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Another slow VOD download thread

Discussion in 'Service - DIRECTV On Demand CE Versions' started by veryoldschool, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. dervari

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    Do you have a router or switch with the ability for SNMP monitoring? That may help trace down your issues.
     
  2. NR4P

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    The INFO screen times are definitely an issue where the firmware is not reporting the actual times. It reported the time of the movie as the d/l start/stop time. Coincidence? Don't know. But it was off by at least 5 hours.

    But I've been downloading since the very first day of DoD when released as a CE. Nothing has changed on my end. As to the speed decrease, it may or may not be related to the CE or since Directv has opened this up to the whole HR20-700 universe, it could be their servers and associated output capacity are being stretched.

    There's also the possibility that my DSL provider is doing some limiting. That would be unusual, particularly overnight.

    But what I can test is the over d/l speed and it's been 1.2mbps nearly forever. I'm not familiar with SNMP monitoring but always willing to learn.
     
  3. meller

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    Hi,

    I am also experiencing slow download times. I have a comcast 8 MB connection with my HR20-700 plugged directly into a DLink 655 gigabyte router and it still took around 4 to 5 minutes to d/l a 8 minute music video. Speed test show my connection sometimes running at up to 10 Mbs. you would think I would see much faster D/ls at that speed.

    BTW, how can I get to participate in the remote booking beta?

    Thanks,

    mark
     
  4. veryoldschool

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    One hour of SD programing has been measured at 1.6+ gigs.
    Cable modems, unlike DSL modems, "time share" with the other users on the node [neighbors]. My "normal" bandwidth seems to be only 80% of the time [speed is always testing full, but they only give it to me 80% of the time]. The worst I've seen is less than 10% of the time during the past three day weekend, when "everybody was home" and using the computers.
    D* seems to limit "their end" to 7 Mb/s, so even if you have a faster connection, 100% of the time, it seems 2:1 [min of programing/min of download time] is all you'll get.
    Anything over 1:1 will give you "On Demand", so there isn't much [any] need, as a user, for anything faster.
    When HD programing becomes available, this may change.
    Until then, a 3 Mb/s connection, 100% of the time, "should give you" a 1:1 download depending on the variations in size of each program [as I've seen movies finish 10-15 min early].
    Cable modems time share, so "YMMV" depending on system load.
    My DSL modem doesn't show this time sharing.
     
  5. michaelyork29

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    These download speeds are pretty pathetic...mine's just as bad as the rest, if not worse... :(

    I thought Limelight was crazy fast?!?!?

    Anyways, congrats on numero 10,000 VOS.. :)
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    Thanks, The Shadow started a thread here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=106353

    Limelight may be "crazy fast", but "our" ISP needs to not "time share" our connection.
     
  7. walker

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    i'm also experiencing pretty unbearable download times. i have 8mg dsl and it is lightning fast in every other area, but the dod. i've basically only tested everything to make sure it works b/c i really can't justify waiting 2hrs for a 30 min show to download. i might as well just wait until it comes on the next time and tivo or watch it live. i understand how the internet works, so there is no need to repeat how data is transferred. i realize that directv can't control how quickly our isp gets the data to our house or how we may be slowing our speeds down ourselves with whatever setup we may have, but i've played around with enough different setups to really get the impression that there is something going on with the speed at which my hr20-700 can actually process the data it is receiving. in the same way that directv can only give you speeds up to what your isp is sending, has anyone looked at this issue in reverse? i'm just throwing ideas out, so please no one jump on me about this........it seems to me that no matter how fast our isp can get our data to us, won't the speed max out at what speed the receiver can actually process the data?
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    When I only had one connection to try, I had a similar "mind set". Since the DVR can handle much faster data from the SAT, I doubt your problem is with the DVR.
    Since I started this thread, I've read a posting from someone with DSL [testing 4.5 Mb/s] that had the same long download time of my cable modem.
    "I'd bet" if you had another ISP connection, you would have the speed you should.
    In my testing, I was able to swap connections in the middle of a download and the speed came right back, so it proved "to me" that it wasn't the DVR or the server on the other end.
    D* uses limelight as does Microsoft, so some ISPs may have "choked" feeds from them to keep from overloading their system.
    My DSL ISP offers VOD so they haven't "choked" my connection like my cable ISP has clearly done.
     
  9. walker

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    thanks. i understand what you are saying and i only have one connection that is incoming to test, so i'm stuck there. however, i use this same connection to download a LOT of data from many different places enough to know that my isp isn't chokig their bandwith, at least to anything i've used in the past. i also haven't heard of my isp choking bandwith, at least in my area.....be**south or a**t (whatever their name is now). you may very well be correct, but from my personal experience with this connection, either they just started choking bandwith or they really pick odd thinks to block.........like not blocking p2p sharing software or data streams, but blocking a stream from a source that in actuality they shouldn't even knows exists yet.......just my 2 cents....
     
  10. veryoldschool

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    I have no more than "my two cents" too.
    Video downloads are really taxing ISP systems and showing up their weaknesses.
    As to your: "a source that in actuality they shouldn't even knows exists yet".
    The XBox can download HD video, so I'm sure an ISP has already "learned" about limelight before VOD.
    Changing ISPs has been "night and day" for me. My cable is over taxed [for some time now with "normal" downloads] and the DSL hasn't slowed my VOD in the three weeks I've had it.
     
  11. veryoldschool

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    I was surprised at the time it took for an HD VOD.
    I'd expected it to take a lot longer than the 0.5:1 that it did.
    This is only about three times longer than SD VOD.
     
  12. RAD

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    Dripping...
    How are you folks finding this? When I do High-Def then all on ch 1000 it shows nothing. If I search for Evan Almighty I don't see a HD DoD entery, just something on a PPV channel.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    I looked under HD and found Evan Almighty @ $0.00, so I clicked on it.
     
  14. RAD

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    Dripping...
    On my ch 1000 it still shows no HD at all. I did find it finally by searching on the title and it came back with 3 different entries, the 3rd was the HD DoD version, give it a shot now. Thanks.
     
  15. WWF

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    My downloads on my HR21 appear to be average, here's the bandwidth Even Almighty in HD was being received on my 8Mb Wired connection

    (I had to attach the bandwidth shot because I can't post pic's until I have five posts, sorry I just joined)
     

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