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Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 2, 2010.
Now it's Verizon's turn...
~Alan<~~~~~~~~~Who is in a AT&T dead zone....
Well, it was connected when I was using the phone and it reconnects when I unlock it again, but it seems to me that the entire time it is sitting there locked and unused, it is using Cellular data. Just had 1.7 meg down and 183 kb up since 3:10 and its 5:46 now.
So, when you pick the phone up after being locked for a while, does it not start out on 3G, then after say 10-15 seconds the WIFI symbol comes up?
Have you thought about getting a Microcell? Maybe ATTs announcement will keep Verizon in check and they have to come out with a lower cost, but I would bet they try to go higher anyway.
I also have to wonder if some of this is due to Verizon potentially getting the iPhone and ATT wants to potentially have a lower cost option than Verizon (even if it is not actual depending on tehe situation, it may seem like it anyway)
I've never noticed it showing 3G when I unlock it, except for after it's been charging all night. I haven't looked for it either tho... At one time, I was having a hard time connecting to wifi, but that stopped after I updated the firmware in my router.
Ok, just tried it and it shows 3G until I unlock it, then the wifi thingee shows up in less than a second.
When my phone is locked it’s not doing anything so I don’t have any data transfer. :shrug:
When I unlock the phone it does say 3G for only for one or two seconds and then it’s Wi-Fi.
If my memory is correct regarding what a Microcell is, then no, I haven't.
It honestly wouldn't do me any good because even if I have one at my house, I wouldn't have one at work, or any business, residence, etc. that I should happen to visit.
Plus, even if I got one, the changes in SmartPhone data prices wouldn't be that interesting to me since AT&T doesn't offer 3G here...
Alan I think most ATT customers would say the same thing about being in a dead zone.
I get better service with ATT than Verizon where I am.....
Same with me, but a friend who lives just across the CT/RI boarder (about 35 minutes from here) gets better signal with Verizon.
Location, location, location...
I rarely use Edge or 3G as I try to use mostly when I'm able to connect to a WiFi hotspot (or of course at home). I don't know if I've ever topped 50MB in a month yet for data usage.
Something you might want to check... something I strongly suspect but have not 100% proved yet.
With iPhone OS 3.0 and beyond we got "Push notification" services... where apps can get pushed info from the 'net.
I strongly suspect that while in "standby" mode (locked but not off), the "Push" notifications are active and will not use WiFi even if available.
So... your phone is probably regularly checking for data and then receiving that pushed data as well.
This means you could rack up some data IF you have apps installed that get a lot of push-notice updates while your iPhone is locked.
When I read about this, I reset the usage stats on my iPhone just to see what I actually do in a month. I know I used 1.7G from my last rest last August, so the 200Mb plan may work for me. I know it will work for my wife.
I do wonder if I will be charged data usage for downloading apps from the Apple Store?
It's really easy to check online now. Just go to your account page, and click on the View Past Data Usage link. You will see a graph of your data usage the past few months.
Yes you would, unless you were connected to wifi. I believe the cap on apps downloaded through the network is 20 meg. But any apps, music etc downloaded over the AT&T network would count.
I do have a few push notifications. Also, I have email checking every 15 minutes.
I was actually at the Apple store today getting my phone switched out due to crazy dust in the screen stack and horrible battery life (and of course they all suggested turning most of the features of the phone off to help with this) and they did confirm that the phone turns off WIFI when it is locked and will use the 3g data connection for stuff like that.
So, if you do have Push and get a decent about of email, you will rack up data charges even when using WIFI. I wonder if they will change this as they said that WIFI should be very similar batter drain-wise or actually slightly less than 3G, so it should not be a huge problem.
Email checking is what's doing it. I don't have that and in ten hours of standby/locked (while at home on Wi-Fi) I had 3KB down and 4KB up...why more up. :scratchin
I don't do email checking either, but do have push notifications and usually have at least one waiting for me when I wake up.
According to ATT WIFI usage does not affect the data limits and charges since you are not using their network
Glad I have the unlimited plan and they have stated that if you upgrade smartphone to smartphone you get to keep your unlimited plan. Between email pushes, and Webex conferences when I am on the road I easily hit 4-5 gb a month, rarely go over and never had a cease and desist comment from ATT
Now that's a shame. Something like that would make me want to turn off the phone completely when I don't need push e-mail.
I'm staying with my unlimited plan since I tether my laptop to my Nexus 1, and don't pay extra to do that. Plus all the downloading and youtube watching I do on my phone I bet I would exceed several times over the max caps.
Location, location, location is indeed VERY true...
In South Georgia, AT&T's coverage is HORRIBLE, and Verizon and Alltel are the only two (contract phone companies) with decent service.
However, I'm well aware that there are multiple areas where it's the exact opposite...
Insteresting, tethering was never included in the unlimited smartphone plans, always had to have a seperate tethering plan with a 5gb cap on it for windows mobile and blackberry phones with att, does it have a special data plan with ATT?