I scheduled an install at my summer cabin. When the two guys showed up, they took one look and said, "it won't work, too many trees". I showed them two additional sites and got the same answer. They left without even trying to install. I found a used receiver, SONY B55, 2001 model, and a used 3 LNB dish. I installed it in one of the two sites and got over 80% on all transponders. I don't know how DTV pays their installers, but I believe thay get paid if they go on an install and find any acceptible excuse not to do it. If so, in this case, they got paid for not doing an install that they could have done. Oh Yea! I called DTV and was told that the receiver could not be activated because it was so old. I would have to go through the entire process of getting a new install. I decided to go with DISH.