
Two sheriffs talking:
#1: Sorry, stranger, but I'm the only sheriff in this here town.
#2: I know, I'm just the grammar sheriff.
#1: That don't seem like no kind of sheriff to me.
(Then the grammar sheriff shoots the other sheriff.)
:lol: I like it.
Different strokes for different folks; but I have never come close to the space limit on a 622. There are very few TV shows, that I want to save, once I have watched them.
So I can not care less, about an external HD.
Since I've gotten HD and a 622 we struggle to keep enough space left on the HD to record our favorite shows. I also love all of the concerts available with Dish so that takes up a lot of space.
I was seriously considering DVD recorders in the $100 range and on top of that I'd have to pay for discs (not terribly expensive) and I'd have to get up every time I wanted to put a concert in and watch it for a little while.
Now, I paid $39.99 for a one time fee that I consider going to R&D for me to be able to have this feature. I can now store as much as I'd like and it is extremely convenient.
We could be faced with not having this option at all... and to me, I'm happy to pay for it.
It would be really cool for all of the complaining to stop about it and turn around and thank Dish for the option.
James what about the work around that was mentioned on Tech Chat??
I was shocked that this hack was given up and could lead to Dish having to limit the content(by hollywood) we can record; since Dish told us how to get it on to DVD.
E* didn't say any more that we have been saying for years ... play your content and let a DVD burner (or VCR or other recorder) capture the A/V outputs of your receiver. Be aware that some content is transmitted with macrovision to make it harder to record.
E* does not support or encourage in any way sharing digital content with a machine on another account or to a PC.
[/QUOTE]TiVo appears to be acting unilaterally, disregarding established rights of content owners to participate in decisions regarding the distribution and exploitation of their content,” an NBC Universal spokesman said. “This unilateral action creates the risk of legal conflict instead of contributing to the constructive exploitation of digital technology that can rapidly provide new and exciting experiences for the consumer.[/QUOTE]
This is a suite that Hollywood had against TIVO in regards to tivo allowing recording of its content onto Apples IPod.
Dish will face a the same thus the external HD will become silence or mute.
Doubtful as (unlike Tivo) E* is doing all they can to protect the rights of the content owners while offering the extra storage.
E* is offering moving of content ... not unlimited copying.
E* is not offering networking of their receivers where copying can be made.
E* is offering new forms of content such as VOD and eventually DISH Online where the content will be fully controlled (with viewing time limited - the current form of VOD is limited to 24 hrs per payment) with no archiving.
E* is not offering hackers a free pass as Tivo has done to take content.
In a way this protection has held E* back ... but at the end of the day respecting the content providers wishes will mean they get to keep the feature.
I said yes! Nice to have more HD storage space.
I have been reading up on this forum for some time regarding dish because I *Might* be interested in getting it. However, I am nauseated by the little charge here, little charge there. I am floored that they would charge to connect a drive!!!!!!!:nono2:
Not only that, but it takes over the drive and doesn't allow you to move it to another receiver. It seems a lot of folks are happy to keep paying, but I will pass.....
FWIW, you can move the drive to another receiver 3 times. The 4th move it offers to format the drive. A future update should allow moving the drive between receivers on the same account as much as you like.
If Dish charged $300 for this option, there would still be people defending them. Even at $500, some people would say it's great and people who don't want to pay it are cheap. Ho hum.