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Almost ready to take a 44. Any pros or cons appreciated.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. TheRatPatrol

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    That was the problem back then, with satellite and digital cable you had to have two boxes in order to use PIP, which could have meant 3 separate remotes, it was too hard to use, and the average person didn't understand nor want to mess with all of that. Now that its built into the receiver its much easier.

    I've been voting for a one button PIP on/off toggle since the Genie came out, but I guess its not that important to D* right now. Dash button or a press and hold the down arrow button, or move the PIP option to the far left in the info banner.

    One trick I learned when I was at my parents is to press INFO and then press and hold the RIGHT ARROW button to get it to move over faster.
     
  2. Mike Greer

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    Rich - I think you'll be happy with an HR44 but honestly by far the biggest thing to me and the reason I like using it so much is because so far the remote response is immediate and it is so much faster than my HR24s. I don't think you really care about those two things so you may very well be buying in so you're not left out! Don't get me wrong - that's a good enough reason - but I wouldn't expect too much.

    Did I mention when you push a button the HR44 responds immediately? :dance01: A 'tad' faster than an HR34? Ha! :sure:
     
  3. Rich

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    Actually, one of the gizmos I used (and gave away) would take a cable signal and use that for the second tuner. I then used the remote that came with the gizmo to watch TV with PIP. That remote controlled both inputs. The technology was there. It just took time to find it.

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  4. Rich

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    I've got the phone out in front of me and I'm about to make the call. They're gonna have to pony up more than a 44 to get me back in comittment, tho. I'll get back if this works.

    Rich
     
  5. Lord Vader

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    All this talk about using one's remote with the HR44--I use a Harmony One--reminded me to post this comment...

    My HR44 is the only DirecTV receiver that for some reason seems to require pressing a remote command twice in order to accomplish something. For example, if I press the Guide button on my Harmony One, nothing happens. If I quickly press it again, then the guide comes up on my HR44. If I press List or select or other such buttons/features, the same thing seems to happen. It's a bit annoying, if you ask me.

    I'm not saying that this happens to everyone who owns an HR44; rather, it's something prevalent with my own Genie.

    Note: My Harmony One is IR only. Consequently, my HR44 is set to IR control and not RF. Because the HR44 is alongside additional HD DVRs, I cannot use it in RF mode. I often wonder if this is the cause of my having to "double press" my remote buttons when using the HR44.
     
  6. mrdobolina

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    Free GenieGo as well? Can't hurt to ask, right? Unless you already have one...
     
  7. Rich

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    Got the 44 and the Genie go at no cost. Should be arriving Friday morning, with a tech, of course.

    Rich
     
  8. Rich

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    Well I'm getting the 44 and a GenieGo and got verification that if the 44 causes any problems with my MRV system I can give them both back to the tech and go back to being not under comittment. Needless to say, I'll be blaming you for any problems I have with them... :sure:

    Rich
     
  9. lugnutathome

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    I get you here. Though not always the case it seems sometimes the Harmony remotes need to be woke up before they send the IR signal. More so true of the One than my 880, or the 650s or 700s although all at times seem so encumbered. Reeeally splendid when coming out of trickplay from a commercial "marathon"..

    I find the One to be flashy, unpredictably responsive, and easy for unintentional activation/deactivation such I have to hide them when the cleaning lady comes in else I come home to systems on doing nothing.

    In this area the RC71 is a scorcher. Now if Direct TV had taken the layout of the 650/700 keypad ooh baby.

    Don "but they didn't so phfft" Bolton

     
  10. Lord Vader

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    My Harmony One does not exhibit this same, double-press issue on my other HD DVRs. This only occurs with my HR44. On the NR2Xs, the One works fine.
     
  11. carl6

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    Once the 44 is activated on your account, the corresponding commitment is enforce. I don't care what anyone tells you, you won't be able to back out of it. However, there is no reason the 44 should cause you any MRV problems.
     
  12. Rich

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    Which was one of the reasons I cancelled the order. Called late last night and just cancelled. I don't need it and I really don't want it. The more I thought about it, the less desirable it became.

    Rich
     
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  13. lugnutathome

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    OK, is the 44 set for RF? I realize it will also process IR at the same time but. . . Does it act the same regardless of IR/RF mode settings on the HR44? I run the RF for the little RC71 toy remote so if that has an effect on IR timing I should likely see your issue as well but other factors may be room reflectivity, light refraction from your monitor generating possible conflicts with the IR bursting.

    I dimly remember some adjustable Harmony settings I need to research (perhaps its just me smokin krak) but it may be possible to adjust the burst timing on the command set. Again, that's an obscure mental neuron and may be medication-ally induced. If I find something, or you note operational differences in the differing modes we should probably bust this as a new topic out in its own thread.

    Don "of all of my Harmony remotes the One model has been flaky" Bolton
     
  14. Lord Vader

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    No, it's set for IR.
     
  15. Lord Vader

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    Since we're on this subject, is it possible to use my One in an RF mode? If so, I imagine I'd need an IR to RF thingie of some sort.
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    I don't believe the Harmony One has the ability to use the Harmony RF extenders. In fact I'm sure it doesn't. The RF extenders only work with the 890, 900, 100 and 1100.

    The Harmony RF setup is RF from the remote to the RF extender. The extender then outputs IR.
     
  17. lugnutathome

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    Not with the RF used on the HR44 or C41 devices. Part of the move to the RC71 was to move to a new RF standard for going forward. Probably whay we are seeing solid signal close out pricing on the older model remotes these days.

    Don "the great thing about standards is that there are so many of them" Bolton

     
  18. Laxguy

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    That's in part cause you're more tech savvy than many.

    I almost never use PIP, prefer watching full screen and lots of FF. Can watch four or five games almost real time that way, but I usually do two or three.
     
  19. Laxguy

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    If you really want speed on channel changes, use IP for that. Get an iPad, or use Waltz49's web page for that.
     
  20. Rich

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    I called the Access Card folks and was assured that you're correct, just what I was worried about. They even read the notes from the Retention CSR about dropping my comittment if the 44 didn't work with my MRV system. Nothing mattered but what was written, apparently in stone, in the TOS. I then asked the ACT CSR what she thought I should do about this. She said I should have gone with the install and the tech would have known if the 44 would work with the MRV. I then asked her how he would know immediately. Oh, they know, she said. At that point, I thanked her and hung up. I've had too many installers/techs leave my home after assuring me that everything was fixed and ten minutes later having problems to believe that.

    The reason I'm worried about my MRV is that it is a cascaded setup using two SWM16s with one feeding the other. In series rather than parallel as D* now dictates. Unless someone with a similar cascaded system with 10 HRs on it can assure me that a 44 will not disrupt the MRV, I won't be comfortable with a 44 or its ilk.

    Rich
     

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