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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by phrelin, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

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    Then why is there so much opposition to Work It? Why is there complaining by different groups?

    Society is more accepting in every day lives, but not on network television. It is a fact that society is far more politically correct and hypersensitive than it was in the 1970s when All in the Family was on.

    I'm not going to use that word because it would be an incorrect use of it. It's called political correctness. Period.
     
  2. Drew2k

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    Discrimination and political correctness are two distinct very different things.

    One is rooted in hate.

    The other is rooted in a desire to not offend.

    Two very different things.
     
  3. Lord Vader

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    Except that political incorrectness goes beyond a desire to not offend. It's actually less of that than it is a desire to control what one says and does. It is contrary to the First Amendment and stifles speech and thought.
     
  4. Drew2k

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    Political incorrectness?

    My choice to carefully select my words and not use words I consider offensive to a group, what many call political correctness, to me is just common courtesy, and in no way infringes on anyone else's free speech right.
     
  5. RunnerFL

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    You're talking about a HANDFUL of people. Not millions as your "so much" comment implies.

    I still disagree with you.

    You may not use the word but what you are throwing around is pure discrimination.
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    Not always.
     
  7. Lord Vader

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    Oh it does, indeed. Political correctness is an attempt to control what others think. It's a form of power and control. Hell, even someone whom I otherwise don't particularly like, Bill Maher, has explained this rather well. His show once had this title.

    BTW, I am not talking about avoiding offensive words, like the "n" word to refer to blacks, or the "f" word to refer to gay people. There are words and labels that are purely offensive, and there are other words and terms that are simply considered politically incorrect by people (almost always a group of liberals) who relish the chance to control what others can think and say.

    No, I'm talking about a LOT of people.


    No it's not. Learn what the word "discrimination" means first, then come back and claim it's what I'm saying. The word requires actively practicing biased against one or more particulart groups of people. Just because someone calls an Asian a "chink" doesn't mean that person is discriminating against Asians, as insulting as that word may be.

    I'm 100 Polish. The word "Polack" is supposed to be a slang, derogatory term (the proper word being "Pole"). However, I'm not offended if someone calls me a Polack, and even if I was, it sure as hell isn't discrimination!

    The ability of some people to grasp the obvious is but one reason why there are so many ridiculously hypersensitive people in today's society.
     
  8. RunnerFL

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    In the grand scheme of things you're not. You may be talking thousands but that's nothing compared to millions.

    That's exactly what discrimination is... I'm done arguing though. Clearly your from a generation where that was tolerated.
     
  9. Drew2k

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    I cannot fathom that a racial nickname was even used in this thread. There is nothing more to say.
     
  10. Lord Vader

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    Hardly, but whatever you say. I can't discuss it with someone who lacks the basic comprehension of what a word's definition is. Like I said, go learn its definition, then come back and discuss it.

    Oh, brother! :rolleyes:

    Now one can't even quote an example of a certain type of derogatory speech to make a point? Thanks for proving my point about society being ridiculously, overly sensitive. :nono2::nono2:
     
  11. Drew2k

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    I'm not society - I'm an individual who sees no call for the word you used. You say I'm over sensitive and I could respond that you are insensitive, but this can go on forever so that would be a pointless exchange. I have my opinions, you have yours. Now I really have nothing left to say on this topic.
     
  12. Lord Vader

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    Thank God, because when one cannot explain something when intentionally illustrating a certain word's use, well, then society has plummeted into the depths of irreversible political correctness.

    Your type is the same type that complains about the use of the "n" word in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
     
  13. Davenlr

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    Guess you missed Rock Center tonight. Brian Williams not only did a story, but the interviewee did the whole end of the interview in drag. It was hilarious.
     
  14. Lord Vader

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    I actually caught part of that and laughed. Like I said, it's analogous to Gene Hackman wearing a dress in The Birdcage.

    Now, a show that featured an actual transvestite character? THAT would garner some complaints (not that I'd want it to, however).
     
  15. Drew2k

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    Fine. Let's continue the fun. :)

    First, you mean to say that you couldn't find a way to discuss this topic without using an offensive word? I think that says much more about you than me. I'm sure you can do better. ;)

    Next, you tend to generalize. You don't know me, or you'd know that I am a fan of Huck Finn and wouldn't change a word. This is also why I have no problem with All In the Family - it's a reflection of its times.

    Finally, your fears are necessary. The dinosaurs and bigots will die off and leave the land to the enlightened. :up:

    Enjoy your night! :D
     
  16. Lord Vader

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    I don't have a problem with All in the Family, either. When a person quotes someone, it's approriate to use the exact quote for accuracy and honesty, which is what I did when I used the word "chinks" and "Polack" to discuss Archie's bigotry, because those are the exact words he used, the latter when he often referred to his son-in-law, whom he also called "meathead."
     
  17. spartanstew

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    You were not discussing Archie's bigotry when you used the word "chink".
     
  18. Lord Vader

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    When I put it in quotes, it was because it was a word said on TV, by Archie Bunker, a word I used to illustrate a point, and a word that today would never be allowed to even get past the censors.
     
  19. spartanstew

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    So, even though nowhere else in your post did you even mention Archie Bunker, readers are supposed to know that because you used quotes, you must be talking about something he said? Really?

    And even though that same post never talked about TV or Censors, we're supposed to understand that you were talking about a term that might have been used on TV years ago, but wouldn't fly today?

    Do you even read what you post after you post it? Because clearly, whatever your brain is thinking is not being transferred to the keyboard.
     
  20. Lord Vader

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    Do you even read all of my posts, or just the ones you decide to selectively critique? Anybody with reading comprehension can see pages ago that I brought up the example of All in the Family and have been alluding to it since then. It serves as a classic example of a character who frequently used off-color remarks, bigoted language, etc. This illustrative theme has been consistently present in my line of discussion here. I can't help it if you [strike]can't[/strike] don't want to see that.
     

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