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Apt Neighbor wants to tap in

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by JLucPicard, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Just speaking in general, aged one.
     
  2. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    The splitters will be fine outside as long as they are weaterproofed. ie, weather boots, drip loops, good fittings, maybe even some dielectric grease for good measure.
     
  3. gfrang

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    It sounds to me like the landlord want's it more than the tenant. Why would your neighbor care D* will give him a free dish away? If the landlord don't want 50 million dishes on the roof tell him to get a MDU installed.
     
  4. JLucPicard

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    That's why my neighbor cares.
     
  5. boba

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    The one point that hasn't been addressed is ownership of the dish. If you move do you leave the dish behind for the neighbor?
     
  6. Lee L

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    That is exactly what I was thinking.

    If you do Movers connection, they will install a new dish at your new place for you so you can leave it behind, but will the landlord and the next tenant be OK with that?

    Probably best to address this contingency now and get somethign in writing from the landlord about it for yours and the other tenants sake.
     
  7. David MacLeod

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    not saying its good or bad idea, just questioning.
    I wonder if once you allow it for one would the dish then be expected to be used for more people.
    what if you ever want to upgrade to swm, what then?
     
  8. gfrang

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    Yea because the landlord don't want 50 million dishes on the roof.:D
     
  9. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Seems like with 6 HD DVRs and a WB616, it wouldn't be an issue, as the WB616 would need to be swapped with the upcoming SWiM16.
     
  10. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    in an MDU the "physical dish" has absolutely no bearing on anything other then all the switches, splitters and/or swm's hanging off it. The "dish" isn't setup as an account, each separate unit is just as if they were individual private dishes on a private home. Even in the case of BULK properties where every unit is a sub each customer still has their own account whether they have 1, 10 or 1000 dishes serving the entire property. It all depends on the existing infrastructure and subscription penetration. An mdu type property will be REGISTERED with DirecTV but # number of dishes doesn't matter (except to the sysop).


     
  11. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    No. In an mdu situation SWMs are more often then not shared between units mainly to keep expense down especially on very large properties. As more are needed they are added. This does create a problem though because when customers "self install" (which they are not "supposed" to do under most mdu contracts) they can easily knock other units receivers off the system. This became an issue for mdu's as they switched to MFH2 as they tried keeping their costs down by sharing swms but created more service visits due to "educated" customers.
     
  12. HRJustin

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    depending on how many receivers the neighbor is getting they might even get SWM right off from the beginning. Would amps be required for a powered SWM8 and a powered WB616?

    seems to me it would be easy to just use 4 power passing splitters to split the LNB feeds to the two switches for each dwelling.
     
  13. HRJustin

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    Ive always wondered what they do with an SWM8 in an MDU situation where the subscriber only has one receiver. So at the most they are only using two tuners. I just couldn't see them just wasting the other 6 tuners on that SWM8. :lol:
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    On the SWiM side, it has an AGC, so there is some gain there.
    On the WB616, there isn't any gain, and splitting would cause ~ a 5 dB drop in signal. This could be offset with an amp.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    If "the issue" is networking over coax, it isn't an issue with the bandstop filter used at the POE.
     
  16. HRJustin

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    Since both switches are powered would the 4 splitters need to be dual power passing? I assume not as long as the LNB gets power from somewhere.
     
  17. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    With both powered, the options can be: one leg power passing, both legs power passing, or what I prefer power "steering" as with the Skywalker line, since if one switch loses power, the other will still drive the dish.
     
  18. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    I would agree with power steering. That way either customer alone could power the dish and provide all 4 voltage/tone combinations. If either is dependent upon the other's power, future problems are almost certain.
     
  19. HRJustin

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    I thought that would be a problem but then I thought about them being in an apartment building. So I would think that if one loses power the other would to. :lol:
     
  20. JohnVT

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    Unless the receiver providing the power is unplugged, to move it or adjust the setup or whatever, and the other party loses the signal during the climactic ending of the World Series, or SuperBowl, or romantic movie, ... :eek2:
     

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