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522/625 - L2.39 Software Release Notes and Discussion

Discussion in 'Standard Definition Receiver Support Forum' started by Parrothead, Jun 15, 2005.

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  1. JohnL

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    Mike,


    The 942 is NOT based on the 522/625 at all. First the 942 has an integrated ATSC/NTSC tuner, as well as the ability to do Satellite HD and OTA HD. It has an HDMI and composite outputs as well. The only thing that makes them similar is it has Two Satellite Tuners and two TV outputs.

    The 942's OS is completely different than a 522/625. Just because the UI is much the same doesn't mean the receivers are based on the same hardware. The decoder chips in the 942 are completely different than the 522/625, the processor in the 942 is also MUCH faster. I have a have a Laptop computer that I use, as well as a Desktop. Both have totally different hardware but the same OS, but their UI's are the same.

    A HD receiver can NOT use the OS of a SD box. The HD receivers have faster proccesors as well as HD decoder chips, so the hardware is totally different with different support needs for both ATSC/NTSC and HD TV outputs. If the 942 did use the 522/625 OS provided it would function AT ALL, you would lose all of the unique features of the 942 receiver mostly HD.


    John
     
  2. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

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    John - you are incorrect. The 522 code was used as the basis for the 942 code, just as the 721 code was used as the basis for the 921 code.
     
  3. JohnL

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    Okay, I can admit a mistake but, I'm sure the 942 has much more code to support the HD features than the base 522/625 code.

    I'll surmize the 942's much faster processor executes the OS with fewer hicups, maybe the 522's code is pushing its proccesor to the limit and that is one of the reasons the 522/625 experiences more problems.

    John
     
  4. cboylan3

    cboylan3 Godfather

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    no problems with live tv nor recordings.
     
  5. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

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    Absolutely, no question about that! :)
     
  6. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    Northern...
    We are now copying all notes into a dedicated forum, so that they are easier to find for review.

    You'll find that forum here: http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=94
     
  7. Racerx

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    Unbeknownst, to me, my 522 was updated to L2.39 in the last several days. Unfortunately, I, to, am still having audio and video issues, albeit, at a seemingly lower amount of frequency than before. I still have those moments, where the audio will dropout, for a second or two, and it is usually followed by a "block-y" image, for the same duration. The way I was clued into the fact that my 522 was updated, was that the font, in the guide appeared different, and less clear. Kinda fuzzy. So, I thought, "Hmm. I bet....", and, sure enough: The info page showed L2.39. It SEEMS to be a step in the right direction, but still not the reliability that I had signed on for. I NEVER had issues, like these when I was with D*. I feel we ALL should be getting money knocked off, automatically, till they get these things working like they are SUPPOSED to.
     
  8. Apache

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    Still have drop outs here too.
     
  9. llunken777

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    My audio dropouts and blocky video have actually increased when I was updated from L2.35 to L2.39. I've been calling in each month and getting a credit off my bill and if everyone who has these problems still would call and demand a credit each month, maybe it would speed up Dish to get this problem fixed sooner.
     
  10. Mike D-CO5

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    Are you getting these dropouts on live tv or on recorded tv? I would like to isolate this since I am about to get my mom and dad a 522. Does this happen on the 625 too? Anyone with any answers please?
     
  11. chaddux

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    For me, the audio dropouts have NEVER been on live TV. It's always recorded (or when watching delayed live TV). I've noticed a significant jump in the amount of dropouts and pixelation since moving from 2.36 to 2.39.
     
  12. Racerx

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    Same here. Always recorded stuff, no live stuff. Normally, it's in the playback, such that if you back up, and play that same spot over, it will not do it, again, in that spot. However, I DO get some that DO repeat the problems in the same spot, which means, in those cases, it must be in the recording.
     
  13. WhiteForMe

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    I never had any complaints about my 522 until now. With this 2.39 it now has audio drop outs and pixelation during playbacks. Also kind of nice with the 3 page system info like other IRD's, but it dosent show sat 110, the box will go green and the other sats are listed, just for some reason the first sat block is blank.


    Was just playing with it again, after looking at the check switch. It wasnt seeing 110 sat on tuner 2. After running a check switch and then checking the system info screen again, it now shows 110 in the first box......

    Wish these 522's had the menu 6-1-5 system up-grades, so we could check "Ask Before Downloading". Then I could have kept my L235 :(
     
  14. maximum

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    Still have audio drops and pixelization, same as 2.35 and every 2.xx version before that.
     
  15. MarkLamme

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    Hello All!

    I'm new here. Why? I just had a 322 and a 625 installed. Didn't know how to do anything. But I've notices a lot of artifacts. I've seen problems with sound, pixelization, chirps and jumps in video. So I thought I had a problem! Google of course led me here.

    I just check the version number and it indeed is L239. I believe I am getting a lot more problems than when it was installed.

    Is it possible that the hard drive is being pushed to do more than it was designed for? Recording two shows at the same time (or one and a live buffer) seems like it would drop some data here and there. Seems like it would be like watching a video and defraging your hard drive at the same time. But I'm not an expert.

    Now that I'm scrutinizing it. I see that the picture is tilted a bit. Every time I see some DVR graphics one side is below the top edge and one is touching the top edge of the screen. (Great now I'll be staring at that for a month!)

    Mark
     
  16. agentjack

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    I have had my 625 for about a a month now and I have the same problems. pixelization, chirps, and audio cutting out. The audio cutting out seems to happen most the time. it will happen about 4 or 5 times during a 30 min show. These are recorded shows on the drive. If I rewind and play the same part, 95% of the time it will happen again which leads me to believe it is in the recording.

    The 625 is a lot more buggy than the 7200 and 501 I use to own.
     
  17. CopyChief

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    My 522 was updated from 235 to 235 and, like others, the pixel rips and audio drops on recorded programs have increased, at least two or three on each half-hour program. It's not jumping out of sync anymore, but it's still pretty annoying.
     
  18. Randy_B

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    Our 522 got 239 and one of the PPV movies that we recorded got corrupted. The name in the PVR event list went away, replaced by the symbol for "Phi" and a bright green arrow head. When you are on that item, the truncated info on the list screen still shows it as Forgotten and indicates 2 hr recording and gives some info, if you select it, the info screen is blank and if you try to delete it or play it, the hard drive diagnostic screen kicks in.

    I haven't figured up the total time on the disk to see if I am actually loosing 2 hrs of space or not.

    Dish and their damn lousy SW updates!!!!

    I guess it is fortunate that it was paid for by one of their coupons, so at least I am not actually out any money.
     
  19. Barrysb

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    I'm using a 522, L2.39 and subscribe to MLB Season Ticket. I'm trying to create a Dish Pass that will record all Red Sox games. My search criteria is 'mlb boston' in the title and no exact match. Dish Pass finds and records all away games, where the event title is 'Mlb Boston vs. ________' but not 'Mlb ________ vs. Boston' home games.

    Am I doing something wrong or is this just the nature of the beast? :confused:
     
  20. BuckeyeChris

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    Have you tried simplifying your search terms to either "Boston" or "Red Sox?" You might pick up some unwanted programs with the word Boston in the title, but I wouldn't think you would miss any home or away games.
     
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