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622 vs. 722k

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by Jim148, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. Jim148

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    Well DISH has talked me out of an upgrade for now. I had been waiting for the 922, but since there is no TV2 output I decided to find out more about going from 622 to 722k. The DISH guy tells me that it will cost:

    $100 Upgrade Fee

    $ 95 Technician Installation Fee

    So now I think I will just keep my 622! That seems pretty expensive to add two features:

    -larger hard drive (500 GB to 1 TB)

    -dual over the air capability

    Plus they renew a 24 month contract. Are there any other compelling features that I am missing here? Purely from an economic standpoint, I can add an external hard drive and get more memory.

    Might they have some special offers to waive these fees? I am just anticipating that the $100 upgrade fee is for somebody to enter a few keystrokes in a database. As far as the installation fee, I can't imagine that it gets much simpler than going from a 622 to a 722k.

    Speaking of memory, has anybody here tried a Western Digital My Book 2 TB external HD? They still tell me over the phone that there is a 1 TB maximum size limit.
     
  2. BattleZone

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    The 722/k only has a 500 GB drive, compared to (IIRC) a 320 GB in the 622.

    You should not need an installer were you to upgrade; it will drop-in replace what you've got. But since you don't have the Service Plan, all tech vists will cost you $95. That would drop to $15 with the SP.

    All lease upgrades require a 2 year commitment. But I doubt it would be worth it; the difference between a 622 and a 722 is small.
     
  3. olguy

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    Is Dish now saying you can upgrade from a 622 to a 722K?
     
  4. Jim148

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    Yes, they said that I am eligible for an upgrade.
     
  5. lujan

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    I'm very upset with Dish right now because they won't let me upgrade to 922 until September. I was having problems with signal on a 622 and at their suggestion, I upgraded to a 722 which, of course, didn't fix the problem. They had to come out and change me from one dish pointed at all 3 satellites to 2 dishes. Even though they asked me to upgrade, they still will not let me go to a 922. Maybe it's for the best if the 922 is currently going through the usual growing pains and bugs.
     
  6. BattleZone

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    You can upgrade from anything to anything as long as you pay the upgrade fee, and you end up with 3 or fewer leased receivers. You'll have a 2 year commitment and will have to wait 12 months for your next lease upgrade, as always.
     
  7. BattleZone

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    One lease upgrade per 12 month period has been the rule for years; that's nothing new.
     
  8. GrumpyBear

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    Not to argue, but it depends on how you use it.
    I just bought a 722k to replace my 622. The only reason was for the ability to record 2 OTA channels on the same unit. Larger harddrive is nice, the black color is better, but the main issue was the ability to record 3 stations and surf on the third tuner, several times a week. There aren't many things that would make the 722k better, but there are a few.
     
  9. lujan

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    Yes, but the last upgrade wasn't my choice.
     
  10. TulsaOK

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    If one upgrades from a 722 to a 722k (for the extra OTA tuner), since that's a "drop-in" replacement, what does Dish charge for that w/o the service plan?
     
  11. BattleZone

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    Did you:

    - accept the upgrade order?
    - allow the tech in to change the receiver?
    - sign the Dish'n It Up contract?

    If so, then it seems pretty obvious that it was, in fact, your choice. You could have accepted Dish's direct replacement (another 622).

    I'm not trying to give you a hard time or anything, but your perception of what happened doesn't seem to match the facts.
     
  12. Jim148

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    I was thinking more about the economics of this and wondering if I ought to consider just buying a 722k. Can anybody suggest a good place to outright buy a 722k and will that only save me the $95 technician fee? I assume that I would have to pay the upgrade fee if I "do it myself".
     
  13. bnborg

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    I don't know. The current price at Dish Depot is $315.99. Plus the OTA module would cost an additional $39.99. :eek2:

    Of course you could probably find cheaper ones on ebay, etc. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Jim148

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    Would I likely still have to pay a $100 upgrade fee then?
     
  15. BattleZone

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    If you buy a receiver, you pay the cost of the receiver. You are responsible for installing it (or you can pay Dish to send a tech), and of course, you pay the monthly programming fee.

    The "upgrade fee" is for a LEASE upgrade. You won't pay that with an owned receiver. And no commitment on an owned receiver.

    BUT... you only get a 90 day warranty on an owned receiver. If it dies at 91 days, and you don't have the Service Plan, then you'd have to go buy another one.
     
  16. olguy

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    In another thread I stated I had tried to upgrade from a 622 to a 722K and the CSR and her supervisor both said the 622, 722 and 722K were considered by Dish for all intents and purposes to be the same. Another poster didn't think that was correct. You yourself said it was and that it depends on what the installer has on the truck. I specifically told them I wanted to upgrade one of 2 622s and was told no guarantees as to getting a 722K. Are you now saying you were mistaken in your previous post and I should be able to specify an upgrade to a 722K from a 622?
     
  17. Jim148

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    Thanks for that information. I am undecided at this point which way I may go. I have both leased and owned in the past. I started with leasing, but I bought two 811s used because I wanted HD. After everything was said and done, I think the economics of owning vs. leasing was very close. While I didn't pay the monthly leasing fee, I did pay more up front initially. I switched back to leasing when I got the 622 because I don't think any were available for sale when they first came out (or it was cost prohibitive.) But now, considering the $100 upgrade fee and $95 technician installation fee, I may go back to owning.

    If anybody here has any additional thoughts on owning vs. leasing I would be interested in hearing your experiences. Or I may start another thread on that very topic.
     
  18. Jim148

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    I should have a 722k coming soon and the optional over the air tuner. Can someone just verify that I can keep the remote controls that came with the 622 and use them with the 722 in addition to the ones that come with the 722k?
     
  19. peano

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    Yes, your 622 remotes will work.
     
  20. peano

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    I buy all my receivers and they have always had a 1 year warranty from date of activation. Is 90 days new?

    Also, a replacement 722k from Dish used to be $49 plus shipping should the purchased receiver fail.
     

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