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Are you experiencing signal strength drops on Satellite 129?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Rob Glasser, Feb 25, 2006.

Are you expierencing signal strength drops on satellite 129?

  1. Yes - I am seeing signal drops, and it is causing me to lose signal lock

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  2. Yes - I am seeing signal drops, but it is not causing me to lose signal lock

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  3. No - I am not seeing any signal drops

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  1. Rob Glasser

    Rob Glasser Hall Of Fame Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If I had to guess, I'd say yes.
     
  2. Avedis

    Avedis Cool Member

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    As an update to this thread and my experience regarding this problem, The local Dish Network dealer called me up and wanted to put a 24" dish next to my Dish 1000 and peak it on the 129 satellite.

    I said go ahead and since then, I have had no dropouts of 129 satellite channels. Dish has boosted some of the transponder signals on 129 (looks like tp 19, 30 and 31) and combined with the addition of the 24" dish focused on 129, it has solved my problem. At least during clear weather. We shall see how it works during the monsoon season on the Oregon coast.

    No cost to me BTW....call your dealer and ask for an additional 24" dish for 129. It just might solve your dropout problem.
     
  3. shodobe

    shodobe New Member

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    I haven't had any real problems since I had a tech come out a few weeks ago and re-point my dish. Before that I had nothing but trouble and that was from a diferent tech not tweaking correctly. I am in the Sierras east of Stockton and Sac.
     
  4. gravity764

    gravity764 New Member

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    I live in northeast indiana and have problems with signal loss on 129.It has never been over 50 signal strength.I have dish 1000,It was installed 2 days ago.Ihave contacted dish network about this .They will be sending someone out this weekend to correct this(or so they say)As of this posting I can only get about half of the hd chanels that I am paying for.Iwill keep you posted.
     
  5. Rob Glasser

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    For those of you still having problems with 129, but want to have a single dish install, I have, for the most part, alleviated my issues by installing a Dish1000+ instead of a Dish1000.

    This let me get a higher signal strength on all locations. On average my signal strength on 129 went up slightly more than 10 points. For 110 and 119 it was between 12 - 15 points. All in all I am really happy with the results as I did not want to go the route of 2 different dishes on the roof. I still get an occasional dropout in bad weather but it seems stable otherwise. No where near the frequency I was getting them with my Dish1000.

    Anyways, wanted to throw this out there for those of you still having problems.

    Average Signal Strength of 129 Transponder w/Dish1000: 65.3
    Average Signal Strength of 129 Transponder w/Dish1000+: 75.8
    Location: Seattle, WA Area
     
  6. James Long

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    Hopefully your next installer will be better. My worst transponder on 129° is at 76 and I'm not that far away from you.
     
  7. cornflakes

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    What is the minimum signal required for the receiver to maintain a lock?
     
  8. Avedis

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    Additional update regarding 129 reception solutions. After Dish installed a separate 24" dish for 129 a couple months ago, it has resolved most but not all of my 129 signal dropouts. Heavy rains on the Oregon coast will still cause momentary 129 dropouts but they are fairly infrequent.

    The 24" dish has boosted my 129 signals significantly and while the signal still oscillates every 20-30 minutes, it rarely drops below 40-45 where signal lock is lost.

    The problem has not been solved but for me at least it has been improved to a tolerable level. A 24" dish has about twice the surface area of the 1000 dish and peaked on 129 may solve your problem. Having two dishes on my roof doesn't present a asthetics problem as they can not be seen by anyone.

    Dish needs additional satellites to cover the US properly for HD. This will take time. As I've said before in this thread, don't be afraid to insist on credits if Dish can not solve this problem for you. They will install the second dish on their nickel but it may not help everyone.
     
  9. sharklover

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    What channels other then pay per view is 129 used for?
     
  10. Avedis

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    Transponder 6 - Gallery, Rush, Ultra

    Transponder 11 - Treasure, World Cinema, World Sports

    Transponder 19(boosted) - ESPN2, Universal

    Transponder 22 - Kung Fu, HD News, Game Play

    Transponder 23 - Equator, Monsters, Family Room

    Transponder 27 - Food NetworkHD

    Transponder 30(boosted) - HGTV, NFLHD

    Transponder 31(boosted) - Film Fest, Animania, Rave
     
  11. Rob Glasser

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    Most new HD is going to show up on 129 and 61.5, so you'll need to have a Dish pointed at one of these locations to get all the HD programming. For those of us on the west coast 61.5 can be difficult if not impossible to get leaving us with 129, which currently appears to have technical problems causing the signal to drop dramatically every 30 - 45 minutes, for a few minutes, before recovering.

