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Adding a NonHD receiver

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by PtownBubba, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Jul 1, 2013 #1 of 19
    PtownBubba

    PtownBubba New Member

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    I have 3 HD receivers with the service/protection plan.
    In my ManCave I have one receiver,,, it is connected to an HD LCD TV,,, and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 3 other conventional TVS via a composite to RCA/analog converter,, then to AV switcher that has coax output,,, that coax feeds the other 3 conventional TVS,,,,,,,,, all works fine ,,but,,,,,,,,an electronics wires-n-coax-n-converter nightmare. To clean up the video control shelf,,,, could I just get an Ebay Receiver,,, STANDARD definition,,,,, then have DirectTV send a card or if it comes with a card,,, have it turned on in my name,,,,will there be additional fees for the added receiver,,,, if I own it , and it is NOT included in the service plan,, if so,, what like 10 bucks a month,,,,, ?
     
  2. Jul 1, 2013 #2 of 19
    jdspencer

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    Wouldn't adding another receiver further complicate your nightmare?
     
  3. Jul 1, 2013 #3 of 19
    dpeters11

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    Even owned, it have an additional tv fee.

    Also, are you in an MPEG4 market? I think several are in Illinois, and most SD boxes won't work with the locals.
     
  4. Jul 1, 2013 #4 of 19
    peds48

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    an extra receiver will be $6.00 a month
     
  5. Jul 1, 2013 #5 of 19
    PtownBubba

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    With the one receiver I have, H21-200,,, you can not use HDMI out,,,and then RCA/AV out to an AV-to-coax converter,,,,,,,,,,,,,, tried it,,,,, standard TVS will not get HBO,,, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, to get HBO on standard TVs [ HDMI TV must be on ] AND I had to go from Composite out,, to a Composite to A/V converter,,then convert the RCA-AV to coax,,,,,, even then I must have the HDMI TV 'on' or if it is off,,,, I get a message on the standard TV-s that TV does not support------ blah blah blah-----,,,,, when HDMI TV is on,,,, everything works,,,believe me I have tried several connections,,,, this is the only one that works,,,,,, to make everything work all the time,,,, Some how the HBO detects the HDMI connection,,, and HBO has some kind of blocking thing thing if HDMI connection is detected,,,, but not being used,,,,,,,,,the not supported message appears on standard TV,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I can not begin to understand that,,,, but that is sort of how it was explained to me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, any other channels work,,, but HBO sends up that message, if HD-HDMI TV is 'off' .

    But now get this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in the kitchen I have an H20-100,,, with that I use the HDMI out,,, for the HD TV,,, then RCA-AV out to a simple AV to coax converter,,, to run bedroom standard TV,,,,, that works no matter if HD tv is on or off,,,,,I tried to request DirectTV exchange my H-21,,,, for an H-20,,,, they said I could not request, a specific receiver,,,, and that DirectTV will supply a receiver for one TV,, any other TV would require an additional receiver,,,,, or the customer would have to configure that on their own,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so I did.


    Did not think about the local channel deal,,,,,, I did get locals on SD receivers, before I went HD, but had Two 18 dishes,then ,,,,, now I have One Slimline,,, with the 5LNB setup.....

    If the fee was say 5 bucks a month,,,, maybe,,,, much more than that,,,,,, I will stick with my wire/coax maze that looks like an alley in Bangkok.
     
  6. Jul 1, 2013 #6 of 19
    peds48

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    The H20 works because it was never updated to the HD GUI
     
  7. Jul 8, 2013 #7 of 19
    PtownBubba

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    Greetings again,,,,,

    I just went to my Direct-TV equipment page ,,,,,,it says I can upgrade to a DVR receiver ,,,,,for free,,,,,, and from that I can 'Genie' ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,up to 4 more TV's. I have no interest in the recording capability, but that just comes with the package,,,, so,,, it would appear I could replace my 3 present receivers,, with one HD DVR receiver, and 3 or 4 genies,,, this will allow all 3-to-4 TV-s to be tuned to any channel,,at any time,,,,, is that correct or is there more to it,,,, will this upgrade be more bang for $$$ ??????
     
  8. Jul 8, 2013 #8 of 19
    CCarncross

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    If it matters, a Genie can only provide service to itself and up to 3 other locations at the same time, so in theory that would cover your 3-4 tvs but be wary that it can only be up to 3 cleints simultaneously with a Genie as it can only provide 3 remote streams at one time.
     
  9. Jul 8, 2013 #9 of 19
    PtownBubba

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    yup it says this:

    An HD DVR Genie , with an additional Mini Genie for each TV,

    In a Genie Whole-Home HD DVR setup, you and your family can watch live or recorded programming on four separate TVs at the same time.

    I assume that also means all four can watch different programming ,,,,if not,,, then this is not for me.
     
  10. jporter12

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    Ok, so school me... I was under the impression that each Mini had a tuner in it, and therefore could watch live TV independent of the Genie (HR34 or 44) itself? It's not a deal breaker for me, since the most I'll be using would be 2 minis anytime in the near future.
     
  11. CCarncross

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    The Genie is on one tv, then you can have up to 3 other mini clients on other tvs watching simultaneously for 4 tvs. the clients dont have their own tuners, they each use a tuner from the Genie.
     
  12. peds48

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    Yes, you can watch independently from the Genie, but they use a tuner from the Genie as other have mentioned
     
  13. PtownBubba

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    Does simultaneously mean all must watch the same thing,,, since the clients have no individual tuners ?????? Or does the Master or main receivers have multiple built in tuners, that deliver to each client,, to allow different broadcasts on each of the TV-s????????????

    To add to the confusion,,,, I have a SamSung SMART TV,,,,,, so that means one less client.

    How is all this billed,,,,, I have 3 Receivers now,,,,, going with a Genie and 2 or 3 clients,,,, to keep three different broadcast options,,,, will there be any savings ?
     
  14. carl6

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    The Genie can send out (to clients) three feeds at the same time. The feed can be live viewing or a recording. A client is either a C31/C41 device or a Smart TV. The three feeds are independent of each other, not all the same thing. In addition, the TV connected directly to the Genie can view live or a recording. The Genie has five independent tuners which can be used for recording, or for viewing by either the local TV or by a client.

    Each client location is charged $6 per month whether it is a physical hardware box (C31/C41) or a smart TV.
     
  15. PtownBubba

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    So,,,, I guess, there is no savings/advantage switching from my 3 present stand-alone HD receivers, to the single receiver/mini-client setup,, since I have no DVR/TIVO desires,,, plus, I now have the option of still being able to view Satellite programming, if I would happen to have a receiver failure,,,,,,,
     
  16. jporter12

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    Thanks for clearing that up! I was under the impression that each Mini had a tuner in it! So with my setup only having a Genie and a single Mini, I'll only be at 5 tuners, so I could add another DVR and a HD receiver if I really wanted to.

    I'm going to search for this later, but will 2 Genies work together, on the same network, sharing programming via MRV? I'm due back to work from lunch or I would search it now!
     
  17. longrider

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    he answer to your last question is no. I dont know if there is a technical issue or just DirecTV policy but the limit is one Genie per account
     
  18. peds48

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    Just because you have a "smart TV" it does not necessarily means is RVU compatible
     
  19. CCarncross

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    Current policy is 1 Genie per account...they are not yet allowing more than one per account.
     

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