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Are you experiencing signal strength drops on Satellite 129?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Rob Glasser, Feb 25, 2006.

Are you expierencing signal strength drops on satellite 129?

  1. Yes - I am seeing signal drops, and it is causing me to lose signal lock

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  2. Yes - I am seeing signal drops, but it is not causing me to lose signal lock

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  3. No - I am not seeing any signal drops

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  1. Feb 25, 2006 #1 of 125
    Rob Glasser

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    Just wanted to start a poll to see how many people with a Dish1000 or a Dish500/300 pointed at 129 are seeing signal drops for apparently no reason?

    This may or may not result in you losing lock. A lot of people, myself included are seeing signal drops up to 30 points every 45 minutes or so.

    In my case, my normal strength is not enough to retain lock so I loose the signal when this happens. Other people seem to have enough signal that when the drop happens it doesn't cause signal loss. If you have a dish pointing at 129 and have the time, please go the point dish screen and watch it for a while and see if you see a signal drop. and report.

    Please post your configuration and location if possible as well. Trying to figure out how big this problem is.

    Thank you
     
  2. Feb 26, 2006 #2 of 125
    grover45

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    I have been having dropouts on transponder 30 on satellite 129. I have emailed dishnetwork twice with this question about this problem, with no replies. I'm in the Seattle area and just assumed that transponder 30 is at the edge of the spotbeam.
     
  3. Feb 26, 2006 #3 of 125
    Charles Oliva

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    From the 129 in Alaska thread:
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=528955&postcount=5
     
  4. Feb 26, 2006 #4 of 125
    Rob Glasser

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    For people answering the poll, if you could also post your location so we can get a better idea where the problem is and where it isn't. I'd really appreciate it.
     
  5. Feb 26, 2006 #5 of 125
    Marriner

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    Getting an 85 signal on 129 West Transponder 5 here in Houston. 129 is captured by a dish 300 with 110 and 119 on a dish 500.
     
  6. Feb 26, 2006 #6 of 125
    sbuko

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    89 on 129 transponder 5 in ATL. Dish 300 / 942
     
  7. Feb 27, 2006 #7 of 125
    pinkey2u

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    Rob, Back on Feb 20th I received a call from a Dish recommended shop from Marysville, WA and ask if it was OK if he could send out a tech to my house to evaluate my situation and run some tests. The tech arrived at 1:00 pm in the afternoon as setup between us and discussed the problems I was having with the 129 Satellite reception. He then tried various tests to check signal readings which he admitted were low but about equal to others in the Puget Sound Area. He then called his boss and they agreed to use a dedicated Dish 500 with the 300 mounting hardware to properly mount the 129 LNB to the dedicated dish for the 129 Satellite. I agreed to having a separate dish mounted for picking up the 129 sat so he proceeded in the change over from removing the 129 LNB from the Dish 1000...setting the Dish 1000 skew adj back for only the 110 & 119 LNB's along with fine point adj to the 119 Satellite. The tech then setup the dedicated 129 sat Dish with much improved readings. He had finished the conversion in about 1.5 hours. I took readings of the 129 Satellite on the various channels and transponders between 6:45 pm and 7:05 pm Monday, Feb 20th as follows:
    ESPN2 HD...TP19...73%__UNIHD 9426...TP19...80%__UNIHD 9427...TP19...80%__Rave...TP30...69%__Equator HD...TP23...69%__Gallery HD...TP3...71%__Treasure HD...TP11...67%__Animania HD...TP23...76%__World Cinema HD...TP11...69%__Rush HD...TP3...73%__World Sport HD...TP11...69%__Ultra HD...TP31...82%__Kung Fu...TP30...75%__Film Fest HD...TP3...75%__Monster HD...TP23...78%__HD News...TP30...75%__Game Play HD...TP31...83%__Family HD...TP31...83%__D1000...TP17...78%.
    As you can see the transponder readings have increased but you can also see the variations of readings from certain transponders taken during the 20 minutes. The dedicated 129 Satellite dish did help somewhat but it does not stop signals dropping from the high 70's and low 80's to fall within 30 minutes to the mid 30's then unlock the signal and have a drop out!!!
    two Dish 411's originally through a Dish 1000 Satellite with 129...119...110 LNB's.
     
  8. Feb 27, 2006 #8 of 125
    larrystotler

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    I get an average of 48-77 with my setup. However, I am in the northernmost part of VA, and I am using a D* Phase I dish with an SW64 switch, and have not had time to try to retune the dish for a better signal. Also, keep in mind that E* 5 was never designed to be at the 129, so this can cause issues with signal strength due to the changed look angle. Further keep in mind that E* has had issues with E* 5 and I would hope that they move a sat to the 129 as a backup from either the 110 or 119 when E*10 goes live.
     
