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ASU's AD blasts DirecTV on PAC-12 Contract

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by inazsully, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. Bambler

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  2. Laxguy

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    Yeah, amazing what a handful of passionate fans can do!
     
  3. Bambler

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    I wouldn't call them passionate, it's the anti-pac crowd, the same, few posters that keeps this and the other thread thread alive.

    I agree with them, but constantly spewing out reasons as to why it shouldn't be carried just looks defensive. In any case, like I said, there's a thread for this already.

    In case you missed it, here's the link again: http://www.dbstalk.com/topic/206098-pac-12-networks-confident-even-without-directv/
     
  4. inazsully

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    Sorry you feel that way but most here probably don't consider the Pac-12 as a second-rate network. Your statement sounds like a personal grudge. The AD's comment this week makes this particular thread relevant IMO and has garnered a appropriate response. It's all about football, fans, and one guy saying "we're worth it", and the other guy saying 'no your not".
     
  5. Devo1237

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    Don't confuse the lack of posts by supporters as a lack of interest in the channel. All the hater posts just serve to show you the amount of interest they know and worry exists. But hey if you complain a little bit more, maybe you can keep the channel off DTV a little bit longer.


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  6. sum_random_dork

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    Interesting AT&T added Pac12 today, from what I have read Nat'l, Bay Area, and LA channels were rolled put nationwide. So that now leaves two providers without- Charter who is rumored to be for sale and DirecTV. Say what you want but it is pretty obvious people want this channel.

    As for the earlier comments about SJSU not being much of a game with Stanford. I suggest you check out David Fales the QB at SJ. Quite possibly the most pro ready QB this year. IIRC SJSU ended last year ranked 21st I the final polls.


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  7. yosoyellobo

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    What is the over and under on a third thread being started.
     
  8. billsharpe

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    Add Verizon FiOS as a third provider that doesn't carry PAC-12.
     
  9. JoeTheDragon

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    In the LA and Bay areas, Pac-12 is part of U200

    In California, outside of the LA and Bay areas, Pac-12 is part of U300

    Outside of California, Pac-12 is part of the sports package



    But the thing is big ten in basic in all AT&T areas or just the big ten areas?

    Maybe pac12 is more willing to let it be in higher level packs / sport pack on directv.
     
  10. fleckrj

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    That is an odd analogy. The last time I looked, vinegar and water were freely miscible.
     
  11. sdk009

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    We will miss four more games this weekend, (unless D* comes to its senses and finally settles) including Saturday's (9/14) Fresno St @ an improving Colorado game (2p EDT; 11a PDT), and the latest chapter that is the misery of being an USC fan as they host BC (3p EDT; Noon PDT).
     
  12. Laxguy

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    How many games a week do you watch?
     
  13. inkahauts

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    We will miss four more games this weekend, (unless D* comes to its senses and finally settles) including Saturday's (9/14) Fresno St @ an improving Colorado game (2p EDT; 11a PDT), and the latest chapter that is the misery of being an USC fan as they host BC (3p EDT; Noon PDT).


    Side note. USC needs to lose every game till they fire kiffin. He's terrible and completely at fault with his play calling. That game Saturday was atrocious.

    It's easy to watch all pac12 games lax guy. The new tv deal they spread all the start times and days out so you could get all but maybe a couple at the beginning of the season on one tv. Part of the new big tv deal they got.


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  14. Laxguy

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    Sure, and thanks for the response on that, but really, how many college football games can one digest in a week? Together with 3 or so pro games a week, 2-5 football games in addition is plenty for me. YMMV.!
     
  15. chillyfl

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    I may be the wrong one to ask, but I can do 20 hours of college football in any given week. Sundays I emerge back into the living, and usually don't watch much NFL til December.

    This past week the Arizona State game on P12N was the best game on Thursday night, so I watched that. I caught some of David Fales and SJSU (he's projected as one of the top QB's going into next year's NFL draft) against Stanford on P12N. That was the first look at Stanford this year, and Fales is the best QB they will face all year (and SJSU finished ranked #21 last year, so it's not like they are a complete pushover), so it was an intriguing matchup. I would have watched more, but the train wreck that is USC was too hard to turn away from. I tend to watch upsets and close games, so I tuned into part of Portland St vs Cal on P12N as that game went down to the wire. The first week of course I caught Eastern Washington beating Oregon State on the P12N, which was only like the third time an FCS team beat a ranked team. Next week, the Boston College game against USC on the P12N would garner some national interest just because people love train wrecks, especially when they involve Lane Kiffin. BC won impressively last week against Wake Forest and if USC loses, how much longer can Pat Hayden stick by Kiffin... Very interesting game.

    What sometimes gets forgotten is that the PAC-12 held onto some tier 1 rights for the P12N. Last year there were only 11 regular season games in all of college that pitted a top 5 BCS team against a top 15 BCS ranked team. One of those 11 games was on the P12N (Oregon vs Oregon State). Last year there were significant games that shaped the divisional races like UCLA/Az or USC/ASU. There were at least 4 games on the P12N where an unranked PAC-12 team beat a ranked team like Arizona over Oklahoma State, which I remember was easily the best game on during its time slot.

    I've seen some suggest there are no games which impact the National Championship picture on the P12N, but because of the beauty pagent of college football, any game involving a contender has NC impact. The fact that Ohio State (currently #3 in the coaches poll) plays Cal on Fox with national distribution, but Oregon (currently #2) plays Cal on the P12N means there will be comparisons drawn on how each team fares. For those not familiar, the most important battle during the regular season is between #2 and #3, because only the top 2 teams make the BCS NCG.

    And then there is just the quantity of games. Last year, the average P12 team had 4.5 out of 12 regular season games on the P12N. The fewest was 3, but even then, there was always at least one game against a good team (like the ones mentioned above). If you are a fan of a PAC-12 team, on average 40% of football games and 70% of basketball games will be on the P12N. The very fact that UCLA vs Arizona in basketball was on the P12N last year says a lot, and would have never occurred before the network was created. That game has always been on national TV.

    You can say a lot of things about the network, but not that it doesn't have content worth watching.
     
  16. Laxguy

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    Thanks for a very comprehensive reply. I bow to you as top fan! I'm a piker compared to your viewing habits, but enjoyed your post a lot.
     
  17. chillyfl

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    Yeah, I know I'm not necessarily a good barometer of the average fan. College football accounts for at least 50% of all my TV viewership for the entire year. Still, I think there are a lot more quality games on the P12N, even for the more typical fan, than some on here suggest. I think there will be a learning curve for some PAC-12 school fans on what games they will actually miss without the P12N.
     

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