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921 vs. 522 - Which to get?

Discussion in 'Standard Definition Receiver Support Forum' started by ClaudeR, Nov 6, 2004.

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  1. Nov 6, 2004 #1 of 37
    ClaudeR

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    I am planning on getting a 522, but just saw the $250 921 ad. Very tempting, but I don't have a HD TV (yet).

    1. After the year of $10 per month extra, can I downgrade to the SD T50?
    2. Is there an extra $5 VOD fee?
    3. Is this a purchase where I would own the 921, or another variant of DHP?
     
  2. Nov 6, 2004 #2 of 37
    sluggo

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    What $250 921 deal?
     
  3. Nov 6, 2004 #3 of 37
    BFG

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    I'm assuming your not yet a Dish customer, right?

    Well what your compairing is apples to oranges.

    1)I think you'd be required to have a year of HD programming, but the first 6 months would be free. You'd also have to sub to a minimum of AT60 for a year. What is SD T50?

    2)There is an extra $4.98 VOD fee for either box.

    3)If you were to sign up with the 921 for $200 (plus $49 activation fee (but any dish sub can get this waived for you, ok shameless plug for me over)) it would be under the Free Dish promo and you would own the equipment.
     
  4. Nov 6, 2004 #4 of 37
    BFG

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    New subcribers can upgrade to a 921 under the Free Dish promo for $200 + the usual $49 activation fee.

    Also, FYI. You can get a HDTV and 921 (in the box deal) for $999 (open to new and old customers)
     
  5. Nov 6, 2004 #5 of 37
    ClaudeR

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    I am not a dish customer yet.
    SD - Standard definition T50 (I think it's now called T60)

    Thanks.
     
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    BFG

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    yeah ok then, I was assuming that's what you meant. So did I cover all the bases?
     
  7. Nov 6, 2004 #7 of 37
    ClaudeR

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    Does it work well for regular standard definition programming? Huge hard drive should do well for regular programming. Thanks for the info.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2004 #8 of 37
    BFG

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    From what I've read, the 921 works decently for satellite programming, both HD & SD. The main glitches with it is the Digital Over the Air aspect of it...
     
  9. Nov 7, 2004 #9 of 37
    the_bear

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    One factor is how big is your current TV? If you have a set over 30 in., even if it is SD, you would benefit from 921's ability to take HD and down convert.
     
  10. boylehome

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    Get the 921. Like the 921, the 721 had problems when first released. Now it is pretty solid. The same holds true for the 921. It is getting better and cheaper. It is a better investment than the 522.
     
  11. ClaudeR

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    I see a couple advantages of the 522, even though it is DHP, I can get the locals with T60 for $30 + $5 VOD fee. Biggest thing for me is the Dual outputs.

    Looks like it would be an extra $11 per month to get the HDTV, locals, T60, along with the cost of the receiver - and warranty expires after a year with the 921.

    I've been watching the different dish deals for almost two years, and have yet to jump in.

    I suppose I could get a 301 for the second room, but that's another $5.

    Any other suggestions?
     
  12. boylehome

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    You asked and here it is:
    If you want cheap, go cheap. If you want expensive, go expensive. If you don't like a package once you get it, change it. If you can't make up your mind in two years, it's doubtful you'll make it up now. By the time you decide, it will all have changed.
     
  13. Scott Greczkowski

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    If you want a 921 you should get one now before they are gone, I got a note over the weekend from Echostar stating that the 921 has been discontinued.
     
  14. Mark Lamutt

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    Hmmm...funny, I got a note over the weekend saying that the 921 has NOT been discontinued. Want to compare notes, Scott?
     
  15. Scott Greczkowski

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    Sure, Claude got an email from a Dish Network senior executive saying that it was. :)

    Also on the Retailer Chat the 921 sale is being called a "CLOSEOUT"
     
  16. Mark Lamutt

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    That's definitely not what engineering is saying. Maybe we'll get word tonight.

    It would be an incredibly stupid move on Dish's part to not have a HD recorder on the market for the holiday season and the 942 isn't going to be ready in time.
     
  17. Scott Greczkowski

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    Mark check your PM.
     
  18. Mark Lamutt

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    Yup...your guy is higer level than the one that I talked to yesterday...

    I still maintain, though, that if this is in fact true, it is an absolutely, incredibly stupid move on Dish's part, and an absolutely atrocious business decision.
     
  19. Scott Greczkowski

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    Mark, honestly are you surprised? This is afterall Echostar we are talking about. :D

    Since no public announcement of the 921 being Discontinued has been made and I don't expect one to be made (As they never publiclly announce that stuff) one has to wonder...

    Will the 921 ever get Name Based Recording
    Will the 921 ever get OTA Guide Data (I say yes to this one)
    Will the 921 ever get Dish Home Interactive
    Will the 921 ever get the Dish Home Media Option

    I am sure there are a bunch more will the 921 ever get that I am missing. Perhaps someone can get through to the tech chat tonight and ask these questions. :)
     
  20. Bob Haller

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    What you do is have a nice closeout sale on a discontinued box just in time for the holiday season. Dont call it closeout, but clear the shelves of this dead end item. Sometime after the first of the year probably seconbd quartter release the new high def box.

    I doubt the 921 will get much in the way of upgrades, better to put the bucks in new hardware.

    name based upgrades wouldnt occur for moist existing boxes, es[pically the 921.

    the old adgae buy for what it does today is espically valid on the 921.
     
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