  9. Feb 27, 2006 #9 of 125
    Rob Glasser

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    Thank you for the detailed post.
     
  10. Feb 27, 2006 #10 of 125
    paychekkk

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    I am in north western New Mexico and ater getting a HD upgrade the initial installers had 90 signal strengths on 110 and 119, but only 50 on 129. I called dish and they sent another dish tech and he told me that around 60 was the best he could get for me. I have dropouts, pixelated pictures, pictures freezing on the 129 satt channels. I have the vip 411 with the dish 1000 in my system.
    I ordered the Mosley - Vargas hbo PPV fight this last Saturday night and had freeze frames every couple of minutes. Had it not been mirrored on a mpeg 2 channel which was flawless(110 or 119) I would have been unable to view the fight at all. I have another dish tech coming out this week and I will try again. I understand that 129 has a weak signal, can't dish increase the signal strength level coming from the satt.
    This is starting to get real annoying. Hope a fix is on the way.
    Mikey

    :confused:
     
  11. Feb 27, 2006 #11 of 125
    zer0cool

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    I'm in Arlington Texas, and I've been losing lock on several of the Voom channels. I've got a Dish 1000 hooked up to a 921receiver (which will be replaced by a 622 tomorrow).
     
  12. Feb 27, 2006 #12 of 125
    larrystotler

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    Actually, all the "new" "MPEG4" channels are currently being sent as MPEG2. They are having problems on the sending end with the new stuff at MPEG4. As for the 129, they really should have put another bird there, like the one they moved to the 77, but oh well.
     
  13. Feb 28, 2006 #13 of 125
    talk000

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    Upstate SC. Dish 1000. 508 reciever. Upper 60s on transponder 21 (for some locals) in good weather. If it rains will drop to mid 50s with complete loss of signal on 129.
    110 and 119 still will come in fine..
    Some breakup (not a complete loss of signal) ocassionally on 129 in fair weather but not often
     
  14. Mar 2, 2006 #14 of 125
    Cokeswigga

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    I haven't watched enough of the HD channels to experience a total drop, but I have seen pixelization some of it severe.
    (very similar to what happened on superbowl for those who remeber when dish offered superbowl in HD for the day)
     
  15. Mar 2, 2006 #15 of 125
    Paradox-sj

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    I am in San Jose, Calif. and my D1000 reception is spotty at best. Can't even lock on to the TP's 17 You have a Dish 1000 channel....

    On a good moment cos we have yet to have a good day, signal strength for the TPS that do lock is betwear 40-45.
     
  16. Mar 2, 2006 #16 of 125
    Greg Mueller

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    Is there a chart of the foot print of 129?
    I live by Seattle and I'm trying to figure out what kind of signal strength I can possibly get.

    I'm getting a little concerned (after reading these posts) that all the HD subscribers have been sold "a bill of goods". If Dish Network's HD programming is not going to work then what is it they think they have a right to sell? I really don't consider programming with continuous freeze ups (etc) a sellable product.
     
  17. Mar 2, 2006 #17 of 125
    cebbigh

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    Although I am seeing variations on the 129, it shouldn't be enough to loose signal now that I'm using two 500's.
     
  18. Mar 2, 2006 #18 of 125
    Paradox-sj

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    I get better reception from 61.5 than I do from 129 and I am in Calif...129 is supposed to solve the one dish local issue...I suppose it does as they have them linked there even if you can recieve them
     
  19. Mar 2, 2006 #19 of 125
    cebbigh

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    Sadly, I was getting more reliable signal off the 61.5 too here in the Seattle area. The numbers did not peak as high but the signal was more steady, enough so that I only had drops during major thunder and lighting storms off to the east (Cascades). But most people just don't have the line of sight out here for 61.5 and those of us who look forward to local HD from dish will most likely need 129. According to the techs I've talked to, they are aware of the 129 issues and there are people looking into getting things fixed. It seems to me that the signal off 129 used to be better. My problems started around the end of January. Anyone else have the same experience?
     
  20. Mar 2, 2006 #20 of 125
    Mike123abc

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    There is a possiblity of the signal improving in a couple months when E10 goes into 110. If the get to move all the LIL HD off of 129 and put them on 110, it is possible that they will be able to swich E5 back into high power mode. E5 can do 16 TPs in high power and 32 in regular power. It is hard to say what Dish will end up doing. Some have speculated that a satellite from 110 may move there when E10 gets to 110.
     
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