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Any news on a FTM capable SD DVR (an R16?)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jwd45244, Mar 8, 2007.

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  1. Mar 8, 2007 #1 of 46
    jwd45244

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    If this is off topic please feel free to move this. Has anyone heard anything about an FTM-capable SD DVR? If no, I would expect the following to happen:

    SD Receiver - D12
    HD Receiver - H20
    DVR - HR20

    Does anyone have real information to share on this?
     
  2. Mar 8, 2007 #2 of 46
    Earl Bonovich

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    As of today... there is no definitive word on one.
    Other then there will be one.

    I do not know of any estimates on when it may be available to the market.
     
  3. Aug 4, 2007 #3 of 46
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    any new info ?
     
  4. Aug 4, 2007 #4 of 46
    Earl Bonovich

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    Other then yes, there will be an R16, and it will be SWM compatible.

    But there are no dates on when it may start field trials, availability for consumers, or what other differences it will have from the R15
     
  5. Aug 5, 2007 #5 of 46
    sgnhaf

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    well it is in internal testing, when field testing ?
     
  6. Aug 6, 2007 #6 of 46
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    will it be MPEG4 compatible? I think at some point their SD lineup would change to this format/compression.
     
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    Neither.
     
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    Not sure... but highly doubtfull...
    They have no plans right now to convert SD to MPEG-4...
     
  9. Aug 6, 2007 #9 of 46
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    I'm betting that the new SD to AK and HI are both Ka and MPEG4. It may begin sooner than you think and the carrot will be subchannel access.
     
  10. Earl Bonovich

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    As with 99% of everything else in the United States... AK and HI are always special cases...

    Just because those two particular areas have to use the Ka space... is not an indicator that DirecTV is willing to replace 40+ million, non-mepg4 SD receivers.

    So yes... I think it is going to be a VERY VERY long time...
    And I do see MPEG-4 decoders being in the R16... as if they were... then really... what is the difference between the "R16" and an HR20?
     
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    Putting MPEG4 decoders into the R16 would not an HR20 make. :) There are still lots of HD output shaping bits required to make an HR20.

    Cheers,
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  12. Earl Bonovich

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    Well yes.. you would still need all the output pieces..

    But if you include the advanced tuners... the MPEG-4 Decoder chip, and the video chipset to down-res the higher resolutions...

    You are really only missing the output chipsets and connectors.

    Woudl that minor savings cost, be offset by the increased cost of maintaining another hardware platform (both technically and via the CSR support tier)
     
  13. Tom Robertson

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    But Earl, they do all these differences in the MPEG2 world today. HR10 vs R10 for instance. Making an MPEG4 SD receiver would not necessarily include receiving HD MPEG4 content, just as making an SD MPEG2 receiver does not give one access to the HD MPEG2 content.

    All that said, I really don't think there will be too many SD models to come. The cost differential will continue to fall and the interest in SD only will fall even faster. :)

    Cheers,
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    I said "it is", not "is it" .. I know for a fact the r16 is in beta tests internally now, and that is a good thing
     
  15. Earl Bonovich

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    Well if it is... great... but from every piece of information that I have...
    It is not, as of today, in any testing program...

    Maybe development testing, but that is not the same as a beta test trial.
     
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    I only asked about mpeg4 compatiability because I understand D* not wanting to replace 40 million mpeg2 boxes at one time but by incorporating it into new boxes they won't need to replace 80 million mpeg2 boxes, and would put them years closer to a switch over that would result in better SD PQ and more channel offerings.
     
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    "test" is not the word for it, internal evaluation committee I belive is the venacular they are using now, unless it has changed recently.
     
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    True, get the boxes replaced now before we have millions more, which would cost even more, and not use the natural progression of upgrades (on customers own) ordying units, that would take too long.

    Perhaps besides the deals being cut for mpeg4 boxes, allow customers make payments montly on their bills, this way mpeg4 conversion can be greatly speeded up
     
  19. Earl Bonovich

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    Then that is DRASTICALLY different, then "internal testing".

    That is the same as someone looking at some initial prototypes of a product, before they move to the next phase of development.
     
  20. Earl Bonovich

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    You can speed it up as much as you want...
    But the truth of the matter is... there are no plans at this time to move SD to MPEG-4.... So if there was, the newest hardware today, will be outdated by the time it is done (5-10 years or even more from now)
     
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