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Apple event: 3-7-2012

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Chris Blount, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. Alan Gordon

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    Good point... I rarely think about things like that.

    However, I guess I should clarify. What I meant was that I thought it was interesting that AT&T touted their sales numbers, but Verizon's response was double-speak for "Ehh..." :lol:

    ~Alan
     
  2. mutelight

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    I only noticed the "64GB" and "4G" on the box for mine. I don't have the box in front of me but where is the labeling?
     
  3. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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  4. mutelight

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    Ah, I see what you are referencing. I was referring to the grey lettering in the squares on the left label on my Verizon box.

    (Obviously an older model but you get the idea.)
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Steve

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    If your old Apple "smart cover" is not working properly on the new iPad, Macrumors says the Apple store will exchange it for a new one.

    http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/22/...y-on-new-ipad/
     
  6. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    I'm not concerned about the heat, just the charging time. Based on the battery rating (new iPad’s battery is 11,666 mAh*) and the charger rating (~2100mAh) it SHOULD take around 6hrs from full discharge to charge (11,666/2100=~5.555 hrs). I intentionally ran mine down to zero where it shut off at 11:45PM last night and this morning at 7AM it was only 58% charged. It just finished charging (well, it showed 100%) about 5 minutes ago at 2:40PM. That's almost 15 hrs! I'm using the included charger and cable and it was powered down while charging. Had no power outages overnight either.

    I'm going to fully discharge it and try it again.

    * http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/03/tests-show-the-new-ipad-battery-almost-as-good-as-predecessor
     
  7. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    There is definitely something wrong. If that happens again you might want to call Apple or take it to the genius bar.
     
  8. Steve

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    I just skimmed some iPad forums about charging, and I'm seeing reports of 5.5 to 8 hours for a full charge, depending on whether or not the unit is asleep while charging and whether or not this is the first time the unit has been charged/discharged before.

    I no longer have my iPad 3, but when I did last week-end, I purposely ran down to 0% by Sunday morning and it took ~ 6:30 to get back to 100%. Now I know there are reports that the iPad continues to charge after it says it's at 100%, but Apple clearly states the following on the iPad "Battery Charging tips" page, which I believe hasn't been updated since the iPad 2: "For proper reporting of the battery’s state of charge, be sure to go through at least one charge cycle per month (charging the battery to 100% and then completely running it down)."
     
  9. Steve

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    I'm temporarily back using an iPad2 because as much as I love that retina display, I bought a $700 64GB and I'm not planning to watch 1080p movies on it, so I'm not sure that the beautifully sharp type alone is worth $250 more for me ATM than a new 32GB iPad2, which I was able to pick up for $449 this week.

    If I was a 3G user and needed LTE, I would definitely stick with the 3. If it had full-blown Siri, I might also have stuck with it. I'm still waffling, though. I have about 12 days to return the iPad2 if I decide I do want to go back to an iPad3, or just wait for the 4.
     
  10. TBlazer07

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    Yea, that's my plan. Doing another round now. I have had it at full brightness on solid white screen for around 5hrs so far discharging it and I am only down the 59%. Battery sure does last.

    8 sounds quite high unless maybe the screen was on or the person was using it. According to Mr Ohm and family and their laws it shouldn't take more than 6 but I'd even give it 7 and not complain because of so many possible variables.
     
  11. TBlazer07

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    Turns out it was the cable. I thought I was using the original cable but I was using a 6' "3rd party" sync cable that worked 100% fine on the iPad 2. It's length must create some sort of resistance and reduce charging current. Not sure why it was fine on the iPad 2 though.
     
  12. dennisj00

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    Makes sense. Some of the third-party accessories are junk. The iPad2 has a 25 watt-hour battery and the new iPad is 42.5 - not quite double - 70% bigger.

    So the white cube has to either supply twice the amps (doutful) or it's near twice the time to charge. It's rated at 10 watts if I remember (twice the iPhone charger). It should do the trick in 4.5 hours, but it's probably struggling to put out 10 watts - maybe 8, which is closer to Steve's 6.5 hours.

    Choke that down with a thin longer pair of wires and you're easily looking at 12+ hours.
     
  13. TBlazer07

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    iPad 2 and 3 both charge at the same rate and the chargers are both 10 watts. The "new" iPad does take around 2x longer to charge which makes sense. The current draw from the charger has been tested on both iPads and they are the same. Since the 3rd party cable I have still works fine on the iPad 2 it should logically be the same on the 3 but instead it takes at least twice as long as the included cable. That's what I can't understand.

    Tonight I am going to try a 6' USB extender cable on the stock Apple cable and see what happens, The extender cables use much heavier wires than either the Apple cable or the 3rd party cable. I really need an extra 3 or 4 feet.
     
  14. Steve

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    Doesn't mention the gauge, but this 6' Monoprice cable looks pretty thick. They've also got one that's 10'.

    Connector shield looks thicker than the stock Apple cable, tho, so depending on your case...
     
  15. hdtvfan0001

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    While the reasons may vary...you are not alone:

    http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-3-forum/69027-returned-new-ipad-wifi-64-gig-ipad-2-new-ipad-too-hot-too-heavy-2.html
     
  16. dmspen

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    The battery is bigger.
    42.5 watt-hr vs 25 watt-hr. With the same charger it will take 1.7 times longer to charge from a depleted state.
     
  17. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    I have ran into this as well. There are some cables that just don't work well for charging the iPad.
     
  18. Steve

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    A couple are obvious, but worth a read, because it reminded me about about notifications, locations services and push e-mail. I knew about them, but forgot to disable them on my iPad.

    As I posted elsewhere, c|net measured 12.8 hours movie playback on the new iPad, and 14.1 hours on the iPad2. I wonder if they had location, notifications and push e-mail on or off?
     
  19. Chris Blount

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    Those are good tips and I can see using them if you know you won't be able to charge the iPad for a long period of time.

    Personally I don't see the point in turning some of that stuff off during normal use. I purchased the iPad to get those features and turning them off kind of defeats the purpose.
     
  20. TBlazer07

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    Looks like a good idea, thanks, I'm going to order it.

    BTW, I have been reading there have been so many iPad 3 returns (between the scalpers and people switching memory sizes and/or LTE providers) that some of the Apple stores are selling open box 16GB WI-FI models for $450. Unverified, but I read it on the Internet so it must be true.

    The scalpers really took it up the wazoo this time. I have to admit, I got an extra one to flip but returned it. Actually I hadn't decided between ATT & Verizon so I got both and returned the ATT based on the fact that ATT sim also works on the VZW one (without LTE) but ATT 10MBps+ HSPA+ is good enough for me on the VZW one when there is no VZW LTE available.
     

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