    So, that being said, if you are on the fringe area of 129 coverage, like we are up here in the Northwest, signal strength is already marginal. Therefore when these dropouts happen we quickly lose our lock on the various transponders. To counteract this installers are now using a 24" Dish just for the 129 location and then leaving a separate dish for 110/119. This is boosting the signal enough to keep lock during these dropouts ... most of the time.

    Another solution, if you want only one dish, is to buy a Dish1000+. This is what I did since my dish has to be visible from the front of my house and I didn't want multiple dishes on the roof. This brought my 129 signal very close to what those with separate dishes are getting. Not quite there but close.
     
  12. gravity764

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    Dish installer was out today...moved dish to a higher location .I am now getting about 75 on 129.guess that's as good as it gets
     
  13. Stewart Vernon

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    My installation is a 2-dish one. I have a Dish500 for 110/119, and a Dish300 for 129 installed and re-peaked this afternoon in Raleigh, NC.

    Here are my 129 numbers (I just went through them):

    01 -> 85
    02 -> 84
    03 -> N/A
    04 -> 93
    05 -> 86
    06 -> 79
    07 -> 84
    08 -> 89
    09 -> 92
    10 -> 92
    11 -> 82
    12 -> 93
    13 -> 94
    14 -> N/A
    15 -> N/A
    16 -> 85
    17 -> 85
    18 -> 79
    19 -> 94
    20 -> N/A
    21 -> 82
    22 -> 83
    23 -> 84
    24 -> N/A
    25 -> N/A
    26 -> N/A
    27 -> 85
    28 -> N/A
    29 -> N/A
    30 -> 94
    31 -> 98
    32 -> 82

    My installer today was pretty meticulous so I figure these are good numbers for my area. I forget what I used to have on 61.5, but these don't seem much lower than what I remember so I was pleased. With the horror stories, I had feared the worst!

    I am guessing the "N/A" transponders are ok, since I just got my 129 today I am not sure which ones are unused. Basically those were all skipped as I cycled through the list of available when writing down signal levels.

    It's a pretty clear day, so we'll have to see how these hold up under storm activity... but thus far I think I'm in good shape.
     
  14. DanoP

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    Ha! Well I see I'm not alone. Watching HDNews tonite and my screen got pixelated and then froze.....turned it on the Gameplay channel and the same thing happened. I've been a customer for about six weeks and never experienced this problem. So I go to the dish pointing menu and notice my signal fluctuating in the 50s and 60s. I get on the horn to Dish tech support and nearly the same moment I get connected the signal jumps back up to the high 70s and low 80s. She said something about the receiver needing to reset its signal acquisition or somesuch and by going to the dish pointing menu it did that. Hmmmmmm....... I suppose I haven't seen the last of this.

    What is so frustrating about this is that it is intermittent so the chances are near 100% that if I call a tech over there will be no problem and of course they'll deny any issues with their birds/signal acquisition on 129. BTW, I've got the Dish 1000 and 622 receiver.
     
  15. dave1234

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    My understanding is 129 is wobbling in orbit. That causes the fringe areas signal strength to vary widely.
     
  16. SMosher

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    This is enuff for me to dump the 1000 and get a 1000+.

    I as well keep dropping off now and then.
     
  17. SMosher

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    Why not pack up 148? I get 125 off that sat all day long. Current 61.5 for me is from 88 to 105. Thats damn good for Central Cali.
     
  18. 7thton

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    Just curious, is it because the 1000+ is larger?
     
  19. cdub998

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    I think so. It helped me out a lot. I am getting over 100 on a lot of the transponders now.
     
  20. SAinCA

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    Signal drops in Yorba Linda, CA (Orange County) VERY frequent - at least 2/day while watching HD up to 8/day so far and getting worse. Signal was at 70% when installed 2 months ago, now hovering around 50% with mid-50 if we're lucky. DISH-guy not very helpful (at the home) - language barrier, too... Told him to access the page that shows dopped signal statistics - wasn't interested because he's getting 56% - BIG DEAL!!!

    This is MAY 2007 - a year since the last post to this thread... And Dish hasn't responded in a satisfactory manner??? Is this what we, as consumers, are expected to put up with - and PAY FOR???

    We have "the latest" tri-whatever dish and are at L405 software on the (not so) nifty HD DVR.

    Any suggestions on how to coerce DISH into providing the service I've paid for???
     
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