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Are any receivers responsive?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by stroh, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. lparsons21

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    I almost never watch anything live so the interactive channels don't really come into play for me. But yet I still get the slowness at times, and of course, the more often than it should remote ignoring.

    In the end, I usually go to channel 1 for awhile once a week to keep things as peppy as they seem to ever be.
     
  2. veryoldschool

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    I've asked from the beginning to have the option to turn scoreguide off/on, but it doesn't seem to get any traction.

    "It would be nice" if it would be modified so it only comes up when you first tune to the channel, where you can press exit and be done with it, instead of it ALWAYS returning if you do things like look at the guide or playlist and then come back to live TV.
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    So you're saying you never watch sports channels with scoreguide, or find one on the TV when you exit a recording?
     
  4. lparsons21

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    Well, I won't say never, but it is very seldom. Typically I watch ESPN2 when they have boxing on. Any of the other ESPNs only get watched for some major golf events like the Masters. But even then I'm usually watching recordings.

    And no, I've not found one on the TV when I exit a recording, or at least if I have it has been long enough ago not to remember.

    Basically here's the scenario. When switching channels, I most often get decent response and change times. On some occasions, at least a few times a week, I will get some additional slowness which is cured with a switch to channel 1.

    On some, but not all occasions of deleting or stopping a playback, I get the 'please wait' for 30 seconds or longer. Nothing I do changes that. It just happens and I just wait.

    My setup isn't prime for speed as I like certain functions. I have Native set to ON and 480i/p-720p-1080i/p selected for resolutions. And I know this has an effect of channel change speed, but letting my AVR do the de-interlacing and upscaling gives me a better picture. I see that as a trade-off that isn't a problem for me.
     
  5. Laxguy

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    Just realized why I seldom see the dialog re the Red Key: I watch almost everything recorded, even if it's just a second behind live. Another benefit: I've not lost a buffer in years that I've cared about.
    Agree it can be annoying when it pops up and has to be dismissed, but I usually actually review it when it does pop up- NCAA FB and Pro FB. Hockey last year, some golf, tennis and soccer from time to time.
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    SpeedTV, ESPN, and sometimes TNT are those with scoreguide "that I've seen".

    If going to channel one does help, the most plausible reason to date is it's due to the interactive app.

    Channel changing and using native on, isn't going to change by going to channel one.
    "Please wait" for deleting recordings and MRV can also be something else.

    "I tend to think" you're tuning to more scoreguide channels than you think.
     
  7. jimmie57

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    the Golf Channel 218 also has it the scoreguide button.
     
  8. jimmie57

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    Along with the Scoreguide, is the "Active" button possibly causing the same problem ?

    Thanks
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    It would have you on an "interactive" channel, so I figure it would, though I never use it.
     
  10. lparsons21

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    If I watched live events really 'live', then I wouldn't disagree. But I can't tell you the last time I watched a live sports event 'live', all were recorded and played back on my schedule. That shouldn't cause the interactive stuff to be an issue. But then, maybe it does even if you just record a show that has the interactive stuff available???

    The only thing I watch live is during the day watching some incessant rerun of something just for noise in the house. All my actual pay-attention viewing is from recordings.

    And yes I'm very aware that Native ON the way I have it set has a negative effect on speed that isn't going to be affected by going to channel 1. But when things get slower than my 'normal', going there does help.
     
  11. jimmie57

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    Have you tried unchecking the 480 resoolution and just have the 720p and 1080i checked. I have mine set this way with Native ON. It appeared to me that the 480 caused a noticeable slowdown when changing channels compared to just having the 720 and 1080 checked.
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    The recordings don't have it, but to record a tuner must tune to them, so if this is the "live tuner" [what you would see for live TV], then it seems that the DVR would have the scoreguide active.

    Let me try this another way:

    I park my DVR on my local NBC most of the time. Sometimes I turn it on and it's on another channel because a recording needed the tuner. Since it's buffering all the time, this channel has been tuned to since the end of the recording, and if this was a scoreguide channel, it seems it would have been on the whole time.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    If you're using another scaler for better PQ, you really want to have 480 being sent to it, as it needs the most help.

    I just rechecked my tune times between 480, 1080, & 720, and they're about 3 secs.

    I can't go into the how or why, but it is a sign of things to come and a good thing too.
     
  14. lparsons21

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    I have mine set the way I do because there are some SD shows I really enjoy. My Denon 2113ci AVR does a MUCH better job of de-interlacing and upscaling the 480i on those SD shows which makes them enjoyable even if not HD.

    And it also does a better job of upscaling the 720p and 1080i than does the TV itself.

    So yes, I could do that and probably get a little better speed but at the expense of not really enjoying those few SD shows I like. For me, the speed difference isn't enough to matter.

    Only when it slows down beyond that 'normal' speed does it make a difference.
     
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    Unless I misunderstand, you think that even if I'm recording on a tuner that is tuned to a channel that has the interactive stuff, it is affecting the performance of the DVR? It does seem that way IF the interactive stuff is the culprit.
     
  16. veryoldschool

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    That's "what I'm thinking".
     
  17. jimmie57

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    I have no SD channels in my favorites list.
    I do not think I have watched a 480 program since I upgraded to HD over 3 years ago ( except on my R15 I had in the bedroom, that was upgraded to an HR24 in June of this year ).
     
  18. veryoldschool

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    Then you don't need it, but for some of us, there are still SD channels with good programing.
     
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    Posters are now listing 0x62C software down loaded on their HR24s last night.
    Maybe this is it.
     
  20. lparsons21

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    Yes there are!

    Bomb Girls, XIII, Beauty & the Beast, Arrow and a slew of others that are not in HD on D* yet.

    Actually in my case B&B and Arrow are on the CW local channel that is a very bit starved SD sub-channel of one of the others. Nothing D* can do about that.
     

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