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Bad news for Netflix, Blockbuster, Amazon, etc

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by gully_foyle, Nov 15, 2007.

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  1. Nov 16, 2007 #61 of 146
    thefoyboy

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    You know you have been a customer a long time when your first dish install was the pizza pan single lnb and that was the high end.
     
  2. Nov 16, 2007 #62 of 146
    BobbyK

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    DVD sales in the U.S. are estimated to reach $17.3 billion this year, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers, and are forecast to surpass $20 billion by 2011.
     
  3. Nov 16, 2007 #63 of 146
    gully_foyle

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    Hmm. I have issues with them, but 99% of mailings, both ways, are 1 day. Six days will get a letter from Nome, Alaska to DelRey Beach. I'd blame your Post Awful.
     
  4. Nov 16, 2007 #64 of 146
    gully_foyle

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    When it hit LA, you could get a dual LNB system for only about $900, plus installation.
     
  5. Nov 16, 2007 #65 of 146
    Ken S

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    I'm not saying it's NefFlix fault...we have similar problems with Game Fly...but something tells me the Post Office isn't going to be getting a lot better anytime soon.
     
  6. Nov 17, 2007 #66 of 146
    rcoleman111

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    When I had a Netflix account, the DVDs always seemed to arrive in one day as long as I didn't go through them too quickly. When I turned them around quickly, the time it took for them to acknowledge that the discs had come back seemed to increase. I think they slow it down to minimize their mailing costs for high-volume customers. They know they can blame the delays on the Post Office.
     
  7. Nov 17, 2007 #67 of 146
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    I have a xbox HD DVD drive hooked to my computer and my son just got a PS3, so I find I can rent anywhere from 10-15 DVDs a month from netflix, not bad when HD discs can be so much more than stanard def.
     
  8. Nov 17, 2007 #68 of 146
    TK6411

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    Exactly! The fanboys just don't get it. I'll take my HD in whatever format I can and Directv's got an impressive HD movie offering...just the tip of the iceberg and it shows what direction the future holds.



     
  9. Nov 17, 2007 #69 of 146
    rcoleman111

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    Some of us just like those shiny discs, Ken. :)
     
  10. Nov 17, 2007 #70 of 146
    gully_foyle

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    Occasionally, they'd send me an email asking how long X took to arrive. Even though it was always 1 day, I told them "2 days." I wanted them to redouble their efforts. ;)
     
  11. Nov 17, 2007 #71 of 146
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    I have noticed a marked slow down when i would turn discs around quickly as well/.
     
  12. Nov 18, 2007 #72 of 146
    rcoleman111

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    Netflix reps deny it, but I think they have some logic built into their system that slows down the turnaround if you go through too many discs. Instead of arriving back at Netflix (or showing up in their computer as returned) in one day, they start taking 2 to 3 days.
     
  13. Nov 18, 2007 #73 of 146
    Ken S

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    The service was very slow for us and we were nowhere high volume. I'd look more at the post office than NetFlix for the answer.
     
  14. Nov 18, 2007 #74 of 146
    Steve Mehs

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    A lot of people noticed the slowdowns in turn around, but when I had Netflix, I never noticed any throttling. I did Burn N' Return for about a year and a half with Netflix averaging 30 discs a month. I built up quite the DVD collection, but even now 2 years after I canceled, I still have a few hundred movies that I never watched. And since all the movies were burned on single layer DVDs, I get no increase in picture quality when playing on my HD upconversion DVD player.
     
  15. Nov 18, 2007 #75 of 146
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    I had what I think was a fairly typical Netflix experience. I got in on it when it was still fairly new and was 4 DVD's for $20 a month. It was early enough that they only had the one distribution center so mailing was multiple days and hit-and-miss.

    At first it was great. You could tell the software that you returned a movie and they'd send the next one before it arrived back. I could rent upwards of 20 movies a month initially.

    Over time this went away and it dropped me down to about 10 a month. Then I depleted the viewing queue and found that the same 4 movies sat in my house for months at a time. After about a year of that I'd had enough and canceled.

    BTW, I mentioned early that I bought my first PPV in many years. Turns out I didn't. I tried to but the system failed. I chose a movie on one of the HD PPV channels (Fantastic Four) and told it to record (due on about 30 minutes from the current time). It appeared to record. I then went to watch it. Never at any time did I get a notification of a cost. A few minutes into the movie it just froze and gave me the "Searching for authorized content" message. So much for that.
     
  16. Nov 19, 2007 #76 of 146
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    http://www.stargazettenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071119/NEWS01/711190327
    Many more factors in the locally owned video rental business, but one specifically named:

     
  17. Nov 19, 2007 #77 of 146
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    I am surprised at how many people openly admit to copying the DVDs they receive from Netflix. I guess there's no shame in piracy these days!
     
  18. Nov 19, 2007 #78 of 146
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    I think that speaks to a need or want - people want portable media. Its true piracy gets the attention - but I honestly believe a larger majority just wants to be able to get media when and where it is convenient for them. They pay the rental for the media - but its not necessarily in a format they are ready to consume. Many people have ripped all of their owned cd and dvd libraries - because they want access to the metadata and management capabilities that come with it. I don't think that makes one a crook - but the RIAA and MPAA say that it does and anyone doing that should be fined or jailed. But they and the consumer electronics industry in general have failed to provide a 'legal' alternative.

    I think a possible future is in a net based content delivery - but it will be a while before that could be a reliable and secure delivery system.
     
  19. Nov 19, 2007 #79 of 146
    Steve Mehs

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    Nope not at all. I have nothing to be shameful about. I have no respect for intellectual property rights. I copied VHS tapes I rented 15 years ago and do the same with DVDs. I don't really care what the DMCA or whatever has to say. I'll do what I want to do. The RIAA and MPAA can kiss my ass.
     
  20. Nov 19, 2007 #80 of 146
    c152driver

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    I am no fan of the tactics that the RIAA and MPAA use and think the DMCA is one of the worst pieces of legislation to come out of Washington in recent history. I fully support DRM free media so that consumers can move the entertainment they purchase from one device to another.

    But, on the other hand, I also think the content producers deserve to be paid for what they produce.

    I could say more, but in the interest of not drifting too far off topic I'll leave it at that. :)
     
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