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811 - P3.35 Release Notes and Discussion

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Mikey, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Feb 23, 2006 #81 of 115
    Jerry G

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    I'm not sure what your mean by "up", but if you're referring to black levels, how could you see any change between 3.34 and 3.35 if no changes were made to the black levels in 3.35?

    In any case, I solved the black level component bug in 3.34 and 3.35. I spent $110 for a 30 feet DVI cable for the bedroom 811. The black level bug only affected the component output and not the DVI. So now, with DVI, the black levels are where they should be. Too bad this bug cost me $110, but I wasn't willing to wait for Dish to fix the component bug.

    I'd submit that those who don't see the component bug do not have properly calibrated sets. If your black levels were too high to begin with, the component output black level bug wouldn't be as noticeable. I don't believe that this bug has variable appearance based upon different 811 hardware. It's a software bug that those whose displays have properly calibrated black levels will easily notice.
     
  2. Feb 23, 2006 #82 of 115
    Ken H

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    As noted, component video was not affected by 3.35. Meaning it's still not right. No guide info is still an occasional visitor, a few lock ups along the way....

    The one or two digit local DTV channel tuning is an improvement.
     
  3. Feb 23, 2006 #83 of 115
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    I WISH I had turned OFF - Auto Update, now I can't because I hope and pray they are going to Correct this abortionate 3.35 "update". I wish I could have them download 3.34 again for me - - - - This is the First time that I MUST Commplain about any of the updates I have received for me 811:
    This is the problem, I HATE it: It destroyed my options/control over the various HD Settings (ie - Stretch; Partial Zoom; ......etc.) THEY are all the same NOW and none FILL the Screen UNLESS the program is in TRUE HD -16x9. I am having to watch most everything in SD ZOOM to fill the screen - what a bunch of CRAP this is.
    I am off to send them an EMail GRIPE now - - - - I wish I'd never come back to DISH...............when my contract is up I'm GONE!

    FOLLOW UP: I just turned OFF the Receiver (at the receiver) and forced a Re-Boot, after "the dust settled" I now have contol of HD Page Up and the various formats it controls AGAIN - - - - whew! What a relief!
     
  4. Feb 24, 2006 #84 of 115
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    I spoke too soon - - - my 811 is NOT working as before, even after the re-boot;
    when a station is broadcasting in NOT Full Screen, AND I have it set for HD, before I could use the PAGE UP (HD Screen Formats) to change it to FILL the Screen - - - NOT after 3.35 - - - it does change BUT within the smaller picture - NOT Full Screen.
    WHAT IT IS????

    TKS:confused:
     
  5. Feb 24, 2006 #85 of 115
    Norm In Norman

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    After messing around with it a bit more, yeah the component colors are still a problem. I guess I just wanted it to be fixed. I think maybe when I turned it on for the first time after the upgrade I happened to have it on something that was overly dark or something. During normal viewing I can see every single mpeg block when I have the brightness set to normal. That's how bright it is.

    Now I'm having problems with OTAs. After the update, I had a heck of a time getting KFOR (OKC's NBC) to lock. It shows a signal stength of around 49% for a long time then it jumps to 90% or more and locks on. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes or more for it to lock. So i decided to try rescanning my channels. Not only did it not fix my problem, but now every time I try to add channel 52 to the channel list the 811 reboots. It worked fine before the update and after the update (before I deleted the channel).

    Is this a ploy to get us to pay to upgrade our receivers? My original plan was to wait until the new DVR got fairly cheap (less than $100) then upgrade to it. Now I'm sort of thinking about switching to DirectTV instead. I shouldn't have to think about my TV working, it should just work.
     
  6. Feb 24, 2006 #86 of 115
    KLUMP

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    This issue has got me looking hard at direct tv, I have never had direct tv for the reason of the free 811 equipment 2 yrs ago, but now direct tv has a free equipment option, and my monthly bill wil be a little less. Anyone have any pros and cons on direct tv? I know the don't have the extra voom channels but nether did I. And wasn't looking to upgrade yet.
     
  7. Feb 24, 2006 #87 of 115
    rustamust

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  8. Feb 24, 2006 #88 of 115
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    Does ANYONE else have the following problems since 3.35?

