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Bariatric Surgery

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Rich, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Rich

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    Yup, but the state trooper was fully insured, he just saw the bill.

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  2. Rich

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    The only drinkable protein shake I've been able to find anywhere is the Premier Protein brand. Costco sells chocolate and vanilla, both I like. My wife must have spent a couple hundred dollars at health stores and the only drinkable brand she found was Ensure. I think Costco sells them too.

    Here's the usual link to Premier Protein's website. At Costco, you only get 18 boxes of shakes. On PP's website you can buy a 24 count case. Cost's a few cents more for the 24 count per box. Lot cheaper than Ensure.

    Two of the boxes will fill you up. Do you need supplements for after the surgery?

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  3. AntAltMike

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    A couple of decades ago, Nightline did a special on an emergency triple bypass. They traced it step-by-step, showing how some 47 people had to do what they did expediently and competently, and the bill came to $60,000. Fortunately, for the patient, he had total coverage.

    But the story wasn't about the treatment. It was about the charges. The insurance company told the hospital that they had calculated fair charges for the services to be closer to $30,000 and that is what they paid and that was the end of that. The patient didn't have to make up the deficiency and never would have even known of it if Nightline hadn't discovered it and told him.

    The insurance company has leverage that the individual patient does not. They are armed with statistical information regarding payments for similar treatments, and they have staff attorneys and have researched the legal remedies available to them and have a big stake in beating down unreasonable bills. If the patient had been uninsured and had been presented that same bill, he might have mortgaged his house to pay for it.
     
  4. Lord Vader

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    Each person heals differently, I'm sure, whether it's from major surgery or minor surgery. My surgeon explained the R&Y procedure, the pre-surgery things he required of me, the complications from the surgery, and more. Having had major surgery before (gall bladder removal in 1986), and knowing the pain that accompanies having one's abdomen cut open a good 6 to 8 inches, I still opted for the procedure, and I am glad I did.
     
  5. Cholly

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    I'm guessing I will, although I haven't seen the diet yet, or for that matter, any of the preparatory information for the procedure. Once I'm scheduled, I'm sure I'll be buried in information. I had guessed that the Premier brand was the one you liked. Thanks.
     
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    Low carb diets do work and you are never hungry. I just crave carbs sometimes.
     
  7. Lord Vader

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    No, diets do not always work. There are legitimate reasons some people cannot lose weight, no matter what they try.
     
  8. Rich

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    If you're only gonna be on a restricted diet for 3 weeks or so I don't think you'd need supplements. Thing about them is you just can't walk into a GNC and buy the proper supplements. You have to order them and they take a long time to arrive. They're specially formulated for the diet you must follow and are very expensive. But, you'll be told all that by your doctor.

    Did you experience acid reflux with your hernia?

    About all the other protein drinks we tried: Undrinkable, some tasted so bad I couldn't believe anyone would buy them. Some I could get down, but were also terrible. This is a real case of "buyer beware".

    Hope everything goes well for you.

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  9. Rich

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    Yup, I've done the Atkins diet a couple times and another one, can't remember the name, and each time lost a whole lot of weight. Sadly, I answered the siren call of the carbs and gained it all back.

    I never had a weight problem, stayed at ~ 200 pounds (I'm a bit over 6'4") for years, then got promoted and started flying a desk. That's when the pounds started building up. I was also forbidden from playing sports. You might ask how an employer can do that. I was just told that the next time I injured myself, I would be fired. That simple.

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  10. Rich

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    I did mention that in this thread. Some medications slow your metabolism and some people have glandular conditions that make it hard/impossible to lose weight. We have both been checked for those conditions and medications and neither my wife or I have those problems. Just gluttony.

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    Ah, gluttony (one of the 7 deadly sins, BTW)--supposedly easier to control; or is it??? ;)
     
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    I had the gastric bypass (arthroscopic rue en y) about 6 years ago. Lost over 100 lbs originally and have kept most of it off. Also, I suspect my weight might have kept rising without the surgery. It changes what foods you like and don't like. I don't like white bread anymore and too much of any milk product gives me cramps and a few other oddities. Other than that it has helped tremendously.

    It comes down to making a personal decision. A friend waited a couple years after his doctor advised him to get knee replacements. Finally, he did and is very happy with the results. He skis and played tennis all his life. Difference is that no one would say he needs more self control and should have curtailed his skiing and tennis playing, but whatever. It's all good. ;)
     
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    Since I don't know more about the dietary restrictions than no bread, no meat, I can't really say. I'm most concerned about having adequate amounts of protein in my daily meals. As to reflux, I've had it for over 25 years. I had an esophogeal stricture that required dilatation every year or two along with early stage hernia, but it came as a real shock to me this year to find out how serious the hernia had become. It has had a realimpact on my quality of life.
     
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    Sounds very similar to what my wife has. It is hereditary as her father died of esophageal lymphoma. She has resisted PPI medication and uses Zantac for control which works for her. But she has noticed when she goes on low-carb diets, her reflux completely goes away.
     
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    You'll get plenty of protein with the Premier Nutrition shakes (or whatever it's called) that's sold in Costco and online.

    I gotta do more reading on hiatal hernias. This just started 10 years ago. If there's a way to fix the acid reflux, my doctor hasn't mentioned it. I'll do anything to stop this. It's really terrible.

    I've been controlling it for years by diet and not eating late at night, but sometimes I slip and I really pay for it during the night.

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    I use Nexium for the acid reflux and when I slip up and get an attack at night, I quickly take a big swig of Pepto Bismal and a tablet of Pepcid AC and pray that stops it. I also use "wedges" under my pillows to elevate my head above my stomach. Works, for the most part.

    I've seen no relief when on low carb diets. Wish that was the answer. Wish I had the answer, aside from cutting my stomach into shreds. Let me add this about carbs. They seem to be the problem with the acid reflux. Now that I think of it, I don't think I've ever had an attack when restricting my intake of carbs. Hmm. Problem is staying on the carb free diets.

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    Eating late at night causing a weight gain is a myth. While it's not good to engorge on a 7-course meal (not because of weight gain; rather, because of stomach digestion causing sleep problems, and so forth), it's not good to go to bed on an empty stomach. A light snack--fruit, small sandwich, salad, nuts, etc.--is good to have before bed.
     
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    You do realize I'm talking about acid reflux and how to keep it at bay, right? Late night snacks are not the way.

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  19. Lord Vader

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    But going to bed with a totally empty stomach can actually be worse for acid reflux sufferers (some, at least). My brother, who tends to go to bed early, had suffered from AR. He kept wondering why. After repeated trips to the doctor and some analyses, he realized it was because he'd go to bed on a totally empty stomach. The doctor recommended, instead of more medication (antacids, etc.), that he have a light snack. However, I don't remember which specific food the doctor recommended. I do know it was a specific recommendation, and one that helped my brother immensely.
     
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    Can't control myself at night. I did it again last night. Just a light snack of 3 protein bars and BAM! I plan to try the protein drinks when I get those urges before bed. They don't seem to bother me.

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