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Accessing Internal and External HD at the time (future plans?)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Bambler, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. Richierich

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    EXACTLY!!! It is on my Wishlist for sure!!!
     
  2. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    I'd prefer Ethernet to Sneakernet any day ...
     
  3. Mike Bertelson

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    I'm not sure I buy reliability as an issue.

    I've ran PCs and DVRs that combined multiple drives into a single volume with no problems. In both cases the devices ran for years with no problems.

    I would believe it causes reliability issues if it's not implemented correctly but in theory it should work seamlessly.

    Mike
     
  4. lucky13

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    At this point, I'd settle for a simpler way to switch drives than physically disconnecting or re-connecting the eSATA and rebooting.

    How about a misc option that allows you to select internal or external? The option could be visible only when an external drive is detected, or grayed out when one isn't detected.

    Would it be technically necessary for the dvr to reboot in order to switch drives?
     
  5. CJTE

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    For the record, eSATA isnt some special technology. If you take a look at the 'first look' posts, you'll see the SATA controller. There are 2 connections. One connection goes to the hard drive. The other goes to the back an adapter mounted to the back of the receiver. eSATA is just SATA with a different plug... Seriously. So, the controller has no way of actually knowing which, if any drive, is "external", it just see's SATA0 and SATA1

    Ehh, I think I'll go for a ride with Slim on this one. Because last time I checked Slim ended up coming back and talking about a Tivo HDDVR... So I think because it's technically possible, why not

    Well said, both of you. I was so wrapped up in the technicalities of it that I kinda tossed the idea of just mounting the drive in as an after thought and any recording to the drive be done once the internal is full.

    As mentioned earlier, no reason it really has to be RAID. If the firmware was setup to allow SATA1 to be mounted, instead of SATA1 bypassing SATA0...

    Me too!

    While that is a neat concept, it could never happen.
    The receiver doesnt know your account number. All it knows is the RID and the AC #.
    DirecTVs Distro center tells access card 00XX XXXX XXXX that its authorized for this programming. When the receiver gets all the programming, it sees that the access card it has is only authorized for certain programming and blocks the rest out.

    I suppose DirecTV could tag all their transmissions with all of the account numbers, but I wonder how much more bandwidth that would take?
     
  6. Richierich

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    Originally Posted by richierich
    "It would be Nice if they would use the User's Account Number rather than the Receiver ID so when they write the header on the recording it would contain the User Account Number and if your DVR failed you could just unplug your eSATA drive and replace the DVR and plug in the eSATA Drive and you would be back in business without losing any recordings."

    "While that is a neat concept, it could never happen.
    The receiver doesnt know your account number. All it knows is the RID and the AC #.
    DirecTVs Distro center tells access card 00XX XXXX XXXX that its authorized for this programming. When the receiver gets all the programming, it sees that the access card it has is only authorized for certain programming and blocks the rest out.

    I suppose DirecTV could tag all their transmissions with all of the account numbers, but I wonder how much more bandwidth that would take?"

    With all of the Expertise that Directv has this could definitely happen and actually from a programming standpoint could be very easy to implement if Directv wanted to enhance the customer's ability to use their eSATA Drives in other places or to be able to replace the DVR without losing the recordings stored on the eSATA Drive.

    After all there is quite a bit of information stored on the internal chip and this would require an infinitessimal amount of space to house the account number for what it's worth.
     
  7. GregLee

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    Well, we all know the old adage: A video frame is worth 10,000 account numbers.
     
  8. Skiman

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    Realize I'm coming late to this thread, but instead of all the complaints and beating up on DTV about why they won't do this or that and support every single possible external hard-drive configuration you can dream up, why not do the following instead:

    Replace the internal hard drive with a larger one!

    I swear, sometimes you guys just want to whine for the sake of whining. "I want it done MY way! MY way!" Sound like a bunch of spoiled brats. If you're all so smart, go work for DTV and show them how easy it is yourself.
     
  9. harsh

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    The most important reason not to do this is that in most cases, the DVR isn't yours to modify. Modding of leased receivers is expressly prohibited.
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    That's what MRV is for. And you don't have to move the drive. :)
     
  11. inkahauts

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    I personally thought they should have gone to a modular system.. where all receivers where without a HD, and then you can buy whatever size HD you want and add to it (in a similar chassis from Directv, kind of like the AM21) to get it to be a DVR...
     
  12. TomCat

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    Agreed. Probably the only reason we haven't heard more whiners is because they're too busy this week marching on Washington with the tea-baggers whining about the tax rates (although ironically, the tax rates are currently at a modern all-time low). Of course they want to use federally-funded highways to get there, state-funded parks to congregate in, and federally-funded internet and locally-funded libraries to do their scary research.
     
  13. HDTVsportsfan

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    No discussion of politics please. It's a sure way to get the thread closed.
     

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