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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by sulaco1997, Apr 24, 2006.
Dialups have ZERO to do with your recievers getting software updates - but there is a setting that you have about permission to update. Disregard these updates at YOUR peril - it's a good way to turn your recievers into doorstops.
And yes - I DO let my receivers update.
I don't see this as a big deal. Dish is protecting their investment. They know if you subscribe only to locals on one receiver and your brother subscribes to the everything Pak, and pay channels with 4 receivers that he can lend you some oh his recievers and you could split the bill. That's piracy and how else do you expect them to police it if they don't call you?
I realy don't see what the big deal is with the audit team. If they audit you, they audit you. It's not like they are asking you to recite the Gettysburg Adress from memory.
Yeah, and the next time the IRS audits me, I'm going to stop paying taxes in protest.
The satellite industry is as corrupt as the gasoline companies. It doesn't cost E* any more $ to transmit to 5 million or 5.5 million consumers. The amount of money they make is absurd. They don't have to "cater" to the customer as Cable and D* are on the same wavelength. People NEED TV....They need a release at the end of the day. The providers know this and they profit by it. In the state of the US economy (ask any retailer how business has been this month) the providers should do what they can to help the American people by LOWERING prices, not raising them as we saw recently. And just a closing note as to why I think they are crooks.........E* can take a service call from a customer and instead of sending a work order (retailer referral) to the ORIGINAL installer (let's say for a defective receiver) they can send their team out to replace receiver and issue a chargeback to the ORIGINAL installer as the equipment originally installed was replaced. Oh, but if it's a bad SW21 switch 125 miles away they assign it to you and giva ya 20 bucks! Ain't that sweet?! They will even issue a $100 chargeback for non-compliance. E* covers their own as*es and gives a rats as* about morals or mutual respect for the little man (independant retailers) who have MUCH more to lose than the Satellite Pig. Don't mean to sound pissy on my first post, but I've seen too much.
Welcome to DBSTalk, prick!
well, at least you picked an appropriate screen name!
Sorry....... didn't mean to rant. Just kinda came pouring out, ya know. I really love the things E* has come up with in the tech field. Dish Pro + and dual tuner receivers are WAY above D*'s technology. And, as of yet, there is STILL no word from D* about what they are going to do about the "1 Dish" regulation for people receiving locals on a second dish. My guess is their locals will cease to exist for these unfortunate folks whose locals are pulled from 72.5, for example. Can't really elaborate, as I have been given NO information
D* locals have always been available with one dish. Only E* has/had locals split so that you needed two dishes to get all your local stations.
:biggthump :goodjob: :allthumbs That's the spirit.
You missunderstand the rule The local stations must all be on the same satellite. In other words D* couldn't put ABC/NBC/CBS on 72.5 and put FOX on 101, that would be a violation. Having the locals on 72.5 and basic programming on 101 is perfectly acceptable.
That is not now, nor has it recently been the case. Looking at the current locals chart on the D* website, I count at least 28 markets that "requires the use of a second 18-in DirecTV dish".
I don't mean to suggest that all of a market's channels cannot be received on a single dish, just that some require more than one dish to receive your TC package and your locals. This may change when they bring Spaceway 2 fully online.
Looking at the uplink activity, E* has moved an awful lot of locals to the standard Dish500 positions (110,119).
It should not be dismissed that E* offers more local markets than D* does.
Are you sure? The SHVERA says the following:
There may be additional, more specific conditions elsewhere.
They could immediately shut down every receiver that doesn't respond to repeated call-in requests or responds from the wrong telephone number.
This is the situation in the DC area. The analog locals are on 110/119. The HD Locals are on 61.5. 129 is not an option. Some of our "second Tier locals are not currently on 110/119 however if I tune to them they noww say they will be available soon.
I'm getting a 622 installed Monday and that install will retain my cirrent Dish 500 and add a second dish for 61.5 so I can receive my Sat HD locals.
Something occured to me about audits -- how would it work for vacation homes? (We have cable at our vacation home at the moment), but if we did have satellite at the beach house, the billing address and phone number would still be our permanent home's address (no dish there are the moment, either). Since we rent it out, we are only there once a year or so, so what could I do if they called the home number and demanded this information?
vacation homes are required to have a seperate account set up for it. You are not allowed to "shuttle" your receiver between you home and you vacation home.
Other than a special exception for Recreational Vehicles, the second home is treated as a different installation. "Cabin" installations are specifically prohibited by both D* and E*.
Renting a home with included satellite service (reselling) may be another touchy issue.
As others have posted, the accepted method is to have separate service for your vacation home. That way when you rent it out, those people could even have satellite service if they wanted to, and were willing to pay you for it, otherwise you could shut it down for when you are not there via the "Dish Pause" plan.