    Prior to 3.35 - when HD Channels were broadcasting at less than Full Screen - I could use Page UP and change to "HD" Size/shape format and FILL the screen so NO burn in - - - NOT any more - - - NOW - when doing the same use of Page UP, the picture size does not ever FILL the screen - it just changes within the same sized picture.
    Also - I notice that when watching SD Channels - the Page UP changing of Picture Format WORKS - - - it then changes as it used to on HD Channels (FULL screen).
    When switching to S-Video SD Normal it goes to SD ZOOM and you cannot get out of this "distortion".
    What it is?????:mad:
     
  9. Feb 25, 2006 #89 of 115
    rickmac

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    Check the menu to see if the screen size is check for 4:3 or 16:9
     
  10. Feb 25, 2006 #90 of 115
    Ken H

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    Most likely.
     
  11. Feb 25, 2006 #91 of 115
    cyberized

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    TKS ricmack - - - for suggestion,,,,,,,I checked and the "update" did not change my seeings for HDTV, they were as supposed to be, 16x9; 1080i. Is this ONLY me having this lousy problem or what???
    While in that HDTV part of the Menu - I played with "ADJUST" and it has gotten even stranger now.......now, sometimes when you say pick "Partial Zoom" it will fill 3/4's of the screen (it's off to one side in other words) then I go back and forth or back to ADJUST - and it goes to Normal Partial Zoom - - - Full Screen 16x9.
    IF now one else is having this problem with 3.35 - maybe it is NOT 3.35 related - maybe I need a new 811????:confused:
     
  12. Feb 25, 2006 #92 of 115
    rickmac

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    I looked back here quickly, didn't see if any one said to "default" the unit, menu 6-1-6, see if this helps, I may even try a default, then a power off, just make sure the unit exits the defaulting process first.
     
  13. Feb 25, 2006 #93 of 115
    Freckles

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    I've had a similar change since I just got the update. I have to push the format button and the page up and down buttons, sometimes several times to get the picture to fill the screen properly. Prior to the update my picture defaulted to SD or HD when I changed channels on the 811. I'm also having problems with the picture freezing and audio dropping today. In fact, I just changed channels from HD to SD and the SD channel stayed in HD. When I pressed the info button, the HD Normal changed to HD Zoom and then froze video and dropped audio. I've been happy with my 811 until now. Any suggestions??
     
  14. Feb 26, 2006 #94 of 115
    Freckles

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    The picture format is back to normal today. No idea why...but hope it lasts :)
     
  15. Feb 26, 2006 #95 of 115
    diospyros

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    Received P335 2-3 days ago.

    First let me say that I had an issue I've never seen mentioned. When I first power on my Sony RP-CRT monitor I would have to soft reboot the 811 in order to use the HDMI input on the Sony. I believed the HDMI gave a slightly better picture than component, but component would allow me to watch instantly while I had to wait for the 811 to reboot to use the HDMI. I just assumed it was some sort of incompatibility between the DVI out on 811 and the HMDI on the TV. (Anyway, while PQ was clearly much better on HDMI when viewing DVDs than when using component, the difference in PQ was much less noticable when viewing E*, and may have been my imagination.)

    Well, P334 washed out component and, depending on content, made component PQ look pretty crappy. So I was left with the HDMI and a necessary reboot to watch the set. No big deal, but was disgusted to lose the component functionality.

    Amazingly P335 has fixed the HDMI problem and now I can power on the equipment in any order and 811 resets are no longer necessary to watch HDMI.

    Component input still looks lighter and softer than digital. I cannot compare P334 and P335 PQ, but the difference between component and HDMI is still real and definitely not imaginary at this point.
     
  16. Feb 27, 2006 #96 of 115
    WhatAgain

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    I had similar problems as yours, it didn't go back to normal for me:(
     
  17. Feb 27, 2006 #97 of 115
    KLUMP

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    Skates,
    Sunday I figured I would set the 811 back to default using the default option in the menu. And "WOW" it fixed my problem, also had to go back in to HD Settings and fix the 16.9 setting. Then did a reboot. Off Air Digital is back. Lost all my favorites, but that was not a big deal.

    Hope this helps you.

    KLUMP
     
  18. Feb 27, 2006 #98 of 115
    cyberized

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    GOOD NEWS! to Report here............I followed KLUMPS example and went into Menu and used the DEFAULT to roll everything back and start over.......WALA....and Thank God! Everything is Working now as intended and as before this latest download of the 3.35 Update.
    Looking GOOD in the Neighborhood!;)
     
  19. Feb 27, 2006 #99 of 115
    Ron Barry

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    Nice find Klump. Hopefully it will work with Skates. Looks like something that is effecting some. Since I am in Skates area and am not having the same issues, it would be nice to get a root cause.
     
  20. KLUMP

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    Now that i think we are back good to go, I have a question. Is there much of a diffrence in using a DVI connector than YPbPr component connectors? What are the pros and cons?
     

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