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3TB and 4TB Drives. The Danger!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. Sep 30, 2012 #21 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    RAID is definitely the way to go to combat drive loss, and that's why I went RAID 5. However that's all null and void if the 34 itself fails. I realize that when a DVR fails the majority of the time it's because the hard drive failed but it would be nice if recordings were tied to accounts and not devices should the device fail for a reason other than drive failure.
     
  2. Sep 30, 2012 #22 of 193
    dpeters11

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    I don't know about the cloud aspect, I just think that would be problematic. All we really need is the ability to plug an external drive into any DVR on the same account, and everything starts where it left off, all recordings accessible. And with no fee.

    Seems much less complex.
     
  3. Sep 30, 2012 #23 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    No, we really don't need to go to the "cloud" fad.
     
  4. Sep 30, 2012 #24 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    That's where you're wrong. At a minimum they'd have to have 1 copy of every show from every demographic. Can't cut out the local guys!

    Then they'd need 1 copy of every movie from every movie channel. Can't just have 1 copy of "Cowboys & Aliens" from HBO, you'd have to have it from Cinemax, Showtime, etc.

    You just can't do what Apple is doing with Match for TV shows and movies.
     
  5. Sep 30, 2012 #25 of 193
    P Smith

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    while you guys joyful dragging the thread off-topic, it would be reasonable to ask the sat providers (dtv, dish, etc) for a few kilobytes of account's storage to series, times, etc what many is redo manually after each quirk with a box
     
  6. Sep 30, 2012 #26 of 193
    dpeters11

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    Now that cloud storage I'd be happy with.
     
  7. Sep 30, 2012 #27 of 193
    Davenlr

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    I really see no reason why, if we can sendreport to DirecTv, we couldnt also SendSettings.... Just stupid they havent implemented such a simple addition that even AOL had 10 years ago.
     
  8. Sep 30, 2012 #28 of 193
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    I agree completely. As a long time D* DVR user with large external drives (currently 2TB) I can't count the number of times I've lost nearly full drive contents due to either bad DVR replacements or upgrades (the most recent being the HR34 upgrade). I don't know what's worse, loss of content or effort to recreate Series Recording list. Now that I've got 99 series recordings, the next DVR replacement will most certainly be a chore. Last upgrade I got a little smarter though and took pictures of the old list before kissing goodbye!

     
  9. Sep 30, 2012 #29 of 193
    Diana C

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    I hate to bring up the "t-word" but TiVo allowed you to move a recording from one DVR to another. I used that several times when one DVR's drive starting getting funky. It allowed me to save a few key recordings, and then replace the drive.

    I fully support the idea of locking a DVR's recordings to the account, not the individual receiver. And it doesn't matter how small a percentage of users make use of the feature. I can't imagine it is any more complicated than changing the source for the unique encryption key from the receiver's ID number to the account number. If it takes a programmer more than half a day to make the code change they need better programmers.

    By the way, if we could replace DVRs and keep our recordings, people might be more likely to upgrade to newer equipment, getting DirecTV more customers under commitment.
     
  10. Sep 30, 2012 #30 of 193
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    FWIW.....

    They can create Nomad, linked to our account.

    It seems logical to me that they could create a way to allow us to not lose everything when our DVR dies.

    I understand the RAID external concept, but this is added expense and still doesn't fully protect you from the hassle of a DVR failure.
     
  11. Oct 1, 2012 #31 of 193
    inkahauts

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    Do you record mostly series, or lots of movies as well, or more of a mix?
     
  12. Oct 1, 2012 #32 of 193
    inkahauts

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    I would actually think that if there where to be any line drawn in the sand, it would be the hr34 and newer, simply because they appear to be the only receivers so far that can deal with larger hard drives. If that not a concern, then I would like to dream that it would work with any unit.
     
  13. Oct 1, 2012 #33 of 193
    inkahauts

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    I agree.. But then again, we kind of had cloud storage already for some stations. On demand, for example with HBO, has everything. If all the channels went the same route as HBO then we would have cloud storage in a way that I think most people would be ok with. Its just that on demand now, except for HBO, is extremely lacking... :(
     
  14. Oct 1, 2012 #34 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    Cinemax also has all their series and a ton of movies as well, like MaxGo.
     
  15. Oct 1, 2012 #35 of 193
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    Yup...that is indeed true.

    In fact nomad would be one of several ways to support archiving. It comes down to locking down copy protection within the framework of a storage device - the logical path would be to assign storage based upon an account number, not a specific HD DVR RID as it's done today. There are no technical barriers to doing it.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2012 #36 of 193
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    RAID's no good if you can't transfer it to another DVR. I don't use any external HD for the same reason.

    If the HD was transferrable I would use it and I think many other people would as well. My greatest fear is having a lot, or almost any, stuff to watch and having the unit fail with no chance of recovery.

    What would be cool to me is a DVR with a transferrable, external HD and no internal HD. Then RAID (or backup) would become interesting.
     
  17. Oct 1, 2012 #37 of 193
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    HDD failures are probably by far the most common failures. If you are using an external HDD, then if you suspect that the drive is beginning to fail, you just copy it to a new drive, and voila, back in business. To me, that is currently one of the best reasons to be using an external HDD, along with all the extra space you have.
     
  18. Oct 1, 2012 #38 of 193
    dpeters11

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    True, but having had a fan failure in an HR34, I still want more support before taking that plunge.
     
  19. Oct 1, 2012 #39 of 193
    Rich

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    Supporting larger drives is fine with me, all I want is the ability to play those drives on any HR within my account. Seems so simple, why the delay? It's been well over 5 years since we started asking for this.

    Rich
     
  20. Oct 1, 2012 #40 of 193
    Rich

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    Yeah, I guess you're right. Just throwing some ideas out there.

    Rich
     

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