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ANOTHER rate increase!!

Discussion in 'Sirius XM General Discussion' started by ThomasM, May 29, 2009.

  1. ThomasM

    ThomasM RF Engineer

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    I voted my XM proxy statement AGAINST the merger while everyone on the blogs was touting the merger. Now they are all lamenting what happened to the programming and the rates. (Didn't that "ala carte" channel proposal sound great? Didn't that "keep the same rates for three years" sound good? HAH! Too bad both services have the same channels now and have found innovative ways to gouge the customers!)

    All I can say is thank God the government blocked the proposed DirecTV-Echostar (DISH network) merger several years ago!!!!
     
  2. djlong

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    I was against the merger because the receivers were not interoperable - so you would always have two separate encoding schemes, XM's and Sirius'. If this were not true, then we could have one 300-channel service instead of two almost identical 150 channel services.
     
  3. Paul Secic

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    I just bought an HD Radio. Who needs XM
     
  4. Grentz

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    FYI, it was not their choice...the RIAA/MPAA and Congress forced the fees upon them....

    They are still in compliance with their no rate increase promise as this is not a rate increase as much as it is a fee/tax placed upon them by a 3rd party.
     
  5. Uncle Freddy

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    The FCC authorized them to pass through cost increases. Their costs have increased by half a percent. For a family plan radio that works out to about $.05. Seems to me they are pocketing $.92 for this "pass through."
     
  6. djlong

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    HD Radio still has the commercials, playlists as shallow as a puddle and limited range.

    What this cost increase does for me is prompt me into deactivating my least-used radio.
     
  7. Richard King

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    I tried to find a link stating the changes that they had to pay and was unable to do so. Do you have a link? The only thing that I found was contract terms that were not due to change for a few years.
     
  8. Grentz

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  9. Grentz

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    I honestly doubt it, and the fees are way more complicated than just "O, it raised half a percent, pass that through". Music royalty fees are extremely intricate and complex, especially for big broadcast companies.
     
  10. Uncle Freddy

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    The past two years, they were paying 6% of gross revenues as their royalty rate. This year it went up to 6.5%, next year 7%, 7.5% in 2011, and 8% in 2012 when the rates expire (though I'm sure they will maintain at least that rate moving forward).

    It's really not all that complicated.

    http://www.businessdose.com/economy/copyright_royalty_board_sets_rat/
     
  11. Richard King

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    Thanks for the links. I wish the first one had a date attached to it. It states that the fees got through committee, but sent it to the house for a full vote. I assume that it passed the full house vote.
     
  12. xmguy

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    This is the reason I'll be dropping my Online access. To off set the increase of the radios. I as well as many others are on a tight monthly budget and can't afford another high charge. XM COULD charge the required 6% but NO they are charging the HIGH 15%..
     
  13. ehilbert1

    ehilbert1 Godfather

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    HD radio is the biggest joke out there. Like you said commercials and crap radio. Plus you sure as hell can't listen to you favorite stations from coast to coast. Truckers love their satellite radio for that very reason and there are a lot of truckers that have SiriusXM.
     
  14. Grentz

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    Looks like from the URL that it is 5/13/09.
     
  15. Richard King

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    Ah... which makes me wonder if they are being pre-emptive with the increase. I assume it did pass committee and the full house.
     
  16. reddice

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    I am finding that internet radio is blowing away the crappy Sirius XM. I paid for the year but when my year is up in October I will most likely be canceling. BYW I don't listen to Slacker, Pandora etc. I have other internet radio streams I pay for and some free ones I listen to.
     
  17. bejohn2

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    Just got my notice from Sirius today and the price for the "U.S. Music Royalty Fee" is $1.98 per month for primary subscriptions and $.97 per month for multi receiver subscriptions.
     
  18. Hoxxx

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    I agree. At one time I was paying for 5 radios I am now down to two and that could change to zero. there is more and more choices to listen to stuff at home or in the car.
     
  19. Lord Vader

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    And here's the text of the Email I received yesterday in case anyone's too lazy to click Ken's link:


     

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