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Awake (New NBC Show)

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by sigma1914, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. James Long

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    The show was a work of fiction ... but at least I'm in the same land as the creator. :)

    Not even the creator?

    Here is a simple test: Please look at the following string of characters -
    Tqbfjotld.

    Who would be the best person to tell you what that string of characters stands for, a person who read the characters or the person who wrote the characters?

    My money is on the person who wrote the characters.
     
  2. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Terry Quant babbled for John's old .... and I can't make out the rest.... how's my divinity?? :nono2:

    RFL: Accede gracefully!
     
  3. James Long

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    The question was not what those characters mean but who would be the best to say what they meant. :)
     
  4. TBoneit

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    In my opinion you are both equally right and equally wrong.

    Since the show ended when it ended in that reality it was a dream. If it had got to season two then what the creators wanted to do would have been the truth.

    Cheers
     
  5. RunnerFL

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    Whoop de doo... Doesn't make either of you any better than anyone else.

    No not even the creator. How insane are you? Did you watch the show? It DID NOT end the way you claim it did or should have. It ended the way I predicted it would, not the way you wanted it to.

    You can't say something stands for 1 thing and then show a second thing. That's like showing someone a ham sandwich and trying to convince them it's chicken salad.

    Sorry, you'll never convince me that the show ended in a different way. I saw what I saw and I had predicted what I'd see from episode 2, live with it. What you and the creator share is something called "Hindsight".

    hind·sight   [hahynd-sahyt]
    noun
    recognition of the realities, possibilities, or requirements of a situation, event, decision etc., after its occurrence.
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    "if" = Fantasy Land

    "if" never happened

    "if" never will happen

    "if" could have been dreamed up (yes, pun intended) long after they had already filmed the final scene of the show and then the creator could claim he meant something different. This is called "Hindsight".
     
  7. James Long

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    That much is obvious.

    It is not 'hindsight" when the creator clearly said in interviews early in the season that your view of the ending was wrong. :rolleyes:

    Alrighty then ...
     
  8. RunnerFL

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    He couldn't possibly have known what my view was at that time... It's hindsight now that he had to change it because his show got cancelled. Sour grapes I say...
     
  9. James Long

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    The creator doesn't know your view now ... he doesn't even know you exist. What he knew when the rest of us were watching early episodes as they aired was that there was a common misconception on fan sites and other people, people actually watching the show, not you, were making an incorrect guess. And when the season ended other people who were watching the show, not you, were responded to in an interview. Nothing he said was about you.

    How can anything he said be in hindsight of your views when you failed to view the show at all until after he made the comments?
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    Yes, but those people's guesses turned out to be right didn't they?? That is what is referred to as a "Red Herring". The creator tried to misguide you just like the LOST creators tried to misguide viewers as well when the "purgatory" theory first came out. I'm sorry you fell for his red herring but that's no reason to sit here and flame me.

    The definition of hindsight was posted previously, please refer to that. I did not say what he said was in hindsight to my view. What he said was in hindsight to how the show ended. Clearly he thought of another way to end it after it was already over and tried to pass off his new "idea" as his original intent. I'm not buying that.

    Maybe you should watch the finale again so you can see how the show actually ended!

    Now, I'm done... I suggest you move on as well because clearly you're just arguing for the sake of arguing because I've already told you that you won't win this one.
     
  11. Laxguy

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    Hmmmmmm.

    Of course, I've never done that! :nono:
     
  12. RunnerFL

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    Is today opposite day? You do it all the time. You even did it earlier today and realized you were wrong...
     
  13. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Do not PM me with insults. Keep it out in the open if you have to reply to my posts. It would be fine if you didn't, especially when you don't get the intent, which was ironic; now doubly so.

    Oh, yes, I can and do admit when I've made a mistake.
     
  14. RunnerFL

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    There was no insult, just a simple question, but it's nice of you to lie and say there was.

    I'm still waiting for your apology on that one in the thread I'm referring to. You're jumping on me like you did was uncalled for, like it is in this thread as well, and deserves an apology.

    Clearly you have something personal against me. You can either take it private or put me on ignore, your choice.
     
  15. James Long

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    First of all ... take it to PM. This is a thread about the former NBC Show "Awake".

    Second ... If you feel that you are right just because those who oppose your viewpoint do not waste their time rebuking you yet again and detailing yet again feel free to live in that world of denial.

    The statements of the creator of the show written early in the show's run have been presented as clearly as possible. If he does not know how his own show ended then certainly no one in this thread knows how it ended.

    One may not like the ending the creator picked, one may not understand the ending, one may think the creator did a bad job of putting the ending he picked on screen. But when someone asks a show creator how the show ended that answer is the final word.
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    I'm fine with the ending because I predicted it correctly. The creators comments were not on how the show ended. They were on how he WANTED it to end. There's a difference.
     
  17. James Long

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    Alrighty then ... revisionist.
     
  18. The Merg

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    I think the point is that the show ended that way because it was canceled. The creator had thought out where he wanted to go with it into Season 2. So, yes, it ended how you predicted it, but for all purposes, the prediction was wrong as that is not how the show was intended to have ended.

    - Merg
     

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