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3TB and 4TB Drives. The Danger!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Tell that to bobcamp1, not to me - I did explain a couple times, but he still insist on his own mistake.
     
  2. Rich

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    Whoosh... :lol:

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  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    That would be overstated statement about HW incapability without any technical point of that

    - current HW is OK to work with 4K sectors, just need to do some updates on DVR Linux drivers and core as it was done in Linux world ...
     
  4. unixguru

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    You've certainly got the most robust arrangement I've ever heard of. (Although it can't handle a natural disaster :D)

    It's the best you can do given the tools DTV gives us.

    It's far from cheap or user friendly. DTV needs to give us better solutions.
     
  5. unixguru

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    Sure. My wife has a wall of bookcases stuffed full of books. If those were lost would people say "they're only books"?

    Both are entertainment. Personally I'm not big on books but I understand their value to people.

    Food and books are easily replaceable.

    Lots of DTV programming is not easily replaceable.
     
  6. Rich

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    What can?

    It was the only thing I could think of to do. If I hadn't spent the money for six owned HRs and 2TB drives for each one, it would have been a lot less, but it was worth it. I bought six 20-700s from MDU folks who had been the only owners and they all worked well. I bought them because D*'s replacement HRs were a royal PITA. I planned on using them as replacements, but they worked so well I sent a bunch of leased 20-700s and 21s back to D* and began to use the owned 20-700s. Naturally, with my luck, the 20-700s stabilized and I never had to use them as replacements.

    Once all the HRs are programmed with the appropriate SLs, the system is more user friendly than I expected it to be.

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  7. Rich

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    Don't know what to say about that. "It's only TV" is a pretty common answer for all the problems we have. I don't like it either.

    So true. Not impossible, but not easy either.

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  8. unixguru

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    Now they will send us to an institution :grin:

    If external storage could be moved from one DVR to another... then all you need is a pair of RAID storage devices with builtin replication and a fast pipe to a geographically distant location. Every block of data changed on A shows up on B. Lose A, still have all data at B. Standard operating procedure in enterprise computing for important stuff (accounting, inventory, etc).

    Obviously that doesn't make sense - ever.

    Would be a lot cheaper (no need for fast pipe) to have service at two locations and record everything at both. Of course then you definitely would want the ability to manage the DVR entirely from the internet.
     
  9. Rich

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    And you'd be paying for two accounts.

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  10. inkahauts

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    !rolling

    No, I don't think you understood my point. Everyone losing just a little means that most likely everyone will be able to find their shows online, and won't actually miss anything.

    However, I see with the new genie ads, they have something listed that I have not yet seen, so I am hoping it comes soon and will be a far better resolution to the idea that you have lost your dvr. It appears as though they are trying to get it set up so that you can always go back and watch anything that was on in the last five weeks. I would assume this means they are trying to get a full on demand recording of every show for the last five weeks available to everyone. That will solve the issue of redundancy for 99.99% of their customers. Won''t help me, as I record seasons at a time, and then watch in big groups some shows, but as I know most people don't watch like I do....
     
  11. unixguru

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    Sure. Disaster-proof is expensive. Two accounts are nothing compared to a fat data pipe for replication.
     
  12. Rich

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    That's the way we watch series, too. We can't be the only ones who watch a series after the season ends. They built that 34 with little thought. Just put out a five tuner HR with a paltry 1TB drive in it that we would fill up quickly, making it a necessity to purchase an external device and a huge HDD.

    Putting content on VOD is a fix of sorts, but it would be much easier to allow us to have the ability to watch the contents of any HDD recorded on any HR within an account on any HR within that account. It's the only way I can see to solve the problem.

    I'm waiting patiently for the first person who puts a 4TB drive on a 34 to have that 34 fail (and they will, don't kid yourselves about that) and with it goes all the programming on that huge drive. Lost forever.

    Rich
     
  13. unixguru

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    There have been times in the past where we've lost a program due to a storm and we couldn't find it online - even months later.

    Besides the time it takes to search for stuff online, when it's found it's always low-def. I put a lot of money into equipment and services for HD. DTV can stuff their low-def On Demand.

    I've already outlined the right way to do things...

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3014794#post3014794
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3067523#post3067523
     

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