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AllVid (and it's impact on DirecTV)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. Diana C

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    If the DirecTV receiver distribution arrangement is a lease, then it has to have a fixed term...like leasing an apartment, or a car, or any other item. There may be a partial or full prepayment, but there is always an end point to a lease, at which time it either terminates (and the leased item is returned), is renegotiated, or renews.

    The only other option is an "open end lease" which is exactly how the cable companies rent you their equipment.

    But really, bottom line, as long as DirecTV maintains ownership of the receivers and we have to pay DirecTV for them, whether it is upfront or monthly, there is an added cost to having the service, beyond the service itself. As far as the spirit of the FCC initiative goes, that is no different than a cable company charging a monthly "rental fee."
     
  2. JoeTheDragon

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    why not make it rent to own?? like some Canada systems?
     
  3. Diana C

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    I didn't ask about the cost, I asked about the term. If I lease a car (as we have for over 2 decades) it is for a certain number of months. Likewise an apartment lease, or a software lease, or a heavy equipment lease, or any other kind of lease you want to name. The only lease type without a fixed time period is an open end lease...which is known as renting, and is exactly how cable companies distribute set top boxes.

    But as I said earlier, in the end the details are irrelevant. DirecTV owns the hardware, we pay them for the privledge of using it, and they are currently the only source for compatible hardware (which I know is theoretically changed if you happen to own a particular brand and model of TV and lease an HR34). This is the situation the FCC initiative tries to address by establishing open standards to allow interoperability between video sources and display terminals. If the HR34 (and similar future devices) can support RVU, then they can also support AllVid and any other standard (as was pointed out in the article by the Verizon spokesperson).

    In my opinion, DirecTV and Dish should both be held to the same standard as cable operators. If a single standard emerges, they should be required to support it on the same or similar terms set for cable.
     
  4. Shades228

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    So do you feel that cable DVR's are as innovative and feature rich as DIRECTV or DISH receivers? Even if other companies did make receivers it doesn't mean that either company has to share, or license, their patents to the companies. So we could have a bunch of receivers like the THR22 out there where they don't have features that are standard on the companies current receivers.

    There is nothing that has proven that cable cards have done anything to innovate that market. The extremely small % of cable card users is proof enough that it's not a market that companies feel are worth getting into.
     
  5. JoeTheDragon

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    but you can buy the hardware (with the same mirroring cost that the renting cost is)

    Now billing per RVU terminal may be a issue even more so if on cable the terms set for cable say no mirroring or outlet bs.
     
  6. JoeTheDragon

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    the cable co's the min to make cable card work as they made more by renting 5-6+ year old boxes.
     
  7. Shades228

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    Sure they make more money but if there was a financial gain to be had to make cable box's a company would. Tivo can't even get a real market share of cable card box's.

    Motorola could easily create a premium box and add features like WHDVR and everything else, but they don't because there's just not a profit in it. Most customers aren't bleeding edge customers and only really start using features because it's given to them not because it's available in the market.
     
  8. fireponcoal

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    Bleeding edge. Premium customer. Puke. Feel special yet?
     
  9. Shades228

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    I'm sure there was a point to your post but I doubt anyone other than yourself can understand it.
     
  10. Sixto

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