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AT9 dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stevies3, May 19, 2013.

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  1. Stevies3

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    I'm looking to upgrade my current setup to Gennie. I have an AT9 dish with a Zinwell. 6x16 multiswitch. Can I just replace my MS with a swim or do I need to also replace my dish to a AU9. I have 3 x HR24, 3 x H24 and 1 x D12.
     
  2. Mike Bertelson

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    Technically it'll work with the AT9. I'm surprised you still have that dish.

    You'll need a SWiM16 it you want to keep all your receivers but is should work fine.

    Mike
     
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    You can replace the 6x16 with an SWM16 multiswitch and everything will work including the Genie. If you have DirecTV do the install, I'm pretty sure they will replace the dish also, as the AT9 is no longer supported. But it works just fine.
     
  5. peds48

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    yep, a self respected installer will always change the old "side-car" dish to the newer Slimline
     
  6. SomeRandomIdiot

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    I'd keep the AT9 if you have no reason to replace. My AT9 continues to give much better readings than most continue to post with their AU9 and I know its got higher numbers than AU9 at various neighbors around me installed over the past 3-4 years.
     
  7. Jacob Braun

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    Wouldn't they actually have to? (As in, can you pass QC with an AT9?)
     
  8. west99999

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    There is nothing in writing saying these dishes must be replaced. If they are working then they are good to go but most techs would replace them due to age and the likely hood of failing soon.
     
  9. Mike Bertelson

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    It should pass QC without a hitch. The AT9 receives the same satellites as the AU9 so the SWiM16 or signal meters won't know the difference.

    If, like any other dish, the AT9 is aligned properly it will work just fine and the OP has no need to worry.

    Mike
     
  10. Jacob Braun

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    Thanks, that makes quite a bit of sense, and good to know!
     
  11. Stevies3

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    Thank you.
     
  12. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    The problem is that these dines are so old, that they probably need to be re-peak in order to pass IV. and those are a PITA to peak. I (at least) rather throw in a new slimline in a few minutes and be done with it.
     
  13. Stevies3

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    I'm in the mid to high 90's for most all transponders. I took my time with installing years ago, Never needed retweaking which surprises me.
     
  14. peds48

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    run a system test, you might be surprised
     
  15. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Installed mine myself in 2006 - 7 years ago. Never retouched since.

    100 on many more transponders than others in my area with the AU-9. All but a handful of transponders (except spotbeams not servicing my area) below 95.

    Much better than on the AU-9s of others in the area.

    Sounds identical to the OPs experience.
     
  16. slice1900

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    But is that because of the dish itself? Seems like the LNB would be much more of a factor. Maybe the LNBs back in the AT9 days were better made, and the ones made for the Slimline cut a few corners to save a few bucks?

    Doubling the dish area theoretically increases your S/N by 3 db, so the ~4-5% bigger AT-9 dish would probably only help S/N by 0.14 db or so. That hardly seems likely to account for a noticeable difference in signal strength.

    Are you getting 100s on any 99c/103ca/103cb transponders? 100s on the 101/110/119 are no big deal, but AFAIK 100s on the HD sats are pretty rare.
     
  17. peds48

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    I guess you never had any major storms around you in 7 years! Must be a good place to live…
     
  18. Mike Bertelson

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    I've had several major storms over the past couple of years...Hurricane Irene, Hurricane Sandy, & the Nor'Easter Blizzard in Feb to name a few.

    My dish and signal strengths are solid as a rock. Properly torqued/tightened and aligned, the dish can stand up to quite a bit of weather.

    Of course lost power during a couple of those storms and couldn't watch TV but when it came back the first thing I did was check the signal strengths. Sehr Gut. :grin:

    Mike
     
  19. machavez00

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    We had an HR20 and an R15 with the AT9 when we upgraded to the Genie. The tech replaced it with the SWiMline dish. Kinda sad because we no longer get some of the international channels. We still have the oval dish from our SD days. Can I connect it to the system and get those channels back?
     
  20. jimmie57

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    It sounds like they installed a Slimline 3.
    If you lost International channels you probably need them to come back and change out the LNB for a Slimline 5.
     
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