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Activity at FCC concerning 61.5 operations

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  1. Feb 2, 2007 #1 of 13
    JohnH

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    From the Daily Digest:

    ECHOSTAR SATELLITE OPERATING CORPORATION. Granted EchoStar Satellite
    Operating Corporation special temporary authority to continue to operate
    its EchoStar 12 satellite on two unassigned channels --23 and 24 -- at
    the 61.5 degrees W.L. orbital location for a period of 60 days. Action
    by: Chief, International Bureau. Adopted: 02/01/2007 by Order
    Authorization. (DA No. 07-518). IB

    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-518A1.doc
    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-518A1.pdf
    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-518A1.txt


    EchoStar tells FCC it is launching a satellite capable of filling the needs at 61.5 later this year.

    FCC says tell us about it and the condition of EchoStar 3.

    From this order it does not appear that EchoStar has commited to actually send this new satellite to 61.5. :)
     
  2. Feb 2, 2007 #2 of 13
    James Long

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    True ... it does give a hint for E11. Perhaps they can move another satellite to 61.5° when E11 goes up (although the coverage pattern from 61.5° is nowhere near the coverage patterns from 110-119).
     
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    It would seem a waste to launch the E-11 satellite to 61.5 W especially if it has spotbeam capability but then again Dish appears to be wasting a great deal of spotbeam capability on E-7 at 119. Certainly Dish could move E-6 to 61.5 W and be able to provide the coverage and TPs needed today. Based on the restrictions the FCC placed on TPs 23 and 24 at 61.5 W, Dish could place some of the International Programming on those TPs that is already mirrored on 121 or 118.7 W or mirror it there just in case. There would not be a great deal of risk since I can't believe that Dish would lose use of those TPs for at least a year or two since nobody could get a DBS satellite there any sooner.
     
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    Those 2 Tps may not be enough at the rate E*3 is failing.

    You seem to be suggesting that requiring a new dish is an acceptable failure plan.
     
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    James Long

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    I have not looked at all the spots there, but since MY locals are on a spotbeam on E7 (a spot that was vacated when the old locals were moved to 110°) I won't say that it is completely a waste.

    There are spots that could be used on E8 (at 110°) that are no longer in use since E8 went ConUS only.
     
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    8. We will suspend these conditions, however, only until EchoStar begins operations on the replacement satellite at 61.5º W.L. Accordingly, we require EchoStar to file a report on the status of its replacement satellite within 30 days of the release of this Order. Further, we require EchoStar to file a report on the status of EchoStar 3’s operations on the same date.

    Looks like we'll found out pretty soon what E* plans to do about a replacement for E3, or at least what they SAY their plans are for it....
     
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    rocatman

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    In terms of the risk to Dish of losing use of TPs 23 and 24, yes having some subscribers have to have a new dish installed would be acceptable.
     
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    Mike D-CO5

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    IF Echostar 3 goes out and a replacement sat goes up in its place, what happens to SkyAngel sat services? I thought that the origional contract had Dish leasing space to Dominion for the life of that satellite: Echostar 3. Or is it that Dominion sat services is leasing to Dish the transponders that both Dish and Skyangel use? Anyone know the specifics of this arrangement?
     
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    James Long

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    I wonder what channels E* is referring to? We know that E* lost a few channels on 119° moving things around for the NPS lease. I don't recall anything being lost on 61.5°. :confused:

    As far as the eventual loss of TP23 and TP24, by the time another operator gets there E* should be able to shift things around and not lose any channels.
     
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    The contract ends when the satellite ends. SkyAngel would need to make other arrangements to broadcast their transponders and E* would need to vacate the TPs they have leased.

    Dominion Satellite is the corporate name that offers the Sky Angel service, just like Echostar is the corporation behind "Dish Network".
     
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    So if Dish launches another satellite to replace Echostar 3 do they get to keep the transponders they already leased from Dominion if they allow SkyAngel service to continue on the new satellite?
     
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    I'd say all bets are off. They may write a new contract that mirrors the old ... they may of for a rewrite. One thing for sure - If I were SkyAngel I'd be concerned that the next deal may not be as good as the last one.

    I have not heard anything on SkyAngel's satellite lately (the one that they were going to build that would serve the US and have coverage outside the US as well, pending foreign regulatory approval). Last year there was solid talk about SkyAngel getting their own uplink center ... I need to check on the status of that some day.
     
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    The only stations I remember being lost on 61.5 was Sport 470, and some Sky Angel programming... there was a TP failure but I think everything but the in house stations were brought back and shifted around, plus the Sky Angel loss was on Dominion's end if I remember...
     
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